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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Again, just remember that normal is what you make of it. My philosophy is if you're having fun and/or are happy with yourself, and you're not hurting yourself or others, then it's all good.

I will say this as well: Daniel and Jonas probably both want to have the "normal" lives of people our age. But never forget that they care about you, and want to help you. Just like us.

Also, you've gotta tell us what their reactions are when they see that clip! I bet that'll be absolutely classic!


I completely agree with you! I can see you've done some soul searching of your own. Wink As for the boys drinking, it's not that big of a deal. They're just having some fun. Sure I had to take care of them, but I'm glad they were able to go out and enjoy themselves. I'll let you know how they react! Should be interesting...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you definitely have some blackmail material there Razz
and please dont try to wake up the boys with loud music or a scream or anything, their heads would explode Laughing
and remember, no one at our age is normal, so dont worry Wink
i got really sad when you were talking about the other guys on the beach, but dont be down, head's up, and keep strong! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lonelygirl15 wrote:
I can see you've done some soul searching of your own. Wink


Just a little, lol. As a kid I was always into science and figuring out how things worked, to the point that I'd take stuff apart just to see what made it tick. I lost many an action figure to that habit. Laughing That curiosity about things also included people (although I didn't take them apart, lol) and even concepts. Can't say as I've ever taken any real philosophy courses, but I like to sit and philosophize sometimes.

lonelygirl15 wrote:
As for the boys drinking, it's not that big of a deal. They're just having some fun. Sure I had to take care of them, but I'm glad they were able to go out and enjoy themselves. I'll let you know how they react! Should be interesting...


Lol, I see they haven't gotten to the point of shouting out, "By the power of Greyskull!" while on abandoned train tracks yet, then. Because let me tell you, when you start making He-Mann jokes, it's time to put down the bottle! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think you'll like this read

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2267/is_n2_v65/ai_20964252/pg_2


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The idea that there are normal and abnormal ways for people to be and to behave is a very familiar one. So also is the idea that abnormality--or deviance--is something regrettable, deplorable, and even, in some cases, punishable. Here, however, my main concern will be to consider what might be meant by the claim that a person is, in some respect, normal. There is, no doubt, an unsophisticated usage according to which what is normal is what is familiar, and the unfamiliar is feared or condemned as abnormal. But since we are all sophisticated this need not detain us.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sooooo true Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lonelygirl15 wrote:
Esteed wrote:


Again, just remember that normal is what you make of it. My philosophy is if you're having fun and/or are happy with yourself, and you're not hurting yourself or others, then it's all good.

I will say this as well: Daniel and Jonas probably both want to have the "normal" lives of people our age. But never forget that they care about you, and want to help you. Just like us.

Also, you've gotta tell us what their reactions are when they see that clip! I bet that'll be absolutely classic!


I completely agree with you! I can see you've done some soul searching of your own. Wink As for the boys drinking, it's not that big of a deal. They're just having some fun. Sure I had to take care of them, but I'm glad they were able to go out and enjoy themselves. I'll let you know how they react! Should be interesting...


Bree, if you don't mind my saying so, this is just flat out crazy coming from a girl who just got kidnapped in a gas station, lost her memory for 3 days and woke up running through the desert pursued by a "Crazy Guy" who was shot by a possible Watcher Confused I mean Huh Question The three of you really need to stay together and on your toes at all times. They can't go getting sloppy drunk, and you're nuts to be running around Mexico on your own with out them with you. I realize you're probably all getting on each other's nerves by now big time, but seriously, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING Question Question Question
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bree, if you were normal you wouldn't have tons of devoted people watching all your videos and wanting to help you!

Seriously though, don't worry about being normal. Normal people are boring. I think. I've never really fit in with them either, so I don't know what they're like.


There's another thing about what you're going through right now. Years from now, when you are sitting with your grandchildren and talking about the life you lead long ago, you'll look at this time as one of positive energy, close friends, grand adventures and great fun. You won't remember the long hours in the car or the taste of dumpster food or the smell of 2 days without showers. You'll remember Jonas showing up out of the blue; taking you in; bringing you cookies. You'll remember Daniel laying on your bed reading a comic or pounding fish into mush. And you'll remember the affection you've held for each of them.

All right. That's enough maudlin ramblings from an old geezer. Be well. Take care of your boys.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bree, darling, you made my day. I was in the mother of all bad moods until I saw those two lying in the street with that stupid sombrero! Daniel's laughter at the end didn't hurt either. Thank you. Smile

As for feeling normal, you're not abnormal in the slightest, so don't let anyone ever tell you that, okay? I thought drinking and partying was stupid when I was your age too. I understand feeling as though you are missing out on having a normal life though. You and I really aren't too different--I've just been around longer and had time to figure things out a bit more. Just don't let the Order and all the trouble it has caused you crush your spirit--I'd hate to see that happen to you.

You've got your hands full with the boys, but I'd say you are handling everything wonderfully.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bree, I would like to say that I'm proud of the progress you've made in maturing and handling things in a smart way (and thank you for also taking the time to talk to us these days). I'm sure you know that you haven't always done that.

That said, though, I've got to agree with everything Luminous told you. Your boys aren't behaving in an acceptable manner given your circumstances. Don't make excuses for them. You're two drinking binges away from becoming an enabler.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bree,

Given all that has been happening, and adding that you are travelling in a foreign country as well, I think you, Jonas, and Daniel would be safer staying together than going your separate ways. To convince them, you may pretend you want the boys to protect you, when really, we know it is probably you that will do the protecting.

In any case, I hope you learned a little about defending yourself at 'Camp Tachyon,' and am curious as to whether you would describe your personal Kung-Fu style as more Bruce Lee or more Jackie Chan? (I'm sure Jonas can fill you in on these two if you are not that familiar with their films).

Stay safe and enjoy the nice weather this weekend,
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another idea for a destresser: Meditation. You can do it pretty much anywhere (I've even heard stories of people that can meditate in airplane bathrooms to calm their airsickness) so it's a perfect thing to do on the go. It centers you and can give you a calm sort of focus to draw on when things get back, and you can also add some soft, relaxing music or even little confidence affirming messages by recording some positive sayings on a tape recorder and listening to it on low volume while meditating.

My own personal method (the one that's gotten me the most success, anyway) involves something I read in a book called Awakening Your Psychic Powers. Yeah, I know, that title alone seems hokey, but bear with me. The method of meditation described in the book involves sitting in a quiet place (or using some kind of earmuffs to make it quiet for you) relaxing your body, sitting in a semi-upright position so your body doesn't have to expend much energy to keep you upright, and clearing your mind. Then you start some deep, slow breaths in and out, and every time you breath in, you try to hear the word "one" in your head, to symbolize whatever one-ness you want it to. Maybe you want it to symbolize becoming more harmonious with yourself or your emotions. Maybe you want it to symbolize becoming one with the universe. Maybe you just want it to be a word that you can focus your own willpower on. Whatever the case, as hard as it may seem at first, just keep at it. Practice makes perfect, if you'll pardon the cliche.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bree, everyone here has good points...

You do need to know that normal is who you are, not what other people think you should be...BUT...

Luminous, Lurker, and QtheC have all made absolutely excellent points. Right now, things are pretty extreme in your lives. You're in a country where you don't speak the language. You don't know where you can turn or who you can turn to - except each other...and you haven't for a while. You need to stay together, for the sake and safety of each other.

I know what you've just been through is traumatic! But life is going to go on, whether we will it or not. As dramatic as it sounds, we want to see it go with you in it!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can Jonas still access his funds? Or do you guys have any other funds you can dip into? If you do, my suggestion is to hire a translator ASAP. That'll solve the language barrier problem, and you can also ask the translator to show you around, etc. thus solving the problem of being in a strange place you don't know the layout of.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esteed wrote:
Here's another idea for a destresser: Meditation. .


That sounds pretty cool! I've never thought of doing something like that before. Maybe when we get back to the states (hopefully we do!) I'll look into that a bit more. When Jonas and Daniel are being annoying, I can just look inward and go to another place lol.

As for the boys, I'm really not making excuses for them. We've been spying on Alex and as far as we can tell no one knows where we are. Yes, I know we've been wrong before ... anyway, they're just trying to insert a bit of that normalcy into their lives and have some fun. Daniel and I have been gone from home for so long... when was the last time he was able to hang out and have fun? Just because I don't want to party doesn't mean it's wrong. I just think people shouldn't be so quick to judge. Very Happy

I did show them the footage from yesterday and it wasn't very pleasant. First, they were upset that I sqiushed them into the trunk. Lol apparently it wasn't very comfortable! But they were glad I was there to help. Jonas was definitely embarassed, while Daniel thought it was funny. He's out on the beach now practicing his yell. Boys. Rolling Eyes

As for your concerns about the language barrier, most people here do speak at least some English. And once again you underestimate little 'ol me.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entonces, ¡es bueno saber que podrás hacerte entendida, Bree!
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