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ApotheosisAZ
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| ApotheosisAZ wrote: | A respectable score could be a "haul" in gangster terminology.
Players room could be "hall" as in billiard hall. |
On the outside chance that this theory had any validity, I lined up the decoder with the "u" and the "l" and all I got was garbage.
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girlAnachronism
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| hagbard celine wrote: | ok if E = p then...
Cx 6t 4v Fo Bu 2z 8w 3p 5m Dr 7n Ay 9q ls El
9q 3l Bw Bu Cr Zx Do 6n 1z As 5y Em Ft 4v 7p
or the 30 Character version
lC x6 t4 vF oB u2 z8 w3 p5 mD r7 nA y9 ql sE
9q 3l Bw Bu Cr Zx Do 6n 1z As 5y Em Ft 4v 7p |
Is this supposed to be the final answer? Because I can't make heads nor tails out of it. Neither decode from hex to anything...not sure what else to try |
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Watch Keeper
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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This IS an XX XY puzzle.
Is there a way to use our solution 112 in line with the wheel as well, in an XY style?
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tiltingwindward
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Tach update:
| Quote: | | [ a small hint: X decoded by Y = Z ] |
What does this mean for our decoder ring theory?
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Ziola
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| It seems to me that the x line needs to be decoded (where are the code people) using 112 as the key. |
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tiltingwindward
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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The problem is, we don't know whether to use
Cx6t4vFoBu2z8w3p5mDr7nAy9q1sEl
Cr2xDo6n1zAs5yEmFt4v7p9q3lBw8u
from Steps 2 and 4, or the 1-9 and A-F set. Also, we don't know which one is the encoded set and which is the decoder set. Nor do we know how the two sets match up.
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diastres
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Watch Keeper wrote: | This IS an XX XY puzzle.
Is there a way to use our solution 112 in line with the wheel as well, in an XY style? |
Can you explain why it must be an XX Xy puzzle?
The XX Xy puzzles are hex. There is no way that the Cx6t etc. stuff can make hex. Simply put, they use characters that hex doesn't. Hex uses 0-9 and A-F. Plus, the X's aren't decoded by Y's, which is how the profile reads. |
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spiff5000
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Just posted on Tackys UT profile
"[ is Doug Ramsey around? what about Warlock? ]" |
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shifty
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| spiff5000 wrote: | Just posted on Tackys UT profile
"[ is Doug Ramsey around? what about Warlock? ]" |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypher_(comics) |
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Ziola
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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I meant the x line that she just gave us:
6B36676B38B2B2E03EE03AE033 |
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Watch Keeper
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| diastres wrote: | | Watch Keeper wrote: | This IS an XX XY puzzle.
Is there a way to use our solution 112 in line with the wheel as well, in an XY style? |
Can you explain why it must be an XX Xy puzzle?
The XX Xy puzzles are hex. There is no way that the Cx6t etc. stuff can make hex. Simply put, they use characters that hex doesn't. Hex uses 0-9 and A-F. Plus, the X's aren't decoded by Y's, which is how the profile reads. |
Sorry, what I MEANT is that this is from an XX XY puzzle...that is, 1 1 2 rather than 112 with original wheel.
Sorry, its been a very long day, and I did not phrase that to being even CLOSE understandable.
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quizzoc
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Under Favorite Books:
Match the quote/scene/sequence (in lowercase) to the movie (in UPPERCASE). Watch and compare the lowercase scene in each UPPERCASE movie to find a pattern that will determine how you handle the UPPERCASE letters/numbers.
This clue told us that what we wanted to do was link Step 1 and Step 2, which meant that we needed to use not only the uppercase letter/number from the Step 1 movie list, but also the lowercase letter from the Step 2 list of situations. This gives us:
Cx6t4vFoBu2z8w3p5mDr7nAy9q1sEl |
I personally disagree with this assesment. I believe that Tach's clue is telling us NOT to use the l-z letters for our decoder ring. We compared the lower case letters (which were the scenes/parts of the movies and lovelines - and their corresponding times). From this comparison (time, earliest to latest w/sparing hours), we are able to figure out how to "HANDLE" the uppercase letters. We are using the clues to ORDER the UPPERCASE letters. That is what I have gotten from Tach's clue.
So, I believe the correct order should be:
Movies: C64FB2835D7A91E
Loveline: C2D61A5EF4793B8
This IMO makes a lot more sense for the decoder ring, because the answer is now hexable, since we are using only 0-9, and A-F. |
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covedweller
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I agree with Quizzoc.
and with Tachyon's latest profile update, what if it is a cipher of some sort? so 112 would be the password in terms of wheel placement, or is that the E part?
didn't she use a V. Cipher in two previous puzzles? |
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tiltingwindward
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That could certainly be the case, quizzoc. Have you tried using that to decode the X: 6B36676B38B2B2E03EE03AE033 clue?
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quizzoc
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Latest Tach Update on Profile:
| Quote: | | [ is Doug Ramsey around? what about Warlock? ] |
Doug Ramsey:  Alter-ego of: Cypher is a fictional mutant character, a superhero from Marvel Comics. He first appeared in New Mutants (1st series) #13 (March 1984). ----I believe this is related to X-men, but I don't know jack about comics. Obviously, cypher is significant, is the X in X men significan also?
Warlock: Warlock is a fictional character, a cybernetic alien superhero in the Marvel Comics universe, affiliated with the original New Mutants, a mutant superhero team. He was created by writer Chris Claremont and artist Bill Sienkewicz, and first appeared in New Mutants #21 (November 1984)
I don't know what to make of it...discuss.
EDIT - Tilt, i have no idea what to make of the 6B36676B38B2B2E03EE03AE033 clue, nor how we are supposed to use the ring cypher. Due to the fact that I was so confused, I went to double check some of the steps, and saw what i mentioned up there ^, so just thought i'd put in my two cents. Maybe it'll help some of the smart people around here figure out the ring decoder.[/img]
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