Lonelygirl15

kellylen · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject:

according to my friend the shooter was an english major who had disturbing creative writing and was referred to the counselors on campus.

he also left a note in his dorm saying he didnt like stuck up people or rich kids or pretentious people. which according to my friend would make sense why he killed the girl in the dorm and then the RA when the RA stepped in.
_________________
-Kelly

Killthesmiley · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject:

evacuation is probably unrealistic honestly at VTech...however the number you quoted of students is a little off. That is the number of students that attend. The number that live n campus are 9000 and the number that are on campus at one time is approx 10,000.
Evac is probably unrealistic, how ever there are so many messures that they could have used.
the dorms were lock through specific key cards. only people with the appropriate Key cards can get in. These systems can be activated to not let ANY key allowed in, exept for a specific Key that the police hold. This could be initiated during their lock down process. Also certain systems allow to for the doors not to be able to open at all until a code is entered. This specific system was used at my former college. It was efficient and we drilled a lock down situation every other month.
Also effecient locks on the doors would have helped. As stated by student witnesses, there are no locks on the classroom doors, they needed to use tables and chairs to block the doors. While, even when the locks are locked, I would recommend them to barracade themselves like this, Locks would have slowed the gunner down, which by the looks of things, he didn't want, so he would have just turns away and went on to the next room.

These things do not cost that much for a university. Plus if they already have the keycard system in place for the dormitories, I'm surprised that they didn't activate the security mesures they could have done. They didn't cancel classes, they didn't lock down. Point blank, the should have. It was an irresponsible decision that the dean and sheriff made, and they should be reviewed for it.
_________________
kelly

YOU: Who does that KTS think she is? Total bitch!

ME: I think I'm you, only better.

~Kelly, KMurr, and Kellylen <3~

martha · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject:

I'm not talking about dorms, I'm talking about classrooms, because dorms do have much more security than classrooms. My freshman year, there was a serial rapist around town, and they started using the key cards at all the dorms. So sure, there's plenty of things they can do for dorms, but what about classrooms? Is it realistic to have key cards for the other buildings on campus? Locks are a good idea, but then again, you can't very well lock the door once class has started, can you? That would probably be a fire hazard. You can sure as hell bet that now it's happened, colleges are going to be adding additional safety measures in dorms and in classrooms, which is what I meant by the hindsight comment. As far as 28,000, I meant that a school that large should have campus police.

kellylen · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject:

Kelly they locked down the dorm where the shooting first occured.
_________________
-Kelly

Killthesmiley · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject:

martha · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject:

I heard last night they didn't. But, I just read they did, so I'm probably wrong.

I'm sure they're going to be implementing things like this all over the place now. They also need to find a better way to communicate with the students. Email isn't an option for everyone. Neither is the radio. Some sort of reverse 911 system would work, but I'm not sure how feasible that is, since I'm sure there is a substantial amount of students who don't live in town.

consideration · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:

I really hope that everything is okay with Loretta. I'm worried.
_________________
Raspberry Lemonade Slurpees!
Daniel, Ma Belle and all its inhabitants (past and present) own my heart.

longlostposter · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:

longlostposter · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject:

Me too, consideration. She knows we are waiting for word, and the fact that she hasn't come here worries me terribly. I think if there had been good news, she would have jumped on here right away.

It's not looking good at all, but I'm trying to stay positive.
_________________
You can call me Juli or LLP, whichever suits your fancy.
I want the ghost of Jim Morrison to come and haunt me.
Proud member of the DB Fan Club.
Shout outs to my beautiful daughter badkittyx1505, Aithne, and Lurker.

martha · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject:

consideration · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject:

martha · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject:

You're right, consideration. My apologies to JustAnotherLonelyGirl.

Marilee · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject:

I go to school about 2 hours away from tech and it has been a really hard two days. So many of us know friends there. It's really just been a time of calling and finding people.

I really hope this thread doesn't become a ranting place about politics. What happened is a horrible horrible tragedy and it is not made better by placing blame on anyone but the shooter. I know from experience that I don't always check my email before leaving for my 8am... it may not have stopped people. but tech did use an RA phone tree and all the procedures they had. It is really a shame when schools need to even think of a plan for something like this.

My prayers and love to everyone on the boards who has family/friends at tech.
_________________
My name is Marilee, like the adverb. not like Bob Marley, but like the kids song, Row. Row. Row your boat...

Sami · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject:

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject:

Hey everyone - sorry I haven't updated today - I was kind of busy.
It turns out that my cousin is okay - physically. We were all excited to hear that.
Unfortunately, he hasn't been doing so great emotionally. One of his teachers and four of his best friends were killed. They didn't even know the boy who shot them. He won't talk to anyone right now except another friend of his from school who was also in his group of friends.
It hasn't been an easy two days for my family and me, and I want you all to know how much it means to me that you kept my cousin in your thoughts and prayers. I'm not a religious person myself, but I am so grateful that you did all you could to help my family.

btw, of course, I don't mind if anyone calls me Loretta. Smile

_________________
"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof."
-- V For Vendetta <3