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kristin · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject:

It was a valid point about Jonas offending Bree were he to mention the carnage in his video -- but still, I'm considering it a possibility that all he saw was an unmaimed, possibly living body being placed in a trunk.

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I'm 18 and I've always heard it called "The Zapruder Film." Just to add my opinion on that, first of all.

Also, I think it totally makes since that Jonas hesitated. He doesn't know Bree that well and was probably very confused, and it makes sense for him to act the way he did.

So this is probably way off, but I actually think that Bree's "Dad" is dead. I'm assuming that someone (Daniel or Jonas) saw some kind of carnage, blood or guts like someone mentioned, that cements his death since they all seem so sure about it. If there was any shadow of a doubt I think it would be mentioned. But you know, I'm probably really wrong and I'll regret posting this, lol.
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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject:

Wow, when Jonas was like "I have a confession...." I was getting ready for "I was the one with the gun.." or "That was my uncle! Bree's my cousin! WOW" lol.

Anyway, I'm starting to like Jonas. And I definitely think there's something we don't know about him. Not saying he's a bad guy, I'm definitely thinking he's a good guy. But he knows something... I can smell it.

I noticed the 45 Seconds thing. I didn't realize there was any reference so I guess that explains that.

I wonder if Jonas even watched Bree's last video. He kept saying"Bree's dad" without even mentioning that he was a fake dad..

Also, whoever said that Jonas can't help Bree with mental struggles because he struggles mentally himself, I have to disagree here. Just because Jonas isn't Opra doesn't mean he can't empathize with Bree. In fact, I'd say he'd be the second best to DanielBeast for the job. Many people who major in the field of psychology do so because they are interested based on personal experience. Many psychology students subconsciously adopt some of the symptoms of disorders they are learning about temporarily. There's a whole study about it, and it's really interesting and definitely valid. I don't mean to pick a fight here, just felt the need to say something. Smile

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JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject:

kayokosaeki, your avatar is so cute.
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kristenjane · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject:

I dont like when he says it brings back a lot of memories...
We are led to assume it is memories of his parents disappearing and that is it but it makes me think again that he has had SOME affiliation with the Order...
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AM · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject:

Forgive me if this has already been said, I haven't read the entire thread yet. Jonas knowing that the JFK assasination footage is known as the Zapruder film does not mean he is a history buff necessarily at all. It means he is a movie buff, particularly conspiracy type movies, like Oliver Stone's JFK.

We already know he is a conspiracy movie enthusiast because Bree has told us some of the movie titles in his collection. The movie JFK is right in keeping with the rest of his collection. In fact I'd be surprised if he didn't have it.
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robtomorrow · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject:

I don't think we learned anything new here, we already figured out that it was Lucy and the Deacons, he just sort of confirmed that, we wanted to know why they let Bree get away so easily, all he did was tell us he didn't understand it either.

All I heard that was new here was that they put the dead body in the trunk, but don't they always put the dead body in the trunk? I guess it was their way of telling us how they knew that Bree's dad is dead.

khjq · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject:

OMG, what if Bree's "dad" didn't get shot, what if the body that Jonas saw them putting in the trunk was Gemma's!
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Kanazaka · Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject:

I've watched this a couple of times, now, and I'm still struck by how Jonas's analysis seems to be more intellectual than emotional. But, that could just be his way of dealing with death. In the past, when older relatives of mine have died, I've never cried, but processed the event more introspectively. So, that's probably what Jonas is doing right now. I'm also disappointed that we didn't learn much new, except for the body being put in the trunk. I think that means he's likely dead. As for why the Deacon and Lucy didn't go after Bree, I think that they figured it might be too complicated and impractical for two people to restrain two people. The only way I can think they could have done it is if they knocked out Bree, either through a punch or a tranquilizer, because I'm sure she would have struggled and tried to escape (or at least I hope she would have). They also could have known that Daniel and Jonas were following Bree and her "dad", and decided to target just her dad because they knew that Daniel would try to rescue Bree. Plus, if their intention all along was to kill Bree's "dad", they probably guess that Bree would be traumatized when she saw his murder, and a traumatized Bree would not be much good to them.
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essie · Casual Observer Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 112

Okay. So it might be Gemma's Body or could it be Bree's Father.
45 Seconds. That brief 45 seconds he hesitated before catching Bree.

Significant? I thought he was going to say it like. "I hesitated because I knew Bree likes Daniel and I won't have a chance." Or something.

Stories heating up, I wish we hear from Gemma though =(