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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: [DISCUSSION] A new theory about the symbols Reply with quote

we have four symbols and no definitive proof as to what they mean, except that one is the symbol for the watchers.

we know that the watchers are a pat of the order,

what if the other logos are other branches of the order?

just thought it was an idea to throw out there..
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: A new theory about the syombols Reply with quote

Balmung wrote:
we have four symbols and no definitive proof as to what they mean, except that one is the symbol for the watchers.

we know that the watchers are a pat of the order,

what if the other logos are other branches of the order?

just thought it was an idea to throw out there..


I was just thinking this too. Also the 4 groups are made of 8 components which goes back to Tachyon's 8 being important.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting! Really!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying to find the typical branches of soceity, religion, goverment and others. See if I can locate something.

Watcher = security/information

What are the three others?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KrystalRayne wrote:

What are the three others?


To answer that we need to figure out the meaning of each letter, then their combination. We have: Theta and Mu explained to us by Tachyon (sweet girl!). Now we have 3 more symbols:

- Pi+Theta
- Tau+Omicron
- Lambda+Sigma
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

impulse wrote:
KrystalRayne wrote:

What are the three others?


To answer that we need to figure out the meaning of each letter, then their combination. We have: Theta and Mu explained to us by Tachyon (sweet girl!). Now we have 3 more symbols:

- Pi+Theta
- Tau+Omicron
- Lambda+Sigma


So lets take it one at a time.

#1. Pi + Theta
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KrystalRayne wrote:

#1. Pi + Theta


For Theta I guess we should keep in mind what Tachyon told us :

Tachyon wrote:
The Theta is similar to an Egyptian symbol that represents the Sun......
Theta was also used as an abbreviation for "Thanatos," and considered a warning of death.


Theta=death doesn't apply to the watchers...they just watch. So that should apply to this symbol. Death+Pi! What's Pi?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Theta=death doesn't apply to the watchers...they just watch. So that should apply to this symbol. Death+Pi! What's Pi?


"Drop of a hat"

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%80%CE%B9
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Was looking up the letter Pi on wiki and found this.
The upper-case letter Π is used as a symbol for:

The product operator in mathematics, indicated with capital pi notation ∏ (in analogy to the use of the capital Sigma Σ as summation symbol).
In textual criticism, Codex Petropolitanus, a 9th century, uncial codex of the Gospels, now located in St. Petersburg, Russia.
In legal shorthand, it represents a plaintiff.

Just thought it was interesting.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i remember using Σ in maths, it was on my calculator before i smashed it up on the last day of school Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pi - constant, circumference 3.14
irrational number


Theta - death, Kosmos, sun, world 9
symbol of the soul
rate of time decay on a daily basis


constant death?

world or sun circumference?

irrational soul?




this is what i came up with after taking lots of cold medicine
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps the "Theta Pi" section of the order deals with legal stuff and/or execution of punishments?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We sould keep in mind that Tachyon did not indicate a modern interpretation of the greek letters but rather an older Egyptian meaning.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_letters
This lets you back track to the older Phonecian and gives more source information.

Pi:
Pe is usually assumed to come from a pictogram of a mouth (in Hebrew pe; in Arabic, fem).

It is oddly reminiscent of the "speech glyph" found in surviving Aztec codices.

Tau:
Taw is believed to have come from a simple mark; a cross or asterisk-like marking, perhaps indicating a signature.

In ancient times, a symbol for life and/or resurrection, whereas the 8th letter of the Greek alphabet, theta, was considered the symbol of death.

Omicron:
The letter name is derived from West Semitic ʿen "eye", and the Proto-Canaanite letter had an eye-shape, ultimately derived from the hieroglyph (picture of an eye)

Lambda:
Lamedh is believed to have come from a pictogram of an ox goad or cattle prod. Some have suggested a shepherd's staff.

Said to signify unity under oppression, explaining its use as a homosexual symbol (how old this usage is is not clear)

If what we think is Lambda is actually Gimel (early Gamma)
Gimel:
In its Proto-Canaanite form, the letter was likely named after a "throwing stick, boomerang," ultimately deriving from a Proto-Sinaitic glyph based on the hieroglyph below: (bent stick)

The word gimel is related to gemul, which means justified repayment, or the giving of reward and punishment

Sigma:
The Proto-Sinaitic glyph, and possibly its Proto-Canaanite descendant glyph, according to William Albright and Brian Colless, may have been based on the hieroglyph for the uraeus in Semitic called shamash "sun" (also the meaning of the rune Sigel) with a phonetic value IPA: [ʃ]: (Snake with sun as seen on pharoh's crowns)

This next part about Sigma isn't important, just kinda awesome
"Shin also stands for the word Shaddai, a name for God. Because of this, a kohen (priest) forms the letter Shin with his hands as he recites the Priestly Blessing. In the mid 1960s, actor Leonard Nimoy used a single-handed version of this gesture to create the Vulcan Hand Salute for his character, Mr. Spock, on Star Trek."
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tigerlilylynn wrote:
We sould keep in mind that Tachyon did not indicate a modern interpretation of the greek letters but rather an older Egyptian meaning.

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now, I haven't looked into the threads, honestly it's too much garbage to go through.
But ahve we looked at the Divination meanings for these characters? I know very often they us the greek alphabet as a form of runes, other then the norse runes.
Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps a judicial branch that hands down sentences. Or maybe the group that carries them out.
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