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User:Jonpro/Xwestsidex

2007-11-02T19:04:00Z

205.188.117.7: written by THE REAL xwestsidex

The following is my attempt to explain the "xwestsidex" situation to anyone who was not around when it began or was not aware that it was happening. I attempt here to be as objective as possible, but obviously I am biased toward defending myself, so I provide as many links of edits as possible to prove my point. My purpose is solely informative and this should not be construed as an attack on anyone.

It all started back on April 5, 2007, with the video [[Lying Bastards]], when [[User:Xwestsidex]] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=upload&user=&page=Image%3AMmm...fish+taco.JPG uploaded] "Image:Mmm...fish taco.JPG". Immediately after, Xwestsidex [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=prev&oldid=33225 added] the image to [[Lying Bastards]]. Next, he [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=next&oldid=33225 added] a caption. [[User:Misty]] shortly afterwards [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=prev&oldid=33234 changed] the caption to something else. The next day, the action broke out again when Misty [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=next&oldid=33339 modified] the caption somewhat and Xwestsidex [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=next&oldid=33340 changed] it as well (note that [[Special:Contributions/152.163.100.209|152.163.100.209]] is Xwestsidex's IP). It was then changed a [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=next&oldid=33348 couple] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=next&oldid=33349 times] by [[User:Chelseyrl]] and Misty. Sensing that this could be a problem, I [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk%3ALying_Bastards&diff=33353&oldid=33261 posted] a comment on [[Talk:Lying Bastards]] in an attempt to resolve the issue. A lengthy discussion followed, after which a compromise was eventually reached. During this, however, Xwestsidex [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=next&oldid=33401 edited] the page again, changing the caption to what he wanted it to be and putting "fuck you! I put up the picture! I should be able to name it what I want!" in the edit summary. The caption was later [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=next&oldid=33453 removed] by an [[Special:Contributions/24.162.112.208|anonymous user]]. At the same time, Misty [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=upload&user=&page=Image%3A166+no+ho+in+mexico.JPG uploaded] [[:Image:166 no ho in mexico.JPG]]. She then [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=next&oldid=33461 changed] the image in the video and also re-added her old caption. Noticing that these were identical images, I [[Special:Undelete/Image:Mmm...fish_taco.JPG|added]] (sorry, you need to be an admin for the link to work, but there's nothing I can do about that) a delete tag to "Image:Mmm...fish taco.JPG". A few days later, seeing no objections to the deletion proposal, I [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Image%3AMmm...fish+taco.JPG deleted] the image.

A few days later, on April 9, Xwestsidex (now using IP [[Special:Contributions/75.26.20.124|75.26.20.124]]) [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Hug_It_Out&diff=33999&oldid=33998 added] a caption to the video [[Hug It Out]]. He then [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Hug_It_Out&diff=next&oldid=34000 modified] his caption, putting "editing caption...dont FUCKIN change it!" in the edit summary. Although User:HyeMew had [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Hug_It_Out&diff=next&oldid=34019 changed] the caption, claiming "We need a better caption than the gangsta southside one", I still felt that Xwestsidex's edit summary was inappropriate. So, I [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:75.26.20.124&diff=prev&oldid=34031 posted] a comment on [[User talk:75.26.20.124]] requesting that he use the talk page to work things out. A couple of days later, he [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:75.26.20.124&diff=next&oldid=34031 replied] on the same page, but not before yet again [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=prev&oldid=34455 changing] the caption on [[Lying Bastards]] with an edit summary of "Imma keep changing it, dont try it." Seeing that he was refusing to participate in the discussion, continuing to change the caption despite being warned, and claiming that he would continue to act this way in the future, I made the decision to [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:75.26.20.124 impose] a one-week block on his account, providing the following as my reason: "continuing to change image captions against community consensus and general disrespect toward other editors". I then [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:75.26.20.124&diff=next&oldid=34460 posted] a comment on his talk page basically telling him that I had blocked him and to "Have a fun week off!". Less than a day later, he used another IP address ([[Special:Contributions/207.62.208.2|207.62.208.2]]) to make a [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:75.26.20.124&diff=next&oldid=34482 post] on the same page asking me to say "Sir, Im sorry I was hatin on you, and you are the biggest pimp daddy on the LG15 forums".

[{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Bree%27s_Dad_Is_Dead&diff=prev&oldid=63043 Since] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Bree&diff=prev&oldid=76137 then], [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Broken_Kid&diff=prev&oldid=56739 Xwestsidex] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Living_with_Girls&diff=prev&oldid=72700 has] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Broken_Kid&diff=prev&oldid=56736 made] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=They_Belong_With_Us&diff=prev&oldid=78971 multiple] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Kicked_Out&diff=prev&oldid=63053 edits], [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:75.8.235.160&diff=prev&oldid=63059 very] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Breeniverse_Timeline&diff=prev&oldid=76144 few] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Christmas_Surprise&diff=prev&oldid=63024 of] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Spencer%27s_apartment&diff=prev&oldid=57590 which] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Van_Sandwich&diff=prev&oldid=78972 have] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=The_Ceremony&diff=prev&oldid=62996 been] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Breeniverse_Timeline&diff=prev&oldid=76143 productive], [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:207.200.116.74&diff=prev&oldid=52047 attacking] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Kicked_Out_-_NBR_Investigates&diff=prev&oldid=56527 LGPedia] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Zoey&diff=prev&oldid=76152 editors] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Then_and_Now:_A_Look_Back_at_Lonelygirl15_Through_Time&diff=prev&oldid=57596 and] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=A_Message_from_Our_Sponsors&diff=prev&oldid=76157 posting] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Science_Proved_Nothing&diff=prev&oldid=40153 inappropriate] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Daniel_Crossed_The_Line&diff=prev&oldid=62985 and] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Sabotage&diff=prev&oldid=78974 irrelevant] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=House_Arrest&diff=prev&oldid=62929 material]. [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Should_I_Or_Shouldn%27t_I%3F&diff=prev&oldid=62927 Of] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Jonpro&diff=prev&oldid=57605 course], [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=In_The_Park&diff=prev&oldid=62930 all] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=They_Beat_Her%21%21%21&diff=prev&oldid=78970 of] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=What%27s_A_Date%3F&diff=prev&oldid=62931 the] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Then_and_Now:_A_Look_Back_at_Lonelygirl15_Through_Time&diff=prev&oldid=57595 edits] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=The_movie_theater&diff=prev&oldid=57602 are] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=My_First_Kiss&diff=prev&oldid=62932 reverted] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Mission_Possible&diff=prev&oldid=60837 quickly] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=The_Equinox&diff=prev&oldid=62934 and] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Learning_To_Drive&diff=prev&oldid=62933 the] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=The_Bree_Solution&diff=prev&oldid=57619 IPs] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=You_Made_the_Right_Choice%2C_Bree%21&diff=prev&oldid=62952 are] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Spencer&diff=prev&oldid=58570 blocked], [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=How_Could_You%3F&diff=prev&oldid=62937 often] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=It%27s_Not_Kidnapping&diff=prev&oldid=43554 with] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=My_Difficult_Decision&diff=prev&oldid=62944 just] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Secrets_Revealed&diff=prev&oldid=76140 "xwestsidex"] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=We_Found_Julia%21%21%21&diff=prev&oldid=41699 as] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:It%27s_Not_Kidnapping&diff=prev&oldid=43559 the] [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Relationships&diff=prev&oldid=57598 reason].

I hope this provides some background for those who were wondering and that the links help to tell the complete story. Although I have this as a subpage of my userpage (as it isn't really LGPedia material), I encourage others to feel free to edit this page. The original form of this page is certain to be biased as I myself wrote it, but with more authors, more objectivity can be attained. Just make sure your edits improve the page rather than make it worse. Respectfully yours, [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]].

==Additional Links==
*[[User talk:Renegade#From: Xwestsidex]]
*[{{SERVER}}{{SCRIPTPATH}}/index.php?title=User_talk:Renegade&diff=82833&oldid=79486 User talk:Renegade#From: Xwestsidex] (Edit was reverted by Zoey immediately afterwards)

==xwestsidex's response==
:Ok, Jonpro...I will be professional with you..and ONLY THIS ONCE.

I never participated in the "discussion" because at first I never knew that discussion page existed (until I saw that I had "new messages" then I knew there was a such thing as a discussion page.) If I had known about it, so help me God I would have torn people up in that discussion forum, and got people the "fish taco" humor for that page. It was a very relevant piece of humor. Due to the script

"theres no ho in mexico"

(this is subcommunicating that Bree doesn't know about the prostitution problems in Tijuana. Seriously, you could get some for 20 bucks down there)

Then Daniel says: "wow, after talking all that trash, Jonas decides to take Bree into town. Why? he wants her to try a fish taco"

Meaning: Jonas wanted to show Bree how many "hos" in mexico there actually were, and experience her first lesbian experience. I know the creators would *say* they didnt mean that, but people lie, and the creators are artists. These people think of shit from all different directions. And yet people were too conservative to realize that, and instead stay on their prissy HIGH HORSES and say "no! we cant do that! lets put something normal instead of having fun with it" But we can't do that because of feminists, conservative republicans, and fuckin dumbasses coming into the forum.

And back then (until I came around) wasnt the person who uploaded the image allowed to put the caption as what they wanted?

This is why I do what I do, Jonpro. The LG admins don't listen to those who want to put a great deal of humor on the forums, to make the LGpedia a place to be entertained. They worry too much about "whats inappropriate" and seriously whats the worst that could happen if we did put inappropriate shit? Howard Stern made his living that way!

And for the record I seriously don't care about the "young sensitive minds that read swearing" because if they dont know how to cuss, then they'll never survive their young years. Its a rough world out there, Jonpro. I come from a place where if you didnt know how to cuss by the 5th grade you'd get ur ass beat. Kids need to stay away from censorship!!

When you banned me, oooooo damn..that comment "have a fun week off" really started it. Nobody gets sarcastic with me, bitch! And I told you that if you apologized all this shit would go away. No more vandalism from me. But nope, haven't heard anything. So therefore more vandalism has been coming into the forums.

Just say what I told you to say, Jonpro. And I won't vandalize anymore...promise.

its very simple. "Xwestsidex, im sorry I was hatin on you and you are the biggest pimp in the LG15 forums."

Say it and it will all go away...

Respectfully yours,

[[User:Xwestsidex|xwestsidex]]

==Jonpro's response to xwestsidex==
Thanks for your reply. I will attempt to be rational with you because you've shown an interest in something other than nonsense and childish behavior. The reason I haven't tried talking with you before is because I didn't want to give you unneeded attention, but since you ''seem'' to be making an honest effort, I'll give you a chance. However, my instincts tell me to just ignore you, so consider this an act of good will. I'll start with your first line.
{{quote|xwestsidex|Ok, Jonpro...I will be professional with you..and ONLY THIS ONCE.}}
This reeks of unprofessionalism, as someone who was truly trying to be professional would not refuse to be professional all but one time. I hope you don't really mean this, or all of this is just a waste of time.
{{quote|xwestsidex|I never participated in the "discussion" because at first I never knew that discussion page existed (until I saw that I had "new messages" then I knew there was a such thing as a discussion page.) If I had known about it, so help me God I would have torn people up in that discussion forum, and got people the "fish taco" humor for that page.}}
This is fair enough. It's not always easy figuring out how everything works. However, I think I made it clear that such a talk page existed when I [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:75.26.20.124&diff=prev&oldid=34031 wrote]:
{{quote|Jonpro|You have the right to feel strongly about a caption, but there's no need to yell at people to not change it. Instead, perhaps put something on the talk page explaining why your caption should be kept.--Jonpro 11:21, 9 April 2007 (CDT)}}
on your talk page. At that point you could have gone to [[Talk:Lying Bastards]] and rationally explained why your caption should be kept. Instead, you simply [{{SERVER}}/lgpedia/index.php?title=Lying_Bastards&diff=prev&oldid=34455 changed] the caption again, saying:
{{quote|xwestsidex|Imma keep changing it, dont try it.}}
To me, this sounds like 1)you are refusing to consider other peoples' opinions on the matter and 2)you will continue to vandalize (i.e. change the picture caption to your own) in the future. In my mind this was unacceptable. Okay, back to your response here:
{{quote|xwestsidex|It was a very relevant piece of humor. Due to the script

"theres no ho in mexico"

(this is subcommunicating that Bree doesn't know about the prostitution problems in Tijuana. Seriously, you could get some for 20 bucks down there)

Then Daniel says: "wow, after talking all that trash, Jonas decides to take Bree into town. Why? he wants her to try a fish taco"

Meaning: Jonas wanted to show Bree how many "hos" in mexico there actually were, and experience her first lesbian experience. I know the creators would *say* they didnt mean that, but people lie, and the creators are artists. These people think of shit from all different directions. And yet people were too conservative to realize that, and instead stay on their prissy HIGH HORSES and say "no! we cant do that! lets put something normal instead of having fun with it" But we can't do that because of feminists, conservative republicans, and fuckin dumbasses coming into the forum.}}
Perhaps you were right and your caption was better than the other one. This isn't really about that. You may have noticed that I did not get involved in the "caption debate" other than to try to prevent an edit war. I was more concerned about keeping the peace.
{{quote|xwestsidex|And back then (until I came around) wasnt the person who uploaded the image allowed to put the caption as what they wanted?}}
Um, no. I'm sorry that you got this understanding, but every edit that is made here is subject to the rest of the community. No one has the right to put whatever they want somewhere just because they were the one that uploaded a picture, for example.
{{quote|xwestsidex|This is why I do what I do, Jonpro. The LG admins don't listen to those who want to put a great deal of humor on the forums, to make the LGpedia a place to be entertained. They worry too much about "whats inappropriate" and seriously whats the worst that could happen if we did put inappropriate shit? Howard Stern made his living that way!

And for the record I seriously don't care about the "young sensitive minds that read swearing" because if they dont know how to cuss, then they'll never survive their young years. Its a rough world out there, Jonpro. I come from a place where if you didnt know how to cuss by the 5th grade you'd get ur ass beat. Kids need to stay away from censorship!!}}
I don't know about on the forums (as I'm very rarely there), but here it has sort of been accepted that we keep things to a PG-13 level. I didn't make this decision, and I'm not sure anyone could pinpoint who did, and yet that seems to be the general view. However, just like everything else here (except things directly dictated by [[the Creators]]), the issue is negotiable. But this negotiation must happen in a rational, respectful manner. If you would like to start a discussion about censorship here on the LGPedia at [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony|Lucy's Balcony]], for instance, you have every right to do so. But any and all personal attacks or disrespect toward other users will not be tolerated.
{{quote|xwestsidex|When you banned me, oooooo damn..that comment "have a fun week off" really started it. Nobody gets sarcastic with me, bitch! And I told you that if you apologized all this shit would go away. No more vandalism from me. But nope, haven't heard anything. So therefore more vandalism has been coming into the forums.}}
When I said that, I was pretty angry at the way you had been acting, and I think that was justified. Perhaps I was disrespectful, but at the time I felt that you deserved worse. As for apologizing, that's not exactly what you asked for:
{{quote|xwestsidex|Just say what I told you to say, Jonpro. And I won't vandalize anymore...promise.

its very simple. "Xwestsidex, im sorry I was hatin on you and you are the biggest pimp in the LG15 forums."

Say it and it will all go away...

Respectfully yours,

[[User:Xwestsidex|xwestsidex]]}}
First of all, I was not "hatin on you", as you say. I was simply doing what I believed was the best thing to do in the situation. Second of all, what does you being a pimp have to do with anything?

Lastly, I just want to point out how immature all of this actually is. Vandalizing a wiki about an online video series does not make you "cool" and it is not an effective way of getting your point across, whatever it may be. A mature approach would be to use reason and common sense. You can hold whatever views you want, and people should respect that, so all I'm asking is that you're as respectful to everyone else as you would like them to be to you. Fair enough?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:46, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

==Xwestsidex's response to Jonpro==

::...

::....

.....You seem like you know how to think.

A couple of things first: I dont care whether its cool or not. Its fun to Vandalize shit when the particular video is kinda gay.

How about this tho:

I can put an end to all this (and you dont gotta apologize) If I can get my own page of the wiki to vandalize on all I want, put shit on, and peeps can come by and vandalize it too and talk shit about people on the shit WITHOUT deleting and censoring stuff. And I want to put a link to kinda advertise it on 3 or 4 different pages so that peeps have an easy way to get to it.

How does that sound?

--

on second thought, i have a new outlet. http://xwestsidex.blogspot.com --- xwestsidex

--
I swear that wasnt me^^. However, Xwestsidexxy, your comments were hilarious on that blogspot. Lemme get the password to that so that we can collab on talkin some hilarious shit on that page.--[[User:xwestsidex|xwestsidex]] (the real one)

User:Jonpro/Xwestsidex

2007-11-02T06:20:23Z

205.188.117.7: reply-xwestsidex

User:Jonpro/Xwestsidex

2007-11-01T21:40:11Z

205.188.117.7: my response-xwestsidex..before you revert...read it...its serious!

What Happened to Us???

2007-04-26T18:13:24Z

205.188.117.7: I think this caption fits well because Daniel IS giving a "thizz face

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'''What Happened to Us???''' is the one hundred eightieth video in the lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].

==Transcript==
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==Notes==