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ambriel · Casual Observer Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 42

thanks for pointing it out. I was excitied when I got it and was a bit disapointed at first when no one else was lol. However like I said before i think it proves a good point. If we are wondering about something why not ask about it? In a tactful way of course.

*edit typos* I can't type well to save my life.

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rachelalexis · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject:

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rachelalexis · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject:

ladron121 · Devoted Fan Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 855

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Um... the code to use the cipher and correctly decode the message was IOOEE - in l33tspeak that is 10033.

It just makes the most sense that the message is to "Brother" (10033).

Also, does anyone else see what she might be referring to him dealing with probably has to do with his videos on YT?

trainer101 · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject:

This may or may not be of relevence but, does anyone else find it interesting that Daniels YouTube profile lists an interesting choice of reading material?
Favorite Books: The Zombie Survival Guide, The Walking Dead, Powers, The Watchmen... and YES comic books are "books"
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Sister · Casual Observer Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 55

Hrm... I don't understand.
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tiltingwindward · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject:

Here are my thoughts on the letter and its intended recipient:

First, I think that the leet speak shows that Brother was definitely supposed to receive the encoded message and decode it. However, based on the letter's contents, I don't think the message was actually for Brother. Remember that Tachyon has asked Brother before to convey messages from her to someone else (the birthday card, the OTHER encoded message about hoping "he" will understand some day). So it's not really far-fetched to assume that Tach wanted Brother to recover this message and get it to its proper recipient.

Now to the whole debate about Tach's family. Ambriel's message and the other clues we've received all seem to point toward Tach being closely associated with, if not actually part of, the family that Gemma talks about in her video, "They Disappeared." At the same time, killthesmiley and others have made a good point when reminding us that just as Tach and Brother aren't actually related, Tach and Sister probably aren't blood kin either. I've been doing a lot of thinking about this, and here's my theory.

I've been wondering since Tachyon and Brother first appeared on the scene why they chose to use family ties as a cover story? It was pretty quickly apparent that Brother wasn't Tach's brother, and that Mom and Dad weren't Tach's parents. So why the continued use of the familial terms? Well, what Mom and Dad were actual people, not a generic term for the organization behind Tach? And what if they referred to themselves that way because this particular group of people had infiltrated the Order before...but disguised as a family? What if the family Gemma describes as just disappearing wasn't a genuine family unit running for its life, but a ring of operatives getting out with the information they needed?

This would answer a lot of lingering questions (at least for me). First, it would explain why the family left everything behind, even their dog. No actual family does that--even during the Holocaust, when people really were running for their lives, there are many, many stories of fleeing families arranging with neighbors to take care of their homes and possessions. But if the whole family thing was just a cover...maybe the dog really didn't matter to them. This theory also explains the reference ot the inferiority complex in the letter. If the "Family" consisted of Mom, Dad, Tach, Brother, and Sister, it seems fairly obvious from the evidence that Sister's role was to infiltrate the ceremony itself. Maybe Tach wanted that position, and felt angry and inferior because another operative was chosen. And finally, it sheds light on Tach's obscure coded message of regret that she wants Brother to pass on to a mysterious "him." If "him" is Dad, then perhaps the events in the British Commune have caused a rift between the Dad operative and Tach, causing Tach to do things that Dad has disagreed with.

Any road, that's what I'm thinking regarding the message right now. I'm still inclined to believe that the message is intended for someone we haven't met...although if pressed to name a known character, I'd have to say it was meant for Gemma. She's the only one I know of who is aware of Tach's potential history, clever enough to understand what Tach is saying (especially if Brother has decoded it for her first), and living in a somewhat isolated state from the Order. Speaking of which, we still don't know why Gemma's living "independently." But it seems suspicious to me.
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EliCash · Lonely Fan Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 173

Can somebody explain why Tachyon would want to tell everybody who she is, given that OpAphid didn't know (specifically, that is)?

deagol · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:

If these girls aren't messing with their ages, we should be able to figure out some things:

Gemma said she was about 8 when this happened. Gemma says she's 19 in her YT profile. Thus, this was 11 years ago. I'm guessing this was the South African commune.

Tachyon's YT profile says she's 24. She would have been 13 when she left Sascha behind and moved to Sonoma. Maybe Gemma adopted Sascha and brought her to England, so Sascha could be the dog Bree was best friends with.

Gemma said the girl doing the ceremony that time was about Bree's age. So, if she was 16 then, Tachyon's sister would be about 27 now. Can't be Bree or Cassie or Gemma. Maybe Op?

Now about the guys, we have Daniel who's 18, Jonas is 19, and 10033 is 28, according to their respective YT profiles. Gemma's "petrol station" friend Sam I assume would be about Gemma's age or maybe a year older. She said she was about 13 when she last saw Sam. So that was about 6 years ago... I'm going to assume this was in Nottinghamshire, and since Bree moved there when she was 12, she probably was still in New Zealand and never knew about Sam.

Jonas said he lost his parents who were sailing at sea 6 years ago. He would've been 13, and he implies they lived in or near Humboldt county, California. If he was Sam, it could be they were being persecuted by The Order, perhaps members of some kind of organization working against The Order? Remember what Gemma's mom knew about Sam, "he and his parents didn't subscribe to our way of thinking." Also, maybe Gemma's purity was put in question by this "friendship." What did her mom read in Gemma's diary that would justify such a drastic decision?

Ok, that's all I can think of.

evaB · Casual Observer Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 72

OK, feel free to tell me I'm on crack, but I kind of think the letter's to Cassie...

I posted it on the other thread, but here it is again.