Lonelygirl15

[GimmeYourForever]

[sparklenvy]

It's not bashing, it's taking liberties with religions and focusing on a radical branch.

It is far from the first story to do this and it definitely won't be the last.

Fiction /= reality.

That wouldb like saying the movie The Craft was an accurate depiction of the wicca religion.

[Traegorn]

Only this time they aren't claiming that members have obnoxious superpowers...

...damn do I hate "The Craft"...
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[sparklenvy]

See, this is a good thing. It's a step up.

You know, unless the next LG15 video involves Bree's room covered in snakes and Cassie flying around laughing evily.

[Traegorn]

It would only be okay if the room turned out to be in a plane.... *nods*
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[sparklenvy]

Well that would explain why Bree was homeschooled.

I don't think a normal high school has a runway for the (snakes on a) plane.

[Traegorn]

You know, you realize you've stretched a premise too far when you've found a way to make "Snakes on a Plane" jokes...
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[BadState]

[tannhaus]

[Xen]

[fantasticmrfox]

Hello all, this is my first post here and frankly i've surprise myself by registering, but all of this discussion about religion has fascinated me. In the course of investigating what on earth all of this cassie business might be about i've discovered Crowley and his writings, the Thelemic religion and much more of interest. Thanks are therefore due to the creators of LG15 and of the Cassie subplot (should they be different people) for raising all of this, it's interesting stuff. Perhaps this expansion of our own horizons is somewhat the point?

Anyway, I find it slightly surprising, though I suppose I ought not to, that such a fuss has been stirred over the possibility of a 'satanic' religion being introduced into the story. Do you honestly believe that you or any other will be irreversibly corrupted by encountering such information? My own limited research into the thelemic religion (thanks for the article tannhaus!) reveals an ultimately positive outlook. Even if the opposite were to be true, perhaps it is exactly this squeamish reaction that the creators hope to confront you, the audience, with.

Pre-conceived notions have been discussed in this thread, and rightly so. The quote pulled from the Book of Law asscribes the serpent with a desire to give knowledge. It is this same concept, that of knowledge, that we were to be protected from in Eden. Protected from knowledge? What knowledge must I be protected from? what is too dangerous to be known? who is making this decision for me?

The Thelemic faith seems to me to promote the idea of self-determinism. In other terms, the concept that each of us can think for ourselves, act for ourselves and take responsibility for ourselves (perhaps a step further than Thelemic faith takes, it is my own inference). To call each of us 'A star', to say that each of us can uncover our own 'will' surely gifts the individual with a sense of power that is distant or completely removed in many accepted readings of Christian doctrine.

Similar ideas of individual power can be found in other religions less recent than paganism or other Crowley related offshoots. Shamanism (and i use the term loosely as one that covers many different though fundamentally similar methods of living from 'primitive' times) suggests a similar power resides in each individual. It is an idea I am rather fond of, and I am loath to allow others to think for me, be they preachers from the church of modern science or any other faith based beleif mode (as science most certainly is) .

In short, If you take modern readings of Christian doctrine, a text that itself has been heavily edited over the years, to be absolute - then yes indeed satanism is a disturbing and a harrowing thing, perhaps even one not to be discussed, so as not to let the devil enter your heart! What an awful thing that might be, and one indeed to shy away from. However, if you approach what is put before you with an open mind you may find many more paths to walk, many more options to consider.

I hope I have not rambled too much.. It is late where I am, or early even. Good lord, i've just admitted that I have been kept up to the early hours with this stuff... compelling indeed.

Good luck everyone!

[tannhaus]

[lordgreystoke422]

Someone mentioned that Scientology made more sense than Thelema.. I do believe that L.R. Hubbard was a "follower" of Crowley's for a time. And do a wikipedia on Scientology..I think it actually has the details of the reputed higher level teachings...SOO..with that in mind there can be different levels of various religions..especially newer ones that are not very well known......
What gets me is..the local Thelemite on the boards has already gotten defensive against the Creators..when they have yet to offend... he is just jumping to the conclusion.. I wonder if Thelema has a fleet of attorneys on hand like the Scientologists do.

[Xen]

[BrethrenPedia]