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Breeniverse Timeline

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==Before YouTube==

:'''May 25th, 1799 ''' - Napoleon's troops, along with artist Vivant Denon reach [[Denderah]]. Denon makes sketches of the Zodiac.

:'''October 12th, 1875''' - [[Aleister Crowley]] is born.

:'''1917 or 1918''' - According to the video [[What Happened?]] the rogue Elder's organs are "almost 90 years old". This places his birth (or at least his organs) around this year.

:'''1943''' - According to Daniel in his video [[Aleister Crowley (Video)|Aleister Crowley]] a girl is [[1943 abduction|kidnapped]] in Arizona, and Crowley may have been involved.

:'''1980s''' - Bree's mother meets Gemma's mother in Edinburgh at university. Bree's parents meet at a showing of [[Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead]].

:'''1987''' - [[Gemma]], [[Jonas]] and [[Gina]] are born.

:'''1988''' - [[Daniel]] is born.

:'''April 5th, 1989''' - [[Sarah]] is born.

:'''October 26th, 1989''' - [[Bree]] is born in Russian Siberia, near Lake Baikal.

:'''1989''' - [[Gina]] and [[Bree]] were purchased by [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals|Verdus]] and taken to America.

:'''1992''' - [[Emma]] is born.

:'''1994''' - Bree begins treatment for her lazy eye.

:'''1996''' - According to Gemma, a family disappears after their daughter participates in the same ceremony in which Bree is eventually chosen to play part. (Many have speculated this is [[Tachyon]]'s family)

:'''1998''' - Bree's family moves to [[New Zealand]], where she briefly goes to a public school for the first time.

:'''2000''' - Bree's family visits the Northern Territory of Australia. [[Jonas's parents]] are lost at sea in the Pacific Ocean and assumed dead.

:'''2002''' - Bree's family moves to Nottinghamshire, England, where Bree meets Gemma and befriends her dog.

:'''2004''' - Bree's family moves back to America, where she meets Daniel and Cassie during a brief stint in public school. Her classmates make fun of her and call her "[[Stargirl]]". In the same year, Daniel's grandmother passes away.

==2006==
===May===
:'''May 12th''' - Bree registers the [[YouTube]] account lonelygirl15 and begins commenting on the videos of many popular YouTubers.

:'''May 24th''' - Bree posts her first video [[Paytotheorderofofof vs. Dinosaur]].

===June===
:'''Mid-June''' - Daniel graduates from high school; Bree is not allowed to attend his graduation party.

:'''June 16th''' - Bree posts the video [[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] which, as noted in the title, is her first blog. Two days later, she posts the video [[Purple Monkey (video)|Purple Monkey]], which introduces her beloved puppet.

:'''June 23rd''' - Although previously mentioned in videos and comments, Daniel makes his first on-camera appearance in the video [[The Danielbeast]].

===July===

:'''July 4th''' - In the video, [[My Parents Suck...]] Bree reveals that Daniel came to her house to take her on a hiking trip, but her parents refuse to let her go. The next day Daniel creates a YouTube account and responds with the video [[Daniel Responds]].

:'''July 9th''' - Bree posts the first video of the [[Proving Science Wrong (series)|PSW Series]] — [[Proving Science Wrong!]]

:'''July 12th''' - Bree and Daniel finally go hiking together. Bree posts the video [[My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!]] the next day. Romantic tensions on the trip lead to the video [[Boy Problems...]]

:'''July 29th''' - [[Drew Avery|Bree's dad]] nearly catches her making the blog entry [[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]]. He takes Daniel aside for a personal talk in which he asks Daniel to film a play at Bree's summer camp. Daniel refuses.

===August===
:'''August 6th''' - Bree finally confronts Daniel about his conversation with her dad in the video [[What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?]]. Daniel makes Bree upset by trying to light some candles in her room. The picture of [[Aleister Crowley]] is first seen in this video, as is [[Thor]]. This leads to a fight on August 15th between Bree and Daniel in the video [[I Probably Shouldn't Post This...]]

:'''August 24th''' - Bree has the play. Daniel films a short video [[To Hell With Bree's Dad (yeah!)]] announcing that he's going to make amends with Bree and go to her play. After the play, Bree and Daniel go on what could be considered a date.

:'''August 28th''' - Daniel takes Bree swimming in the San Gabriel River. The next day Bree posts the video [[Swimming!]], in which she first mentions [[Cassie]].

:'''August 31st''' - Bree and Daniel make cookies. [[P. Monkey]] signals that something momentous will happen on October 12, 2006.

===September===
:'''September 3rd''' - Bree's parents tell her [[A Change In My Life |she's been chosen to participate]] in a [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]].

:'''September 9th''' - Bree [[I'm Going to the Party!|sneaks out with Daniel]] for the first time. They go to a party where they meet with [[Andrea]] and [[Paul]], who invite them to go out again with them. Later, she is caught by her Dad who grounds her and bans Daniel from the house. A Few days later Bree sneaks out to meet with Daniel at a park so they can go bowling with Andrea and Paul. Daniel finds out that Bree is taking iron pills.

:'''September 16th''' - Bree sneaks out to a party with Daniel. [[My First Kiss| They kiss for the first time]].

:'''September 20th''' - Bree sneaks out to meet Daniel, and [[Learning To Drive|learns how to drive]]. They get in a fight over Bree's religion, in which Bree mentions the [[Denderah|Order of Denderah]] for the first time.

:''' September 23rd ''' - Bree attends the Equinox celebration with her parents, and is introduced to [[Lucy]]. The next day Bree sneaks out to see Daniel, and they have a fight. Bree confesses to her parents that she's been sneaking out. Bree and Daniel are [[My Difficult Decision|no longer speaking to each other]].

:'''September 27th ''' - Lucy is [[Who Is This?|seen]] by Daniel for the first time, as she and Bree go to a park to practice for the ceremony; Bree [[My Helper|asks Daniel not to follow her anymore]].

===October===
:'''October 1st ''' - Bree goes to possibly see a doctor with Lucy, and is followed by Daniel.

:'''October 6th''' - Daniel begins to research Bree's religion and posts the video [[Order Of Denderah]].

:'''October 12th''' - Bree participates in the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]]. While Daniel spies on the ceremony, someone takes pictures of him, which he later discovers on Lucy's computer.

:'''October 15th''' - Daniel follows Lucy to her home and breaks in to discover the pictures of him spying on [[The Ceremony (ritual)|Bree's ritual]]. Two days later Bree hints that Daniel may be in danger for making [[The Ceremony]] and [[Following The Helper]].

:'''October 19th''' - Gemma posts [[Nut Kills Man|her first video]]. Sometime during this weekend, Daniel calls Bree on the phone for the first time in nearly a month. Bree also reveals that [[I Lied To Daniel|the ceremony on the 12th was fake]].

:'''October 24th''' - Bree goes to Daniel's friend's house to talk to him, and [[I Listened To Daniel|reconsiders doing the Ceremony]]

===November===
:'''November 1st''' - Bree's parents tell her that the [[What Makes Us Sad?|deacons refuse to let her get out of performing the ceremony]].

:'''November 4th''' - Bree's parents are apparently kidnapped by Lucy and a [[Deacon]].

:'''November 7th''' - Bree and Daniel [[On The Run|go into hiding]] for several days since witnessing Bree's parents being taken away.

:'''November 15th''' - Gemma warns Bree and Daniel [[Someone's Following You|to be on the lookout]], revealing the presence of the [[A Watcher|watchers]]. Jonas [[My Name Is Jonas| posts his first video]].

:'''November 23rd''' - Bree goes out to the movies and posts the video [[Date With P. Monkey]]. The next day Bree decides to have a picnic-style [[Thanksgiving]] dinner with Daniel on a hiking trail. The idea is proposed that Bree and Daniel go to stay at Jonas's house.

===December===
:'''December 1st''' - In response to advice from Tachyon, Daniel decides to ditch his car. Bree and Daniel are living on the [[Homeless|streets]] and in a [[Warwalking|warehouse]]. They argue about whether they can trust Jonas and whether they should return home.

:'''December 9th''' - Daniel and Bree wait inside a parking garage for Jonas to show up. When he does, Daniel changes his mind and tells Bree that he's going home. Bree [[Your Decision|leaves Daniel for Jonas]] a couple days later, Daniel posts [[Back Home|a video]], telling about his return to his parents and giving an apology to Bree.

:'''December 11th''' - Over the next few days, Tachyon posts videos, which shows footage of Gemma [[Gemma? (Part I)|walking down a sunny street]] that is clearly not in London, [[Gemma? (Part II)|Gemma and Lucy getting in to a car together]], and [[Gemma? (Part III)| talking on a phone to an unknown person about OpAphid]].

:'''December 15th''' - Over the next week, Daniel searches Bree's house, [[Back At Bree's|finding a suspicious box]], [[Undisclosed Location|discovers a hidden camera in his room]] and flees. He then [[Breaking And Entering|sneaks into the warehouse]] from which the box was sent, and finds a large supply of [[Bree's injections|EPOGEN]]. Meanwhile, Bree [[Bree Phone Home|attempts to contact relatives]].

:'''December 25th''' - Daniel arrives at Jonas's house [[Christmas Surprise|before dawn on Christmas]]. Jonas films Bree and Daniel's reunion, but wakes up the next morning to find [[Bree's Gone|Bree missing]], along with his car and one of his credit cards.

:'''December 28th''' - Daniel and Jonas [[Mystery Movies|uncover the code]] that Bree used to communicate with her father, and [[Roadtrip|set out to catch up with her]] at her meeting location.

:'''December 31st''' - Jonas and Daniel find Bree with her father, and rescue her from the Order. However, during the rescue, [[The Unthinkable Happened|Bree's dad is shot]] and [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|presumed dead]]. Other deaths this day include [[Brother]] killing [[Gemma]] & Dr. [[Isaac Gilman]] dying in a mysterious car crash off the I-5.'

==2007==
===January===
:'''January 15th''' - Daniel implies that [[Bree And I Hooked Up|he and Bree slept together]], which [[Daniel's A Liar|Bree vehemently denies]].

:'''January 26th''' - After [[For The Ladies|going out to the bowling alley]], [[Daniel's Missing!|Daniel is abducted]].

:'''January 29th''' - Bree sets out with Jonas [[Looking For Daniel|to track down Daniel]]. This results in a road trip, and they end up having to [[Sleepover|stay in a motel that night]]. Jonas repeatedly assures the viewers (Daniel in particular, wherever he is) that his sharing a motel bed with Bree is strictly platonic.

===February===
:'''February 4th''' - While Brainwashed, Daniel posts an [[Miss Me?|OpAphid style video]], reassuring Bree that the Order is good, and she should go through with the ceremony. The next day Bree offers to [[Me For Daniel| surrender herself to the Order]], to perform the ceremony, if Daniel is released.

:'''February 10th''' - With the Help of [[Tachyon]] and [[Brother]], Bree and Jonas [[The Human Ransom|rescue Daniel]], Tachyon [[Rescuing Daniel|shares a lot of information]] with Bree.

:'''February 16th''' - Jonas confronts [[Watch This!|a watcher]] and discovers his house is no longer safe from The Order, so they [[Yellow Snow|go into Hiding]] at [[Jonas's cabin]] in the woods.

:'''February 26th''' - Bree [[How Dumb Am I?|finds a Watcher symbol ]], in Jonas's cabin and thinks Jonas is part of a plan by The Order. She [[Bree Is Crazy| ties up Jonas]], refusing to let him go until he explains the symbol to her.

===March===

:'''March 1st''' - After [[What The Hell?!??!|escaping]], Jonas posts the video Jonas [[Proving Bree Wrong|finds boxes of Information]] proving that Jonas parent's were not part of the Order, but rather [[Sorry Jonas|fighting against it]].

:'''March 7th''' - Bree, Jonas and Daniel, go to the house of Jonas's aunt [[Alex]], looking for [[My Hand Hurts|more information]].

:'''March 11th''' - Alex is [[Aunt Alex|picked up from the airport]] by Daniel and Jonas. Bree decides to hang out with Tachyon instead and get some [[Training Hard|training]].

:'''March 14th''' - Daniel, Alex, and Jonas [[Uncle Dan|go to a party]] where [[Lucy!?!?!|a photo of Lucy]] is spotted.

:'''March 17th''' - Jonas [[Alex Is...|confronts Alex]], who admits to being part of the Order, and claims Jonas's parents are still alive.

:'''March 20th''' - Daniel and Jonas [[Truckstop Reunion|meet up with Bree again]] and [[Vegas, Baby!|head for Las Vegas]]. They are then tracked down there, but manage to escape.

:'''March 26th''' - The Order [[Subjects Apprehended|capture]] Bree, Daniel and Jonas and subject them to [[Psychological Torture]]. Bree agrees to do the ceremony.

:'''March 31st''' - They [[Communication Terminated| manage to escape from where the Order were keeping them]] but Bree is spotted by the cameraman, who is suddenly shot. None of the three can [[Missing Days|remember what happened]].

===April===

:'''April 3rd''' - Bree gives background information about [[Losing My Religion|her mother and her religion]], which she finally gives a name -- the [[Hymn of One|Hymn Of One]].

:'''April 4th''' - The three [[Lying Bastards|follow Alex to Mexico]], and Bree and Daniel [[Confrontation|confront]] Alex. Bree mentions that people have been saying that someone drugged them, but Alex denies that this was The Order's doing. Jonas later [[Hug It Out|makes up with Alex]].

:'''April 9th''' - [[Jules]] posts her [[Call Me Jules|first video]] on YouTube.

:'''April 12th''' - [[Nikki Bower]] [[Following the Drugs - NBR Investigates|reports]] that Tachyon, Brother, and OpAphid are confirmed to be missing and haven't been seen since.

:'''April 13th''' - Alex [[The Perfect Beach|takes the three to her favorite beach]], but when Lucy is suddenly there, Jonas assumes that Alex has set them up. He grabs a gun from the front seat and threatens them with it. Alex claims that they are there for her, that they have a "new girl" for the ceremony, and that Bree is no longer needed.

:'''April 14th''' - [[Taylor]] posts her [[First Video (I know, lame title)|first video]] on Revver.

:'''April 16th''' - The three decide to stay in [[The bunker|a bunker]] that has been used by [[The Resistance]]. Jonas found out about it while looking through his parent's files, and they discover more clues there. Bree learns that Jules could be the [[New Girl]] that Alex was talking about, by watching [[The Ceremony Girl?! - NBR Investigates|Nikki Bower's video]].

:'''April 26th''' - Bree [[A Solid Lead|learns]] that Taylor thinks she [[I Recognize Her!|knows who Julia is]], and [[OUT OF THE BUNKER!!!|decides to go to Texas]]. There, they meet Taylor, as well as [[Crazy Emo Chick|her sister]].

===May===

:'''May 4th''' - [[We Found Julia!!!|Jules is tracked down]], Bree attempts to talk to her about how she shouldn't do the ceremony but Jules runs off. Bree and Daniel kidnap Jules.

:'''May 9th''' - Jules escapes. They eventually find her, but Lucy and the watchers show up. Bree goes to talk to them and [[What the F*@k???|ends up going with them]], leaving Daniel and Jonas perplexed.

:'''May 18th''' - Taylor discovers that Jules (unlike Bree) is not adopted. Daniel [[Let's Play Doctor|steals Jules's medical records]], which contain a page with the EPOGEN symbol on it and the note "Trait Negative."

:'''May 25th''' - A brainwashed Bree makes a [[Sing With Me|video advertising the hymn of one]], but containing a hidden message.

:'''May 26th''' - Sarah meets up with the boys in California. The three of them [[CAMP PLAY|find a box]] containing significant [[Opening the Box|information about Bree]].

===June===

:'''June 1st''' - Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah [[It's A Cult|infiltrate a Hymn of One recruitment seminar]], and [[Getting Her Back|get Bree back]], against her will.

:'''June 5th''' - In a rented cabin, Bree's friends try to [[Bedside Manner|deprogram her]].

:'''June 8th''' - In the morning after [[HOLY SH%T!!!|their first kiss]], Jonas discovers that [[The Morning After|Bree has run away]].

:'''June 15th''' - Bree, apparently still brainwashed, uploads [[Going Home|a video from her phone]], stating that she is lost asking the Hymn of One to come find her. They pick her up shortly afterwards.

:'''June 18th''' - Taylor [[A New Lead|cracks a barcode]] from Bree's dad's box, tracing it to the Wyman Foundation in San Diego, CA.

:'''June 19th''' - Daniel finds the name [[Isaac Gilman|Dr. Isaac Gilman]] in the box, but when they [[The Mad Scientist|go to the Wyman Foundation]] to find him, they are told he doesn't work there.

:'''June 20th''' - After more research, the gang [[Sweating Bullets|infiltrates Issac Gilman's health club]], where they meet [[The Mistress (character)|a woman]] who claims to be able to help them.

:'''June 22nd''' - They [[The Mistress|privately meet with the woman]], who reveals herself to be Issac Gilman's former mistress. They also learn that Gilman died on 12/31/06 (the same day as Bree's dad).

:'''June 25th''' - Jonas [[In (Search of) sanity...|heads back to Zavalla]], where he and Taylor eventually contact Issac Gilman's son, [[Spencer]].

:'''June 29th''' - Spencer [[What Up Blogosphere!|posts a video response]], stating that he knows nothing of his father's work and that he wishes to be left alone.
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===July===

:'''July 6th''' - Daniel and Sarah [[All Wet|find Isaac Gilman's research files]], at [[Look Back| Jonas's parent's yacht club]], while Jonas and Taylor [[Going Back to Cali|return to California]].

:'''July 11th''' - Spencer and Taylor, with the help of the forum members, [[The Bree Solution|decipher the damaged documents]], and [[Deep Throat|discover the key]] to making Bree 'trait negative'.

:'''July 12th''' - It is revealed by [[Deep Throat|the informant]] nicknamed "Deep Throat" by [[Daniel]] that the Ceremony will be within a month and that Bree is currently in a lockup.

===August===
:'''August 3rd''' - Bree [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 10 of 12 – 5 pm|sacrifices her life]] for Jonas, Daniel, Taylor, Sarah, and Spencer.

:'''August 5th-10th''' - [[My Parents Suck Too|Daniel]], [[Speak to Me!|Jonas]], [[The Unsolvable Formula|Spencer]], [[Sluttiness Prevails|Taylor and Sarah]] all return to their respective homes. A mysterious new blogger named [[Claire|LaRezisto]] [[We Reach Out|posts a video]] with the message "Fight the Order - Join the Resistance."

:'''August 18th''' - LaRezisto [[Remember Them?|posts a video]] that shows [[Jonas's parents]], alive and well. He claims that they have no memory of Jonas.

:'''August 22nd''' - Daniel [[The Email|opens a e-mail from Bree]], and a "man in black" appears immediately outside his house. Daniel sends a copy to LaRezisto, then quickly deletes it.

:'''August 24th''' - Jonas [[A Family Affair|goes to meet his parents]], and is introduced to his younger sister [[Emma]]. Later in the day, [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] show up at his parents' house, and it is revealed that his parents belong to the Hymn of One.

:'''August 30th''' - Daniel [[Hot Date|goes on a date]] with his new girlfriend, [[Mallory]]. Taylor discovers that the new '[[trait positive|Trait Positive]]' girl that the Order wants is Emma.

:'''August 31st''' - Agents of the Order [[Home Invasion|invade Jonas's parents' home]] and try to take Emma. Both of Jonas's parents are shot (but not killed) in the struggle. Daniel comes to help, and he and Jonas take Emma to a safehaven in [[Arizona]].

===September===

:'''September 4th''' - Jonas, now staying in a motel near the [[Grand Canyon]], asks Sarah to bring the vial of serum that Spencer made, to make Emma 'trait negative.'

:'''September 6th''' - Taylor [[Gross Guy|tells Jonas]] that Sarah has lost the serum. Jonas [[Stupid B!tch!|is infuriated]], and demands that she find it.

:'''September 7th''' - Sarah [[Revealing My Secret|reveals]] that she, in fact, has the serum, but she "wanted a normal life." She then goes to Arizona.

:'''September 8th''' - The Order comes and [[Shadow of Death|tries again to forcibly take Emma]]. Emma, in desperation, throws herself at a [[Shadow]], and he hits the ground dead. The gang then runs and escapes the Order's grasp.

:'''September 13th''' - LaRezisto [[Help Us!|claims that 'trait positive' girls have special powers]], and that Emma has the power to stop the Order once and for all.

:'''September 14th''' - Jonas, convinced of her power, [[Decision Time|asks Emma to stay]] and help fight the Order. Emma reveals that she has already started taking the serum, to become 'trait negative' and live a normal life.

:'''September 16th''' - Emma [[Last Train To...|gets on a train]] to go back home.

:'''September 17th''' - Jonas sees Carl and Sonia handing out HoO fliers and [[Spreading the Song|discussing the Ceremony]].

:'''September 18th''' - Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah [[Living with Girls|move]] into [[The rented house|a rented house together]].

:'''September 20th''' - Jonas and Sarah go on a [[Stakeout... With A Girl|Stakeout]] to spy on Carl and Sonia and a [[Watcher]] speaks for the first time in the series. On the same day in a [[I Like Being Me|different blog]] Emma announces she does not want to fight the order and will be taking her last injection.

:'''September 21st''' - Daniel and Jonas go to the Griffith Observatory where they see Sonia and Carl [[Robbing the Cradle|bring]] a [[Trait positive]] baby to her adoptive parents.

:'''September 23rd''' - LaRezisto posts a [[Join Me!|video]] in which a trait positive woman named [[Claire]] urges Emma to join her in fighting the Order.

:'''September 24th''' - Daniel and Sarah tell us that Jonas [[How Could You? (season 2)|has taken]] Emma to Claire without their consent.

:'''September 26th''' - Daniel begins making a [[Student Film]] for class, and on the same day [[Finding Help|Jonas and Emma find Claire]].

:'''September 27th''' - Sarah announces that she is [[No More Lies|turning over a new leaf]] and tells Mallory about Daniel's involvement in the Resistance, to which Mallory replies that she [[Secrets Revealed|already knows]].

:'''September 28th''' - Jonas lets Claire take Emma deeper into the woods without him. [[Virgil|A watcher]] appears and [[Watch Your Back|tells Jonas]] that Claire is a "LaRezisto Shadow."

===October===

:'''October 1st''' - Daniel shows us his [[My School Project|finished student film]].

:'''October 2nd''' - The Watcher and Jonas look for Emma and Claire. The Watcher [[My Fatal Mistake|reveals]] that there is a rouge Elder trying to obtain Eternal Life by going against the Order, he also tells us that this is the Elder who kidnapped BDJ in Vegas. On the same day, Daniel tells us that Jonas has returned but [[He's Not Talking]] about what happened.

:'''October 3rd''' - Sarah [[That Arrogant Jerk!|vents]] to us about Jonas's mistakes and Mallory [[Please Help|asks us to help]] edit Daniels student film.

:'''October 4th''' - Daniel and Jonas [[Home Sweet Home?|go back]] to Jonas's old house to look for more information. When there, they find that the house has been gone through and there are things missing from the box they found in the cabin.

:'''October 5th''' - Sarah and Mallory tell us that Daniel and Jonas found out Emma is hidden somewhere in L.A. and then they [[Carving Pumpkins|carve pumpkins]]. On the same day, Daniel and Jonas return home and Sonia [[Tailgating|follows]] soon after.

:'''October 8th''' - Sonia tells us more information and denounces her faith in the HoO. She offers to help TAAG fight the order with the information she has.

:'''October 10th''' - Claire and Emma make a video in which Emma seems to be coerced by Claire to tell everyone she's OK. Claire warns TAAG not to try finding Emma.

:'''October 11th''' - Jonas obsesses over finding a code in Emma's [[Emma's Safe|last video]], Daniel and Sarah help Sonia track down the Ceremony [[Robbing the Cradle|baby]], and LaRezisto/Claire make a new video once again attempting to force Emma into saying she's fine.

:'''October 13th''' - Daniel and Jonas help Sonia [[They'll Do Anything|kidnap]] the ceremony baby.

:'''October 15th''' - Sarah is [[Battle of the Sexes|outraged]] she was not included in recovering the baby, and attempts to show her independence by building a birdhouse. The boys later [[Nice Try|make fun]] of Sarah's attempts.

:'''October 16th''' - Sonia is shown having been [[They Beat Her!!!|beaten]] by a HoO member because she would not reveal where the baby was.

:'''October 17th''' - [[Chris]] posts a [[They Belong With Us|video]] denying that there is an [[the Order|Order]] and warning TAAG to quit trying to save the trait positive girls. That same day, Sarah and a reluctant Mallory go find Chris at a bar, and Mallory [[A Woman's Touch|flirts]] with Chris to secretly get information.

:'''October 19th''' - TAAG finds out that there has been a new partnership created between [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]], the [[Wyman Foundation]], and the [[Hymn of One]].

:'''October 20th''' - Emma and Claire make another [[Storytelling|video]] in which Emma tells us a story.

:'''October 24th''' - Emma and Claire make a [[Goodbye For Now|video]] with Emma telling TAAG goodbye, and confirming she will be performing [[the Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony.]] On the same day a season two [[Lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far|recap]] was posted.

:'''October 25th''' - Jonas and Daniel [[Is This The End?|discover]] the code Emma has been sending, and go to stop the Ceremony, the video ends with Jonas telling us they may not make it out alive.

:'''October 26th''' - TAAG manages to find Emma, the rouge elder is shot by Claire who in turn is shot by the Watcher, and Emma's father tells her that Jonas will no longer be bothering her.

:'''October 29th''' - Jonas [[Cat Hunt|announces]] ([[A New Hope!!!|again)]] he will no longer be running from the Order, but fighting them.

:'''October 30th''' - Emma posts a [[Around the World|video]] where she tells us that she is in hiding with her parents.

:'''October 31st''' - Daniel [[School's Out|tries]] to get back into film school, but his teacher denies him. On the [[School's In|same day]], Mallory takes the professor out to coffee and convinces him to take Daniel back.

===November===
:'''November 1st''' - Sarah tours L.A. and questions why she is still there.

:'''November 2nd''' - Jonas attempts to find a connection between [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]], The [[Wyman Foundation]] and the [[Hymn of One]], concluding that they are each fronts for [[the Order]].

:'''November 5th''' - Jonas and Sarah attempt to investigate the [[Lullaby Project]] by going to the [[The Lullaby Project Center|building]] where it is ran, with little success.

:'''November 7th''' - Emma gives us an [[Sick Dreams|update]] where she tells us that she is OK, but has been under the weather and having strange dreams.

:'''November 8th''' - Daniel and Mallory [[Gay or Not?|speculate]] about their [[Professor DelMundo|professor's]] sexual orientation.

:'''November 9th''' - Daniel gives a [[The Beast's Turn - "MMYB"|shoutout]] to [[Greg Gallows]] and challenges him to color and braid his hair and then do a [[Grillz feat. Danielbeast, LG15, P. Monkey, and O'n.|Grillz video]]. On the same day, Daniel believes that Sarah and Jonas were [[abducted?!|abducted]]

:'''November 12th''' - Daniel, still concerned for Sarah and Jonas, contacts Taylor for the first time 2 months, but no one has heard anything.

:'''November 13th''' - Sarah and Jonas post a [[Groping in the Dark|video]] telling Daniel to come find them, as they have been locked in the back of a Semi for nearly four days

:'''November 14th''' - Sarah and Jonas are [[Rescued?!|rescued]] from the back of the truck, not by Daniel, but by [[Chris]], [[Carl]], and [[Claudia]].

:'''November 15th''' - [[Sarah]] posts about [[Lullaby Project|The Lullaby Project's]] encampment. She breifly details the surroundings and how the camp works.

:'''November 16th''' - Jonas and Sarah get into an argument and Jonas [[DANGEROUS DESERT|leaves]] Sarah alone in the desert, only to come back for her, but finding that she has disappeared.

:'''November 19th''' - Finding out Sarah is on her way home, Jonas posts a [[Would you pick me up?|video]] from a hotel room where he has received a mysterious package containing a VHS. On the same day, he posts the [[Who's that girl?|recording]] which shows a young girl in a doctor's office.

:'''November 20th''' - Daniel takes a [[Drunk By Bedtime|trip]] down memory lane.

:'''November 21st''' - Jonas shows more of the [[Doctor Visit|VHS tape]] and cannot understand it.

:'''November 22nd''' - Emma posts a Thanksgiving [[Eat Pie|video]] where she tells us she and her family are still in hiding.

:'''November 23rd''' - Taylor posts a [[Shocking Discovery|discovery]] that the faceless doctor is actually revealed in the mirror at the end of the VHS.

:'''November 24th''' - Taylor [[OMG! You have to save her!]] tells Jonas he has to save Sarah, as the doctor revealed in the mirror, is also the researcher from [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]] and she fears for Sarah's safety.

:'''November 26th''' - Jonas [[Ambushed in a Tent|shows]] us he has been following the [[Dr. Calvin Hart|doctor]] and finds him in a tent packing his things. The doctor tells Jonas that he was the person who gave him the VHS tape and that they will talk about it later.

:'''November 27th''' - Emma [[Can't Sleep. Wanna chat?|posts]] a video in which she cannot sleep and worries about her rash.

:'''November 28th''' - Mallory posts a [[XxKissKissxx|video]] to Daniel where she is helping [[Professor DelMundo]] with a film project. On the same day, Daniel makes a video [[Jonas Cares|telling]] us that Jonas is on top of trying to find Sarah. On the same day, Jonas shows us his interesting [[Evil Drug Company Exposed!|conversation]] with Dr. Hart.

:'''November 29th''' - Sarah finally posts a [[Missing Girl Found|video]] letting us know that she is alive and still with the Lullaby Project helping them pass out care packages with a new friend, [[Jennie]].

:'''November 30th''' - Jonas and Dr. Hart are frightened by someone knocking on their door, assuming it is [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]], they begin making an escape, however they soon find out it is [[Emma]].

===December===

:'''December 3rd''' - Jonas gives us an [[Playing Doctor|update]], letting us know he and Emma are back at home, and telling us that Emma had to run away from her parents because they would not stop injecting her even after seeing what [[Doctor Visit|happened]] to [[Gina]], and that Dr. Hart wants to study her and help her turn trait negative without dying.

:'''December 4th''' - [[Jennie]] is officially [[Jennie Bares All|introduced]] to us by Sarah and she tells us about herself.

:'''December 5th''' - Daniel [[Conjugal Visit|tells]] us he is going to go surprise Mallory on the set of the film she is helping to make.

:'''December 6th''' - Daniel goes to find Mallory and instead sees her [[Hot for Teacher|kissing]] Professor DelMundo.

:'''December 7th''' - Jonas, Emma, and Dr. Hart [[Germ Warfare Attack|break into]] [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]] to use the lab facilities for Emma.

:'''December 11th''' - Emma and Dr. Hart [[Get Your Freak On|bond]] and talk about [[Gina]].

:'''December 12th''' - Mallory makes a [[I'll Do Whatever It Takes|plea]] to the audience to vote on whether or not she should keep trying to apologize to Daniel and if he should take her back.

:'''December 13th''' - Daniel [[Rebound Action|watches]] Mallory's video and attempts to contact Sarah at the Lullaby Project with no success. The [[Jonas Conference Call|conference call]] with Jonas takes place. Later, Daniel, Emma and Jonas play a [[Emma's Choice|game show.]]

:'''December 14th''' - Sarah posts an alarming [[Free Love|video]] in which she claims to have heard her "Eternal Song"

:'''December 15th''' - Jonas and Dr. Hart take Emma underground when they realize that they are being [[Corporate Thugs Are Stalking Us|stalked]] by corporate thugs.

:'''December 17th''' - [[Jennie]] makes her first [[Procreating on Peyote|blog]] where she tells us about a rock she found and brings about more concern that Sarah is becoming part of the HoO.

:'''December 18th''' - Daniel posts a [[Tired of B*tches|video]] telling us that he hates Mallory for cheating and just wants to talk to Sarah, begging Jennie to give him any information she might have on her whereabouts.

:'''December 19th''' - Jennie posts a [[Am I A Murderer?|video]] in which she tries to do outreach work for the Lullaby Project but is turned away by a woman who claims the Lullaby Project is a "curse" that has caused miscarriages in her family.

:'''December 21st''' - Jonas [[Spies In Our Midst|tells us]] that he believes there is a spy among us who told Virgil the code for the [[Jonas Conference Call|conference call]] and warning everyone to be careful. On the same day, Emma, against Jonas's wishes, posts a [[A Girl Alone|video]] telling us she is in yet another undisclosed location and that her parents have put out an APB on her.

:'''December 22nd''' - Jonas and Dr. Hart go to meet with a reporter when Verdus finds them and [[They Shot Him!|open fire]], shooting Dr. Hart.

:'''December 25th''' - Jonas posts a [[Killed By Big Pharma|video]] telling us that Dr. Hart may have been killed and showing us the meeting he had with the reporter they were supposed to meet the day they were shot at.

:'''December 26th''' - Sarah posts another [[Share My Sleeping Bag|worrisome video]] where she tries to explain her feelings and emotions about what has been going on with her lately.

==2008==
===January===
:'''January 2nd''' - In an irc chat, Sarah announces she will be performing some form of her "evolution" on January 4th

:'''January 3rd''' - Emma posts a [[Brainwashed In Chat|video]] telling us they are all headed to Mexico to try and save Sarah. On the same day Mallory tells us that Professor DelMundo is now [[Being Stalked|stalking]] her and that she doesn't feel safe in her home.

:'''January 4th''' - Daniel, Jonas, and Emma meet Jennie in Mexico and [[Party Crashers|save Sarah]] from the Hymn of One, Sarah is very upset and doesn't want to leave, but they take her by force.

:'''January 8th''' - After saving Sarah, TAAG decides to [[Splitting Up|split up]], Daniel taking Sarah back home, and Jonas and Emma staying in Mexico with Jennie to spy on Carl. On the same day, Daniel and Sarah get in a [[Bus-ted|fight]] on the way home.

:'''January 9th''' - Sarah posts a [[Can't Sleep... with Me|video]] where she can't sleep and seems to be reverting back to her old self.

:'''January 10th''' - Jonas and Jennie [[Cream or Sugar?|spy]] on Carl and Lucy. On the same day, Daniel [[The Kiss-Off|tells]] us and Mallory both in no uncertain terms that they are most assuredly over.

:'''January 11th''' - Daniel and Sarah [[Looking For A Date|infiltrate]] Verdus to get information, but with little success. On the same day, Jonas, Emma, and Jennie go to [[KIDNAPPED!|meet]] with Dr. Hart, but are ambushed by the Order and Emma is kidnapped.

:'''January 13th''' - Taylor posts a [[Watch Me Balance|video]] telling us she is no longer worried about Sarah, that she is getting a job and that she is becoming interested in [[Whatweird.com]] and [[Jack]].

:'''January 14th''' - Jennie [[Long Drive Home|lets us know]] that Jonas is alive and that she is bringing him home.

:'''January 15th''' - Daniel tells Jennie and Jonas to [[Stay Strong]].

:'''January 16th''' - Taylor talks more about [[Jack]] and tells Sarah to be careful.

:'''January 17th''' - Dr. Hart [[Girl Tied Up|explains]] that he had to kidnap Emma in order to save [[Gina]].

:'''January 18th''' - Jonas posts a [[Beer Bath|video]] in which he drunkenly regrets all of his mistakes.

:'''January 19th''' - Sarah and Daniel pay a [[Am I A Criminal?|visit]] to Ted McKinley's apartment. Daniel finds some documents from Verdus in the apartment.

:'''January 21st''' - After examining the documents, Daniel [[Lost & Found|reveals]] that Gina was never a patient in the Hart Study.

:'''January 22nd''' - Jonas [[Attracted to Danger|announces]] that he and Daniel will be at Ghiradelli Square the following day to meet with fans for help.

:'''January 23rd''' - Dr. Hart [[Her Body, Her Blood|confirms]] that Gina was not a patient, but born true trait positive and studied to be the control of the study.

:'''January 24th''' - Jonas [[Too Dangerous!|summarizes]] what transpired in Ghiradelli Square. Lucy followed them to the location, in which Jonas and Daniel fled to another location, leaving a cell phone with a memo, leading the fans to The Cannery. Again, the location changed, this time to Hyde Pier.

:'''January 25th''' - Daniel and Jonas [[Bloodlines: Part 1|break into William Porter's house]], meeting Virgil there. Virgil is ultimately shot and killed while TAAG make a narrow escape. Then TAAG [[Bloodlines: Part 2|find their way to a hospital]], where they find Emma, Dr. Hart and Gina. Jonas becomes upset when Daniel apparently leaves Emma behind but saves Gina. Soon after that, Jonas [[Bloodlines: Part 3|has entered the hospital]], against the advice of Daniel. He comes across a scene of Emma and an Elder performing The Ceremony. The Elder appears to die and Dr. Hart helps Emma to escape. Jonas and Emma [[She Lost A Lot Of Blood|escape]] from the hospital soon. [[Bloodlines: Part 4|Finally]], Dr. Hart reveals that Gina and Bree are sisters, originally from Russia, having been purchased by Verdus.

===February===

:'''February 11th''' - Daniel gives us an [[She Lost A Lot Of Blood|update]] showing that Emma was weakened from the Ceremony and why she chose to do the The Ceremony.

:'''February 12th''' - Jonas [[Up All Night|updates]] everyone on Emma's condition.

:'''February 13th''' - Daniel and Sarah [[4 Girls, 2 Guys|reveal]] that tensions have been high in the cabin, especially between Jennie and Jonas.

:'''February 14th''' - Everyone is perplexed at what Gina is [[Playing With Wood|building]]. During the video, Emma shows a staged Boggle board, which when decoded, led to a Craigslist listing where Emma sent her parents a message. This led to a chat between Emma and her parents later that night. Also on this date, Jennie posted a [[A Woman's World|video]] telling Jonas that he should let Emma make her own choices.

:'''February 15th''' - Emma posts a very emotional [[I Love You All|video]] in which she reveals a very tough decision she has made. She reveals her decision to go and be with her parents again.

:'''February 16th''' - Jonas is very [[Things Fall Apart|upset]] that Emma has left.

:'''February 19th''' - Jonas [[I Lost It|laments]] his inability to cope with Emma's leaving. On the same day Jennie and Sarah have their first [[Cat Fight!]]

:'''February 20th''' - [[Gina]] makes her first [[I've Never Done This Before|blog]] and she and Daniel get closer.

:'''February 21st''' - Jonas and Jennie get [[Hot Tubbing|intimate]]

:'''February 23rd''' - Daniel shows us the [[Hangover Hell|aftermath]] of the gangs partying, and Jonas finds out that Sarah has posted Gina's drawings on the forum. Daniel recognizes one of the drawings as Bree's adoptive mother.

:'''February 25th''' - Daniel [[Babe in the Woods|questions]] Gina about her portrait of Bree's mother, to which she replies "All I see is a face."

:'''February 27th''' - The gang is forced to [[Born to Run|relocate]] when they spot William Porter's [[Shadow]] trailing them in one of their latest videos.

:'''February 28th''' - Gina makes her second [[Drawing in Bed|blog]] contemplating her memories. She also finally tells us that Bree's mother's name was Elizabeth. On the same day, William Porter's Shadow posts a [[Coming For You|video]] full of puzzles and codes, telling TAAG that he is after them.

:'''February 29th''' - Sarah attempts some [[Spicing Things Up|humor]], and Gina goes missing.

===March===

:'''March 1st''' - Daniel and Jonas [[Looking for Gina|find]] Gina at Bree's old house, saying that she had been there as a child, on the way home with Gina, Daniel spots Lucy and the Shadow following them in a black SUV.

:'''March 3rd''' - Jonas talks about his [[Out of Control|feelings]] and tells us he and Daniel had gotten into a fight, and that, while they are still friends, he's not sure if they can stick together.

:'''March 4th''' - Jennie gets Gina ready and Gina [[She's Ready|announces]] that she will be in chat later that evening. Later, in the chat, TAAG discusses their next plan of action, amid much fighting.

:'''March 5th''' - Sarah [[Prey|tells]] us that Jennie and Jonas are going to take Gina to find Bree's mom, but that she and Daniel are staying behind, also, she said that a store clerk told her that the Shadow was looking for her and her friends.

:'''March 6th''' - Gina [[What Have I Done?|wonders]] if splitting up TAAG was the right thing to do.

:'''March 7th''' - Porter's Shadow is caught on film [[In the Bedroom|lurking]] in Jennie's bedroom, they then chase him out the door where is is apparently struck by a vehicle and killed.

:'''March 10th''' - TAAG has fun [[At the Beach]]!

:'''March 11th''' - Jennie [[Tangled Web|determines]] that Sarah will be the best canidate for getting them close to Carl.

:'''March 12th''' - Sarah finds a [[Spanish Princess|love letter]] from Carl and admits to sleeping with him while she was in Mexico.

:'''March 13th''' - Daniel and Jonas go on a [[Coffee and Donuts|stakeout]] stalking Carl..again.

:'''March 14th''' - Carl [[Mexican Mating Machine|shows up]] with roses and tells Sarah he's quit the HoO.

:'''March 17th''' - Jennie [[It's The Doing That Matters|ponders]] what her purpose is.

:'''March 18th''' - Sarah [[Hostage Crisis|considers]] a "romantic" deal from Carl.

:'''March 19th''' - TAAG [[Stock Options|finds]] that [[Elizabeth Avery]] may have more to do with [[Verdus]] than they thought.

:'''March 20th''' - Gina [[Through My Eyes|explains]] how she sees things.

:'''March 21st''' - Gina is [[Bree's Mom|abducted]] by Bree's mother.

:'''March 22nd''' - Gina is [[Girl, Returned|returned]] seemingly drugged and with a CD.

:'''March 25th''' - Daniel and Carl get into a [[Kick His A$S!!|fight]] about Sarah.

:'''March 27th''' - This disc Gina was given is [[Recovered Memory|revealed]] to be videos of Gina and Bree playing together as children.

:'''March 28th''' - Gina tells us she has decided to [[All I Ever Wanted|meet Bree's mom]]

:''' March 29th''' - Gina [[The Devil Speaks|meets]] Bree's mom and talks with her.

:'''March 31st''' - With new incentive, Daniel [[I'm On Fire|vows]] to avenge Bree's death

===April===
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:'''April 1st''' - Sarah [[Fries And A Shakedown|tries]] to get information from Carl.

:'''April 2nd''' - TAAG finds a mysterious [[A Stranger Calls|phone]] with a mysterious message on it.

:'''April 3rd''' - The code is [[Varsity Blues|cracked]] and Daniel gets jealous of Gina and Jonas's closeness.

User talk:Renegade/Portal:Lonelygirl15

2008-05-02T00:06:39Z

64.81.108.2:

''Issues currently being discussed:''
*Lack of indication that the character images are links. ([[#Solutions|Current Discussion]])
*Possible implementation of character rollover effect onto video images ([[#Solutions|Current Discussion]])
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==Comments==
:Well...it's ok. What I really like about the current one is the fact that it's really clean and attractive. This new one doesn't have enough contrast (too much blue) and has a lot of wide open spaces. Also, the rollover for the characters is really unattractive in my opinion. The old lgpedia format had more flair, like stars and flowers, but this new one seems to have only a filmstrip which is for the most part totally empty (only the right-most section being at all filled). And finally, I think the header is too big and flashy, not nearly as clean or "classy" as the old one. Sorry to the people who no doubt worked really hard on this, take my suggestions with a grain of salt, either of the two is fine with me but I really prefer the old one :/ [[User:Lumino]]

:I love this new version it sick [[User:OldOak7]]
:I think it looks great! [[User:nnnik]]
:I have no criticism at all. Maybe it's that I'm not good at this stuff, so I think it looks perfect. Either way LOVE IT!!!! Can't wait to see the finished product. --Greenie [[User:138.210.216.82|138.210.216.82]] 12:17, 10 April 2008 (CDT)
:I love this redesign! You do a nice job, Renegade!- [[User:AzukiLotus]]12 April 2008
::Ditto. This "living room" for the LGPedia "house" feels less like an information overload, and more like a "welcome! won't you come on in?" ;-) --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
:I don't know if we're still taking comments on the page, but just for the record, I like think it looks awesome. [[User:Elphielivesagain]]
:I think maybe the background needs another color than white. [[User:Krisser]]
:I love the new design and a dont find the character links hard to find now it has text over them [[User:Danielbeast24790]]
I really really really like the new design of the page, i say lets go for it!
:I think it looks great, but my problem with it is... to much blue! Spice it up a bit, guys. I also think you should make larger spaces between the character photos; too close together, it'll confuse new people. Other than that... it's awesome! {{unsigned|66.171.183.102}}
:I like it! I know there's a huge argument below about the character icons as links....so just to comment on that, I think that it's rather obvious that they're links. I mean, as soon as you roll over them it seems clear to me. I like the rollovers, as I find that they make this a lot more obvious, you know? But I'm not putting this down there in the argument, because it's getting awfully personal. :P I think the design's cute and attractive. Good job! I hope it works out. [[User:DreamHaze|DreamHaze]] 19:00, 29 April 2008 (CDT)

==Suggestions==
===Shiori's happy nitpicks===
#The contrast on the vid template is still too low. Can we crank it up or something? The "no image available" image is especially making it look jarring with the low contrast.
##Playing around in Photoshop, #9FC6F0 looks nice for the bars.
##Could you make the image background the darker color? I liked that... (Speaking of the image, tone down the "no image available" one; it's crazy dark.)
#Looks squished. Make layout width:100%, pwease.
#I don't even know if this is even possible, but I'll throw it out there anyway. When the layout is changed to 100% width, and then I make my browser window smaller, the character images eat up the side nav. If you could, fix it on the left and maybe set the width in between the images to a variable width so they'd stretch across the whole top bar?

Looks ''really'' good, Ren! - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 14:31, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

:#I ''can'' play around with the colors, but let's first hear other opinions. And the "no image available" one was actually made for the previous proposal, I just uploaded it 'cause it's the default filename if no image was set. I'll upload a new one once we know which color we go with.
:#It's designed for 1024px width; can't make it wider without some more photoshop love. So let's hear what others say, first.
:#Given that the character icons should stay away from the dark blue part, if possible, I'd be opposed to that. But then again, I don't know what exactly you did and didn't do to achieve width: 100%, so I can't even reproduce the problem.
:More opinions, anyone?
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:00, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

::I think the only real thing that's bugged me on the design is the fact currently all images (whether character or video) are on the right hand side of the page. Previous versions always had some on both sides. Now, I know you don't want the characters anywhere near the dark blue of the banner, and I agree with you there Ren, so I don't even want to imagine how much it would take to test different (and I'm not suggesting the whole thing get worked over), but I wanted to point it out and see if anyone else noticed this as well. Plus, I finally had some time in this busy semester to gather some opinions for this discussion. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:02, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

===Character Row===
What happens if, at some point, we need to have more or less character icons? Does this require an entire redo in photoshop? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:36, 27 March 2008 (CDT)
:The "edit character row" link is there for a reason, Z ;) [[User:Renegade/Portal:Lonelygirl15/Character Row]]
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:21, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

::Right, but what if we add a character, doesn't that throw the width of the character row off? Based on the width of the header? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:14, 27 March 2008 (CDT)

:::Well, depending on how you modify the row, it shrinks or grows...?
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:39, 28 March 2008 (CDT)

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===Vid Template/Image Color(s)===
<div style="padding:1ex 1em; border:#aaa 1px solid; background-color:#ECFCF4">
:<font color=red>'''Resolved: Solution was to keep darker colors.'''</font>
:''Images have been removed during the archiving.''
We're basically agreeing that the colors look good in the vid template, but Ren and I are argue-discussing whether the darker color should be used for the image border or not. So please decide whether the top or bottom version looks better: [image]
- [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:34, 30 March 2008 (CDT)

:I like the bottom one better.
::--[[User:TimiN|TimiN]] 19:45, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::I have created an actual (not fabricated :P) comparison:
::[image]
::I agree that, put next to each other like this, the darker scheme looks slightly better; but keep in mind that, on the portal, the news are placed next to a giant, dark box, which generates a much different contrast:
::[image]
::And, though I agree the difference is marginal, and the darker scheme doesn't look ''bad'', I do think, placed against the dark box, the lighter scheme works slightly better.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:36, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::My does not think the lighter version is better. :p (When taken from a full-page standpoint, the difference is almost unnoticeable. Meh. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:44, 31 March 2008 (CDT)
</div>

===Character Icons===
One problem I have with the design now is that it is not clear that you can click on the individual character icons to view the main characters' pages. The icons simply look like part of the design at present. Perhaps putting the names back under the icons will help people understand that they can click those... or does anyone else have any ideas? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:52, 30 March 2008 (CDT)

:You get the normal link hand icon over them, so those not familiar with mediawiki in general should get it by instinct. And even if they don't, [[Characters]] is the first link in the first content box. In a worst case scenario, a confused person just takes one click longer.
:Not to mention that the names of the current character boxes don't look like links either. I click them because I know from experience they are links, not because it's actually obvious.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:40, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::The hand icon appears over every image, so the fact that they appear on the icons does not provide any real clue to the fact that the images actually take you to the characters' pages. The whole point of putting the icons on the front page like that is to give people an easy way to familiarize themselves with the characters. People won't just automatically click the [[Characters]] link. That's like saying we only need to put the stills from each new video, because people will click on them ''knowing'' they can get to the video transcript pages based on the fact that the hand icon is there... and if not, they'll be able to click the "List of Videos" link on the sidebar, which takes them to the list of videos anyways, so what's the point of listing the videos on the portal page anyways? The point is ease of access, which is why the character icons are there in the first place as well.

::And I think there is a big difference between the character icon placement you proposed and the one we have now. Currently, they are in a separate column and each icon has a box with the name of the character underneath. It is much more obvious that you can click those images and/or the links to learn more about the characters than it is on your proposal, where there is no text and the images just look like part of the header design. I think it's important that people know to click these links, so we should find a way to make it obvious that they can. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:46, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::Random idea: Would overlaying a link-indicating icon or something work? I can't imagine it looking right with text, which is kind of a problem... - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 18:49, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::I added alt text, I think that helps a little. Not sure it solves the problem entirely though... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:55, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::Hence why I said "those not familiar with mediawiki in general should get it by instinct". Those who are new to LGPedia should instinctively react to the cursor change, those who are familiar with LGPedia also know that the portal icons can be clicked.
:::Of course largely labeling them as links would make it clearer, but a caption box like on the current portal will definitely not work. An overlay with the name ''might'' work. But so far, you're the only one mentioning it, so let's hear what others say before we change the design in such a drastic way.
:::In addition, your analogy is wrong - the latest videos are changing almost daily and are on the front page as ''news'', not as permanent content. We are not just providing a link, we are reporting the latest video - and that requires a date at least. In addition, a random still is by far not as clear as a frontal face shot. Some shot of the general LA area, or of Daniel in the rented house, could fit dozens of episodes, so the link wouldn't be clear without text. The List of Videos is also not a replacement, because it shows neither a date or posting, nor a description, nor a viewing link.
:::A link to Daniel's page on Characters ''is'' the same as a link to Daniel's page on the front page.
:::A link with poster on List of Videos is ''not'' the same as a full news post with posting date and watch links.
:::You cannot compare news posts that inform users of the latest information of a video to a static link.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:59, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::::Okay, but how is a person supposed to differentiate between the hand icon that comes over the images for the icons and the hand icon that comes over the image for, say, the graphic that says "Lonelygirl15 portal." That image doesn't take them anywhere of relevance, so why should people assume that the icons, which appear to be a part of the larger image, take them anywhere?
::::I agree with you on why we need the whole video template. But I am unsure why this is relevant. Are you trying to argue that the icons shouldn't be there in the first place because they do not report the news? Could you please clarify this?
::::And I completely disagree that a link to Daniel's page on Characters is the same as the link to Daniel's page on the front page. The Characters page contains an image, a clearly identifiable link, and a brief description of the character. The icon on the front page does contain not anything but an image link. And really, on the Characters page, people ''aren't'' supposed to be clicking the image to get to the page (otherwise all of the characters would need images, which most of them do ''not'' have), but the images redirect there as a "just in case."
::::They are not equal. They are different. The icons are on the front page because providing easy links to the main characters is important. We need to find a way to make sure they are emphasized, otherwise they might as well not be there. And unless this is what you are suggesting (in which case we'd need to have an entirely different discussion here), we need to make sure people know they are there and will take them to the content they will, in fact, take them to. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:50, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::::Well, I for one would prefer names next to the characters. Now, I think Ren said that would be difficult code-wise (I wouldn't know any better, as that's not my expertise) but I still would lean toward names with the characters if only for new visitors to attach names to the faces they see. And while I'm sure that there won't be so much white space on the Portal -- due to the fact this is merely a sandbox and such -- I do want to express that I'm not a fan of so much blank, empty space (i imagine there's something in the works, right Ren?). Again, maybe it's just me, but those are my thoughts. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:29, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::::::This looks '''awesome''', but I agree with Pheon about the names. I as well am not an expert at coding, but how impossible would it be for it to only say the name when you roll over it? I don't know if that's completely out of the question but I figured I'd throw it out there. Please don't laugh me to scorn! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:37, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::::::To take it a step further, (I'm pretty sure it's not possible in the Pedia, so you can just consider it rambling) we could do rollover images to let you know the character's name... I think the best idea would be an alt tag with just the character name and some superimposed image letting you know it's a link. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:43, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::::::I can easily code a div that says "Click here for this Character's page - Daniel" or something when you hover over Daniel's pic. If it works in ''Internet Explorer'', however, depends on if the programmers were drunk one day and actually wrote standards compliant code.
::::::You misunderstood me, pheon. Code-wise, it'd be easy to write. But if you add captions to these images, the design is destroyed. Period.
::::::As for the white-space, it's currently fixed width optimized for a 1024x768 resolution. As noted above, I can try creating a variable width version, but that requires a lot more work on the image. However, given that more whitespace is generally regarded as "lighter" and "easier to grasp" by users, and I don't see anything lacking space, I honestly don't quite see the problem. The news boxes would not be smaller anyway - if anything, they would be just as high, but longer, with the descriptions only filling one line, and the content descriptions would all be in one line.
:::::You missed my point, Z. All I was doing was showing how your analogy of comparing the character icons to the news was invalid. I was not making any statements about the validity of any content item on any page.
:::::And btw, the header can easily be turned into a link to the portal to de-confuse the users, or overlayed by an empty div to de-linkify it. Or used as a CSS background image. Or whatever. What matters is not that the header is a link, but that the character icons are links.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:07, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

::::::I said it before, and I'll say it again. Variable width FTW. Make it so! (If you can) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:09, 31 March 2008 (CDT)

:::::::The headers are not links anymore and the layout is variable width now.
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 01:08, 2 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::::Just added charbox template, generating a special overlay effect on FF and IE 7 and upwards, and also changing the link to the character page directly, not to the image page. (Thus making very obvious that this image is a link to a character, not to an image page.)
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:48, 5 April 2008 (CDT)

:Looks perfect! I love the rollover names, that's awesome! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 18:16, 11 April 2008 (CDT)

I really like the rollover names too, and I definitely think it helps, but I don't think it solves the problem entirely. We really need a clear indication that these are links. I think that part of the thing here is that the people who are commenting are people who are familiar with the current layout, and already know that these images should be links... but any new viewers that LGPedia draws in could very easily be confused by the proposed setup. Perhaps something like.. a little arrow that says "Click here to learn more about these characters"... or something to that effect should be considered? I'm not sure how to best do this, as obviously I want to keep it as aesthetically pleasing as possible, but I also think functionality and navigability for new users is really important and something we should all keep in mind. Other than that, I really like this design and am on board with going forward with it! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:30, 11 April 2008 (CDT)
:Has there been any additional thought given to how to solve this issue? Like I said, as soon as we can fix this, I am totally on board with making this design live... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:47, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
:A suggestion from the person who doesn't really know anything (so please don't take him seriously because this would probably really hard to do) but what if we put "Characters:" to the left of the images? Now the thing that would probably be impossible to do on a wiki: I think it might be cool if we could put buttons to the left and right of the images that when you roll over them, they scroll. This way if there are any additional main characters, we can add them in, and people can just scroll through the list. Yet again, I know nothing so don't yell at me for my incompetence, just an idea. [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:51, 11 April 2008 (CDT)

===Video List===
I love the design, but I wanted to point out that the video list column extends far beyond the other one. Maybe instead of four video boxes we could have three? Just a thought. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:25, 19 April 2008 (EST)
:I agree, because it's so long, it leaves such a gap at the bottom-left side (me no fan of huge-white spaces). Three video boxes could work, or maybe even making the section titles (i.e. "Lonelygirl15 Universe," "Behing the Scenes," "Other Series & Content") could be bigger? Just throwing out thoughts . . . --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 19:51, 20 April 2008 (CDT)
::Another option could be to just remove the "recent videos" list and just have the link to the complete video list. What good do those additional five videos do, anyway? (I was also trying to innovate a bottom bar for the most recent five videos, but that would probably look weird.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:07, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

:::I have no idea what you guys talking about. When re-sized to 1024, the columns are almost equal, when wide on 1280, only the recent videos peek over. I don't see anything extending "far beyond". Screenshots? Arrows?
:::And, most importantly, are those showstoppers for you?
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:22, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
::::In my post I'm refering to the "Recent Videos" list. While its not major, I'm just not a fan of such a huge amount of white space. That said, I'm cool with Shiori's idea of just dropping the list all together, leaving just the link to the complete video list. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 17:30, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::Are you on a notebook?
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 21:11, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::Bah, since even *if* you count this as a design problem (which I, personally, don't), it still looks better than the current layout, I'll go forward with the move unless there are objections within 21 minutes. If the list is a problem later, we can put it in a collapsed, expandable div/table.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:09, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

==Launch==
===Problems===
We are going forward with this? I do not see any resolution on the character icon issue...? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:23, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
:The resolution is, I had a notice '''directly on the portal''' for the past [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:Lonelygirl15&diff=119618&oldid=119583 eleven days] (getting very direct [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:Lonelygirl15&diff=122215&oldid=122136 two days ago]) telling people to note objections and criticism. You are ''still'' the only one who complains about the character icons. In the [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARenegade%2FPortal%3ALonelygirl15&diff=122724&oldid=119695 entire time], people mostly said they liked the design. I had one suggestion to totally change the background color, which was unsigned and not taken serious by ''anyone'' (and would look like crap), one suggestion to put "Characters:" next to the characters box, which, permanently, would destroy the layout, and on hover would be the same time of fix as now, and these remarks about the video list length now, which a) is minor, and can be fixed later, b) I can't even reproduce/understand in the first place, and didn't come up in the month before, so it's likely a taste question anyway, and c) one column has to be longer anyway. Period. It's forced by the way I coded this. Not to mention I already proposed a fix above (collapsed expandable div). So we have one non-serious, anonymous suggestion, one suggestion that only seeks to please you, not specifically mentions the poster actually dislikes the current state, and this minor taste issue today. In the same time, we got three "this looks great!" type of answers, and no one really objects. FH14 and Pheon don't really object - they just don't like the length of a certain content item. Neither do ''you'' really object to the design as a whole, you'd just like to put giant arrows on the character icons.

:Nobody really objects to this redesign, after I made it as public as possible on the pedia, and there was enough time to discuss it. Even with the minor nitpicks people still have, it's way better than the current version. You can argue "OMG THE LINKS ARE INVISIBLE!" all you want, even if they are, the users are not retarded - if they really want to know about the characters, they can click "Characters" until we found a solution for the icons. So yes, I'm moving forward with this ''now''.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 23:03, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

Renegade, I really did not want to do this, but since when do you have the authority to overrule admins... muchless to disrespect me... or ANY member of this wiki, for that matter? I am reverting your edits until a ''calm'' and ''rational'' '''consensus''' can be reached on this issue. And please take this as your warning, if the attitude displayed in these posts continues, there ''will'' be consequences. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:29, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

:I did not realize that this was this close to going live, and I was surprised to see it happen. Frankly, although most people did agree that the new design looks good, the portal is a ''very'' highly viewed page, so I think we need to be absolutely sure we're ready before we make such a change. And in this case I think that means admin backing as well. The old portal works for now, and since there is a dispute we're going to leave it at that until a resolution is reached. And please, ''please'', ''PLEASE'', '''keep things civil'''. Respect is the name of the game here. Just keep that in mind. Kthx.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 00:40, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

:Once more, Zoey fucks over community discussion and consensus. Surprise! How many weeks this time until you can be arsed to go on with this? Three? Four? Five? Never?
:Let's be honest here: You're just pissed off because I didn't give you the opportunity to shoot it down in silence. I dared to post it out in the open, so you couldn't just say "no" without reasoning in the shadows. Now you're fucked because your made up reasoning finds no support, so you just claim there is no consensus, even though there was really no objection to the current design, and even though the note was ''on the fucking portal'' for almost two weeks.
:I am sick of this shit. '''If you want to dictate this redesign away, do it already.''' But stop making up bullshit reasons. Our users are not retarded. They ''can'' click "Characters" for character information if they don't realize the icons are links. And there is no need for more discussion for a consensus that needs to be reached, because everybody already likes the design, ''you'' just think our users are too stupid to find character information. In fact, I have been working ''together'' with the community for weeks to create the current state, and the progress and process is very visible above. The only thing standing in the way of this redesign is ''you''. Don't claim anything else.

:And for the record, no matter what you may try to construct here in order to justify your dictatorship - I did ''not'' overrule any administrative decision. You did ''not'' tell me to stop, even though it ''clearly'' said I was going to do it 29 minutes later. Had you wanted me to stop, a simple "stop!" would've have been enough. '''Do not lie and pretend there was an order not to do this.''' There was a clear favor of the redesign over the current design in the community, the redesign works and has been tested in both browsers, and there was no administrative overrule.
:I behaved perfectly within the policies and traditions of this encyclopedia. I just happened to do something ''you personally'' don't like.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 01:07, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

::Okay, really, give it a rest. I don't care about your personal feelings about Zoey or whatever. You can disagree with Zoey all you want, but there's absolutely no reason to attack her. And it's not just because she's the head admin; you shouldn't talk like that to ''anyone'' on the pedia. So here's what I suggest: Everyone just calm down, take a break, and come back later when you're capable of being respectful and not just vindictive. The portal we have right now has lasted this long--there's no reason why it has to be changed very soon, so let's try to work this out first. But please, only in a respectful manner.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 01:37, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

:::Ren, before I say anything else . . . heed Jon's word of advice. Even if we're all adults here, there's simply no need to bring that kind of language and attitude here. You're angry and peeved, we get it. We don't need to read what could be very well be considered a verbal attack. Seriously Ren, keep it civil -- not only for respect of your fellow LGPedians, but also for the sake of not reducing another discussion into a shouting match.

:::Back to the discussion, while there have been about ten different posters on this discussion page, that just not a good consensus. Granted, I know we'd never get every user to give their opinion and I ''know'' you gave them "ample" time to even give an opinion, but like Jon said the Portals are perhaps the most frequent viewed of pages . . . . and we're not even talking about a small change to the Portal like pattern of the character boxes or design of the video column, this is on the WHOLE portal, man. And yes, Admins don't need to rubberstamp yes or no to every decision, but we do have the final judgement whether or not we beleive a proper consensus has been reached. And, IMHO, the lack of discussion here (myself included) just shows such a consensus isn't there and that even some of the more die-hard LGPedians haven't had a chance to properly assess the redesign. Honestly, '''would''' waiting a little longer for some actual discussion ''be so bad?'' We do have lives outside of this Pedia, you know. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:00, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

::::And you actually think confirming that the portal is one of the most viewed pages through a ''second'' admin is helping?
::::All you're doing is confirming that there was a notice for almost two weeks on the probably most-viewed page of this encyclopedia. All you're doing is confirming that this was ''not'' a surprising move at all, and that this discussion was as public as it gets. It's ridiculous to pretend there'd be a sudden influx of new discussion participants if we waited longer.
::::The only way to make this discussion more public is to put the notice in 500% font size, bold and red.
::::If you wanna cower in fear of Zoey's wrath, please, do so. I don't blame you. But everybody knows the discussion itself if not going to change. Maybe over a month, we'll get a new nitpick or a new comment, but nothing's going to change. This discussion has discussed everything there was to discussed. The design was adapted again and again and again to fit the community's needs. There was an open discussion from the start, then the participate link, then the general notice on the portal, then the specific notice on the portal, then the direct statement on here.
::::Let me reiterate that: The portal itself said the redesign was coming almost two weeks, and the portal itself said, for two days, it was coming on monday. It is fucking ridiculous you three are behaving like this was a great surprise to any of you.
::::The only reason this is halted is because Zoey is not getting what she wants, and she has the badge to force her will. It's as simple as that.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 02:16, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::Ren, Jonpro seriously JUST asked that, ''"Everyone just calm down, take a break, and come back later when you're capable of being respectful and not just vindictive."'' Despite this, you have continued to personally attack Zoey. Enough man, this just isn't the place for that. Now, posting a civil response is fine, but you have '''no''' reason to just continue attacking Zoey. As it stands, the three of us don't feel the redesign is necessarily ready to become live, nor do we feel that there's any reason why it has to become live THIS very second. The date it was "planned" to go live was chosen I imagine for efficiency's sake, but it's not like we have a deadline like we did when the KM Portal was first being created.
:::::But once again, before you respond please take the time to take a deep breath. We really don't need another shouting match here. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:41, 22 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::::I have been following the design discussion for some time and not felt the need to comment because I pretty much felt Zoey's comments on that thread said it all. I think the design is quite nice and thanks to Ren for all the hard work. However as pointed out it can be just a little better if we can figure out how to make it clearer that the pictures are icons. Yes, I get the point that it has never been totally clear even with the old design. However this is the perfect opportunity for us to get it right. I am a Mac user and as such i strongly believe that good design should be inherently intuitive to the user. The film strip looks nice and the roll overs were a good first step but I cannot help but feel we are missing one small adjustment to the design that will solve the dilemma once and for all. Now is the time to do that and I would be more than happy to try out designs or contribute in any way to finding a really great solution. I fear that if we take the design live now the importance of this design decision will just be lost and may never reach that final awesome end point that will do the design justice.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 05:31, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

::::::Pheon, the only thing that really stands out to me in your reply is that you don't deny at all that the notice was very visible, and that it was very visible Monday was planned. Yet none of you complained. So either you ''are'' lying, and you knew full well when it was planned to go live with this, or you're not lying, which means the three administrators of this pedia failed to watch the most-viewed page on it for two to three days - iow, they failed to do their job. Majorly.
::::::There is no ground for you to pretend this is oh-so-surprising. In fact, ''on this very page'' it is documented that you were here on April 20th, whereas I added the "it's happening Monday" notice on the 19th. Yet, there was no "OMG STOP!!!" from you.
::::::Unless you're blind or illiterate, it was very fucking obvious when I was going to do this. Yet, you guys are trying to build this up as a kind of sneak attack where I tried to circumvent the decision-makers. Not gonna happen. If you want to shoot this down, fine. Do it. But I will not let you make up bullshit to justify it.
:::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:41, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::::I for not did not see the [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:Lonelygirl15&diff=prev&oldid=122215 notice] that the design was going to go live on Monday, and it's not fair to call me either "blind or illiterate" because of that. You posted it in ''one'' place, on the portal, and made no mention of it here until ''21 minutes'' beforehand. And frankly, I've been pretty busy these last few days, and even if I happened to see the edit in Recent Changes, I probably assumed it was just an update for a new video, as there was no edit summary. And in the few times I likely viewed the portal, I didn't think to look closely at the notice to see that it had changed to indicate a date when the design would go live. In other words, it wasn't as obvious as you make it out to be, and there's no reason to yell at us for missing it. Having said that, you still ''did'' indicate that you were going to make the change a few days beforehand, and there was no ''direct'' objection (although I'd consider Zoey's [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARenegade%2FPortal%3ALonelygirl15&diff=122724&oldid=122722 edit] an indirect objection), so you did follow procedure for the most part. However, that does not at all justify your disrespectful comments toward any of us, and your refusal to stop making them isn't helping your case.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:04, 22 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::::::I also missed the notice on the main page and I use LGPedia quite a bit. I think that just goes to show that our eyes (or optical sensors in my case) are creatures of habit and that goes to why design is so very important. I was following the discussion thread and from what I saw the design issue in question had not been resolved and I think thats what we need to get back to.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:59, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

===Solutions===
(''Ignoring the arguing'') Well, I might as well propose a possible solution to the character box problem. Maybe next to Bree's icon there could be a sideways strip of text that says "Characters" something like:

{|cellspacing="0" align="center" style="background-color: transparent;"
|align="center" style="background:#1E2A63; border: 1px solid #1E2A63;width:100px"|'''{{link|link=Characters|text=Characters|color=#ABB8DB}}'''
|}

But, again, on it's side at the end of the row (I'm not exactly sure what the names of the colors used are, so I just used these). --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 08:50, 23 April 2008 (EST)

::or we could add something to an extra icon in the film strip row that would just make it clear the icons are buttoms but still keeping the slick design.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 07:54, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

:::Making my own solution, as it seems graphical options might still be in the realm of confusing, I added some text above the character images explaining that they are, in fact, links. It also doesn't kill the layout all that much, so (assuming it can be considered to do the job), everyone should be happy. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:06, 23 April 2008 (CDT)
::::I like the nice (very small) text that you added. I think it fixes the problem without killing the layout. --Greenie [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 12:19, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

::I really like the page! --Elphielives

:: On my browser the text "Click on the character's image to go to their page." is burried in the blue so it is not very visible. Try adding it to the perforation below the characters since film actually does have text in the perforation.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 22:16, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

I really, really feel that the pictures next to each video should have the same rollover effect that the character icons do. So...you would roll over the picture, and the black filter and video title would be on the picture. It just kinda throws me off-center when the pictures aren't standard. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 18:33, 23 April 2008 (EST)
:Actually, I was wondering: now that the text is there, do we even need the rollovers? What does everyone else think? Also, mm, could you post a screenshot or something? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 08:59, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::I agreed with Phisho. Oh, and Shiori, I LIKE the rollovers. I think they look really good! --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 11:36, 24 April 2008 (CST)
:::I also like the rollovers and think that Phisho's idea is good. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:51, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::The roll overs are good. The only problem with just roll overs is that you have to roll over the icon to see them. What we are trying to do is emphasize the fact that the icons are links when the page opens. One option, as I pointed out earlier would be to add an extra icon before the characters. (I played around with the KM portal and this shows where it could be done. [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Modelmotion/exp]. Now right now it is just a black box, but the idea would be to have something that blended in with the film strip but convey that the icons to the right are links that should be clicked. The more subtly that can be done and the more it fits in with the design the better. Perhap an arrow of some kind embossed in the background color. I don't know but it is intended as food for thought.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 18:47, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:::To be honest, I like the way that was decided on a while ago (having the text that says "Click on the character's image to go to their page." above the images) a lot more than that black box. I just feel that we should make the text slightly bigger. I definitely think that that would get the point across. There's not much more we can do, right?

:::Don't get me wrong, I feel that if the black box is spiced up a little bit more, it could be beautiful, but it looks great now, and I'm not sure anyone needs to do unnecessary work, aye? --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 20:03, 24 April 2008 (EST)

:::As I said before i have two concerns with the "Click on the character's image to go to their page". While it is direct it is slightly buried in the design and would be easy to miss. Also as currently positioned the words actually blend into the solid blue in my browser. Since there are other options I think it is worth considering them. Direct designs can get the job done but they are not always the ones that lead to the best interface. To the extent possible a design should be visually intuitive and the right use of visual clues can often be the best solution.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:33, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
::::Absolutely, it's hard to see right now. I suggest that we move it to the left of the character icons, increase the font size, and make it black and perhaps bold. It's direct, which is good, and it's hard to miss, which is great. It's also...easy, which is wonderful. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 20:42, 24 April 2008 (EST)

::I think that one of Ren's original concerns was that might affect the esthetic of the design and that is important. These are difficult factors to balance.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:59, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

::::Which is a problem in of itself... Ren and I talked over a link icon overlay originally, but that would lead to the problem of, not only looking intrusive, but people ''still'' wouldn't know what it's telling them. The "characters" label, while a nice idea, still leads to the same problem. I don't know, as far as I can see, all of this would still need to be used in conjunction with a secondary solution.
::::I think we might have to just pick a solution and recognize that it's not going to satisfy everyone. The characters link is right there, anyway, for the users who, despite a gigantic bump on the noggin, still can't notice that the images are links. (I've also mulled over the idea of drop shadows and character labels, both of which end up looking horrible and not really helping any more than the solutions already proposed.
::::As for the text that's there currently, I can make it the standard size easily if people think it will help. Bold and black will definitely be negatively affecting the design, as far as I can see, though. And, mm, I shortened the sentence it was using so that ''should'' solve the overlap issue you're getting. (If not, please post a screenshot or something. I've checked the code in Firefox, IE, and Safari and it works for me in each, so I'll be very confused.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:02, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
:::::Hmmm . . . I like the rollovers as they include the names for each of the characters, so I would keep them even with the new description at the top of the the "filmstrip." As for the color of the text, maybe not black, but something darker, sure (maybe the shade of blue in the Portal banner as opposed to the blue in the filmstrip). --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:49, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

::I tried to take the "icon" solution a step further.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Modelmotion/exp] Clearly this is not intended to be a final solution but just a very rough indication of where it could go if someone could develop the right icon.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 04:46, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

:::I can easily make a "characters" icon or something for the bar there (I think it would really need to say that, and not just on a rollover in order to be effective), but I'm not sure it's necessary. If enough people ask for one, I'll make one. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 05:44, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
::Yea, the rollover is just there because it was in Rens code. I was thinking the word Characters could be written vertically (in a matching color) and the icon be a slimmer strip but with an embossed arrow pointing to the right to give it a sense of movement. Again the idea is to draw the eye to the film strip in a way that creates the impression they are active links. Thats how I think intuitive design should work. --[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 06:26, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

:::Okay, is anyone up for making said icon to see how it looks, or do people think it's unnecessary? Once we have this worked out, I think we'll be pretty much ready to go live.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 03:05, 29 April 2008 (CDT)

::::I think it's unnecessary. I do, however, think that we should add the rollover effect to the vid list pictures. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 07:13, 29 April 2008 (EST)

:::::The problem with that is that the video images don't actually link to the video pages. So, adding the rollover effect to them will make them look like they do and only confuse people more. And we've considered having the images redirect to the video pages, but that seems to create more problems than it solves. And besides, the title of the video is right there anyway to be clicked on, so it's not like it's missing information like with the character names.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 07:02, 29 April 2008 (CDT)

::::::I agree with Jon. Stylistically, having a set of images that are rollovers and a set that isnt looks funny (which is why I was wondering if they were even necessary), but having rollovers over there could be potentially more confusing than not. How often do people roll over the video images anyway? I basically ignore them as it stands now... - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 08:19, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
::::::::Ok, I also think that Jons right about the vid images and change my vote about that, however, I think that it's pretty obvious the character pages are rollovers. My friend who had never seen either portal said that she would be able to figure out that they're rollovers and also pointed out that there are no instructions on the current portal to click on the characters image. Her suggestion was to make the pictures a little further apart and to have a box that says "characters" (maybe diagonally but an obvious link) linking to the [[Characters]] page which would lead you to figure out the others are also links. Another thought I just had would be to put the characters name to the left of their picture (our left) vertically, maybe in white(?) My biggest complaint is I hate where it says "click on the characters picture.." because I think it looks sloppy. Just throwing ideas out there, really. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:52, 29 April 2008 (CDT)

:::::::::::Just adding my 2 cents in (from the perspective of someone who loves the lgpedia but doesn't edit). I don't like the "click in characters picture..." as I thinks its obvious that you would do so, it seems kind of patronising. It also looks out of place and doesn't seem to match the rest of the portal. Oh, and I have no idea where to say this so I'll just put it here: Thanks heaps for all the hard work you all do on the lgpedia! [[User:Charlie_star|Charlie_star]] 21:07, 30 April (NZ time)

:::I will try and make an icon when i have time. We have already been over the fact that the currently live page was not perfect and the idea is to solve that problem with the new page (not repeat it).--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 18:42, 30 April 2008 (CDT)

[[Image:Text overlap.jpg]] This shows the text overlap with the solid blue.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 18:07, 30 April 2008 (CDT)

:Yah, that's ugly. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 18:47, 30 April 2008 (CDT)
::mm, what resolution are you on? I could only get it to do that at something less than 1024x768 (on OSX, since I know that's what you're on). And if you're on a resolution below that, the whole design should like a little odd, to be honest. If it's more than that, I'm just plain confused. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 09:33, 1 May 2008 (CDT)

:::If someone could make an icon, that'd be great, since I think it would look less tacky than the text, although I suppose that will do if we can't get a good icon. I'm not exactly a design person myself, but I know some of you could make something that would look really good. So, thanks in advance guys!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:41, 1 May 2008 (CDT)

::::I made one (it's not the greatest in the world, it's more just a mockup), but I still don't think it's making the icons any more intuitive... - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:55, 1 May 2008 (CDT)

:::::That's what I get for not looking at the page before I post :p. And I think it has potential. What do others think?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:11, 1 May 2008 (CDT)
:::::I agree, that looks way better, definitely on the right track! [[User:64.81.108.2|64.81.108.2]] 19:06, 1 May 2008 (CDT)

Talk:Splitting Up

2008-01-08T22:50:30Z

64.81.108.2:

this is probably going to end up badly. it always does. - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]] jan 8
:My thoughts exactly [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:50, 8 January 2008 (CST)

User:Nancypants

2007-12-15T04:24:03Z

64.81.108.2:

=='''Welcome!'''==
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Hi, this is my user page, stay a while and look at my hilarious [[Category talk:User templates|userboxes!]] I made a few of them myself! If you look at [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]] as much as I do, you've probably noticed I'm on there a lot. You're probably thinking I have nothing better to do. Well, if you're thinking that, you're right. I'm at work while I do this and I've got a lot of time on my hands. I enjoy editing the [[Breeniverse Timeline]], updating pages from the [[LGPedia:Ways To Help|Way to Help]] page, making pages for the new videos, reverting spam, and [[Template:Spambot|tagging Spambots.]] If you ever have a problem with anything I do on here, let me know in my [[User_Talk:Nancypants|Talk]] page and not this page, please! Hmm, anyway, on to my userboxes!

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Danielbeast Fan Club

2007-12-15T04:22:02Z

64.81.108.2: /* Current Members */

[[Image:DB3.JPG]]
== The Man of Our Dreams! ==

Welcome!

Hi Everybody!

Welcome to the [[Danielbeast]] Fan Club!

The only requirement for membership is to post something nice about Daniel in our fan club on the [[forum]]. [http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5036]

This page is a community page. Any member is free to post on this page, especially those with ideas to share for future projects!!

== Current Members ==

Marbella, Founder, President

CobertNationGirl, Vice President

Daydreamz

Lcaf

jc_gypsy7

krig

Ashley

deathstarpsycho

Jess4298

owned

betz28

mary

flowerpower

elliemae

Sarahboo!

Guest

turkeyfeather

Scrawnyfish

Claramata

pomegranate

whitetigress53

dwljk

MysticShadow724

Morgan

jaime

jenski18

mysilvertrumpet

Broken Kid

GoodGollyItsHolly

rosieiswatching

TessaRoo

heather

kiddo1221

kassiaL

Sami

SapereAudeo

imogene2004

Beckers

tayduh1987

pimp monkette

Killthesmiley

kellylen

MrsCop

lonelyfan13

licoricesniper

AniDonia

kayokosaeki

sthrnbelle

Mgz

Christie91

heyiknowsyou

Vintage_Angel

MintyBeast

ashes

michiev

PolkadotConfederation

LadyBugGirl

consideration

marlasinger

Lurker

Bolts

jonasrawks

satansgurl

sack36

aideen

xentis

longlostposter

watching_watchers

JustAnotherLonelyGirl

girlnextdoor

memimomerin

New voice of reason

[[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

Total member count: 75

== What We Love Most About Danielbeast ==
(Feel free to list your reasons!)

*I love his caring, compassionate personality. In other words, I like the way he L'cares! I adore his depth of character and true sense of loyalty and responsibility. I also like his butt.

[[Image:DBbutttiny.jpg]] [[Marbella]]

*I love the way he love wears his heart on his sleeve. Most of all, I love the way he sticks up for Bree, and is so loyal even after she broke his heart. Colbertnationgirl

*I love his cute little phrases, and ever-changing hair...and that smexy voice! longlostposter

*I love his lay back attitude, his willingness to talk things through, his nose. . . . . . . . .Hey! I like roman noses! Live with it!

*I love his ability to give people the benefit of the doubt and to talk ''before'' loosing his temper. I love his sweet nature and his laid-back attitude. I love that he reads comic books and can make fun of himself.

*I love his loyalty for his friends, his clever acting when Sarah wanted to destroy his relationship with Mallory and that he interacts with his friends from the net so much!;-)(By New voice of reason)

== Our Fave Scenes With "The Beast!" ==
(Feel free to post yours!)

*The Silent Treatment (Why? Because his acting was stellar and Bree was driving everybody NUTS back then!) -- [[Marbella]]

*For the Ladies and Miss Me. -- Colbertnationgirl

*The whole video "For the Ladies" is hilarious. I also love the heartbreaking look he gives Bree in "Snow Angels". "Grillz" is also one of my DB faves. --longlostposter

*Aside to camera (sotto voce), "I'm going to marry this girl." --sack36

*The spoof of Proving Science Wrong that Daniel did. =] -- watching_watchers

*Bedside Manner when he did the impression of P. Monkey. --anonymous

== Rogue's Gallery ==

[[image:LG0197Danielmirrored.jpg]]

== Past Projects ==

*{{youtube|5wcdNvsBWkM|The DanielBeast Fan Club Video}}

*DeathStarPsycho's Fan Poster!

*{{youtube|WMSkaCMNOsA|The Danielbeast screen shot project!}} [http://www.slide.com/r/l5x8z4Jw5j9YRKTN4dgZuyuyUT3WCH1z?view=original]

== Current Projects ==

*Getting 100 members as soon as possible!

== Future Project Ideas ==

*We are open to suggestions. Let's get creative!
[[Category:Character fan clubs]]

I think it would be cool to mail a big card around to those who are willing to give their address out, and have everyone sign, and then send it to Beastie at the creators address. Barring that, maybe an email forwarded around?

We could each log into an ecard spot on his birthday and each send him an ecard.

Get Your Freak On

2007-12-12T03:16:34Z

64.81.108.2:

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==Transcript==
'''Emma:''' (''Grabs a spoon off of the counter and uses it as a microphone''.) Dr. Calvin Hart. Genius or freak?

'''Dr. Hart:''' (''Laughs''.) Can't I be both?

'''Emma:''' (''Laughs''.) Well, you heard it here first, folks; this man is a genius-freak. So you saw on [[Germ Warfare Attack|Friday]] how he got us out of that [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals|Verdus Pharmaceutical]] lab, right? Five security guards - with guns - and this man gets us out with nothing else but one ounce of apple juice. See Jonas, take a lesson: no guns. Apple juice!

'''Dr. Hart:''' Shh! You have to let me finish.

'''Emma:''' (''Laughs''.) He's working. See, he doesn't like to be interrupted while he's genius-freaking.

(''Emma walks into the kitchen and places the camera on the counter. She gets out a glass, and then brings a tray of chocolate chip cookies over to the camera while smelling them. Fast-forward of Emma putting the cookies on a plate. The scene cuts to Emma carrying the plate with a glass of milk and the camera over to Dr. Hart''.)

'''Emma:''' Alright. (''Places the cookies next to Dr. Hart's laptop''.) Dr. Hart's gonna take a break now.

'''Dr. Hart:''' He is, is he?

'''Emma:''' Yeah, come one, I made you these.

'''Dr. Hart:''' (''Looks at the cookies''.) Alright.

(''Dr. Hart closes his laptop and Emma laughs''.)

'''Emma:''' So tell me about [[Gina]].

'''Dr. Hart:''' (''Stops smiling''.) She was fun. Like you. She was a fun girl.

'''Emma:''' (''Laughs''.) Really? She didn't look so fun in those videos.

'''Dr. Hart:''' Well, you have to understand she was really sick then. The first thirteen years of her life, Gina was... Well, I was always amazed at how up she was. How strong and happy.

(''Cut to Dr. Hart sitting down with Emma on the couch''.)

'''Dr. Hart:''' Well, as Gina realized she might- That she wasn't getting any better, she didn't want to be locked up anymore, like a lab rat.

'''Emma:''' Well, isn't that why you took her to the concert?

'''Dr. Hart:''' I was going to... Gina was the eleventh patient in the Hart Study. It was named after me. Believe that? A program responsible for the deaths of-

'''Emma:''' No. You didn't know, though. I mean, you were just trying to help people.

'''Dr. Hart:''' If I hadn't been so blind... If I wasn't so ambitious, then I would have known. And there was Gina...

'''Emma:''' Yeah, and wasn't she thirteen before she started to go trait negative?

'''Dr. Hart:''' For some reason her body stopped responding to the treatment we'd been giving her. Fevers, colds... Immune suppression. But then it got worse. It got a lot worse.

'''Emma:''' That's what would have happened to me, huh?

'''Dr. Hart:''' But as long as you stay [[trait positive|positive]]...

'''Emma:''' Oh, I'm positive. I'm a glass-half-full kind of girl.

'''Dr. Hart:''' Yes you are. Now are you gonna help me eat these cookies, or what?

'''Emma:''' (''Laughs''.) I thought you'd never ask.

==Notes==
*Dr. Hart implies that Gina died before she got a chance to go to the concert.
* "Stay positive" may be a pun advising [[Emma]] of staying [[trait positive]].
*This is yet another video with a vaguely sexual name.
*This title could be a reference to the Missy Elliot song {{wikipedia|Get_Ur_Freak_On|Get Ur Freak On}}.

LGPedia talk:Ways To Help

2007-11-29T22:54:48Z

64.81.108.2: oops Im still under my IP

New page. I'd love your thoughts on it! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 04:36, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:Isn't this another page that needs constant updates? -_^
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:39, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:To the same extent that the "Participate!" box on the Recent Changes page needed constant updates... if someone knows a task that needs doing they add it, if someone has completed a task, they remove it. Simple as that. But this way, someone who wants to help out isn't overwhelmed by a long list (it's subcategorized). Plus, a lot of confusion is avoided as far as "what does this page need?" because it says right there what changes each page requires. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 07:01, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:::While I love this page and think it is total genius, I'm kind of afraid to take completed tasks off of the page because maybe someone doesn't think they are complete, should we always ask on this talk page before we take each of them off or what? [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 16:54, 29 November 2007 (CST)

LGPedia talk:Ways To Help

2007-11-29T22:54:19Z

64.81.108.2:

New page. I'd love your thoughts on it! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 04:36, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:Isn't this another page that needs constant updates? -_^
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:39, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:To the same extent that the "Participate!" box on the Recent Changes page needed constant updates... if someone knows a task that needs doing they add it, if someone has completed a task, they remove it. Simple as that. But this way, someone who wants to help out isn't overwhelmed by a long list (it's subcategorized). Plus, a lot of confusion is avoided as far as "what does this page need?" because it says right there what changes each page requires. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 07:01, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:::While I love this page and think it is total genius, I'm kind of afraid to take completed tasks off of the page because maybe someone doesn't think they are complete, should we always ask on this talk page before we take each of them off or what? [[User:64.81.108.2|64.81.108.2]] 16:54, 29 November 2007 (CST)

Evil Drug Company Exposed!

2007-11-29T03:55:22Z

64.81.108.2:

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==Transcript==
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User:Nancypants/sandbox

2007-11-27T02:35:19Z

64.81.108.2:

Theories About Characters

2007-11-20T21:53:35Z

64.81.108.2: /* The Order */ hmm whatever

This page is used to post your theories about [[characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

==lonelygirl15==

===Bree===
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*The Order didn't kill Bree, they made it look like she died so Daniel and Jonas would stop chasing her.
*Bree is not dead, but will not be returning.
*Bree may be [[Kate]]'s biological sister.
*Bree was pregnant when she died
*Bree is in the mountains near Sedona.

===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for the order.
*Daniel was in love with Bree. (proven)
*Daniel will fall in love with Sarah.

===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*The Order performed Bree's ceremony incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die. (disproven)
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill Jonas as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.

===Jonas===
*Jonas will become brainwashed by the Order.
*Jonas will fall in love with Sarah.

===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by the Order.
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She is a [[Watcher]]. (disproven)
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down the Order.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract Spencer Gilman.

===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by the Order.
*Sarah is not related to Taylor by blood.
*Sarah texted the Watchers in the Season 1 Finale.
*Sarah loves Daniel. (proven)
*She is trait positive and the creepy guy is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant.
*Sarah has more than a 'passing interest' in Emma
*She is pregnant, and the crash diet of [[Lullaby Project]] food will cause major problems.
*Sarah loves Jonas.

===Bree's Mom===
*Bree's mother married Drew Avery as a command from [[The Order]].
*Bree's mother is part of [[The Resistance]].

===Drew Avery===
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of the Order.
*He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
*He died because he tried to make Bree trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]). (proven)

===Alex===
*She is still with the Order and gave Daniel a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample, she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*Alex and Lucy are biological sisters
*She is the young girl in [[Who's that girl?]]

===Jonas's Parents===
*They will be found by Alex and help the Resistance.
*They are Bree's real parents. (That would be pretty disgusting given the circumstances)
*Jonas's mom is the nurse that helped perform Bree's ceremony.
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.

===Jules===
*Jules is dead.

===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of the Order. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is Tachyon, and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-OpAphid, through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.

===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] is OpAphid or working for them.(disproven: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Lucy did not have knowledge of the Ceremony, and was therefore unable to answer Bree's questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help TAAG.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of the Resistance.
*The Mistress knows Bree.
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
*The Mistress is in the Order and killed Isaac Gilman.
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
*The Mistress is Jonas's biological mother.(disproven)
*The Mistress is the girl in "who's that girl?" video

===Rebecca===
*Rebecca is the girl in the photograph with Lucy seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]].
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on Bree for OpAphid.

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*Beth is the mole in [[Deep Throat]] (proven)
*The "rock star" was also a guest of Charlie's birthday party.
*Bree's Real Parents were at the party.

===Bree's Biological Parents===
*Bree's biological parents are Jonas's parents. (Let's hope, under the circumstances, that this is not true.)
*They died and the Order took Bree. (considering that Emma's first adopotive parents died, this is highly likely)
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for the Resistance.
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]], this would also mean that Bree and Jonas are biological brother and sister. (Once again, Let's hope this is not true, due to the circumstances.)

===Isaac Gilman===
*[[Isaac Gilman]] was Bree's real father.
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing Bree's dad was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
*He is the specialist who faked his death in Kate Modern. (disproven)

===Spencer Gilman===
*[[Spencer]] is Bree's brother.
*Spencer is a plant by the order.
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for Daniel and Jonas: save the other ceremony girls.
*Spencer will see KateModern and attempt to break back into the Wyman Foundation and steal Kate's blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*Spencer will no longer appear.(Proven:His name is on the list of [[Characters | Former Characters ]].)
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative. (disproven)
*Spencer and Taylor will eventually end up together
*Spencer will appear in KateModern

===Nikki Bower===
*She is [[trait positive]]

===The Watchers===
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting BDJ, not trying to kidnap them. (Proven)

===Virgil===
*[[Virgil]] is Emma's biological father.
*[[Virgil]] was the one who shot the shadow when [[BDJ]] were kidnapped in Las Vegas
*[[Virgil]] was the one who was watching over Daniel after he read the email left by Bree

===Shadows===
*[[Shadows]] and Watchers are against each other within the HoO. (Proven i.e. LaRezisto vs. Watcher)

===LaRezisto===
*LaRezisto is working against [[TAAG]]. (proven)
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of Daniel's house. He was responsible for Deep Throat and for Alex's betrayal of the Order. When Bree returned to the Hymn Of One unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls. (disproven)
*LaRezisto isn't a single person, it is a group similar to the Order, with members all over the world. (disproven)

===Scott===
*[[Scott]] will convince Sarah to rejoin TAAG to save Emma.(disproven)
*Scott is the [[Gross Guy]].
*Scott is the [[Watcher]] in [[Stakeout... With A Girl]] that told [[Jonas]] the truth about [[LaRezisto]] (disproven)
*Scott was written out of the show.
*The character's name, [[Scott]], was changed to [[Virgil]].

===Emma===
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for the ceremony.
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood, especially the Elders. (disproven)
*She was abducted as a baby (Dr. Griffin explains in [[Dr. Weirdo]] that as a rule, trait positive girls are abducted as babies).
*She was adopted by Jonas's parents around age 9 (Jonas's parents disappeared 6 years ago and Emma is now around age 15). (Proven)
*She took Purple Monkey and the other stuffed friends with her when she left.
*Emma will no longer be a main character.

===Mallory===
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls. (disproven. She seen the videos, but continues to not want Daniel to go & fight)
*Mallory is a plant by the order.
*Mallory is trait positive.
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.
*Mallory will break up with Daniel because of Sarah.
*Mallory is having some sort of relationship with [[Mr. Banks]]/[[Professor DelMundo]].
*Mallory is using the film school to distract Daniel from fighting the Order.
*Mallory will join the fight after she finds out of [[Jonas]] and [[Sarah]]'s situation

===Purple Monkey===
'''Warning! This section really does contains humor. If it's hard for you to deal with that, please [[Special:Random|move along.]]'''
*[[Purple Monkey]] is [[trait positive]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey is [[LaRezisto]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey will give himself up to protect [[TAAG]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey is awesome! (PROVEN!)
*Purple Monkey was a plant by the [[Order]].
*Purple Monkey is a reversible hand puppet
*Purple Monkey was made in China(PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey will be lost, and found by [[Kate]]
*[[Purple Monkey]] killed [[Gemma]] as revenge for [[Don't Trust The Authorities|insulting him]].
*Purple Monkey's real name is [[Kate]]
*Purple Monkey is in the mountains near Sedona.
*Purple Monkey is in the Hymn of One.
*Purple Monkey got it from his mama. (PROVEN.)
*Purple Monkey and Bree had a secret love affair until he cheated on her with Sarah, and then Bree broke it off. (Totally proven.)

== KateModern ==

===Kate (Genevieve)===
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from someone, possibly the Order. The order is the connection to lg15.
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*Kate will join the HoO and Gavin, Tariq, and Charlie will try to save her.
*Kate is a parallel character to Bree.
*Kate and Bree are twins. (disproven: Kate is 19 while at the time of her death Bree was only 17)
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister.
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution. (disproven though she stayed in a hospital for a month because of her dreams.)
*The people that wiped Jonas's parents' memories did the same to Kate.
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Kate will appear in lonelygirl15.
*Kate really is going to America to study art with [[Michelle Clore]]
*Kate's body is being harvested for Michelle Clore to transfer into.
*Michelle Clore is Kate's biological sister or mother

===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of the Order.
*Charlie is Tariq's ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is Gemma's ex-flatmate
*Charlie is Gemma's sister
*Charlie was once pregnant and lost the baby through miscarriage, abortion, or adoption.
*Charlie is a parallel character to Daniel and Taylor.
*Charlie's sister and niece are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much.(disproven:Charlie put one message in her video "[[Tell Kim I Love Her]]",to tell her niece that Charlie loves her .)
*Charlie is a parallel character to Sarah.
*Charlie is working for the HoO or, possibly, the Order.
*Charlie had a falling out with her family and can't return home. This is why she always talks about how she wishes she could go home.
*Charlie will move in with Gavin after she got evicted(proven)

===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.(disproven)
*Gavin will see the lg15 videos and ask Jonas for a loan. (disproven)
*Gavin is a member of the HoO or the Order.
*Gavin is a member of the Resistance.
*Gavin is a parallel character to Jonas, which could mean that he also has connections to the Order.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate.
*Gavin and Tariq will be arrested for making the spy software

===Tariq===
* Tariq is a parallel character to Daniel.
* Tariq's date will have some connection to HoO/The Order (Proven)
*Tariq and Gavin will be arrested for making the spy software

===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of the Order
*Steve is a parallel character to [[Alex]]. (disproven since he's going back to his HoO religion)
*He will use his inside knowledge to help Kate and her friends.

===Aunt Joan===
*Aunt Joan is related to Jonas.
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with Nikki Bower.

===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and Spencer are half brothers.
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are parallel characters.(disproven for Dudley tried and hurt [[Charlie]] [[Tariq]] and [[Steve]])
*[[The Mistress]] is his mother.

===Dr. William Griffin===
*He is the Rogue Elder Larezisto works for. (disproven)

===Michelle Clore===
*Her touch "burned" Kate somehow. (disproven, Kate saw "flashes of dreams when she was touched.")
*She is the woman from [[Awful Dream]].
*Michelle Clore is the Rogue Elder. (disproven)
*Michelle Clore is preparing to steal Kate's body and youth.

===Julia===
*[[Julia (katemodern)|Julia]] is in [[The Order]]
*Julia works at the Orange Retail Store, which has some connection to the [[Orange Slurpee|Orange Slurpees of Evil]] (PROVEN!!)
*Julia is a parallel character to Mallory

===Kim===
*She is [[Charlie]]'s daughter.

===Lee===
*Lee is a parallel character to Spencer
*Lee is a plant by the Order
*Lee will be killed by the Order
*Lee will sell the spy software to the Order
*Lee knows where Kate(Genevieve) is

== See Also ==
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

Theories About Characters

2007-11-20T21:52:53Z

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This page is used to post your theories about [[characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

==lonelygirl15==

===Bree===
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*The Order didn't kill Bree, they made it look like she died so Daniel and Jonas would stop chasing her.
*Bree is not dead, but will not be returning.
*Bree may be [[Kate]]'s biological sister.
*Bree was pregnant when she died
*Bree is in the mountains near Sedona.

===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for the order.
*Daniel was in love with Bree. (proven)
*Daniel will fall in love with Sarah.

===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*The Order performed Bree's ceremony incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die. (disproved)
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill Jonas as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.

===Jonas===
*Jonas will become brainwashed by the Order.
*Jonas will fall in love with Sarah.

===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by the Order.
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She is a [[Watcher]]. (disproven)
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down the Order.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract Spencer Gilman.

===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by the Order.
*Sarah is not related to Taylor by blood.
*Sarah texted the Watchers in the Season 1 Finale.
*Sarah loves Daniel. (proven)
*She is trait positive and the creepy guy is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant.
*Sarah has more than a 'passing interest' in Emma
*She is pregnant, and the crash diet of [[Lullaby Project]] food will cause major problems.
*Sarah loves Jonas.

===Bree's Mom===
*Bree's mother married Drew Avery as a command from [[The Order]].
*Bree's mother is part of [[The Resistance]].

===Drew Avery===
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of the Order.
*He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
*He died because he tried to make Bree trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]). (proven)

===Alex===
*She is still with the Order and gave Daniel a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample, she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*Alex and Lucy are biological sisters
*She is the young girl in [[Who's that girl?]]

===Jonas's Parents===
*They will be found by Alex and help the Resistance.
*They are Bree's real parents. (That would be pretty disgusting given the circumstances)
*Jonas's mom is the nurse that helped perform Bree's ceremony.
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.

===Jules===
*Jules is dead.

===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of the Order. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is Tachyon, and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-OpAphid, through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.

===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] is OpAphid or working for them.(disproven: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Lucy did not have knowledge of the Ceremony, and was therefore unable to answer Bree's questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help TAAG.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of the Resistance.
*The Mistress knows Bree.
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
*The Mistress is in the Order and killed Isaac Gilman.
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
*The Mistress is Jonas's biological mother.(disproven)
*The Mistress is the girl in "who's that girl?" video

===Rebecca===
*Rebecca is the girl in the photograph with Lucy seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]].
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on Bree for OpAphid.

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*Beth is the mole in [[Deep Throat]] (proven)
*The "rock star" was also a guest of Charlie's birthday party.
*Bree's Real Parents were at the party.

===Bree's Biological Parents===
*Bree's biological parents are Jonas's parents. (Let's hope, under the circumstances, that this is not true.)
*They died and the Order took Bree. (considering that Emma's first adopotive parents died, this is highly likely)
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for the Resistance.
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]], this would also mean that Bree and Jonas are biological brother and sister. (Once again, Let's hope this is not true, due to the circumstances.)

===Isaac Gilman===
*[[Isaac Gilman]] was Bree's real father.
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing Bree's dad was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
*He is the specialist who faked his death in Kate Modern. (disproven)

===Spencer Gilman===
*[[Spencer]] is Bree's brother.
*Spencer is a plant by the order.
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for Daniel and Jonas: save the other ceremony girls.
*Spencer will see KateModern and attempt to break back into the Wyman Foundation and steal Kate's blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*Spencer will no longer appear.(Proven:His name is on the list of [[Characters | Former Characters ]].)
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative. (disproven)
*Spencer and Taylor will eventually end up together
*Spencer will appear in KateModern

===Nikki Bower===
*She is [[trait positive]]

===The Watchers===
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting BDJ, not trying to kidnap them. (Proven)

===Virgil===
*[[Virgil]] is Emma's biological father.
*[[Virgil]] was the one who shot the shadow when [[BDJ]] were kidnapped in Las Vegas
*[[Virgil]] was the one who was watching over Daniel after he read the email left by Bree

===Shadows===
*[[Shadows]] and Watchers are against each other within the HoO. (Proven i.e. LaRezisto vs. Watcher)

===LaRezisto===
*LaRezisto is working against [[TAAG]]. (proven)
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of Daniel's house. He was responsible for Deep Throat and for Alex's betrayal of the Order. When Bree returned to the Hymn Of One unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls. (disproven)
*LaRezisto isn't a single person, it is a group similar to the Order, with members all over the world. (disproven)

===Scott===
*[[Scott]] will convince Sarah to rejoin TAAG to save Emma.(disproven)
*Scott is the [[Gross Guy]].
*Scott is the [[Watcher]] in [[Stakeout... With A Girl]] that told [[Jonas]] the truth about [[LaRezisto]] (disproven)
*Scott was written out of the show.
*The character's name, [[Scott]], was changed to [[Virgil]].

===Emma===
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for the ceremony.
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood, especially the Elders. (disproven)
*She was abducted as a baby (Dr. Griffin explains in [[Dr. Weirdo]] that as a rule, trait positive girls are abducted as babies).
*She was adopted by Jonas's parents around age 9 (Jonas's parents disappeared 6 years ago and Emma is now around age 15). (Proven)
*She took Purple Monkey and the other stuffed friends with her when she left.
*Emma will no longer be a main character.

===Mallory===
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls. (disproven. She seen the videos, but continues to not want Daniel to go & fight)
*Mallory is a plant by the order.
*Mallory is trait positive.
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.
*Mallory will break up with Daniel because of Sarah.
*Mallory is having some sort of relationship with [[Mr. Banks]]/[[Professor DelMundo]].
*Mallory is using the film school to distract Daniel from fighting the Order.
*Mallory will join the fight after she finds out of [[Jonas]] and [[Sarah]]'s situation

===Purple Monkey===
'''Warning! This section really does contains humor. If it's hard for you to deal with that, please [[Special:Random|move along.]]'''
*[[Purple Monkey]] is [[trait positive]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey is [[LaRezisto]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey will give himself up to protect [[TAAG]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey is awesome! (PROVEN!)
*Purple Monkey was a plant by the [[Order]].
*Purple Monkey is a reversible hand puppet
*Purple Monkey was made in China(PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey will be lost, and found by [[Kate]]
*[[Purple Monkey]] killed [[Gemma]] as revenge for [[Don't Trust The Authorities|insulting him]].
*Purple Monkey's real name is [[Kate]]
*Purple Monkey is in the mountains near Sedona.
*Purple Monkey is in the Hymn of One.
*Purple Monkey got it from his mama. (PROVEN.)
*Purple Monkey and Bree had a secret love affair until he cheated on her with Sarah, and then Bree broke it off. (Totally proven.)

== KateModern ==

===Kate (Genevieve)===
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from someone, possibly the Order. The order is the connection to lg15.
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*Kate will join the HoO and Gavin, Tariq, and Charlie will try to save her.
*Kate is a parallel character to Bree.
*Kate and Bree are twins. (disproven: Kate is 19 while at the time of her death Bree was only 17)
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister.
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution. (disproven though she stayed in a hospital for a month because of her dreams.)
*The people that wiped Jonas's parents' memories did the same to Kate.
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Kate will appear in lonelygirl15.
*Kate really is going to America to study art with [[Michelle Clore]]
*Kate's body is being harvested for Michelle Clore to transfer into.
*Michelle Clore is Kate's biological sister or mother

===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of the Order.
*Charlie is Tariq's ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is Gemma's ex-flatmate
*Charlie is Gemma's sister
*Charlie was once pregnant and lost the baby through miscarriage, abortion, or adoption.
*Charlie is a parallel character to Daniel and Taylor.
*Charlie's sister and niece are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much.(disproven:Charlie put one message in her video "[[Tell Kim I Love Her]]",to tell her niece that Charlie loves her .)
*Charlie is a parallel character to Sarah.
*Charlie is working for the HoO or, possibly, the Order.
*Charlie had a falling out with her family and can't return home. This is why she always talks about how she wishes she could go home.
*Charlie will move in with Gavin after she got evicted(proven)

===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.(disproven)
*Gavin will see the lg15 videos and ask Jonas for a loan. (disproven)
*Gavin is a member of the HoO or the Order.
*Gavin is a member of the Resistance.
*Gavin is a parallel character to Jonas, which could mean that he also has connections to the Order.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate.
*Gavin and Tariq will be arrested for making the spy software

===Tariq===
* Tariq is a parallel character to Daniel.
* Tariq's date will have some connection to HoO/The Order (Proven)
*Tariq and Gavin will be arrested for making the spy software

===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of the Order
*Steve is a parallel character to [[Alex]]. (disproven since he's going back to his HoO religion)
*He will use his inside knowledge to help Kate and her friends.

===Aunt Joan===
*Aunt Joan is related to Jonas.
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with Nikki Bower.

===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and Spencer are half brothers.
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are parallel characters.(disproven for Dudley tried and hurt [[Charlie]] [[Tariq]] and [[Steve]])
*[[The Mistress]] is his mother.

===Dr. William Griffin===
*He is the Rogue Elder Larezisto works for. (disproven)

===Michelle Clore===
*Her touch "burned" Kate somehow. (disproven, Kate saw "flashes of dreams when she was touched.")
*She is the woman from [[Awful Dream]].
*Michelle Clore is the Rogue Elder. (disproven)
*Michelle Clore is preparing to steal Kate's body and youth.

===Julia===
*[[Julia (katemodern)|Julia]] is in [[The Order]]
*Julia works at the Orange Retail Store, which has some connection to the [[Orange Slurpee|Orange Slurpees of Evil]] (PROVEN!!)
*Julia is a parallel character to Mallory

===Kim===
*She is [[Charlie]]'s daughter.

===Lee===
*Lee is a parallel character to Spencer
*Lee is a plant by the Order
*Lee will be killed by the Order
*Lee will sell the spy software to the Order
*Lee knows where Kate(Genevieve) is

== See Also ==
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

Intense / in tents

2007-11-16T01:49:22Z

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Mallory

2007-11-15T00:50:43Z

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'''Mallory''' is [[Daniel]]'s new girlfriend. He first mentions her in his video [[Drunken Yodeling]]. He states in that video that they've only been dating for a week but that they get along fine.

==Background==

When Daniel and Mallory [[Hot Date|go on a date]], Mallory describes her life. She doesn't really remember her birth. In preschool, she liked finger painting and is sad that they had to stop that. In third grade, [[Garett Lovett]] tried to kiss her, and she found it disgusting. In sixth grade, Garett ''did'' kiss her, and she found it amazing. Her freshman year in high school was her best year of her life, when her mother left her father. Her junior year, her heart got broken, though it wasn't by Garett. She is now in junior college.

It was first revealed that Mallory was aware of the Daniel's resistance activities in [[Secrets Revealed]]. In this video, Sarah attempted to sit Mallory down and expose all of Daniels lies to her. Mallory revealed that she already knew of Daniel's activities and had for some time but that Daniel had just recently told her himself. She told Sarah that she wanted to see how serious Daniel was about their relationship and that she understood everything. Although at first, Mallory was not involved in actively fighting the Order, and simply posted videos asking viewers to [[Please Help|help Daniel]] finish his school project, Mallory made her first move toward being part of the resistance by [[A Woman's Touch|flirting]] with [[Chris]] to get information about HoO activity. Daniel obviously [[Slow Down and Stare|wasn't happy about this]], reproaching her even while they were [[What's Going on?|staking out Chris]]. By the time Daniel, Jonas and Sarah left to free Emma, however, [[Is This The End?|he seemed to have forgiven her]], and when Daniel had [[School's Out|lost his place in film class]] again, Mallory, once more, [[School’s In|saved the day]].

==Relationship with TAAG==
===Daniel===
Until recently, Mallory and Daniel's relationship had not been under much duress.
Their relationship first became strained when [[Slow Down and Stare|he found out]] Sarah had [[A Woman's Touch|tricked]] Mallory into coming with her to find [[Chris]] and subsequently flirting with him to get information. Daniel was against Sarah and Mallory's methods of getting information, and Mallory accused Daniel of being sexist. Daniel later [[What's Going on?|stated]] he would not be getting over this confrontation anytime soon. No more was said about Chris for some time, and Mallory and Daniel's relationship remained solid, leading Mallory to [[School's In|help Daniel]] get back into film class.

===Sarah===
Mallory had become somewhat of a fixture in their new house, which had not bothered Daniel or Jonas. Sarah, however, was not as welcoming. Despite this, and Sarah's attempt to [[Secrets Revealed|expose]] Daniel's activities, Mallory remained, for the most part, kind toward Sarah and had seemingly begun to [[Carving Pumpkins|win her over]] by early October.

==Etymology of Mallory==
[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Mallory&action=edit Mallory] comes from an English surname which meant "unfortunate" in Norman French.

==Notes==
*Mallory's personality and life story repeat patterns found in other characters, such as being a sweet girl like [[Bree]], and having separated parents like [[Taylor]] and [[Sarah]].
*In [[A Woman's Touch]], Mallory said that she is Presbyterian. This makes her the first character since Bree to openly state her religious affiliations, aside from members of the [[Hymn of One]].

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Abducted?!

2007-11-12T23:26:12Z

64.81.108.2:

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==Transcript==
(''Daniel and Sarah are sitting in the van.'')

'''Daniel:''' So... after [[Gay or Not?|yesterday's video]], this is probably the last place you think you'd see me. Another stakeout. But I decided... I can go to film school and fight [[the Order]]. I mean... if I can shoot video [[Robbing the Cradle|while being chased]] by guys with guns, I can multi-task this, right?

'''Sarah:''' Right! You're a ''great'' multi-tasker. That's why you can always remember to put the seat down after you pee. Hey, here he comes.

(''Camera pans to Jonas, running towards the van. He gets in a slams the door.'')

'''Jonas:''' Guys.

'''Daniel:''' What? What?

'''Jonas:''' The truck just left the warehouse.

'''Daniel:''' Did you see what they put in it?

'''Jonas:''' Just like a bunch of boxes.

'''Sarah:''' Boxes of what?

'''Jonas:''' I dunno. That's the million dollar question.

(''Cuts to later, Daniel in the van alone.'')

'''Daniel:''' All right, we followed this truck driver out to this cafe. I guess he's gonna get something to eat, but-- that's him right there!

(''Cuts to young man in a gray t-shirt, jeans, and baseball cap, walking outside.'')

'''Daniel:''' All right, I'm gonna go in and take a... just keep an eye on him. (''cuts back to Daniel'') Hopefully Jonas and Sarah will be able to take a look at his truck.

(''Cuts to a shot of the truck, then cuts to later, inside the cafe. We see the young man sipping coffee.'')

'''Daniel:''' Does that even look like a truck driver to you? I... I thought they all had leathery skin, and looked scraggly, salt-and-pepper beards... I don't know, a potbelly or somethin'? Weird...

(''Cuts to Daniel running outside. We see an empty parking space.'')

'''Daniel:''' Wait a minute... What the--? The truck's missing! (''calling out'') Hey, Jonas! Sarah! (''runs over to the van; it's empty'') They're not here either! (''whispers'') [[Four-letter words|Shit]]! (''cuts to Daniel's face'') All right, that guy was watching inside. He-- he wasn't the driver. I mean, I just got out here, the truck's gone... I don't know where it is! I mean, it ''was'' right there. And now, Jonas and Sarah are gone as well, I just... I don't know where the hell to go now! I... (''whispers'')
dammit. what now?

==Notes==
* Most people were puzzled as to why this truck was significant and daniel left a comment later that day clearing it up.
"Sorry, guys, should have told you the truck was from the Lullaby Project. Jonas found out they were sending a shipment off to one of their “missions,” but nobody would say where it was going or what the shipment was. So… I don’t know. Still no word from them. I’m pretty freaked out."

They're Gone

2007-11-12T23:24:49Z

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==Transcript==
(Daniel pacing around the room)

'''Daniel::''' I havnt heard from Sarah or Jonas since friday.

(Daniel sits down at the desk)

'''Daniel:'''We were following that truck, and i went inside the diner to keep an eye on the driver, and i guess i got mixed up, becasue when i came out they were gone. Sarahs phone was in Jonas's car and i guess Jonas has his on him, but whenever i call it, it gives me this, wierd tone that says his phone isnt enabled for international calls. So anyway i ended up driving round for hours trying to figure out where that truck went, but im no detective, I..I dunno, So I ended up back at home, and i made a phone call that i was dreading.

(Cuts to Daniel at a laptop making a video call)

(Dial Tone)

(Taylor appears on the laptop wearing a headset)

'''Taylor:'''Hey Daniel.

'''Daniel::'''Hey Taylor, how you doin ?

'''Taylor:''' Fine, I was just thinking about you

'''Daniel:''' Oh Yeah ?

'''Taylor:''' Yeah, I saw you posted on whatwierd.com

(Cuts to slightly differnt angle)

'''Taylor:''' So that stuff is totally bizzare.

'''Daniel:''' I dunno, its weird what people make up.

'''Taylor:''' What, you think its made up ?

'''Daniel:''' I dunno, listen Taylor, have you heard from Sarah?

'''Taylor:''' No, but Sarah's not exactly the poster child for keeping in touch, now is she?

'''Daniel:''' No but have you been watching our videos though ?

'''Taylor:''' Not lately. I've been kinda busy with school and soccer but I'll catch up.

'''Daniel:''' Listen, I uh, I dont know where she is, uh, she kinda dissapeared.

'''Taylor:''' What do you mean dissapeared ?

'''Daniel:''' Like, Like she took off.

'''Taylor:''' Well I mean thats Sarah right ? Shes probably just off sulking somewhere.

(Taylors mobile phone rings)

'''Taylor:''' Shoot,

'''Daniel:''' What ?

'''Taylor:''' Okay, I gotta go, um, but I'll let you know if Sarah calls, okay ?

(Taylor cuts the video call off)

'''Daniel:''' Ok, but, She's hung up.

(Cuts to Daniel pacing around the room)

'''Daniel:'''Now I just, I dont know what to do.

(Daniel sits down at the desk)

'''Daniel:'''Mallory isn't around, shes off working on a film project for DelMundo's class, I mean the place is empty, I'm just goin crazy around here, I've a ton of school work to do, but I just, I cant focus. I mean, where te hell are they ?

==Notes==
*This is the first on-screen appearence on screen of Taylor since episode 281 "Sister to Sister" (64 videos ago) which could mean Taylor could possibly be coming back to the show.
*This video has yet another mention of whatweird.com meaning something more could be behind the website.
*Daniel says Mallory is away working on a project for Prof. DelMundo, which could add to specultion that Mallory and Prof. DelMundo are having a relationship.
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LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony

2007-11-10T03:45:46Z

64.81.108.2: reverting spam again

[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

Welcome to '''Lucy's Balcony''', a place to ask questions or discuss general issues about the [[LGPedia]]. This page is intended to be a place where admins and active editors can discuss ongoing issues, ideas and concerns. To start a new thread, [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&action=edit&section=new click here]. Please remember to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end.

For old or inactive conversations, visit [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/archive|Lucy's archive]].

[[Image:snowwhitebalcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[User:Zoey|Zoey]], one of your [[LGPedia]] admins, frolics with the doves on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

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==No uploading??==

The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".

::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
::<small>P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?</small>

::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

==Missions Page==
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox

:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Show Template?==
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
:Any thoughts at all? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?
:::We. Don't. Care.
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007
(CDT)

::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==LGPedia: pages==
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

==I Finished the Missions Page==
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Potential naming problem==
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).

==Portals==
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

== Maddison Atkins ==

Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

== Relationships ==

Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==Location pages for KM==
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:
*By City - "Images of London."
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:25, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

== KM Forum Links ==
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

::Oops :X
::My bad, consider it fixed.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

== Re-Organization Day ==

Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

== Need help with title! ==

There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)

== Vandalism ==
I was shocked by the amount of vandalism that is talking place on the lgpedia lately. I just went to recent changes and half of them were banning of vandals/spammers. This is becoming a serious problem, as our hardworking members should not have to constantly ban all these IP addresses when their time could be better spent. I'm opening a discussion on the topic as to find a solution. The floor is open. Any ideas/comments? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:45, 22 October 2007 (EST)

:I'm glad you started the discussion. I'm not really sure what the best solution is this time. Before, when the spamming took the form of external links, we were able to filter those by requiring verification when an external link was added. The only solution I can think of for this problem is to require something similar for every edit that is made. I'm not sure if it'd be possible to restrict that to anonymous users or not, but if so that's a possibility. The obvious downside is that it could become a huge hassle for people trying to edit normally. But maybe there's a creative solution that hasn't occurred to me. Ideas?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:30, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

::The current external link verification is already annoying. A general captcha for every edit would be death.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

: Isn't there a way where only people with a username can edit? I know it might sounds dumb, but I think it could relieve a few headaches. Who is xwestsidex or whatever? I dunno who he is. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 03:22, 23 October 2007 (PST)

::Yes there is - to set that up, we'd either have to protect each page manually (or, ''they''), or we need the FTP access I requested ''months'' ago. But both options would put off casual, unregistered users. You'd be punishing a large majority of users for the deeds of a small, non-community minority of spammers.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Requiring a username was brought up a while back, and we decided that it's simply not worth it. As Renegade said, it'd be cutting off a lot of people who would otherwise contribute. When I first started editing, I didn't have a username and I don't think I would have gotten involved if I had had to register right away. Besides, being a place that ''anyone'' can edit is somewhat of a cardinal rules of wikis in general. Oh, and xwestsidex is a vandal from a while ago who pops his pathetic head in every once in a while to cause what he thinks is mischief. Suffice it to say that anything from xwestsidex won't really make sense and can probably be reverted.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:36, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

:But it's so annoying having to go around stopping the spam. I just spent a good part of my morning chasing around some spammers. I feel like ''I'' spammed the recent changes page. Lol, if you go look there, there's a whole page of just my edits. It's quite embarassing. I know it would cut a whole bunch of ppl out of the loop, but I kinda wish the username verification system was in place. I'm so selfish. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 04:16, 25 October 2007 (PST)

I don't usually make comments on pages like this, but I thought I'd point a few things out.<br />
-In the last day, there have been 68 edits by anonymous users. 55 of those edits were made by IPs currently banned for being a vandal.<br />
-5 of those remaining 13 were reverted.<br />
<br />
As far as edits go that actually "improved" this wiki...<br />
-2 were people reverting poor edits (one was me!). <br />
-There was an edit that corrected who posted clues to Emma's code.<br />
-One changed a period to a question mark.<br />
-Three edits were right after each other, and probably could've just been one.<br />
-There was an edit to theories about Purple Monkey, which is a funny section.<br />

--[[User:Ricket|Ricket]] 16:38, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

:Ricket makes a good point. Surely Registering for an account can't be that big of a deal? I see a lot more benefits than, er, non-benefits, from requiring a username to make edits. From what I've seen, of the dozens of spammers/vandals banned, only one or two were registered users. But seeing as so many people are against it, maybe we could require some question to be answered? (I don't mean 1+4=?, I mean Basic things that anyone who has ever seen the show would know: "The 'p' in "P. Monkey" stands for..." "The lonelygirl15 is _____'s account", stuff like that? EDIT: Questions are for unregistered users, of course.--[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:09, 30 October 2007 (EST)

::Erm, no. Maybe ''that'' would be a hassle. I mean, ''that'' will discourage even more users from editing. (Laziness factor) I've been up until 5 in the morning on LG15 ('cause I have no life) and about more than 90% of the vandalisms that occur during that time is from non-registered people. I've only seen one registered user vandalize and one non-registered person actually contribute to the LGPedia. I do understand that we are trying to include everyone, and that that's what a wiki is all about, but you gotta decide which is th lesser evil: Cutting out non-registered people out and prevent vandalism, or allow everyone to participate even if that includes vandalism. I doubt that this xwestsidex fellow isn't gonna stop any time soon. And who knows? Maybe other people who aren't xwestsidex will vandalize under that alias, just for the fun of vandalizing. Then the problem will ''never'' go away. I don't think, in my opinion, it's worth it. It'll just make the LG15 experience more enjoyable and less of a chore to edit. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 11:57, 30 October 2007 (PST)
:::We should be more worried about the spammers (the ones who put random letters all over pages) that that stupid westside guy, he's clearly an imbecile. All he does is say 'fish taco' alot. The ones that actually spam the pages are the worst because they are able to work so quickly and we don't block them fast enough. I think the answer is blocking the spammers faster and making more pages have to answer the math questions..thats my thoughts on it. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 20:11, 9 November 2007 (CST)

== KMProduction and Sophie Recap vids deleted?? ==

Just wondering, why were my KateModern Production and Sophie Recap videos deleted? The pages, I mean. The KateModern Production videos are very much a part of KM and the Sophie Recap videos were posted on the official KateModernLG15 YouTube account, as well as Sophie's own Bebo. And Sophie is just as much official as Nikki B is on LG. So, why were they deleted? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:40, 30 October 2007 (CDT)

:Looking at the [[Special:Log/Delete|deletion log]], [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] put "see [[Talk:Portal:KateModern]]" (I added the link) as the reason for the deletion. I looked there and there seems to be part of an explanation for why the videos shouldn't be included in the official list, but I'm not sure why they can't have pages. Back in the [[List of New Girl Candidates|new ceremony girl]] phase, there were a lot of videos that got pages because they were related to the lonelygirl15 story. Unless there's an explanation somewhere that I'm missing, I'm for restoring the video pages. But since Zoey deleted them, I'll wait for her response before I do anything.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 13:45, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

::I understand Zoey's point but I still think that since the videos were made by the official KM team, they should at least have pages on here. Don't include them in the list, as they're not canon persay, but they still deserve a page.
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:50, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

I deleted the KateModern production videos because they are ''not'' official videos by any means, they are just BTS extras for anyone who wants to watch them. Not to mention, they are heavily edited and would be hard to transcribe. There's really no purpose to doing so because they don't futher the story in any way. It's like offering a "script" to the bonus features on a DVD. That seems silly. Why not just link to the bonus features and let whomever wants to enjoy them enjoy them?

About Sophie's videos, I removed them because, they, too, would be hard to transcribe, and are literally just recuts of what already exists in all of the previous transcripts, whereas the lg15 recaps are actual... recaps. But the big deciding factor for me was their lack of placement in the official list of Katemodern videos on the Bebo page.

I know that we created a bajillion pages way back in the day of the "new girls," and I'm on purpose trying to avoid going that route again. It was chaos trying to keep up, and I was the one who ended up taking the grunt of the work. For me, it's way more important to focus on videos that are actually important in furthering the two main story than "extras" that are unnecessary and can be understood by watching the other videos or reading the other transcripts. If someone wants to ''personally'' take responsibilty for the maintenance of the pages, and not just create them and never transcribe them... or start out working on them and then give up (meaning this would be something you'd have to keep up long term, because I do not personally see the point of doing any more than just linking to the pages and will therefore not be responsible for their upkeep), then fine, I will undelete them. But if they are just going to sit there as halfway completed pages, there is no reason for them to be created as pages on here. They aren't official, they don't further the stories, and they can, and most likely ''will'' end up just cluttering the LGPedia if people don't actively take responsiblity for them. So yes, that was my logic, at least. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

:'''PS''' I thought I should note, the recap videos haven't been ''totally'' removed from the LGPedia by any means. They are still listed on: [[Sophie]]. And the BTS videos are still listed on [[KateModern]].

== OpAphid mess ==

Silver recently tried to unify the OpAphid bloglines, and the situation currently is kind of a giant mess. We need a consent on how we're going to treat the series and all connected blogs.
*Before, we had separate templates and "series" strands for Brother, Tachyon and OpAphid. The only thing crossing over was [[Miss Me?]], which used [[Template:Blog]] rather than [[Template:Aphid]]. Apart from that, all bloggers were independent from each other, using their own templates.
*Now, all pre-canon and parallel videos, including Brother's and Tachyon's, use Template:Aphid, up until Miss Me?, which uses Blog, and all following ones use the brand new [[Template:Redearth88]].
I was tasked with deciding whether to revert this change or not. In theory, Silver's system does make more sense. We do not have separate bloglines for Daniel and Jonas either, and neither do we do that in series like Maddison Atkins. However, since this is a rather drastic departure from our previous (year-old) system, which, among other things, means that videos by OpAphid use three different templates by now, I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on this before I go through and revert dozens of videos, when it's actually a logical change.

On the other hand, it's rather unfortunate that Tachyon's vids have the look and feel of OpAphid now, so if we do keep it the way it is, we should go all the way and create a "neutral" theme for the Aphid template, just as we have for other series. (Not to mention that the transformation wasn't 100% pretty, and all videos would need a post-change checkup of the links and variable settings.)

In addition, I just heard that it's, for some reason necessary that the new vids use the RedEarth template, so changing the post-canon vids over is kind of out of question.

Even though I loathe the work, I, personally, vote for a cleaned-up unification, including a new template theme, simply because we're doing it everywhere else as well, and it actually makes sense to have Brother's and Tachyon's videos, which are more or less a back-and-forth in communication, lined up next to each other.

Still, the old system is over a year old, and it's a rather drastic change, so...what's ''your'' opinion?
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 14:29, 5 November 2007 (CST)

Connections

2007-11-03T01:21:13Z

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(''Shown is a table with a Mac laptop. Jonas throws on it three paper plates, reading "The Hymn of One," "The Wyman Foundation," and "Verdus Pharmaceuticals." Each plate has its respective company symbol.'')

'''Jonas:''' I've been trying to put it all together. (''sigh'') What everything meant at that press conference that we walked in on. What it means? And, well, Daniel hasn't been much help.

'''Danie:''' Hey, Jonas, man. Check this out.

'''Jonas:''' Hm? What is it?

'''Daniel:''' That girl Suzy, with the, uh, website "what weird dot com" She got some videos linked. Some of the craziest videos I've seen on YouTube.

'''Jonas:''' Hm, okay. Have fun with that. It looks like it's just me. Okay, okay, okay. What do we know? The Hymn of One is a cult, which is a cover for the Order. Wyman Foundation which is, uh, a non-profit research organization which is, drum roll, a cover for the Order. Now we got [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]]. Verdus Pharmaceuticals. "Who are they?" you ask. Why, they are a mega-huge drug company. And the fact that they have been asked, and they are now working in conjunction with the Hymn of one and the Wyman Foundation, well, to me that is scary. Even the name of the project, the "Lullaby Project," freaks me out. Rock-a-bye baby, on the tree tops, when the wind blows-- it's a demented song! It's a demented song! but I tell you what, it's actually a perfect soundtrack for all of this. So, at the press conference, what did the guy say? The guy said that the Lullaby Project is gonna provide prenatal care for under privilege women. I say to myself, "Well, wait a minute. Huh, that sounds interesting. that sounds innocent and benevolent and kinda a good thing. But wait a minute. I did a little digging and I went to the Verdus website, and what did I find? Verdus is hosting a life extension panel

==Notes==
The website Jonas is referring to is [http://www.verduspharma.com VerdusPharma.com]

Connections

2007-11-03T01:19:54Z

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==Transcript==
{{transcript incomplete}}
(''Shown is a table with a Mac laptop. Jonas throws on it three paper plates, reading "The Hymn of One," "The Wyman Foundation," and "Verdus Pharmaceuticals." Each plate has its respective company symbol.'')

'''Jonas:''' I've been trying to put it all together. (''sigh'') What everything meant at that press conference that we walked in on. What it means? And, well, Daniel hasn't been much help.

'''Danie:''' Hey, Jonas, man. Check this out.

'''Jonas:''' Hm? What is it?

'''Daniel:''' That girl Suzy, with the, uh, website "what weird dot com" She got some videos linked. Some of the craziest videos I've seen on YouTube.

'''Jonas:''' Hm, okay. Have fun with that. It looks like it's just me. Okay, okay, okay. What do we know? The Hymn of One is a cult, which is a cover for the Order. Wyman Foundation which is, uh, a non-profit research organization which is, drum roll, a cover for the Order. Now we got Verdus Pharmaceuticals. Verdus Pharmaceuticals. "Who are they?" you ask. Why, they are a mega-huge drug company. And the fact that they have been asked, and they are now working in conjunction with the Hymn of one and the Wyman Foundation, well, to me that is scary. Even the name of the project, the "Lullaby Project," freaks me out. Rock-a-bye baby, on the tree tops, when the wind blows-- it's a demented song! It's a demented song! but I tell you what, it's actually a perfect soundtrack for all of this. So, at the press conference, what did the guy say? The guy said that the Lullaby Project is gonna provide prenatal care for under privilege women. I say to myself, "Well, wait a minute. Huh, that sounds interesting. that sounds innocent and benevolent and kinda a good thing. But wait a minute. I did a little digging and I went to the Verdus website, and what did I find? Verdus is hosting a life extension panel

==Notes==
The website Jonas is referring to is [http://www.verduspharma.com VerdusPharma.com]

User talk:Jonpro/Xwestsidex

2007-11-02T21:56:11Z

64.81.108.2:

User talk:Jonpro

2007-11-02T21:55:22Z

64.81.108.2:

Hey, just saw that you've now made 200 edits. Thanks for all the hard work! You ought to put a little something on your user page.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 13:17, 13 December 2006 (CST)

==Categories==
That userbox was also made with you in mind. Glad you liked it! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:03, 17 February 2007 (CST)

== Redirects ==

Whoa, I didn't realize my moving the ceremony page would cause so many double redirects and such. Thanks for getting those! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:47, 18 February 2007 (CST)

:Why redirect the Strange Tag pages? Did I miss a discussion? <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 19:01, 7 March 2007 (CST)

::See [[:Category talk:Strange tags]]. My reasoning is that these pages are rarely updated and don't seem to serve any useful purpose. Do you disagree?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:51, 7 March 2007 (CST)

== Welcome... ==

... to the admin club. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:06, 8 March 2007 (CST)

== Beach Bum? ==
-- Well, Daniel's new video is up on Revver. I also had started the video thread for it.
(Also, when I get a new message like this, do I add it to the talk page of the User who sent it to me or what?)

:No problem. It happened yesterday too with "Sorry Jonas"--[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 5:08pm, 8 March 2007 (CST)

== Facility J ==
Thanks for letting me know about the history part. I'm a wiki noob, and there is much I don't know. One of our team members was working on a recap that wasn't full fleshed out yet. Also, I had set up several links with xxx's as markers for her to fill in the blanks. She had wanted to add some content, and didn't know how, so I was trying to teach her. Maybe this isn't good wiki protocol, I don't know, but It was the only way I could think to do it without doing it for her. Any way, I know your intentions are good. And I know the risks of being edited mercilessly, so it's all good :) - [[User: Luminous|Luminous]]

== Bot ==

How does the bot work exactly? Do you pick the pages it edits or does it find them automatically? --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:03, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

:Cool, thanks for the explanation. It looks like it's a real shame that we didn't think of doing this earlier! The whole lonelygirl15.com site has been really crawling for me. It seems to be faster now so I'll try to authorize it right now. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:34, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

::Okay, LGBot is now authorized. Its edits won't flood the recent changes window. The edits can still be reviewed at [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0&limit=100 recent changes with bots] and of course at [[Special:Contributions/LGBot]]. Thanks for getting this set up. Rock and roll. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:39, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

==bitsie==
hey, any reason you removed the external links?--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 01:53, 15 March 2007 (CDT)

== previous and next by ... ==

<nowiki>*looks at recent changes*</nowiki><br>
You know, this kind of stuff is exactly the reason there's a "bot" flag...
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:23, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

== Images ==
Thanks for the tip. I wondered how others could upload and categorize simultaneously! I'll cast my eyes over the various location pages some time... The little galleries in the discussion pages are a nod to the triple thumbnails you get on the "All Comments" sections on YouTube. It provides a nice header for a mostly textual page. Glad you like them. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:01, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

About the Bunker discussion page Missour Jonpro, I wanted the image to show; I did a screen capture. also, while i'm at it, i think i cought a good screen shot for "They seem a little rough... but they're not so bad". http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/Nieriel_Manwathiel/bree2.jpg
sorry; i need to learn how to do images!! --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== Contacting You ==

Hey, I was just wondering if there was some way I could contact you off the wiki? I've got some ideas on how to help you with things, etc. but I dont really want to have to deal with a billion back/forth public posts. So uh... I dont really know how to ask this without coming off as a stalker... but is there some other way to contact you? An AIM/MSN/YIM... or even an e-mail address? Something we could do more... "privately" and quickly. Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:21, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

:Yeah, when you're on my user page you can click on "E-mail this user" on the left menu. That will open up a form where you can send me an email. Really, though, if it's stuff related to the wiki, it's probably best to talk about it somewhere here. You can leave a message on my talk page or on the talk page of the article that you want to work on or at [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony]] or wherever. That's not to say I don't want you to email me (that's perfectly fine), but if it's something that other people might want to weigh in on, you should probably do it here.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 00:27, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

:: Ah okay no, I do know to generally contact publically. This was more related to some of the things I noticed you were personally working on and how I could help. I figured specifics might just take up other people's times :P So yeah, I'll send you an e-mail tommorow. Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:26, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

:::Ok, cool. Thanks.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 01:31, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

== Banning 205.188.116.* ==

JonPro, rather than banning each individual IP that he uses to vandelize with, how about banning the whole 205.188.116.* subnet. I don't think we have any other users that would block -[[User:Misty|misty]] 19:25, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

:Hmm, is that even possible? I'm not sure if it is. And even then, it's probably best to only block IPs that actually vandalize. It's not that hard to revert edits and block individual users.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:35, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

::Yes, you can ban ranges of IPs with *s. I've had to do it for some forums I run a couple of times. Normally I'd say to ban them individually.. but this person does seem to have some sort of vendetta against you.. maybe you should just ban the range? Just a thought :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:19, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

:::It's a tempting idea, but remember he's been using many different IPs, including many that are not in the 205 range at all. It's quite easy to use the internet through a proxy, although it does slow down your connection a lot. I think blocking IP ranges would not stop him, while still limiting access to honest people that won't understand why they can't edit. Jonpro rocks and no loser with a lame vendetta against him can change that. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:49, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

::::Ah, thanks OiC. I actually find this person kind of amusing. I can't think of many things more pathetic than picking on a person he doesn't even know over the Internet for no apparent reason. Anyway, good idea Misty, but I think OiC makes a good point.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 21:22, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

::::: Just being silly, sorry! --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 22:12, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
::::::gaw, we <3 Jonpro. May I say that you've handled this extremely professionally and have been very mature about it. I don't want to bring more attention to the issue than necessary, but that had to be said. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 23:29, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
==lost work ==
your little minor edit on the character redesign caused me to loose over a half hour of work, how do I prevent edit conflicts?

Thanks, that will be of help. I wish I knew of the inuse template before -[[User:Misty|misty]] 12:04, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

== Helping Out ==

OK, if you guys are happy with me helping out "whenever you can and that's all you can do" then I'm happy. Just give me some notice as to when you switch it on and some sort of tutorial on the new functions would be useful. Oh and thanks for the kind comments! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:40, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

== redesign ==

LOL: I just made the template. - I would like to make this universal. I think the bot could accomplsh that easily:
insert:
<nowiki>{{header|{{PAGENAME}}}} </nowiki>
at the top of each page, and replace
<nowiki>== <title> ==</nowiki>
with:
<nowiki>{{subheader|<title>}}</nowiki>
-[[User:Misty|misty]] 12:13, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

: I think it will look really good on the video pages, with a little work. check out Redesign test. it's a little beyond me to figure out how to fix the spacing problem but maybe you know what to do. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:15, 12 May 2007 (CDT)
Another problem that I just discovered: when I click on the edit link in the subheader tit brings up a blank edit box. before i turned it into a template it brought up the source in the edit box. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 21:25, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

== Your status update ==

Aw, Jon, I've been wondering where you went! Hope everything in your new "status" is a happy thing though. And uh, don't go totally vanishy on us... we neeeeed you xP. Hehe. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:17, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

:Awww, thanks Zoey. And yeah, everything's going good... it's more just that I won't be able to get on the computer as much as I used to. And no worries about me leaving completely, I'll always be hanging around and scanning [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] if nothing else. Anyway, I'm glad you think you need me, and the same right back to you :).--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 00:53, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

== Question for Miles ==

If we're supposed to conjure up a new design, it'd help to know the colorscheme they're going to use for KateModern.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:36, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

== Is it True ==

That lgpedia is looking for new admins. Not that i want it but there are people that i want to have that position. Such as Misty or SilverBullet. [[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 01:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

#I don't think your opinion alone is decisive for who's becoming an admin here and who doesn't.
#Zoey addressed your "nominations" on [[User talk:Houdini|your talk page]] already. The fact that you are trying to play one admin against another only gives them more reason ''not'' to trust your nominations.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 03:40, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

::I agree, Renegade. And I think Zoey summed it up pretty well on your talk page, Houdini. I suggest you read that.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:47, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

hey i didn't see that message until after i wrote this message
so renegade i am not trying to play them against eachother
and jonpro i saw it
and zoey i'm sorry

== KateModern Video Blog Template ==

On the template, because i don't know how to do this can you make it so that the forum links are KateModern forum links, because it links to the posts on Lg15's forum. - [[Houdini]]

:Okay, Houdini, relax please. There is a lot of stuff that needs changing over with the redesign, and it is being done as fast as we can manage. These things take time, as it is such a massive project, so just be patient and trust that we won't forget about anything. (And if we do, well, wait to make sure that we're actually DONE before pointing it out. If we are, THEN feel free to post your concerns.) But pointing out ALL of the things that need to be done atm = not helpful. Like I said, massive project, working on getting everything done as soon as we possibly can. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:39, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

== Lonelygirl15 Missions or Maybe another name ==

Hey i think i am going to start a missions page for lgpedia. All the missions for lg15. - [[Houdini]]

what i mean is like all the mission BDJ had to go through like capturing jules - [[houdini]]

==Bot==
Oh hey Jonpro I saw you made a bot for LG15Pedia I just wanted to know how did you make it?--[[User:LB15|LB15]] 19:13, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

== There i Put it on Lucy's Balcony ==

it is right here

http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy's_Balcony#Missions_Page

== This is Gunna Sound Stupid... ==

So i am getting the idea from two other sites so what. But i tried to talk to Zoey and also Lucy's Balcony and it barely got reactions. So i will try to go to you.

I really want LGPedia to have awards that users can hand out other users for different reasons. I got the idea from wikipedia with their barnstars and lostpedia with their awards. I think we should have the bree award, taylor award, and stuff like that. So lets just say renegade made a great edit then someone can give him an award for making a great edit. --[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:11, 28 July 2007 (CDT)
::I was going to do it myself, just wondering what you or the others thought of it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 12:39, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
==The Ceremony (ritual)==
Thanks very much, I posted on the discussion page to ask others if they liked it. Do you think it would be safe to take off the under construction tab or wait to ask Zoey first? She put it up.~[[user:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

== [[User:203.121.71.169]] ==

You don't seriously think that one is a real user, do you? If he wanted to spout random stuff about this "forum" somewhere, he'd do it on the talk page of the main page, and not in the archive of the talk page of the redesign of the main page.<br>
A normal user wouldn't even ''go'' there, and a user new enough to post how great this "forum" is probably wouldn't even ''find'' that page. Not to mention that the word "forum" in itself is a pretty good indicator it's an automated message.

And if reasonably analyzing it hasn't convinced you, come over here for a second and talk to my very good friend [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Great+forum!%22+%22I+found+a+lot+of+interesting+information+here.%22+%22Does+this+forum+helpful+for+you+also%3F%22&num=50&hl=en&safe=off&filter=0 Google].
:Sincerly,
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:48, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

== LGBot ==

So hotmail sucks, I just wanted to sure you had gotten my e-mail about LGBot? Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 19:08, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

User talk:Jonpro

2007-11-02T21:51:46Z

64.81.108.2: /* Westside */

Looking For Daniel

2007-11-02T20:22:37Z

64.81.108.2: revert

{{Blog
|name = Looking For Daniel
|number = 0124
|image = Video0124.jpg
|caption = I hope Daniel wasn't cut into little pieces and eaten by a cannibalistic mountain man!
|blogger = Bree
|date = January 29th, 2007
|url = {{lg15|164}}
|forumid = 5759
|description = Daniel never came back, so Jonas and I went to Pins and Pints to look for him. I really hope he's okay.
| location = [[General LA area|Los Angeles]], [[Minor locations#Pins and Pints|Pins and Pints]]
|length = 1:24
|tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko|pins|pints|hamster|bowling|missing|look|help|drive}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| directors = Mesh Flinders and Glenn Rubenstein
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders and Glenn Rubenstein
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Glenn Rubenstein
| editor = Kevin Schlanser
| song =
| cast =
{{VidChar|Bree}}
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| Previous = Daniel's Missing!
| Next = Sleepover
| NextB = The Cowboy
}}
{{EpHeader|124}} [[Bree]] and [[Jonas]] go searching for [[Daniel]], who still has not come back.

==Transcript==
(''Bree is in the passenger seat of Jonas's car while he drives'')

'''Bree:''' So, Daniel never showed up and...we got worried. We went over to the bowling alley where he was, you know, last seen.

(''Cut to moving shot of the road, and inside the bowling alley'')

'''Bree:''' (''voiceover'') I guess Daniel was drinking with this guy who comes in a lot. He's a local. The bartender said that Daniel left with him.

(''Cut back to Bree; the car is now parked'')

'''Bree:''' I just got a text from Daniel. It says, "no good." What does that mean? I tried calling him but... he didn't pick up. (''sighs'') At least I know that he's okay.

(''Cut to Jonas walking towards the camera across the parking lot'')

'''Bree:''' Any luck?

'''Jonas:''' A little.

(''Camera pans around parking lot, past a man with a white van. Bree and Jonas get back into the SUV. Cut to Bree; the car is moving again'')

'''Bree:''' We were gonna go home, but Jonas got the address from the bartender for where that guy lives. Where is it again?

'''Jonas:''' Uh... it's up in the mountains.

(''Bree gives a somewhat worried look to the camera and sighs. Music then plays over a montage of shots filmed out the car windows. It has begun to rain. Aside from the other cars, we see a person riding a bicycle on the side of the road and later a cross possibly on top of a church. Suddenly, the music and images stop, and there are several seconds of black.'')

==Notes==
* While Bree is waiting in the parking lot of the bowling alley, a man in a blue shirt standing by a white van can be seen in the background. He seems to be watching Bree and Jonas. Later, while they are on the road, a white van can be seen slightly ahead of them. (Pictured below)
* This video could not have actually been posted. According to their next video, Bree and Jonas arrived at a motel the evening this was posted and went to an Internet Cafe the next day.
* Some fans have suggested that Jonas's vagueness in answering Bree's questions is suspicious, while others have defended that he might not want to say certain things on camera, knowing that they may be followed. Either way, it seems likely that all that Bree says is hearsay from Jonas, as we never see her enter the bowling alley.
* Also, Daniel's disappearance could be reminding Jonas of his own parents' disappearance.
* Part of the final driving scene was filmed on the 101 Freeway in Woodland Hills, CA.
* The strange tag [[hamster]] has appeared, without explanation, in seven other Bree videos, one Jonas video and one OpAphid video.
* It is not clear who owns the cellphone. If it's Bree's, this is the first time that we have knowledge that she has a cellphone. It brings up the obvious question, [[Plot holes#Bree Has A Cell Phone|who's been paying her bills all these months her parents have been gone]]?
*Because the driving scenes were filmed on the 101 freeway in Woodland Hills, it is probable that the bowling alley is The Woodlake Lanes on Ventura Blvd. in Woodland Hills, CA
[[Image:Whitevan.jpg|thumb|left|Did the watcher uniform change?]]

[[Image:Looking For Daniel.JPG|thumb|left|Is Jonas following the white van?]]

Talk:List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

2007-10-30T20:19:15Z

64.81.108.2: /* "Safe for the Steal??" */

For older discussions see [[Talk:List of Lonelygirl15 videos/archive]].

== Adding Nikki Bower and Jules ==

Ok so it look like Nikki bower is clearly Canon now, as is Jules. Do they belong in this list? They aren't in the left colum yet, but I think that is an oversight by the webmaster, since they are a necessary part of the story -[[User:Misty|misty]] 09:35, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

:I doubt it's an oversight, more of a way to keep us guessing. I still think we should stick with our rule about videos being in the left column. If they both turn out to be canon, I'm sure they'll add the videos to the column.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 10:43, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

::Bree's mentioning [[Nikki Bower|Nikki]] and Nikki's exposure of Jules to be semi-reliable, I think that's at least the Creators' way of saying that Nikki is canon. As for Jules, she may not be the "new girl", but she IS a canon character... Nikki (supposedly canon) acknowledged her as the "ceremony girl" and Bree showed a screencap of her YouTube channel in [[New Girl]]. --[[User:SilverBULLETx3|SilverBULLETx3]] 16:58, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

:::When you wonder whether a certain video should be on this list, first ask yourself "Is this video on the lg15.com site, in the left hand column with the Bree videos?". That's your answer; those are the videos the c's deemed "required viewing". The first Oppy vid was apparently [not] considered important. As for the screencaps, they're just decorative, but if it bothers you that they include some non-required vids, we can change that too. Sorry if it's confusing. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 14:20, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
:::<sub>'''Note:'''I added "not" in my post because I wrote it out from the first time. Sorry to anyone who got thrown off by that. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:42, 25 April 2007 (CDT)</sub>

::::I'm sorry, OwenIsCool, but I disagree. "The first Oppy vid was apparently considered important." The first OpAphid video, [[You Made the Right Choice, Bree!]], was not on the left-hand column and was not deemed required viewing, and it is not on this list although IT IS a canon video. I think that all CANON videos should be on this list, and canon apparently now includes Nikki Bower and Jules, unless the Creators are just playing with our heads. Tachyon and Brother are CONFIRMED CANON characters from the Creators, even though they will not be on here anymore due to Glenn's firing... but Op is still on here! ...I stand my case. --[[User:72.77.92.54|72.77.92.54]] 15:45, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
:::::Whoa, there no need to get excited. Sorry, I meant that it was '''not''' considered important. That's why it was left out of the left-hand column of lg15.com, and that's why it's not on this list. I apologize for confusing you with my slip-up. This is really very simple. All we want to do with this page is replicate the left-hand column of videos on lg15.com. If you want to know why Nikki B, Jules, and Tachyon are not on there, please take it up with the Creators. It's not ''our'' call and I don't know how they determine what goes and what doesn't.

Ok , I want to revisit the whole issue of including only the videos in the left column. if you notice Bree's first video isn't in the left colume, but no one would say it doesn't belong in this list. I would like to see all canon videos in the list, including all the Nikki Bower, Jules and Taylor videos. And I think that we can decide that by concensus regardless of what the creators do on the homepage. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 00:39, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
:A couple of Bree's early videos are not on the left column because they are just not on Revver at all. This had to do with copyright issues and not whether the c's wanted them there. There's no question that all Bree videos should be there, the only reason we list them and the c's don't is because we can and they can't. It's a different issue with Oppy, Tachy, Nikki and Jules. They chose to leave those out, for their own reasons, and at LGPedia, we're just cataloging and organizing their stuff. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]]

::I still disagree, OIC. I would love to see Nikki, Jules, Taylor, Tachyon, and Brother videos on this list. Or maybe Tachyon and Brother are out of the picture due to Glenn's firing? But then I would vote for removing Op's videos. The Creators can do what they want on the left-hand column, but just because they do something on the main page, that doesn't mean it can't be on here. I agree with Misty on this issue, and would like to see it [[Talk:List of Lonelygirl15 videos/resolution|resolved]], so I am making a talk resolution page so we can figure out exactly what videos need to be on the list. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 11:13, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:I would just like to say that like Gemma and Jonas, Taylor's should probably be included (her pre-Canon ones) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 19:11, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, if I checked correctly, it appears that all the characters in question have been added except for Nikki B. I really think she should be added. It is extremely clear at this point that the videos have ties to the C's. They have also helped reveal a ton of secrets about the stories you cannot get in any other videos. They help bring a broader knowledge of LG15 to a viewer who is trying to catch up, but in a way that is intricately connected to the story (she was mentioned in a Bree video!) and to the people behind the stories ([[Alli Danziger]]).... Hm, I was thinking.. maybe this page shouldn't be a list ONLY of what the C's post on the main page.. but of the videos related to the series and that should be watched to fully experience the [[Breeniverse]]. Okay yeah. I need to stop making edits at 3 am :P Hopefully this is coherant.. I'd love your thoughts though!! {{unsigned|Zoey}}

:This is spectacular! I really like having a full list of canon videos instead of just repeating the information already on the front page.Anyways, I went through the list for completion and noticed that these videos weren't present. Now, granted, '''all''' of the following videos are pretty insignificant, but should they (as canon vids) be added to the list? Opinions on the following:
*[[Paytotheorderofofof vs. Dinosaur]], by [[Bree]] (May 24th, 2006)
*[[YouTubers Secret Language]], by [[Bree]] (May 26th, 2006)
*[[Misdirected. Lost Visual in the Burn Out]], by [[Brother]] (May 30th, 2006)
*[[Sparks Are Flying]], by [[Brother]] (May 30th, 2006)
*[[3-2-1 Contact]], by [[Brother]] (June 1st, 2006)
*[[Add Poe Hinder Vilification]], by [[War Pylol]] (August 6th, 2006)
:Of course, there are reasons why all of them have not been considered; Bree's first two videos were created essentially to gain an audience; Brother's first three videos were simply of fireworks; and Warpylol's video is less than one second long. On top of that, I still don't understand if Warpylol is canon (or was he a fan that took the side of OpAphid?). Anyways, these don't contribute much to the LG15 story, but if we're creating a 'complete' list... Should they be on there? My opinion is that the three Brother videos and the one by Warpylol should be included--but not Bree's first two. Opinions? --[[User:Rekidk|Rekidk]] 14:16, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
::I added the Warpylol video to the list. I tried adding the other five videos before, but the way the formatting works made it look very strange so I didn't save it. --[[User:FH14|FH14]]
::I added the first five videos with bullets. I guess it looks okay... what does everyone else think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 19:46 4 July 2007 (EST)
::: I think none of those belong, neither does the warypol video, for all the reasons Rekidk stated (up until "but if we're creating a 'complete' list..."). Also Waryplol is NOT cannon just like Maddie Atkins isn't, (even though NBR mentioned her). Since Rekidk apparently only conceded to having them, and there was no support for those edits, I think they should be removed for the moment, until there is clear support for them -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:21, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
::::I have no problems listing the pre-Bree vidoes on that page, as it is a list of all canon videos, and those are included in said list. Also, Warpylol was a character created by [[Glenn Rubenstein]] to be an official part [[OpAphid]], and therefore, I see the reasoning behind adding his videos as well. A deal was struck with [[Jeromy Barber]] and Glenn, incorporating this particular Op character into the [[Maddison Atkins]] storyline later, so any videos that take place with that series should not be included, however the ones where, for instance, Warpylol is revealing the location of [[Brother]] to Op, ''should'' be included, same as we have done for all the other Glenn-made characters in the series. Just my thoughts... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:14, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
:::::Agreed. Besides, Warpylol's video was included in the Brother's last video. He was also confirmed as a canon OpAphid Agent. Though is there a way to make it so the first videos can be listed normally without bullets? I tried formatting them like the others, but there was a huge gap between the section title and the videos because of the lack of a numbered video to build off of. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:40 6 July 2007 (EST)
::::::Fixed it. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 16:18 6 July 2007 (EST)

== the enormous size of this page ==

Okay, so I'm at a slower computer than I'm normally at, and I just loaded up this page. It took ''89'' seconds, a minute and a half, to finish loading. I dunno, I think that's sort of a problem. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:02, 11 May 2007 (CDT)
: I brought this up a while back on lucy's balcony. The easiest fix I can think of, would be to get rid of the video expand, but renegade put a lot of work into it, so I think he should have som e say in the matter. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 16:02, 11 May 2007 (CDT)
::I'm on a pretty fast computer and it takes about a minute to load every time. It gets on my nerves since I'm using IE and I would ''like'' it if we got rid of the video expand, but Renegade did put a lot of work into it. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:34, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

:::It's interesting it's taking that long for some of you. It only takes a few seconds for me, and I don't consider my computer to be extraordinarily fast.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 17:19, 11 May 2007 (CDT)
:::: the speed of the internet connection makes much more difference than the speed of the computer -[[User:Misty|misty]] 17:36, 11 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::I have Verizon FiOS which is supposed to be almost as fast as Comcast High Speed, and everything else loads super quick, but this page takes about a minute. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 11:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::well I don't want to step on renagades toes, but it seems we have concensus here to remove the video expand. if anyone come back with a complaint we can always revert. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 18:09, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
well it seems like this page still takes a really long time to load. who thinks we need to do another redesign that uses less images than the current montage. Perhaps 1 per story arc. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 00:00, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:I don't know . . . sure it occasionally take me a while to load (FYI, I do use IE) I like how the current list is roughly equal to the picture montage (It was actually kinda short, but someone just plugged in the Tachyon/Brother vids, so now its really close). --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:37, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:: if you look at the discussion below, you'll see that that's another problem, the montage doesn't is either too short in IE and Safari, or too long in Firefox and camino. so we have one more reason to get rid of it. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 10:43, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

:::I object to removing the montage. I think it gives a great overview of the story in picture form that we don't have anywhere else. I think it looks really good on the page. As far as the browser difficulties, perhaps there is a way to work around it. I would just hate to see the montage go for that reason.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 10:56, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: ok how about a more limited montage with fewer pics. I created it on [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos/redesign]] -[[User:Misty|misty]] 16:11, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I saw the redesign, and honestly the pictures there don't flow as well as they currently do. BDJ & Co. have been through A LOT in the past year, and I like how the current list reflects it as such. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:10, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: If you don't like the limited montage what is the alternative that you propose? -[[User:Misty|misty]] 22:10, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

::::: Now that the videxpand template was removed this page loads pretty fast for me. The alignment problems aren't fixed by switching to a single column montage, so we might as well keep the double column. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 22:42, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::: So do we have consensus that the speed is acceptable? The montage needs to be updated since the addition of the NBR videos, but before i do that I need to know we have consensus to keep it the way it is. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 00:39, 3 June 2007 (CDT)

== Line-Height problem ==

In order for this page to look right we need to keep the line-height the same in all browsers. I've trid to specify the line height in various ways, but I always get more pixels per line in gecko browsers (Firefox, Camino, etc) than I do in other browsers (Safari, IE, etc). Currently I have line-height specified at 20px. Does anyone know how to make the line height the same for all browsers?
:While there seems to be a known bug of sorts with IE and line-height (surprise!), are you sure, in this case, that it's not due to IE's different way of calculating height? 'cause, technically, I don't think the <li>s below each other count as a paragraph of text...they should be a bunch of formatted child objects of <ol>. Chances are that line-height would affect the line-height of the text written within the <li>s, i.e. not the space between the <li>s, but the space between multiple lines written within any particular <li>.

:...which, of course, creates a new problem: There is no use setting a fixed margin, 'cause [http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200612/internet_explorer_and_the_css_box_model/ IE renders the height differently] - you'd have to hack it (examples under the same link).

:That's my guess, anyway.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 07:36, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
:::In this case it's a Gecko bug.Currently the line spacing is set to match the montage on Gecko browsers, but be offf on every other browser. Should we change it to match the spacing of IE, Safari, and most other Browsers, or Keep it to match only the Gecko Browsers. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 10:11, 17 May 2007 (CDT)

::::How exactly is this a Gecko bug, or rather: What is bugged? What exactly does FF do differently than IE? Where do the extra pixels come from? (Maybe we can find a workaround.)
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:43, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::: gecko adds an extra pixel to text objects such as list items. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 00:49, 3 June 2007 (CDT)

Since it doesn't loook like there is a solution to the discrepensy, we need consensus for aligning to gecko browsers (Firefox, Camino, Seamonkey) or non gecko browsers (IE, Safari, Opera). Does anyone have an opinoion? -[[User:Misty|misty]] 00:49, 3 June 2007 (CDT)
=== fixed ===
ok after spending the whole weekend working on it I managed to make a version of this page that lined up the same in every browser. this is in complliance with the new Browser Neutrality Policy -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:35, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:Ooh, good job! When I view it, though, there is a lot of blank space around each of the images. I kind of prefered when the images were closer together, it made it look more like a collage. There seems to be a bit too much blank space now, IMO. Can this be fixed and still kept "browser neutral"? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:02, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:: Zoey, In all the browsers I tested it on, the Blank space was lerr than before. I can shrink it down more, but I'm curious how it looks on your browser, can you post a screenshot somewhere? -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:12, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

ok after spending 45 minutes googling it I managed to make a version of a single tag on this page that lined up everything the same in both browsers. this in in complliance with the goddamn idea that each pixel should have the same place in every browser ever coded into existence.

Oh, did I mention the page doesn't render correctly in lynx? Guess we'll have to strip it down to text-only...browser neutrality and all...
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:06, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:<small>Edit: Oh and for the record, Misty: It was ''not'' a Gecko-bug. If you compare revisions, the line height changed minimally for FF (purely because I guessed the value rather than calculating it), but changed dramatically for IE.</small>
::Renagade good job, that was a great find, but it only makes Gecko Browsers (FF,Camino,Epiphany, etc) and Trident Browsers( IE, AOL,etc) line up, but Webkit browsers (Safari,Omniweb,Swiftt, etc) don't. Before Safari and IE lined up. but FF didn't. So this is what happened. Gecko does add an extra pixel to list items, that Trident and Webkit don't. Trident accepts non-standard line-height 150% that Gecko and Webkit don't. so you compensated for a Gecko bug by exploiting a Trident bug, but now Webkit browsers which don't have either bug are not aligned. The reason I made the changes I did was that I started with Safari and Firefox, and tried to get rid of the extra pixel in FF, then only checked my when in IE when I was done, since i knew EI and safari had lined up before. So since you now made it so that IE and FF both have the extra pixel, can you find a way to get Safari to have it too? -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:16, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

== Clickable Pics ==

If no one objects, I think that each of those awesome pictures should redirect to the blog that they're from. (I found myself trying to navigate by clicking them...) I'm gonna start in on doing this. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 18:37, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

:I think that's a good idea. We've been doing that with other pages like [[Notable Details]] so it makes sense to do it here too.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]]
:: go for it -[[User:Misty|misty]] 18:24, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

:Please do, I don't know how many times I've tried to click them. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 02:14, 3 June 2007 (CDT)

== story Arcs ==

I reverted the Bree Poster child heading because the story is really in the same arc as when Bree surrendered, the fact that she appeared on an order video didn't shift the direction of the story: we are still resolving the events of her surrender. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 18:24, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

=== "Getting Bree Back" ===

I would vote that this "arc" title be changed, as they didn't really effectively get her back. "The Rescue Attempt" or something like it might be better, IMO. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 02:21, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
:Maybe "Wanting Bree" to describe how they wanted her back as well as the now-clear feelings Jonas has for Bree? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:24, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
::"Wanting Bree Back", perhaps?--[[user:jeans|jeans]] 23 June 2007
::: it's not important whether they actually succeeded, the arc is about trying to get Bree back, so the title is appropriate. of course if someone could come up with a more interesting title for the arc I'd support changing it. Wanting Bree, and "Wanting bree back" are Lame titles. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 20:08, 1 July 2007 (CDT)
::::Ouch, misty, there's no need to insult people. If you don't like something, say so, but please do so in a kinder fashion. What about "Found and Lost" (kind of a play on Lost and Found)? I also like Jbshryne's "The Rescue Attempt". I agree that "Getting Bree Back" doesn't quite fit, because she's never truly "back" at any point in the arc. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 12:48, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
:::::I like both JBshryne and Truncatedslinky's ideas.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::: I wasn't trying to be insulting, but I think that,there needs to be a sense of style around here, and it seems sometimes that means being less literal, also in TV a story arc, is describe by the focus of the recurring theme, and not on the outcome. For example the story Arc for this years season of {{Template:Wikipedia|Doctor_Who|Doctor Who}} is still called {{Template:Wikipedia|Story_arcs_in_Doctor_Who#Mr_Saxon|Mr_Saxon}}, even though we discover in the end, that Mr Saxon was really the Doctors Nemesis {{Template:Wikipedia|Master_%28Doctor_Who%29|The Master}}-[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:47, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

=== The Gilman Files ===
Let's change the name from "In search of the Gilmans , to The Gilman Files. We already have the search for Jules, and it wouldn't be very creative to have a bunce of search for [xxx], titles. The Gilman Files, kind of has a feel like kind the X-files, and is very fitting for this arc. Any objections? -[[User:Misty|misty]] 12:42, 7 July 2007 (CDT)
:Sounds pretty cool, and since the goal is to find a cure for Bree using a certain compound formula (and not just finding a new buddy), it sounds great. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 13:02, 7 July 2007 (CDT)

=== The Documents ===
Should we change "The Trait Negative Papers" to The Documents? Or something like "Spencer Reaches Out" or something like that? Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:53, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
:I put that in as sort of a place holder, until we really find out where this arc goes. I considered something with "documents", but I thought it was kind of too similar sounding to "files", which is now in the previous arc's title. I like the idea of including Spencer in the title. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 23:24, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
:: I don't see jhow this is a new story arc, we are still dealing with the same thing, i suspect , tat the are about to figure what the way to mae Breee trit negative is, then we can start a new story arc. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 00:13, 13 July 2007 (CDT)

=== Mourning Over Bree ===
I seriously think that Mourning OVER Bree would work as a better story arc. I'll change it as soon as I get the okay from someone. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|3:31 PM}}
:Hmmm . . . it's a good idea, especially as "Mourning Bree" could lead to the false idea that it's Bree who's mourning. But personally I don't mind either way. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:44, 7 August 2007 (CDT)

== KateModern Vids ==

Should we add [[KateModern]] videos to this list or will we make a page called [[List of KateModern videos]]?
:Given that we were expressedly asked to make changes to the LGPedia to seperate LGPedia from a KMPedia, I think it'd be contraproductive to put the videos on the same list.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:25, 13 July 2007 (CDT)

== Season 2 ==

I think when season 2 starts we should move the current page to List of Lonelygirl15 videos/season1 and ut a list on a new list of videos page for season 2. the page would look the same but we would the list and the montage from the first seaon 2 video. What does everyone think -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:I really like that idea.--[[user:jeans|jeans]] 03:26, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
::No, that would make it too complicated to get to Season 2 videos. Especially since this main page is linked to on the navigation sidebar. I think that we should just separate this page into a Season 1 section and a Season 2 section. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:27, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:i think that's a good idea; i was just thinking of it myself. the list is already too long, and any way to shorten it and organize it better would be worth the effort. --[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 23:02, 14 August 2007 (CDT)

::the list is kinda daunting. i think we might put only current season vids on this page, and convert the old season info into a season one list page, with prominent linkage available from the top of the current season page? Just a thought. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 01:04, 15 August 2007 (CDT)

:Judging by the issues we're about to have with the Initials [[Template talk:Init#A future problem|(talked about here)]], we may have to finally split this page into two (sigh) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:14, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
::Okay, Zoey just created List of Lonelygirl15 videos/season1 & List of Lonelygirl15 videos/season2. Discuss! :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

:::Wtf? The latest season should stay on the root page. -_^
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
::Hmm, good point . . . I forgot to mention that the pages I posted above are merely beta-pages in testing. Still, I do think current season vids would get the proper spotlight. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 12:17, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

:::looks good to me, and i agree season 2 should be the root page. it would be cool if we had a "season one" and "season two" graphic to put near the top as well. just a thought, not something i can do. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 13:00, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

::::I would've "prettified" it anyway...I was thinking something along the lines of "Season 1 →" & "← Season 2", if you know what I mean.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:26, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
::(my attempt to understand, sorry if I'm being slow), you mean you want two video columns? If so, how do you keep the video montage??--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 13:33, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

::::::Your indention is lacking.
::::::No, I ment I'd put "Season X [Arrow]" links on the top and bottom of the respective season pages, instead of this rather boring notice.
:::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:15, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

Sorry, I guess I should clarify that season2 was intended to go on the current "main page" of videos, I just didn't want to put it up until we had the okay. It sounds like we've got the okay though? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:06, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

== This needs to be rolled back. Quickly. ==

Just leaving a note here to catch those who usually don't visit the balcony.
Please refer to [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony#Browser neutrality or Official Browser|my comment there]].

The listing is simply ''wrong'' the way it is now. (''And'' butt-ugly.)
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 03:25, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

Ok I rolled it back so we can discuss it more. But it totally can't see your objection. What about it is Butt-ugly? It looks almost the same except the line numbers and the vertical spacing. The font face and the font size is identical to before, the general layout hasn't changed. True, the TOC uses stars instead of boxes, and the recently added horizontal line under is gone, but besides that, it's the same. [http://lorem.us/kira/lov.jpg screenshot] -[[User:Misty|misty]] 05:57, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

Renagade is just being bully, there is no reason to roll this back. It looks much better the way you did it and Zoey like it. What more do we need? {{unsigned|203.22.204.187}}

:Nice try to destroy my link there to distort my argumentation, so nobody sees how I made quite clear ''the neutral version is factually wrong.''
:Also, posting unsigned doesn't add any weight to your opinion, sockpuppet.
:As for "what more do we need?" - Factual accuracy, maintainable code, and visual appeal.
:[[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony#Browser neutrality or Official Browser|'''Link to argumentation restored.''']]
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:00, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Whoever 203.22.204.187 is, I don't think they deliberately meant to destroy your link. It just seems that all their edits result in apostrophe characters, " ' ", being replaced with " \' " automatically. This affected other comments on this page too which I have reverted. I'm not convinced anyone is trying to distort your argument using a sockpuppet, but I'll keep an eye on it. Please don't rush to accuse. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 16:36, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Renumbering ==

Okay, it seems that with the site upgrade came new numbering for these videos. It's not a huge deal, but the numbers are inconsistent with the left-hand side of the lonelygirl15 site, and it shouldn't take too much work to fix them. I guess I'll go ahead and see if I can get that done now.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:48, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

:On second thought, I'm going to wait a little bit, to see if there are any objections. I always hate when people do things like this without asking first, so I'll give it until morning I think (unless someone beats me to it).--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:50, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::From what I've seen so far of the new list, the new numbers are only there because they don't recognize the "potential-right-infingement" videos like ''Dorkiness Prevails''. The new list acts as if ''Purple Monkey'' was the first video when it wasn't. If I remember correctly, the old Revver version actually skipped those respective video numbers. I say don't change and just have a note at the top that explains the issue.--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:56, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::Hi, maybe we can list videos that aren't listed on the official site, but don't give them a number? And also, videos such as the Cassie ones have their own number now, the list should be changed to reflect that? I don't have any objections, I was about to do the same when I saw the lists were inconsistent with eachother :) [[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 05:09, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

== Remember me?==

Should that really be in the list of lonelygirl15 videos for season two? I mean, OpAphid isn't even a part of lonelygirl15 anymore, That video is a part of The Madison Atkins ARG series. So ... i don't really know if it should be listed here.

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 23:58, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
:The pre-canon OpAphid videos are on this list, and I assume that post-canon videos should be on here as well. I'd say it's safe to put [[Remember Me?]] on the video list, but not as an official video. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 19:40, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

::pre-canon OpAphid vids were incorporated into official canon through the decision to make OpAphid official; by now, OpAphid has officially been declared ''unofficial'', so the post-canon vids are no different from any other fanfic, whereas pre-canon vids have the same status as [[My Name Is Jonas]], for example - they do not fall within the "canon period" of the character, but they provide the background of the canon-story. They are canon, but not part of the storyline.

::I might add that this is not just my personal opinion, but [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=List_of_Lonelygirl15_videos&diff=prev&oldid=65063 Zoey's official decree].
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:44, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
::::I see your (& Zoey's) point. Thanks for the info! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 23:39, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

== Renumbering issue ==

I indeed have an issue with the renumbering. Pre-canon OpAphid videos have a number, but official LG15 ones don't? I'd say that the Creators are just having a hard time programming the new site. Surely this couldn't be what they meant to do. These edits need to be reverted, unless anyone disagrees with me? This is urgent; I can't stand to see the LG LoV like this. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 19:45, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

:I have reverted the renumbering for now, on the basis that a) I could find no reference where the new numbers are coming from, and b) such a change forces us to update a large number of video pages (magnitude depending on where the numbers start to change), so it needs to be discussed before a decision is made.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:35, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
:::I think the creators know what they're doing with the videos, and if they want to give certain videos numbers, then so be it. But whatever, what does my opinion matter. [[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]]

::::The problem is not your opinion, the problem is you started renumbering from episode one onwards - that means, with your numbering, we'd have to ''manually update over 260 video pages''.
::::That's a too big decision to have one person make it alone in a quick edit.
::::Not to mention that, given the incompetence shown during the site restructuring, I wouldn't be so sure about the Creators knowing what they're doing.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:55, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==Taylor==
I really think there should be atleast one picture of Taylor on this page since she has appeared in this season. I didn't want to do it myself since it's such a major page but I was thinking maybe the one from [[Gross Guy]] since she looks so darn cute in it. Anyway, kind of looks like a job for [[user:Zoey|Zoey]] to me!~[[user:Nancypants|Nancypants]]
:I'm sure a picture of Taylor will end up on the page eventually but I don't think there have been any stand-out pics of her so far this season. Doesn't she look a bit blank rather than cute in the loo pic? However, if everyone insists then maybe I can remove [[Image:0270-EmmaSmilingOnBed.jpg|60px]], move all the others below up one place and then add [[Image:0279-TaylorOnTheLoo.JPG|60px]] & [[Image:0286-EmmaHappy.jpg|50px]] to the end. (I prefer the Emma Happy pic to the Emma Smiling pic. Her face is better lit.) [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 20:49, 20 September 2007 (CDT)

I agree, I like Emma Happy more than Emma Smiling as well. Personally that pic of Taylor is my favorite, but maybe we can put it up for now and hope for a better one? It's really up to you admin guys, just wanted to throw out a suggestion :). ~[[user:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

== "Safe for the Steal??" ==

I don't know what that means. Is there some pun I'm missing? If not, I propose a less confusing title for this story arc... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 23:59, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
:As per usual, I agree with [[User:Jbshryne|JB]], I don't understand it either. ~[[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]
::It refers to Sonia, Daniel, and Jonas stealing the trait positive Ceremony Baby from the adoptive HoO couple. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:04, 27 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Hmm, well I'm glad it's changed anyway. [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]

Theories About Characters

2007-10-30T00:18:33Z

64.81.108.2: /* Emma */

This page is used to post your theories about [[characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

==lonelygirl15==

===Bree===
*Her full name is [[Bree|Bree Avery]] because her father's name is [[Bree's parents|Drew Avery]]. (proven)
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*Bree isn't actually dead.
*Bree is not dead, but will not be returning.
*The Order didn't kill Bree, they made it look like she died so Daniel and Jonas would stop chasing her.
*Bree may be [[Kate]]'s biological sister.
*Bree was pregnant when she died
*Bree is in the mountains near Sedona.

===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for the order.
*Daniel was in love with Bree. (proven)
*Daniel will fall in love with Sarah.

===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*The Order performed Bree's ceremony incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die. (disproven)
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill Jonas as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.

===Jonas===
*[[Jonas]] will become depressed after losing Bree and kill himself. (disproved)
*Jonas will tell Emma about his adventures with Bree and Daniel and they will fight the Order.(disproved, she found out by watching the LG15 series)
*Jonas will become brainwashed by the Order.

===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by the Order.
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She is a [[Watcher]]. (disproved)
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down the Order.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract Spencer Gilman.
*Taylor will no longer appear.

===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by the Order.
*Sarah is jealous of Bree. (proven)
*Sarah is not related to Taylor by blood.
*Sarah, as a plant by the Order, is present to distract Daniel from the task of locating Bree. (immaterial)
*Sarah texted the Watchers in the Season 1 Finale.
*Sarah loves Daniel. (proven)
*She is trait positive and the creepy guy is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant.
*Sarah is using the serum on herself. (disproved)
*Sarah has destroyed the serum. (disproved)
*Sarah says she is dating multiple guys to make Daniel jealous.
*Sarah has more than a 'passing interest' in Emma
*She hasn't really been injecting Emma with the serum, just a decoy.

===Bree's Mom===
*[[Bree's parents|Bree's mom]] is working against Bree's best interests.
*She is, or is working for, [[OpAphid]].(disproved: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Bree's mother married Drew Avery as a command from [[The Order]].
*Bree's mother is part of [[The Resistance]].

===Drew Avery===
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of the Order.
*He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
*He died because he tried to make Bree trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]). (proven)

===Alex===
*[[Alex|She]] is torn between her loyalty to her religion and her loyalty to her [[Jonas|nephew]].
*Alex has done the Ceremony. (disproved)
*She is still with the Order and gave Daniel a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample, she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*She is the one who put the messages in Bree's videos. (proven)
*Alex and Lucy are biological sisters

===Jonas' Parents===
*[[Jonas's parents|They]] are in hiding. (Proven)
*They are brainwashed by the Order. (proven)
*They will be found by Alex and help the Resistance.
*They are Bree's real parents. (That would be pretty disgusting given the circumstances)
*They are dead. (disproved)
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]] (proven)
*Jonas' mom is the nurse that helped perform Bree's ceremony.
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.

===Jules===
*[[Jules]] is not the [[New Girl|new girl]]. (proven)
*Jules was a plant by the Order to get Bree. (proven)
*Jules is putting the messages in Bree's blogs. (disproved)
*While Jonas is with Taylor, Julia will come and help them contact Spencer Gilman. (disproved)
*Jules is dead.

===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of the Order. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is Tachyon, and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-OpAphid, through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.

===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] is OpAphid or working for them.(disproved: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Lucy did the Ceremony. (Disproved)
*Lucy did not have knowledge of the Ceremony, and was therefore unable to answer Bree's questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help DJE.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of the Resistance.
*The Mistress knows Bree.
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
*The Mistress is in the Order and killed Isaac Gilman.
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
*The Mistress is Jonas' biological mother.(disproved)

===Rebecca===
*Rebecca is the girl in the photograph with Lucy seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]].
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on Bree for OpAphid.

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*Beth is the mole in [[Deep Throat]] (proven)
*The "rock star" was also a guest of Charlie's birthday party.
*Bree's Real Parents were at the party.

===Bree's Biological Parents===
*Bree's biological parents are Jonas' parents. (Let's hope, under the circumstances, that this is not true.)
*They died and the Order took Bree.
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for the Resistance.
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]], this would also mean that Bree and Jonas are biological brother and sister.

===Isaac Gilman===
*[[Isaac Gilman]] was Bree's real father.
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing Bree's dad was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
*He is the specialist who faked his death in Kate Modern. (disproved)

===Spencer Gilman===
*[[Spencer]] is Bree's brother.
*Spencer is a plant by the order.
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for Daniel and Jonas: save the other ceremony girls.
*Spencer will see KateModern and attempt to break back into the Wyman Foundation and steal Kate's blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*Spencer will no longer appear.(Proven:His name is on the list of [[Characters | Former Characters ]].)
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative. (disproved)
*Spencer and Taylor will eventually end up together
*Spencer will appear in KateModern

===Nikki Bower===
*[[Nikki Bower|She]] will find where Bree is being kept and be brainwashed by the HoO. (disproved)
*Alternatively, OpAphid will kill her. (disproved, the creators (including Nikki Bower creator, Amanda Goodfried) cannot legally use OpAphid in their storyline)
*She is [[LaRezisto]]. (Disproved)
*She is [[trait positive]]

===The Watchers===
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting BDJ, not trying to kidnap them. (Proven)

===Shadows===
*[[Shadows]] and Watchers are against each other within the HoO. (Proven i.e. laRezisto vs. Watcher)

===LaRezisto===
*[[LaRezisto]] will contact Daniel and Jonas and together they will get over their feelings for Bree and save the other girls. (partially proven, he has contacted Jonas)
*LaRezisto is Sophie. (disproved)
*LaResisto is Cassie. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is actually the Order.(proven)
*LaRezisto is Scott. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Bree coming back from the dead. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Nikki B. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Paul and/or Andrea (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Jonas.(disproved)
*LaRezisto is/are Jonas' parents trying to goad him into saving more girls. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is working against [[TAAG]]. (proven)
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of Daniel's house. He was responsible for Deep Throat and for Alex's betrayal of the Order. When Bree returned to the Hymn Of One unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Deep Throat/Alex. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Bree's adoptive father, and he didn't die from the gun shot. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Spencer. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Lucy. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Sonia. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is the Watcher from [[Robbing the Cradle]] (disproved)
*LaRezisto is the shooter from [[Dudley did it!]] (disproved)
*LaRezisto isn't a single person, it is a group similar to the Order, with members all over the world. (disproved)

===Scott===
*[[Scott]] will convince Sarah to rejoin TAAG to save Emma.(disproved)
*Scott is the [[Gross Guy]].
*Scott is the [[Watcher]] in [[Stakeout... With A Girl]] that told [[Jonas]] the truth about [[LaRezisto]] (Disproved)
*Scott was written out of the show.

===Emma===
*[[Emma]] is trait positive. (proven)
*She is not Jonas' parent's biological daughter and therefore, not Jonas' biological sister. (proven)
*She is oblivious to her parent's Hymn of One activities. (disproved)
*Jonas and Daniel will save her from doing the ceremony. (proven)
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for the ceremony.
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood, especially the Elders. (disproved)
*She was abducted as a baby (Dr. Griffin explains in [[Dr. Weirdo]] that as a rule, trait positive girls are abducted as babies).
*She was adopted by Jonas' parents around age 9 (Jonas' parents disappeared 6 years ago and Emma is now around age 15). (Proven)
*She took Purple Monkey and the other stuffed friends with her when she left.
*She is using double talk in her videos.

===Mallory===
*The flickr account is [[Mallory]]'s. (disproved)
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls. (disproved. She seen the videos, but continues to not want Daniel to go & fight)
*Mallory is a plant by the order.
*Mallory is trait positive.
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.
*Mallory will break up with Daniel because of Sarah.

===Purple Monkey===
'''Warning! This section really does contains humor. If it's hard for you to deal with that, please [[Special:Random|move along.]]'''
*[[Purple Monkey]] is [[trait positive]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey is [[LaRezisto]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey will give himself up to protect [[TAAG]]. (PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey is awesome! (Disproved!)
*Purple Monkey was a plant by the [[order]].
*Purple Monkey is a reversible hand puppet
*Purple Monkey was made in China(PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey will be lost, and found by [[Kate]]
*[[Purple Monkey]] killed [[Gemma]] as revenge for [[Don't Trust The Authorities|insulting him]].
*Purple Monkey's real name is [[Kate]]

== KateModern ==

===Kate===
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from someone, possibly the Order. The order is the connection to lg15.
*Kate was a Ceremony girl. (disproved)
*Kate is [[Cassie]]. (disproved: her name is Genevieve)
*Kate is [[Tachyon]]. (disproved: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Kate is Trait Positive. (proven)
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*Kate is Lucy. (disproved)
*Kate will join the HoO and Gavin, Tariq, and Charlie will try to save her.
*The same people that kidnapped Jonas, Daniel & Bree in Las Vegas and wiped their memories did the same to Kate (disproved)
*Kate is a parallel character to Bree.
*Kate and Bree are twins. (Disproved: Kate is 19 while at the time of her death Bree was only 17)
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister.
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution. (disproved though she stayed in a hospital for a month because of her dreams.)
*The people that wiped Jonas' parents' memories did the same to Kate.
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Kate is possibly suffering from DID resulting in her loss of memories
*Kate's real name is Elizabeth (disproved)
*Kate's real name is Rose (disproved)
*Kate's real name is [[Bree]] (disproved)
*Kate's real name is [[Claire]] (disproved)
*Kate's real name is Genevieve (proven)
*Kate will appear in lonelygirl15.
*Kate killed Dudley. (proven)
*Kate really is going to America to study art with [[Michelle Clore]]
*Kate's body is being harvested for Michelle Clore to transfer into.

===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of the Order.
*Charlie is Tariq's ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is dating Gavin. (proven)
*Charlie is Gemma's ex-flatmate
*Charlie is Gemma's sister
*Charlie was once pregnant and lost the baby through miscarriage, abortion, or adoption.
*Charlie is a parallel character to Daniel and Taylor.
*Charlie's sister and niece are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much.(disproved:Charlie put one message in her video "[[Tell Kim I Love Her]]",to tell her niece that Charlie loves her .)
*Charlie is a parallel character to Sarah.
*Charlie is working for the HoO or, possibly, the Order.
*Charlie had a falling out with her family and can't return home. This is why she always talks about how she wishes she could go home.

===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.(disproved)
*Gavin will see the lg15 videos and ask Jonas for a loan. (disproved)
*Gavin is a member of the HofO or the Order.
*Gavin is a member of the Resistance.
*Gavin is a parallel character to Jonas, which could mean that he also has connections to the Order.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate.

===Tariq===
*[[Tariq]] has watched [[lonelygirl15]], and has heard of [[the Order]]. He will be the connection between [[Kate]], [[Charlie]], [[Gavin]], himself, and [[Daniel]], [[Sarah]], [[Taylor]], [[Jonas]], and [[Spencer]] (and possibly [[Bree]]). (disproved: he watched the videos, but only after finding the HoO pamphlet.)
*The Order will kidnap Tariq because he researched the Hymn of One after finding the pamphlet.
* Tariq is a parallel character to Daniel.
* Tariq's date will have some connection to HoO/The Order

===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of the Order
*He's a Watcher. (disproved)
*He is Carl (disproved).
*Steve is a parallel character to [[Alex]]. (PROVEN!!!)
*He will use his inside knowledge to help Kate and her friends.

===Aunt Joan===
*Aunt Joan is related to Jonas.
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with Nikki Bower.

===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and Spencer are half brothers.
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are parallel characters.
*[[The Mistress]] is his mother.
*He is [[LaRezisto]]. (disproved)
*He will die(proven)
*He is dead (PROVEN!)

===Dr. William Griffin===
*He is the Rogue Elder Larezisto works for. (Disproven)

===Michelle Clore===
*[[Michelle Clore]] is in the Order. (Proven)
*[[Michelle Clore]] is an Elder. (Proven)
*Her bodyguards are actually [[Watchers]]. (Proven)
*Her touch "burned" Kate somehow. (disproved, Kate saw "flashes of dreams when she was touched.")
*She is the woman from [[Awful Dream]].
*Michelle Clore is the Rogue Elder. (Disproved)
*Michelle Clore is preparing to steal Kate's body and youth.

===Julia===
*[[Julia (katemodern)|Julia]] is in [[The Order]]
*Julia works at the Orange Retail Store, which has some connection to the [[Orange Slurpee|Orange Slurpees of Evil]] (PROVEN!!)
*Julia is a parallel character to Mallory

===Kim===
*She is [[Charlie]]'s daughter.

===Lee===
*Lee is a parallel character to Spencer
*Lee is a plant by the Order

== See Also ==
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

What Happened?

2007-10-26T21:33:27Z

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{{EpHeader|332}} For official episode 2x28, see [[What Happened???]]; for the fanvideo by [[LucaSambuca87]], see [[What Happened]].

==Transcript==

(''Emma is sitting in front of a light colored wall. A clock can be heard ticking in the background.'')

'''Emma:''' So, um, I want to tell you guys that--

(''A door opens and closes, footsteps are heard. Emma's father puts his hand on Emma's shoulder.'')

'''Father:''' Tell us what happened, Emma. We want to hear everything.

'''Emma:''' Okay. (''crying'') Um...

(''Cut to clip of Jonas, Daniel and Sarah trapped in the room.'')

'''Daniel:''' Jonas! (''indistinct'') to brace this. Sarah, help him! Help him!

'''Sarah:''' Okay!

'''Daniel:''' Hurry up, man! I can't hold them!

'''Jonas:''' Wait a minute, I think I found something!

'''Daniel:''' What?

'''Jonas:''' There's a door! Come here!

'''Daniel:''' They're coming through! Hurry up!

'''Jonas:''' I think there's a passage! It goes through to some way out!

(''Cut to a dark passageway. Jonas lights a lighter.'')

'''Jonas:''' Is everyone okay?

'''Sarah:''' Where are we?

'''Daniel:''' I think it's some sort of secret passage.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. No, you're right. It is. At that party, when we were kids, we played in these things. They go everywhere.

'''Sarah:''' Do you think they're gonna find us?

'''Jonas:''' I don't know. They... there's some stairs around here somewhere.

'''Daniel:''' C'mon man, lead the way. Let's go.

(''Sarah, Daniel, and Jonas jump down out of an opening in the ceiling. Daniel takes a gun and aims it down another staircase. Jonas takes another gun and holds it ready.'')

'''Jonas:''' (''to Sarah'') You okay?

'''Sarah:''' Yeah. (''they enter another room'') Sorry.

'''Jonas:''' (''trying door'') It's locked. (''footsteps are heard'') I think someone's coming.

'''Sarah:''' Oh, [[Four-letter words|shit]].

'''Jonas:''' Go, go, go, go. Quick, go!

'''Sarah:''' Fuck.

(''They all go into a closet and leave the door slightly open. Claire and [[LaRezisto]], the rogue [[Elder]], come into the room.'')

'''Claire:''' No, no... can we do it another night? I just don't feel that she's ready yet.

'''Elder:''' Her ribosomes are up at trait positive levels. Of course, she's ''ready''.

'''Claire:''' What I meant was I don't think she's ready psychologically - spiritually. I just need some more time for the preparation.

'''Elder:''' Claire, we don't have to pretend anymore that we're here for some spiritual purpose. No one from the [[Hymn of One]] is listening.

'''Claire:''' I'm from the Hymn of One! I just don't want to do it if it's not perfect!

'''Elder:''' Look, I am dying here.

'''Claire:''' (Sadly) I know

'''Elder:''' I know on the outside I ''look'' like I am all right, but my organs are aging. My liver, my kidneys are nearly 90 years old. I don't have much time left. Well, let's go down there and check the equipment, make sure it's ready for the transfusion. And then you go get her. (mockingly) And you say a little prayer and then off with her. (''The Elder walks Off. Claire sighs and gets up and leaves the room'')

'''Sarah''' (Whispers) Are you sure they're gone?

'''Jonas:''' Sh! (''[[TAAG]] leave closet. Jonas points gun toward where Claire and the Elder left through. He tries to open a door on the other side'') Emma?

(''They leave room, with Jonas in the lead holding a gun'')

'''Daniel:''' Be careful, man.

(''Emma is humming and Jonas sees her in a chair, with her arm hand cuffed to the chair. They hug.'')

'''Jonas:''' Hey! (''they whisper'') Listen, we don't have much time. I'm gonna have to shoot this off, all right? It's gonna be loud, but it's gonna be okay, okay? Just--just--clo--turn your head. Turn your head. One, two, three!

(''Jonas manages to blow off the hand cuffs and Claire hits Jonas in the head, causing him fall back'')

'''Emma:''' No!

'''Elder:''' Put your gun down!

'''Sarah:''' Daniel, put it down.

'''Claire:''' Put it down!

'''Daniel:''' Fine.

(''places gun on a small table'')

'''Elder:''' The most important thing is restoring the Order. And without us, yes, it'd all be lost. (''pans to Claire pointing the gun at TAAG.'') My colleagues, they're--they're not like me. They--they don't have the stomach for this kind of work. I do. Now, Claire. Get rid of 'em. Let's get on with this.

'''Daniel:''' Wait! Who the fuck are you?

'''Emma:''' (''with gun held to her head by Claire'') No, Claire. Please, don't you do this!

'''Elder:''' Claire, show these ingrids who I am.

'''Emma:''' Don't, don't. Please.

(''Claire swings the gun frantically at TAAG'')

'''Jonas:''' Claire! Clair, Claire. Please don't you do this! You don't have to do this!

(''Claire spins to her left and shoots the Elder. She drags Emma towards her.'')

'''Jonas:''' Shit!

'''Emma:''' What are you doing?

'''Claire:''' (''sobbing'') Sorry! I'm sorry!

'''Jonas:''' We forgive you! We'll forgive you! It's okay!

'''Daniel:''' Claire, don't let her. Please don't let her.

(''A shot is heard and Claire goes down. Virgil walks into the room, holding a gun with both hands.'')

'''Jonas:''' Emma, come here!

'''Virgil:''' Get out of here.

(''camera shows Claire, with a gun wound to her head and the Elder a with a gun wound on his chest.'')

'''Virgil:''' I said get out of here!

'''Daniel:''' Sarah, come on. Let's go. Jonas, get out of here. Come on, go. Go!

(''Jonas, holding Emma's hand, leads TAAG out. Scene returns to Emma in a white room, her dad at her side. Emma sniffles'')

'''Father:''' And then?

'''Emma:''' And then Jonas brought me back to you. I'm really sorry for this, dad.

'''Father:''' No, no! This isn't your fault, honey. Kay? (''kisses her on the cheek'') None of this is your fault.

(''Emma's mother goes to her side'')

'''Mother:''' You're safe now, Emma. You're with us. You're safe. We won't let anyone hurt you. I promise.

'''Emma:''' Yeah, but what about Jonas?

'''Father:''' No. Jonas is not gonna bother you ever again.

'''Mother:''' We won't let that happen.

'''Father:''' We love you so much.

'''Emma:''' I love you, too.

'''Mother:''' I'm so glad you're home.

'''Emma:''' Me, too.

==Notes==
*Many fans suspect that Emma's Dad is an Elder from the Order.
*It is unclear at this point why Emma has TAAG's footage.

Ted McKinley

2007-10-26T19:29:01Z

64.81.108.2:

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Breeniverse Timeline

2007-10-24T22:29:36Z

64.81.108.2: /* October */

==Before YouTube==

:'''May 25th, 1799 ''' - Napoleon's troops, along with artist Vivant Denon reach [[Denderah]]. Denon makes sketches of the Zodiac.

:'''October 12th, 1875''' - [[Aleister Crowley]] is born.

:'''1943''' - According to Daniel in his video [[Aleister Crowley (Video)|Aleister Crowley]] a girl is [[1943 abduction|kidnapped]] in Arizona, and Crowley may have been involved.

:'''1980s''' - Bree's mother meets Gemma's mother in Edinburgh at university. Bree's parents meet at a showing of [[Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead]].

:'''1987''' - [[Gemma]] and [[Jonas]] are born.

:'''1988''' - [[Daniel]] is born.

:'''October 26th, 1989''' - [[Bree]] is born in America.

:'''1994''' - Bree begins treatment for her lazy eye.

:'''1996''' - According to Gemma, a family disappears after their daughter participates in the same ceremony in which Bree is eventually chosen to play part. (Many have speculated this is [[Tachyon]]'s family)

:'''1998''' - Bree's family moves to [[New Zealand]], where she briefly goes to a public school for the first time.

:'''2000''' - Bree's family visits the Northern Territory of Australia. [[Jonas's parents]] are lost at sea in the Pacific Ocean and assumed dead.

:'''2002''' - Bree's family moves to Nottinghamshire, England, where Bree meets Gemma and befriends her dog.

:'''2004''' - Bree's family moves back to America, where she meets Daniel and Cassie during a brief stint in public school. Her classmates make fun of her and call her "[[Stargirl]]". In the same year, Daniel's grandmother passes away.

==2006==
===May===
:'''May 12th''' - Bree registers the [[YouTube]] account lonelygirl15 and begins commenting on the videos of many popular YouTubers.

:'''May 24th''' - Bree posts her first video [[Paytotheorderofofof vs. Dinosaur]].

===June===
:'''Mid-June''' - Daniel graduates from high school; Bree is not allowed to attend his graduation party.

:'''June 16th''' - Bree posts the video [[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] which, as noted in the title, is her first blog. Two days later, she posts the video [[Purple Monkey (video)|Purple Monkey]], which introduces her beloved puppet.

:'''June 23rd''' - Although previously mentioned in videos and comments, Daniel makes his first on-camera appearance in the video [[The Danielbeast]].

===July===

:'''July 4th''' - In the video, [[My Parents Suck...]] Bree reveals that Daniel came to her house to take her on a hiking trip, but her parents refuse to let her go. The next day Daniel creates a YouTube account and responds with the video [[Daniel Responds]].

:'''July 9th''' - Bree posts the first video of the [[Proving Science Wrong (series)|PSW Series]] — [[Proving Science Wrong!]]

:'''July 12th''' - Bree and Daniel finally go hiking together. Bree posts the video [[My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!]] the next day. Romantic tensions on the trip lead to the video [[Boy Problems...]]

:'''July 29th''' - [[Bree's parents#Father|Bree's dad]] nearly catches her making the blog entry [[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]]. He takes Daniel aside for a personal talk in which he asks Daniel to film a play at Bree's summer camp. Daniel refuses.

===August===
:'''August 6th''' - Bree finally confronts Daniel about his conversation with her dad in the video [[What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?]]. Daniel makes Bree upset by trying to light some candles in her room. The picture of [[Aleister Crowley]] is first seen in this video, as is [[Thor]]. This leads to a fight on August 15th between Bree and Daniel in the video [[I Probably Shouldn't Post This...]]

:'''August 24th''' - Bree has the play. Daniel films a short video [[To Hell With Bree's Dad (yeah!)]] announcing that he's going to make amends with Bree and go to her play. After the play, Bree and Daniel go on what could be considered a date.

:'''August 28th''' - Daniel takes Bree swimming in the San Gabriel River. The next day Bree posts the video [[Swimming!]], in which she first mentions [[Cassie]].

:'''August 31st''' - Bree and Daniel make cookies. [[P. Monkey]] signals that something momentous will happen on October 12, 2006.

===September===
:'''September 3rd''' - Bree's parents tell her [[A Change In My Life |she's been chosen to participate]] in a [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]].

:'''September 9th''' - Bree [[I'm Going to the Party!|sneaks out with Daniel]] for the first time. They go to a party where they meet with [[Andrea]] and [[Paul]], who invite them to go out again with them. Later, she is caught by her Dad who grounds her and bans Daniel from the house. A Few days later Bree sneaks out to meet with Daniel at a park so they can go bowling with Andrea and Paul. Daniel finds out that Bree is taking iron pills.

:'''September 16th''' - Bree sneaks out to a party with Daniel. [[My First Kiss| They kiss for the first time]].

:'''September 20th''' - Bree sneaks out to meet Daniel, and [[Learning To Drive|learns how to drive]]. They get in a fight over Bree's religion, in which Bree mentions the [[Denderah|Order of Denderah]] for the first time.

:''' September 23rd ''' - Bree attends the Equinox celebration with her parents, and is introduced to [[Lucy]]. The next day Bree sneaks out to see Daniel, and they have a fight. Bree confesses to her parents that she's been sneaking out. Bree and Daniel are [[My Difficult Decision|no longer speaking to each other]].

:'''September 27th ''' - Lucy is [[Who Is This?|seen]] by Daniel for the first time, as she and Bree go to a park to practice for the ceremony; Bree [[My Helper|asks Daniel not to follow her anymore]].

===October===
:'''October 1st ''' - Bree goes to possibly see a doctor with Lucy, and is followed by Daniel.

:'''October 6th''' - Daniel begins to research Bree's religion and posts the video [[Order Of Denderah]].

:'''October 12th''' - Bree participates in the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]]. While Daniel spies on the ceremony, someone takes pictures of him, which he later discovers on Lucy's computer.

:'''October 15th''' - Daniel follows Lucy to her home and breaks in to discover the pictures of him spying on [[The Ceremony (ritual)|Bree's ritual]]. Two days later Bree hints that Daniel may be in danger for making [[The Ceremony]] and [[Following The Helper]].

:'''October 19th''' - Gemma posts [[Nut Kills Man|her first video]]. Sometime during this weekend, Daniel calls Bree on the phone for the first time in nearly a month. Bree also reveals that [[I Lied To Daniel|the ceremony on the 12th was fake]].

:'''October 24th''' - Bree goes to Daniel's friend's house to talk to him, and [[I Listened To Daniel|reconsiders doing the Ceremony]]

===November===
:'''November 1st''' - Bree's parents tell her that the [[What Makes Us Sad?|deacons refuse to let her get out of performing the ceremony]].

:'''November 4th''' - Bree's parents are apparently kidnapped by Lucy and a [[Deacon]].

:'''November 7th''' - Bree and Daniel [[On The Run|go into hiding]] for several days since witnessing Bree's parents being taken away.

:'''November 15th''' - Gemma warns Bree and Daniel [[Someone's Following You|to be on the lookout]], revealing the presence of the [[A Watcher|watchers]]. Jonas [[My Name Is Jonas| posts his first video]].

:'''November 23rd''' - Bree goes out to the movies and posts the video [[Date With P. Monkey]]. The next day Bree decides to have a picnic-style [[Thanksgiving]] dinner with Daniel on a hiking trail. The idea is proposed that Bree and Daniel go to stay at Jonas's house.

===December===
:'''December 1st''' - In response to advice from Tachyon, Daniel decides to ditch his car. Bree and Daniel are living on the [[Homeless|streets]] and in a [[Warwalking|warehouse]]. They argue about whether they can trust Jonas and whether they should return home.

:'''December 9th''' - Daniel and Bree wait inside a parking garage for Jonas to show up. When he does, Daniel changes his mind and tells Bree that he's going home. Bree [[Your Decision|leaves Daniel for Jonas]] a couple days later, Daniel posts [[Back Home|a video]], telling about his return to his parents and giving an apology to Bree.

:'''December 11th''' - Over the next few days, Tachyon posts videos, which shows footage of Gemma [[Gemma? (Part I)|walking down a sunny street]] that is clearly not in London, [[Gemma? (Part II)|Gemma and Lucy getting in to a car together]], and [[Gemma? (Part III)| talking on a phone to an unknown person about OpAphid]].

:'''December 15th''' - Over the next week, Daniel searches Bree's house, [[Back At Bree's|finding a suspicious box]], [[Undisclosed Location|discovers a hidden camera in his room]] and flees. He then [[Breaking And Entering|sneaks into the warehouse]] from which the box was sent, and finds a large supply of [[Bree's injections|EPOGEN]]. Meanwhile, Bree [[Bree Phone Home|attempts to contact relatives]].

:'''December 25th''' - Daniel arrives at Jonas's house [[Christmas Surprise|before dawn on Christmas]]. Jonas films Bree and Daniel's reunion, but wakes up the next morning to find [[Bree's Gone|Bree missing]], along with his car and one of his credit cards.

:'''December 28th''' - Daniel and Jonas [[Mystery Movies|uncover the code]] that Bree used to communicate with her father, and [[Roadtrip|set out to catch up with her]] at her meeting location.

:'''December 31st''' - Jonas and Daniel find Bree with her father, and rescue her from the Order. However, during the rescue, [[The Unthinkable Happened|Bree's dad is shot]] and [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|presumed dead]]. Other deaths this day include [[Brother]] killing [[Gemma]] & Dr. [[Isaac Gilman]] dying in a mysterious car crash off the I-5.

==2007==
===January===
:'''January 15th''' - Daniel implies that [[Bree And I Hooked Up|he and Bree slept together]], which [[Daniel's A Liar|Bree vehemently denies]].

:'''January 26th''' - After [[For The Ladies|going out to the bowling alley]], [[Daniel's Missing!|Daniel is abducted]].

:'''January 29th''' - Bree sets out with Jonas [[Looking For Daniel|to track down Daniel]]. This results in a road trip, and they end up having to [[Sleepover|stay in a motel that night]]. Jonas repeatedly assures the viewers (Daniel in particular, wherever he is) that his sharing a motel bed with Bree is strictly platonic.

===February===
:'''February 4th''' - While Brainwashed, Daniel posts an [[Miss Me?|OpAphid style video]], reassuring Bree that the Order is good, and she should go through with the ceremony. The next day Bree offers to [[Me For Daniel| surrender herself to the Order]], to perform the ceremony, if Daniel is released.

:'''February 10th''' - With the Help of [[Tachyon]] and [[Brother]], Bree and Jonas [[The Human Ransom|rescue Daniel]], Tachyon [[Rescuing Daniel|shares a lot of information]] with Bree.

:'''February 16th''' - Jonas confronts [[Watch This!|a watcher]] and discovers his house is no longer safe from The Order, so they [[Yellow Snow|go into Hiding]] at [[Jonas's cabin]] in the woods.

:'''February 26th''' - Bree [[How Dumb Am I?|finds a Watcher symbol ]], in Jonas's cabin and thinks Jonas is part of a plan by The Order. She [[Bree Is Crazy| ties up Jonas]], refusing to let him go until he explains the symbol to her.

===March===

:'''March 1st''' - After [[What The Hell?!??!|escaping]], Jonas posts the video Jonas [[Proving Bree Wrong|finds boxes of Information]] proving that Jonas parent's were not part of the Order, but rather [[Sorry Jonas|fighting against it]].

:'''March 7th''' - Bree, Jonas and Daniel, go to the house of Jonas's aunt [[Alex]], looking for [[My Hand Hurts|more information]].

:'''March 11th''' - Alex is [[Aunt Alex|picked up from the airport]] by Daniel and Jonas. Bree decides to hang out with Tachyon instead and get some [[Training Hard|training]].

:'''March 14th''' - Daniel, Alex, and Jonas [[Uncle Dan|go to a party]] where [[Lucy!?!?!|a photo of Lucy]] is spotted.

:'''March 17th''' - Jonas [[Alex Is...|confronts Alex]], who admits to being part of the Order, and claims Jonas's parents are still alive.

:'''March 20th''' - Daniel and Jonas [[Truckstop Reunion|meet up with Bree again]] and [[Vegas, Baby!|head for Las Vegas]]. They are then tracked down there, but manage to escape.

:'''March 26th''' - The Order [[Subjects Apprehended|capture]] Bree, Daniel and Jonas and subject them to [[Psychological Torture]]. Bree agrees to do the ceremony.

:'''March 31st''' - They [[Communication Terminated| manage to escape from where the Order were keeping them]] but Bree is spotted by the cameraman, who is suddenly shot. None of the three can [[Missing Days|remember what happened]].

===April===

:'''April 3rd''' - Bree gives background information about [[Losing My Religion|her mother and her religion]], which she finally gives a name -- the [[Hymn of One|Hymn Of One]].

:'''April 4th''' - The three [[Lying Bastards|follow Alex to Mexico]], and Bree and Daniel [[Confrontation|confront]] Alex. Bree mentions that people have been saying that someone drugged them, but Alex denies that this was The Order's doing. Jonas later [[Hug It Out|makes up with Alex]].

:'''April 9th''' - [[Jules]] posts her [[Call Me Jules|first video]] on YouTube.

:'''April 12th''' - [[Nikki Bower]] [[Following the Drugs - NBR Investigates|reports]] that Tachyon, Brother, and OpAphid are confirmed to be missing and haven't been seen since.

:'''April 13th''' - Alex [[The Perfect Beach|takes the three to her favorite beach]], but when Lucy is suddenly there, Jonas assumes that Alex has set them up. He grabs a gun from the front seat and threatens them with it. Alex claims that they are there for her, that they have a "new girl" for the ceremony, and that Bree is no longer needed.

:'''April 14th''' - [[Taylor]] posts her [[First Video (I know, lame title)|first video]] on Revver.

:'''April 16th''' - The three decide to stay in [[The bunker|a bunker]] that has been used by [[The Resistance]]. Jonas found out about it while looking through his parent's files, and they discover more clues there. Bree learns that Jules could be the [[New Girl]] that Alex was talking about, by watching [[The Ceremony Girl?! - NBR Investigates|Nikki Bower's video]].

:'''April 26th''' - Bree [[A Solid Lead|learns]] that Taylor thinks she [[I Recognize Her!|knows who Julia is]], and [[OUT OF THE BUNKER!!!|decides to go to Texas]]. There, they meet Taylor, as well as [[Crazy Emo Chick|her sister]].

===May===

:'''May 4th''' - [[We Found Julia!!!|Jules is tracked down]], Bree attempts to talk to her about how she shouldn't do the ceremony but Jules runs off. Bree and Daniel kidnap Jules.

:'''May 9th''' - Jules escapes. They eventually find her, but Lucy and the watchers show up. Bree goes to talk to them and [[What the F*@k???|ends up going with them]], leaving Daniel and Jonas perplexed.

:'''May 18th''' - Taylor discovers that Jules (unlike Bree) is not adopted. Daniel [[Let's Play Doctor|steals Jules's medical records]], which contain a page with the EPOGEN symbol on it and the note "Trait Negative."

:'''May 25th''' - A brainwashed Bree makes a [[Sing With Me|video advertising the hymn of one]], but containing a hidden message.

:'''May 26th''' - Sarah meets up with the boys in California. The three of them [[CAMP PLAY|find a box]] containing significant [[Opening the Box|information about Bree]].

===June===

:'''June 1st''' - Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah [[It's A Cult|infiltrate a Hymn of One recruitment seminar]], and [[Getting Her Back|get Bree back]], against her will.

:'''June 5th''' - In a rented cabin, Bree's friends try to [[Bedside Manner|deprogram her]].

:'''June 8th''' - In the morning after [[HOLY SH%T!!!|their first kiss]], Jonas discovers that [[The Morning After|Bree has run away]].

:'''June 15th''' - Bree, apparently still brainwashed, uploads [[Going Home|a video from her phone]], stating that she is lost asking the Hymn of One to come find her. They pick her up shortly afterwards.

:'''June 18th''' - Taylor [[A New Lead|cracks a barcode]] from Bree's dad's box, tracing it to the Wyman Foundation in San Diego, CA.

:'''June 19th''' - Daniel finds the name [[Isaac Gilman|Dr. Isaac Gilman]] in the box, but when they [[The Mad Scientist|go to the Wyman Foundation]] to find him, they are told he doesn't work there.

:'''June 20th''' - After more research, the gang [[Sweating Bullets|infiltrates Issac Gilman's health club]], where they meet [[The Mistress (character)|a woman]] who claims to be able to help them.

:'''June 22nd''' - They [[The Mistress|privately meet with the woman]], who reveals herself to be Issac Gilman's former mistress. They also learn that Gilman died on 12/31/06 (the same day as Bree's dad).

:'''June 25th''' - Jonas [[In (Search of) sanity...|heads back to Zavalla]], where he and Taylor eventually contact Issac Gilman's son, [[Spencer]].

:'''June 29th''' - Spencer [[What Up Blogosphere!|posts a video response]], stating that he knows nothing of his father's work and that he wishes to be left alone.
[[Category:Breeniverse events]]

===July===

:'''July 6th''' - Daniel and Sarah [[All Wet|find Isaac Gilman's research files]], at [[Look Back| Jonas's parent's yacht club]], while Jonas and Taylor [[Going Back to Cali|return to California]].

:'''July 11th''' - Spencer and Taylor, with the help of the forum members, [[The Bree Solution|decipher the damaged documents]], and [[Deep Throat|discover the key]] to making Bree 'trait negative'.

:'''July 12th''' - It is revealed by [[Deep Throat|the informant]] nicknamed "Deep Throat" by [[Daniel]] that the Ceremony will be within a month and that Bree is currently in a lockup.

===August===
:'''August 3rd''' - Bree [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 10 of 12 – 5 pm|sacrifices her life]] for Jonas, Daniel, Taylor, Sarah, and Spencer.

:'''August 5th-10th''' - [[My Parents Suck Too|Daniel]], [[Speak to Me!|Jonas]], [[The Unsolvable Formula|Spencer]], [[Sluttiness Prevails|Taylor and Sarah]] all return to their respective homes. A mysterious new blogger named [[LaRezisto]] [[We Reach Out|posts a video]] with the message "Fight the Order - Join the Resistance."

:'''August 18th''' - LaRezisto [[Remember Them?|posts a video]] that shows [[Jonas's parents]], alive and well. He claims that they have no memory of Jonas.

:'''August 22nd''' - Daniel [[The Email|opens a e-mail from Bree]], and a "man in black" appears immediately outside his house. Daniel sends a copy to LaRezisto, then quickly deletes it.

:'''August 24th''' - Jonas [[A Family Affair|goes to meet his parents]], and is introduced to his younger sister [[Emma]]. Later in the day, [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] show up at his parents' house, and it is revealed that his parents belong to the Hymn of One.

:'''August 30th''' - Daniel [[Hot Date|goes on a date]] with his new girlfriend, [[Mallory]]. Taylor discovers that the new '[[trait positive|Trait Positive]]' girl that the Order wants is Emma.

:'''August 31st''' - Agents of the Order [[Home Invasion|invade Jonas's parents' home]] and try to take Emma. Both of Jonas's parents are shot (but not killed) in the struggle. Daniel comes to help, and he and Jonas take Emma to a safehaven in [[Arizona]].

===September===

:'''September 4th''' - Jonas, now staying in a motel near the [[Grand Canyon]], asks Sarah to bring the vial of serum that Spencer made, to make Emma 'trait negative.'

:'''September 6th''' - Taylor [[Gross Guy|tells Jonas]] that Sarah has lost the serum. Jonas [[Stupid B!tch!|is infuriated]], and demands that she find it.

:'''September 7th''' - Sarah [[Revealing My Secret|reveals]] that she, in fact, has the serum, but she "wanted a normal life." She then goes to Arizona.

:'''September 8th''' - The Order comes and [[Shadow of Death|tries again to forcibly take Emma]]. Emma, in desperation, throws herself at a [[Shadow]], and he hits the ground dead. The gang then runs and escapes the Order's grasp.

:'''September 13th''' - LaRezisto [[Help Us!|claims that 'trait positive' girls have special powers]], and that Emma has the power to stop the Order once and for all.

:'''September 14th''' - Jonas, convinced of her power, [[Decision Time|asks Emma to stay]] and help fight the Order. Emma reveals that she has already started taking the serum, to become 'trait negative' and live a normal life.

:'''September 16th''' - Emma [[Last Train To...|gets on a train]] to go back home.

:'''September 17th''' - Jonas sees Carl and Sonia handing out HoO fliers and [[Spreading the Song|discussing the Ceremony]]

:'''September 18th''' - Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah [[Living with Girls|move]] into [[The rented house|a rented house together]]

:'''September 20th''' - Jonas and Sarah go on a [[Stakeout... With A Girl|Stakeout]] to spy on Carl and Sonia and a [[Watcher]] speaks for the first time in the series. On the same day in a [[I Like Being Me|different blog]] Emma announces she does not want to fight the order and will be taking her last injection.

:'''September 21st''' - Daniel and Jonas go to the Griffith Observatory where they see Sonia and Carl [[Robbing the Cradle|bring]] a [[Trait positive]] baby to her adoptive parents.

:'''September 23rd''' - LaRezisto posts a [[Join Me!|video]] revealing herself to be a trait positive woman named Claire and inviting Emma to join her in fighting the order.

:'''September 24th''' - Daniel and Sarah tell us that Jonas [[How Could You? (season 2)|has taken]] Emma to Claire without their consent.

:'''September 26th''' - Daniel begins making a [[Student Film]] for class, and on the same day [[Finding Help|Jonas and Emma find Claire]]

:'''September 27th''' - Sarah announces that she is [[No More Lies|turning over a new leaf]] and tells Mallory about Daniels involvement in the resistance, to which Mallory replies that she [[Secrets Revealed|already knows]]

:'''September 28th''' - Jonas lets Claire take Emma deeper into the woods without him. A watcher appears and [[Watch Your Back|tells]] Jonas that Claire is a "Larezisto Shadow."

===October===

:'''October 1st''' - Daniel shows us his [[My School Project|finished student film]]

:'''October 2nd''' - The Watcher and Jonas look for Emma and Claire. The Watcher [[My Fatal Mistake|reveals]] that there is a rouge Elder trying to obtain Eternal Life by going against the Order, he also tells us that this is the Elder who kidnapped BDJ in Vegas. On the same day, Daniel tells us that Jonas has returned but [[He's Not Talking]] about what happened.

:'''October 3rd''' - Sarah [[That Arrogant Jerk!|vents]] to us about Jonas's mistakes and Mallory [[Please Help|asks us to help]] edit Daniels student film.

:'''October 4th''' - Daniel and Jonas [[Home Sweet Home?|go back]] to Jonas's old house to look for more information. When there, they find that the house has been gone through and there are things missing from the box they found in the cabin.

:'''October 5th''' - Sarah and Mallory tell us that Daniel and Jonas found out Emma is hidden somewhere in L.A. and then they [[Carving Pumpkins|carve pumpkins]]. On the same day, Daniel and Jonas return home and Sonia [[Tailgating|follows]] soon after.

:'''October 8th''' - Sonia tells us more information and denounces her faith in the HoO. She offers to help TAAG fight the order with the information she has.

:'''October 10th''' - Claire and Emma make a video in which Emma seems to be coerced by Claire to tell everyone she's OK. Claire warns TAAG not to try finding Emma.

:'''October 11th''' - Jonas obsesses over finding a code in Emma's [[Emma's Safe|last video]], Daniel and Sarah help Sonia track down the Ceremony [[Robbing the Cradle|baby]], and LaRezisto/Claire make a new video once again attempting to force Emma into saying she's fine.
:'''October 13th''' - Daniel and Jonas help Sonia [[They'll Do Anything|kidnap]] the ceremony baby
:'''October 15th''' - Sarah is [[Battle of the Sexes|outraged]] she was not included in recovering the baby, and attempts to show her independence by building a birdhouse. The boys later [[Nice Try|make fun]] of Sarah's attempts.
:'''October 16th''' - Sonia is shown having been [[They Beat Her!!!|beaten]] by a HoO member because she would not reveal where the baby was.
:'''October 17th''' - [[Chris]] posts a [[They Belong With Us|video]] denying that there is an [[the Order|Order]] and warning TAAG to quit trying to save the trait positive girls. That same day, Sarah and a reluctant Mallory go find Chris at a bar, and Mallory [[A Woman's Touch|flirts]] with Chris to secretly get information.
:'''October 19th''' - TAAG finds out that there has been a new partnership created between [[Verdas Pharmaceuticals]], the [[Wyman Foundation]], and the [[Hymn of One]].
:'''October 20th''' - Emma and Claire make another [[Storytelling|video]] in which Emma tells us a story.
:'''October 20th''' - Emma and Claire make a [[Goodbye For Now|video]] with Emma telling TAAG goodbye, and confirming she will be performing [[the Ceremony (ritual)|the ceremony.]]

Theories About Characters

2007-10-23T21:46:19Z

64.81.108.2: /* Kate */ it's disproved not disproven. dictionary.com, people.

This page is used to post your theories about [[characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

==lonelygirl15==

===Bree===
*Her full name is [[Bree|Bree Avery]] because her father's name is [[Bree's parents|Drew Avery]]. (proven)
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*Bree isn't actually dead.
*Bree is not dead, but will not be returning.
*The Order didn't kill Bree, they made it look like she died so Daniel and Jonas would stop chasing her.
*Bree may be [[Kate]]'s biological sister.
*Bree was pregnant when she died
*Bree is in the mountains near Sedona.
*The [[They'll Do Anything|ceremony baby]] is Bree's child.

===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for the order.
*Daniel was in love with Bree. (proven)
*Daniel will fall in love with Sarah.

===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*The Order performed Bree's ceremony incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die.
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill Jonas as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.

===Jonas===
*[[Jonas]] will become depressed after losing Bree and kill himself. (disproved)
*Jonas will tell Emma about his adventures with Bree and Daniel and they will fight the Order.(disproved, she found out by watching the LG15 series)
*Jonas will become brainwashed by the Order.

===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by the Order.
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She is a [[Watcher]]. (disproved)
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down the Order.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract Spencer Gilman.
*Taylor will no longer appear. (proven; she is on the former characters list)

===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by the Order.
*Sarah is jealous of Bree. (proven)
*Sarah is not related to Taylor by blood.
*Sarah, as a plant by the Order, is present to distract Daniel from the task of locating Bree. (immaterial)
*Sarah texted the Watchers in the Season 1 Finale.
*Sarah loves Daniel. (proven)
*She is trait positive and the creepy guy is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant.
*Sarah is using the serum on herself. (disproved)
*Sarah has destroyed the serum. (disproved)
*Sarah says she is dating multiple guys to make Daniel jealous.
*Sarah has more than a 'passing interest' in Emma
*She hasn't really been injecting Emma with the serum, just a decoy.

===Bree's Mom===
*[[Bree's parents|Bree's mom]] is working against Bree's best interests.
*She is, or is working for, [[OpAphid]].(disproved: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Bree's mother married Drew Avery as a command from [[The Order]].
*Bree's mother is part of [[The Resistance]].

===Drew Avery===
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of the Order.
*He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
*He died because he tried to make Bree trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]). (proven)

===Alex===
*[[Alex|She]] is torn between her loyalty to her religion and her loyalty to her [[Jonas|nephew]].
*Alex has done the Ceremony. (disproved)
*She is still with the Order and gave Daniel a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample, she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*She is the one who put the messages in Bree's videos. (proven)
*Alex and Lucy are biological sisters

===Jonas' Parents===
*[[Jonas's parents|They]] are in hiding. (Proven)
*They are brainwashed by the Order. (proven)
*They will be found by Alex and help the Resistance.
*They are Bree's real parents. (That would be pretty disgusting given the circumstances)
*They are dead. (disproved)
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]] (proven)
*Jonas' mom is the nurse that helped perform Bree's ceremony.
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.

===Jules===
*[[Jules]] is not the [[New Girl|new girl]]. (proven)
*Jules was a plant by the Order to get Bree. (proven)
*Jules is putting the messages in Bree's blogs. (disproved)
*While Jonas is with Taylor, Julia will come and help them contact Spencer Gilman. (disproved)
*Jules is dead.

===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of the Order. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is Tachyon, and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-OpAphid, through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.

===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] is OpAphid or working for them.(disproved: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Lucy did the Ceremony. (Disproved)
*Lucy did not have knowledge of the Ceremony, and was therefore unable to answer Bree's questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help DJE.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of the Resistance.
*The Mistress knows Bree.
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
*The Mistress is in the Order and killed Isaac Gilman.
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
*The Mistress is Jonas' biological mother.(disproved)

===Rebecca===
*Rebecca is the girl in the photograph with Lucy seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]].
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on Bree for OpAphid.

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*Beth is the mole in [[Deep Throat]] (disproved)
*The "rock star" was also a guest of Charlie's birthday party.
*Bree's Real Parents were at the party.

===Bree's Biological Parents===
*Bree's biological parents are Jonas' parents.
*They died and the Order took Bree.
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for the Resistance.
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]], this would also mean that Bree and Jonas are biological brother and sister.

===Isaac Gilman===
*[[Isaac Gilman]] was Bree's real father.
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing Bree's dad was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
*He is the specialist who faked his death in Kate Modern.

===Spencer Gilman===
*[[Spencer]] is Bree's brother.
*Spencer is a plant by the order.
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for Daniel and Jonas: save the other ceremony girls.
*Spencer will see KateModern and attempt to break back into the Wyman Foundation and steal Kate's blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*Spencer will no longer appear.(Proven:His name is on the list of [[Characters | Former Characters ]].)
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative. (disproved)
*Spencer and Taylor will eventually end up together

===Nikki Bower===
*[[Nikki Bower|She]] will find where Bree is being kept and be brainwashed by the HoO. (disproved)
*Alternatively, OpAphid will kill her. (disproved, the creators (including Nikki Bower creator, Amanda Goodfried) cannot legally use OpAphid in their storyline)
*She is [[LaRezisto]]. (Disproved)
*She is [[trait positive]]

===The Watchers===
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting BDJ, not trying to kidnap them. (Proven)

===Shadows===
*[[Shadows]] and Watchers are against each other within the HoO. (Proven i.e. laRezisto vs. Watcher)

===LaRezisto===
*[[LaRezisto]] will contact Daniel and Jonas and together they will get over their feelings for Bree and save the other girls. (partially proven, he has contacted Jonas)
*LaRezisto is Sophie. (disproved)
*LaResisto is Cassie. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is actually the Order.
*LaRezisto is Scott. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Bree coming back from the dead. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Nikki B. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Paul and/or Andrea (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Jonas.(disproved)
*LaRezisto is/are Jonas' parents trying to goad him into saving more girls. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is working against [[TAAG]]. (proven)
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of Daniel's house. He was responsible for Deep Throat and for Alex's betrayal of the Order. When Bree returned to the Hymn Of One unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Deep Throat/Alex. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Bree's adoptive father, and he didn't die from the gun shot. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Spencer. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Lucy. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is Sonia. (disproved)
*LaRezisto is the Watcher from [[Robbing the Cradle]] (disproved)
*LaRezisto is the shooter from [[Dudley did it!]] (disproved)
*LaRezisto isn't a single person, it is a group similar to the Order, with members all over the world.

===Scott===
*[[Scott]] will convince Sarah to rejoin TAAG to save Emma.(disproved)
*Scott is the [[Gross Guy]].
*Scott is the [[Watcher]] in [[Stakeout... With A Girl]] that told [[Jonas]] the truth about [[LaRezisto]]
*Scott was written out of the show.

===Emma===
*[[Emma]] is trait positive. (proven)
*She is not Jonas' parent's biological daughter and therefore, not Jonas' biological sister. (proven)
*She is oblivious to her parent's Hymn of One activities. (disproven)
*Jonas and Daniel will save her from doing the ceremony.
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for the ceremony.
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood, especially the Elders. (disproven)
*She was abducted as a baby (Dr. Griffin explains in [[Dr. Weirdo]] that as a rule, trait positive girls are abducted as babies).
*She was adopted by Jonas' parents around age 9 (Jonas' parents disappeared 6 years ago and Emma is now around age 15). (Proven)
*She took Purple Monkey and the other stuffed friends with her when she left.
*She is using double talk in her videos.

===Mallory===
*The flickr account is [[Mallory]]'s. (disproved)
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls.
*Mallory is a plant by the order.
*Mallory is trait positive.
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.
*Mallory will break up with Daniel because of Sarah.

===Purple Monkey===
'''Warning! This section contains humor. If it's hard for you to deal with that, please [[Special:Random|move along.]]'''
*[[Purple Monkey]] is [[trait positive]].
*Purple Monkey is [[LaRezisto]].
*Purple Monkey will give himself up to protect [[TAAG]].
*Purple Monkey is awesome! (PROVEN!!!)
*Purple Monkey was a plant by the [[order]].
*Purple Monkey is a reversible hand puppet
*Purple Monkey was made in China(PROVEN!!!!!)
*Purple Monkey will be lost, and found by [[Kate]]
*[[Purple Monkey]] killed [[Gemma]].

== KateModern ==

===Kate===
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from someone, possibly the Order. The order is the connection to lg15.
*Kate was a Ceremony girl. (disproved)
*Kate is [[Cassie]].
*Kate is [[Tachyon]]. (disproved: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Kate is Trait Positive. (proven)
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*Kate is Lucy. (disproved)
*Kate will join the HoO and Gavin, Tariq, and Charlie will try to save her.
*The same people that kidnapped Jonas, Daniel & Bree in Las Vegas and wiped their memories did the same to Kate (disproved)
*Kate is a parallel character to Bree.
*Kate and Bree are twins. (Disproved: Kate is 19 while at the time of her death Bree was only 17)
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister.
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution. (disproved though she stayed in a hospital for a month because of her dreams.)
*The people that wiped Jonas' parents' memories did the same to Kate.
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Kate is possibly suffering from DID resulting in her loss of memories
*Kate's real name is Elizabeth (disproved)
*Kate's real name is Rose (disproved)
*Kate's real name is [[Bree]] (disproved)
*Kate's real name is [[Claire]] (disproved)

===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of the Order.
*Charlie is Tariq's ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is dating Gavin. (proven)
*Charlie is Gemma's ex-flatmate
*Charlie is Gemma's sister
*Charlie was once pregnant and lost the baby through miscarriage, abortion, or adoption.
*Charlie is a parallel character to Daniel and Taylor.
*Charlie's sister and niece are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much.(disproved:Charlie put one message in her video "[[Tell Kim I Love Her]]",to tell her niece that Charlie loves her .)
*Charlie is a parallel character to Sarah.
*Charlie is working for the HoO or, possibly, the Order.
*Charlie had a falling out with her family and can't return home. This is why she always talks about how she wishes she could go home.

===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.(disproved)
*Gavin will see the lg15 videos and ask Jonas for a loan. (disproved)
*Gavin is a member of the HofO or the Order.
*Gavin is a member of the Resistance.
*Gavin is a parallel character to Jonas, which could mean that he also has connections to the Order.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate.

===Tariq===
*[[Tariq]] has watched [[lonelygirl15]], and has heard of [[the Order]]. He will be the connection between [[Kate]], [[Charlie]], [[Gavin]], himself, and [[Daniel]], [[Sarah]], [[Taylor]], [[Jonas]], and [[Spencer]] (and possibly [[Bree]]). (disproved: he watched the videos, but only after finding the HoO pamphlet.)
*The Order will kidnap Tariq because he researched the Hymn of One after finding the pamphlet.
* Tariq is a parallel character to Daniel.
* Tariq's date will have some connection to HoO/The Order

===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of the Order
*He's a Watcher. (disproved)
*He is Carl (disproved).
*Steve is a parallel character to [[Alex]]. (PROVEN!!!)
*He will use his inside knowledge to help Kate and her friends.

===Aunt Joan===
*Aunt Joan is related to Jonas.
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with Nikki Bower.

===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and Spencer are half brothers.
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are parallel characters.
*[[The Mistress]] is his mother.
*He is [[LaRezisto]].

===Dr. William Griffin===
*He is the Rogue Elder Larezisto works for.

===Michelle Clore===
*[[Michelle Clore]] is in the Order. (Proven)
*[[Michelle Clore]] is an Elder. (Proven)
*Her bodyguards are actually [[Watchers]]. (Proven)
*Her touch "burned" Kate somehow. (disproved, Kate saw "flashes of dreams when she was touched.")
*She is the woman from [[Awful Dream]].

===Julia===
*[[Julia (katemodern)|Julia]] is in [[The Order]]
*Julia works at the Orange Retail Store, which has some connection to the [[Orange Slurpee|Orange Slurpees of Evil]]
*Julia is a parallel character to Mallory

===Kim===
*She is [[Charlie]]'s daughter.

== See Also ==
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

Chris

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| name = Chris
| image = 203-Chris-Cropped.jpg
| age = Unknown
| birthday = Unknown
| youtube =
| myspace =
| actor = [[Cameos#Steve Shaheen|Steve Shaheen]]
| first = [[It's A Cult]]
| last = [[A Woman's Touch]]
| color = plum
}}
'''Chris''' is a member of the [[Hymn of One]] first seen by TAAG on June 1st, 2007 in the video [[It's A Cult]]. There he was seen speaking at a HoO recruitment seminar, giving his testimony about his first time at a HoO meeting. Chris was not seen again until over four months later when he posted a [[They Belong With Us|video]] denying that [[the Order]] existed and warning [[Daniel]], [[Jonas]],[[Sarah]] and [[Sonia]] to stop trying to fight the Hymn of One. He also told them that the [[They'll Do Anything|baby]] they thought they had rescued and [[Emma]] would not be safe from them, claiming that ''"They're essential notes in the Hymn, and they belong here with us."''

==Notes==
*It has been speculated that Chris either was the one who [[They Beat Her!!!|beat]] Sonia or authorized it. This may mean that Chris is someone with high ranking in the Hymn of One.

{{CharIndex}}

[[Category:Seen characters]]

Chris

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{{Person
| name = Chris
| image = 203-Chris-Cropped.jpg
| age = Unknown
| birthday = Unknown
| youtube =
| myspace =
| actor = [[Cameos#Steve Shaheen|Steve Shaheen]]
| first = [[It's A Cult]]
| last = [[A Woman's Touch]]
| color = plum
}}
'''Chris''' is a member of the [[Hymn of One]] first seen by TAAG on June 1st, 2007 in the video [[It's A Cult]]. There he was seen speaking at a HoO recruitment seminar, giving his testimony about his first time at a HoO meeting. Chris was not seen again until over four months later when he posted a [[They Belong With Us|video]] denying that [[the Order]] existed and warning [[Daniel]], [[Jonas]],[[Sarah]] and [[Sonia]] to stop trying to fight the Hymn of One. Told them that the [[They'll Do Anything|baby]] they thought they had rescued and [[Emma]] would not be safe from them, claiming that ''"They're essential notes in the Hymn, and they belong here with us."''

==Notes==
*It has been speculated that Chris either was the one who [[They Beat Her!!!|beat]] Sonia or authorized it. This may mean that Chris is someone with high ranking in the Hymn of One.

{{CharIndex}}

[[Category:Seen characters]]

Lonelygirl15 relationships

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This page is an attempt to track the relationships, crushes, and feelings of sexual tension between the characters of the [[Lonelygirl15]] series. For information on a specific relationship, click the navigation below.

==Bree==

===Bree and Daniel===
[[Image:Grillz.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Bree and Daniel in their "Grillz" music video.]]
[[Image:0158-BreeAndDanielHugging.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Bree and Daniel may "break up" but always have the sweetest "make ups".]]
At the beginning of the LG15 storyline, Bree claims Daniel is her only friend. She [[Purple Monkey (video)#Notes|vehnemently denies]] that she and Daniel are anything more than friends, in spite of comments made to many of her videos suggesting otherwise. Eventually, Bree [[Boy Problems...|asks Daniel if he has feelings for her]], to which he replies he does. Tension occurs in their relationship when [[Bree's parents#Father|Bree's father]] [[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)|asks to speak to Daniel privately]]. Many people assume that he wants to know of Daniel's intentions towards Bree, but it is later [[What Bree's Dad Said...|revealed]] that he simply wanted Daniel to film Bree's summer camp play. Daniel becomes very upset by this, and their relationship hits a rough point. However, Daniel ends up [[To Hell With Bree's Dad (yeah!)|showing up to Bree's play to suprise her]], which makes Bree [[I'm Really, Really, Really Excited!|very happy]]. Daniel later [[I Want to Take Bree to a Party!|asks Bree to go to a party]] with him. She asks her parents, but [[Should I Or Shouldn't I?|they say no]]. Bree decides that she is going to [[I'm Going to the Party!|sneak out and go to the party anyway]]. Bree admits that Daniel has given her [[My First Kiss|her first kiss]].

Daniel later gets angry at Bree, because he believes she is [[How Could You?|putting her religion]] ahead of their relationship. As Bree becomes more involved in preparations for [[the Ceremony]], Daniel becomes worried about Bree and begins to [[Where Are They Going?|follow her]]. Bree becomes upset and asks Daniel to [[Daniel Crossed The Line|leave her alone]]. However, as Daniel goes further and further to protect her, Bree becomes [[Daniel, Be Careful...|worried about Daniel.]] She and Daniel end up reconciling over their mutual [[I Listened To Daniel|mistrust]] of [[the Order]] and the Ceremony Bree was going to complete. Bree ends up deciding not to do the Ceremony.

Soon, though, Bree's parents are kidnapped by the Order because she won't do the Ceremony. Bree and Daniel decide to go [[On The Run|on the run]] together. They end up spending time together in a series of [[motels]]. At first, they are very [[Motel Pool|sweet]] towards each other. Daniel even makes Bree [[Breakfast In Bed|breakfast in bed]] to cheer her up. However, as the severity of their situation is realized, things get [[Silent Treatment|awkward and tense]] between the two of them. Bree tries to lighten the mood and prepares a [[Thanksgiving]] feast for Daniel. Things go from bad to worse, though, when Bree tries to [[Homeless|convince Daniel]] that they should go stay with Jonas. Bree does end up [[Your Decision|going with Jonas]], but Daniel does not feel that Jonas is trustworthy, and [[Back Home|heads home]]. However, he admits that he still "[[l'care]]s" about Bree and is worried about her. While at home, Daniel attempts to do some [[Breaking And Entering|sleuthing]] of the Order. He eventually joins Bree at Jonas's in time for [[Christmas Surprise|Christmas]].

Bree ends up leaving Jonas's house to meet up with her dad, who later [[The Unthinkable Happened|dies]]. Daniel [[Purple Monkey Returns|attempts to cheer Bree up]], but without much luck. Bree [[Hiding In The Bathroom|sulks around a lot]], but eventually ends up reaching out to Daniel. According to him, they end up [[Bree And I Hooked Up|hooking up]]. Daniel then prepares a [[Kicked Out|special dinner]] for Bree. Bree freaks out and [[Daniel’s A Liar|accuses Daniel of lying]]. Daniel takes this very hard, and [[Truth Or Dare|drowns his sorrows in alcohol]]. After Daniel doesn't [[Daniel's Missing!|come home after a night of partying]], Bree apologizes for the way she had treated Daniel and lets him know that she is worried about him. After she realizes that Daniel has been [[Miss Me?|kidnapped by OpAphid]], Bree agrees to [[Me For Daniel|do the Ceremony]] in exchange for Daniel's safe return. After they reunite, Bree pretends to go off with the Order, but ends up [[The Human Ransom|escaping]] with the help of [[Tachyon]].

After a [[Watch This!|Watcher comes to Jonas's house]], the group leaves and [[Yellow Snow|heads to Jonas's cabin in the mountains]]. Daniel realizes that Bree and Jonas have been spending [[Snow Angels|time together]] and becomes [[Jonas Sucks|very envious]]. Jonas and Daniel [[Men Are From Mars|stop talking to each other]] for a short while, which greatly frustrates Bree. They end up reconciling, and Daniel ends up defending Jonas when [[Interrogation 101|Bree ties him up]]. However, Daniel cannot hide his excitement over the fact that Bree and Jonas are now [[Beach Bum|fighting]]. After Jonas and Bree [[Co-Ed Foosball|make up]] Daniel drunkenly expresses his [[Intervention|jealousy]] over Jonas and Bree's budding relationship. He later becomes upset when [[Sarah]] suggests that Bree and Jonas must [[No Trespassing|make out all the time]]. He insists that all three of them are "just friends."

Daniel's jealousy of the budding relationship between Bree and Jonas becomes even more apparant when he accuses Jonas of [[Taking Advantage of Her|taking advantage of Bree]] as she is recovering from the [[I hAtE tHeSe PeOpLe|brainwashing]] she received at the hands of the [[Hymn of One]]. Although Daniel claims he is not jealous his tone of voice indicates that he probably is.

After [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 10 of 12 – 5 pm|Bree's death]], Daniel is [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 11 of 12 – 6 pm|noticably destraught]]. He cannot even be cheered by the [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 12 of 12 – 7 pm|touching voice message]] he received from Bree before she died, in which she tells him that he was more than a friend to her, he was "most favorite best in the world brother" and that she will love him forever and ever. Later, Daniel [[The Email|posts a video]] stating how weird it was that Bree went from being the love of his life to his best friend. He claims that Bree got him in "more ways than [he] even got [him]self."

===Bree and Jonas===

[[Image:0160-BreeCarryingJonas.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Bree and Jonas in [[Vegas, Baby!]]]]
[[Image:0189-JonasHuggingBree.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Bree and Jonas in [[She's Missing]]]]
[[Image:0208-BonasKiss.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Bree and Jonas kissing in [[HOLY SH%T!!!]]]]
The relationship between Bree and Jonas begins when Jonas posts [[Happy Thanksgiving|video responses]] to Bree's blogs. Bree [[Thanksgiving|thanks Jonas]] for reminding her what's important in life. Jonas then [[Trust Issues|offers Bree and Daniel]] a place to stay. Bree takes him up on his offer, but becomes [[Tough Cookie|upset and secluded]] when Daniel doesn't join her. Jonas attempts to cheer her up by buying her cookies and teaching her how to [[Skateboarding|skateboard]].

Soon, [[Christmas Surprise|Daniel arrives]] and [[Bree's Gone|Bree leaves]], causing Jonas to worry that she has taken advantage of him. He eventually realizes that Bree has gone off to meet up with her dad, and he and Daniel [[Roadtrip|track her down]]. After Bree's dad is [[The Unthinkable Happened|shot]], Jonas doesn't really know what to say to Bree. He and Daniel bond, however, and Jonas asks Daniel how the [[Foosball|kiss with Bree]] was. Later, as Daniel prepares a special date for Bree, Jonas expresses his [[Kicked Out|jealousy]].

Daniel later [[Daniel's Missing!|goes missing]] and Bree and Jonas must hit the road an attempt to locate him. They end up [[Sleepover|spending the night]] in a [[motels|motel]] together. The motel has one bed, and Jonas builds "The Great Wall of Jonas" to reassure a non-present Daniel that nothing will happen between him and Bree. He ends up becoming so uncomfortable, though, that he spends the night in the bathtub.

After Daniel has safely returned home, a [[Watcher]] [[Watch This!|comes to Jonas's house]]. In an attempt to protect Bree, Jonas confronts the Watcher and punches him. [[BDJ]] then leaves Jonas's house and [[Yellow Snow|heads to his cabin in the mountains]]. Jonas makes peanut butter sandwiches for Bree and the two [[Snow Angels|frolic in the snow]]. This causes [[Jonas Sucks|jealousy]] on Daniel's part. Jonas and Daniel [[Men Are From Mars|stop talking to each other]] for a short while, which greatly frustrates Bree. Things do get better for a while, though. However, Bree finds [[How Dumb Am I?|a suspicious symbol]] in Jonas's place and ties him up, thinking that he is a part of the Order. Jonas ends up [[What The Hell?!??!|escaping]], and [[Proving Bree Wrong|proves to Bree]] that he is not in the Order. Things become [[On The Road Again|very strained]] between Bree and Jonas, even as she attempts to [[Sorry Jonas|apologize]] for what she has done. Bree ends up leaving Jonas's to stay with Tachyon after [[Aunt Alex|Jonas insults her]].

Jonas and Daniel go to stay with his Aunt Alex, until Bree [[Lucy!?!?!|raises suspicions]] that Alex is a part of the Order. The boys leave Alex's and meet Bree at a [[Truckstop Reunion|truckstop]]. Bree offers Jonas a [[Co-Ed Foosball|heartfelt apology]] and the two put all of the drama behind them.

As the relationship between [[#Daniel and Alex| Daniel and Alex]] develops, Jonas becomes upset and begins to [[Spanglish|talk about relationships with Bree.]] The two then spend time together exploring Mexico. After Alex is [[The Perfect Beach|exposed]] as an active member of the Order, the trio heads down to a bunker. After awhile, they decide to leave the bunker and meet up with [[Taylor]], who claims she can help them find [[Jules]], another girl chosen for the Ceremony. Right after they leave, they go [[OUT OF THE BUNKER!!!|grocery shopping]], where Jonas pushes Bree around in a shopping cart. Once they arrive in Texas, Jonas and Bree [[No Trespassing|skateboard together outside of the car]], leading [[Sarah]], Taylor's sister, to suggest that Bree and Jonas must make out all the time. Daniel swears everything is platonic between them. Jonas then gives Bree a piggy-back ride back to the truck.

After the trio [[We Found Julia!!!|finds Jules]], Bree and Daniel attempt to [[It's Not Kidnapping|kidnap her]], much to the disdain of Jonas. However, after Jules [[She's Missing|escapes]], Jonas does not hesitate to comfort Bree. First, he goes out with Daniel to try and hunt Jules down, but ends up going back to the motel room to check on Bree. He gives her a hug, a kiss on the forehead, and many words of encouragement. His overall demeanor is extremely indicative of his growing feelings towards Bree.

After Bree goes [[What the F*@k???|missing again]] Jonas says that he has been [[1500 Miles|getting close to Bree]]. He says that he believes she likes him too.

Once Jonas, Daniel, and [[Sarah]] get Bree back from the [[Getting Her Back|hands of the Order]], Jonas attempts to [[Bedside Manner|deprogram]] her by dancing around and trying to make Bree giggle. He further bonds with her as the deprogramming [[Taking Advantage of Her|continues]], pushing her hair behind her ear, hugging her, and giving her a piggy back ride through the woods. [[HOLY SH%T!!!|One night]], Sarah decides to sneak up on Bree and Jonas and she catches them kissing on the porch. Jonas's demeanor in his next video, along with indications he may be in Bree's bedroom, leads to speculation that Jonas and Bree [[The Morning After|spent the night]] together. However, the next morning, Bree takes off, leaving Jonas to question Bree's true motives. He strongly [[Mr. Park Ranger|believes]] that what happened between them was real and challenges Bree to look him in the eyes and tell him otherwise. Later, when [[Hope He's Not Mad|asked by Taylor]] what he wants most in the world, he very emotionally says Bree.

After [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 10 of 12 – 5 pm|Bree's death]], Jonas is [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 11 of 12 – 6 pm|completely withdrawn and noticably distraught]]. He does, however, find comfort in the [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 12 of 12 – 7 pm|touching voice message]] he received from Bree before she died. In it, she tells him how much she loves him and that he will always be in her heart. She also talks about the "amazing" night they spent in the cabin together, and how she wants nothing more than to be in his arms forever and ever.

==Daniel==
===Daniel and Bree===
''See [[#Bree and Daniel|Bree and Daniel]]''

===Daniel and Random Girl===
[[Image:0118-BreeAndRandomGirlPosing.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Which one would '''you''' pick if you were Daniel?]]
Random Girl took care of a [[Truth Or Dare|drunken Daniel]]. The next morning, Daniel is unsure how he got such a [[Hungover|"hot girl"]] to come home with him, and wants to go to another bar to [[For The Ladies|pick up more girls]].
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===Daniel and Alex===
[[Image:0154-DanielAndAuntAlexAtTheParty.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Daniel and Alex at the party.]]
Daniel first mentions Alex when he finds [[Beach Bum|photographs]] she has taken at Jonas's cabin. He says that he is impressed by her photographs and thinks that she is very cute. Jonas is very upset by the possibility of any sort of relationship between Daniel and Alex, and warns Daniel to [[Aunt Alex|stay away from his aunt.]] However, Daniel ignores this and begins to question Alex about her personal life. He helps Alex make a [[On The Hot Seat|marketing video]] to explain what she does at her job. Things continue to heat up between them at a [[Uncle Dan|party]]. Daniel flirts with Alex, and possibly even makes out with her. Bree soon raises suspicions that Alex is [[Lucy!?!?!|part of the Order]]. Daniel believes that [[Alex Is...|Alex is good]] and wants to give her a chance to explain herself. Alex ends up coming clean and admits that she is working for the Order. However, this is later called into question as Alex engages in an [[Lying Bastards|emotional discussion]] about the safety of her nephew. Daniel forgives Alex and helps her [[Apology Accepted?|video tape an apology]]. The two become close, and Daniel expresses [[The Perfect Beach|jealousy over the mention of Alex's ex.]] Even when Alex is once-and-for-all exposed as part of the Order, Daniel tries to comfort her and protect her when Jonas pulls out a gun.

When Alex comes back into Daniel's life following a long hiatus, Daniel greets her in a friendly manner. This is largely because he realizes that Alex has been helping him, Jonas, Sarah, and Taylor in their attempt to save Bree from the cult for a long time. When he asks Alex what the meaning of her codename, [[TCC]], is, she snarkily replies, "Why don't you ask your new girlfriend?" This remark seemed bitter, perhaps implying that Alex is not really over Daniel, and is jealous of his budding [[#Daniel and Sarah|relationship with Sarah]].
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===Daniel and Jonas===
[[Image:0154-DanielAndJonasWaitingForATaxi.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Daniel and Jonas enjoying some quality "bro time".]]
[[Image:Scienceprovednothing jonas daniel.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Daniel and Jonas in deep thought about their relationship.]]
Although there does not appear to have been any actual sexual tension between Daniel and Jonas, there have been tongue-in-cheek type references to such in some videos, as would not be atypical among some young American males. Like any couple they have had their ups and downs during their friendship.

Daniel is initially [[Jonas?|mistrustful of Jonas]] and resents the fact that Bree considers his offer of shelter without appreciating his own sacrifices. Even after [[The Test|asking his "Internet friends" for advice]], Daniel resents Jonas's intervention enough for him to go [[Back Home|back home]] and leave Bree alone with him.

When Daniel finally meets up and stays with Jonas, around [[Christmas Surprise|Christmas 2006]], they soon get a chance to bond with each other during a [[Roadtrip|road trip]] after [[Bree's Gone|Bree's sudden disappearance]]. The road trip [[The Unthinkable Happened|culminates shockingly]], forcing them to stick together even more. As Bree is upset and [[Hiding In The Bathroom|wants to be alone]], the guys have a chance to play [[Foosball|foosball and talk about girls]].

During Daniel's relationship problems with Bree and his subsequent drinking, Jonas is often found keeping Daniel company or helping him home. The friendship continues to flourish as they play even more [[Foosball Battle|foosball]] and Jonas gives brotherly [[For The Ladies|tips on fashion and girls]]. After being captured and rescued, Daniel acknowledges that Jonas's constant [[Drinking Problems|psychoanalyzing is influencing him]] and this suggests they are becoming close enough to discuss more personal and serious issues with each other.

Daniel falls out with Jonas soon after they move to Jonas's cabin when Jonas's relationship with Bree begins to progress as [[Snow Angels|they spend time together without Daniel]]. Daniel regards Jonas's brotherly relationship advice as [[Jonas Sucks|hypocritical]] now that they are potentially rivals and he is [[Men Are From Mars|explicitly rude about Jonas on camera]] a couple of times. They eventually make up after [[Cracked The File|"a long bro-down session"]] but Daniel still does not believe Jonas is not interested in Bree. Daniel and Jonas bond again during and after an incident at the cabin which results in Bree mistrusting Jonas and tying him up. As Jonas subsequently [[On The Road Again|refuses to talk to Bree]], he gets close to Daniel again.

Their brotherly bond is tested by Daniel's [[Aunt Alex|interest in]], [[On The Hot Seat|chatting up of]], and [[Uncle Dan|blatant drunken flirting]] with Jonas's aunt Alex. But they treat this awkward situation with humor and friendship and bond over Alex's subsequent [[Alex Is...|betrayal]] with more [[Co-Ed Foosball|foosball]] and [[Vegas, Baby!|drinking]]. The [[The Perfect Beach|second time Alex betrays them]], there is an altercation and Jonas at one point has a gun pointed to Daniel's head. Jonas [[About The Gun|apologizes]] for this before they head off to a bunker.

Whilst drunk, Daniel [[Intervention|reveals his feelings]] of inferiority to Jonas and his disdain for Jonas's sporty, positive [[Running For Life|attitude to life]]. But, even whilst drunk, he confirms his friendship and this is cemented when he eventually [[Quitting The Sauce|puts his life in Jonas's hands and sobers up]].

Daniel and Jonas appear to get along for a while, however, as Jonas bonds with Bree while they are [[Bedside Manner|deprogramming]] her from her brainwashing by the [[Hymn of One]], Daniel gets angry at Jonas. He claims that Jonas's tactics are [[Taking Advantage of Her|unethical]] and that he is using her depleted state of mind to get close to her.

After Bree [[The Morning After|goes missing]] again, Jonas gets angry at Daniel [[Mr. Park Ranger|believing]] that he cares more about flirting with Sarah than looking for Bree. Soon, Jonas becomes so fed up with Daniel and Sarah's budding relationship that he [[In (Search of) sanity...|leaves California]] to stay with Taylor in [[Zavalla|Texas]]. Shortly after Sarah and Daniel's relationship [[Dude Back Off|breaks up]] though, Taylor and Jonas [[Going Back to Cali|return to California]]. When asked by Taylor how he feels about the state of Sarah and Daniel's relationship, Jonas replies that he is probably not the best person to answer that question.

Jonas and Daniel team up to [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 1 of 12 – 8 am|save Bree]], but after their [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 10 of 12 – 5 pm|attempts fail]], Daniel becomes angry and [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 11 of 12 – 6 pm|takes it out on Jonas]]. Daniel accuses Jonas of being responsible for Bree's death, and expresses his anger over the fact that Jonas had slept with Bree. Jonas, still dazed by the encounter, does not reply. Later, though, it appears that they made up, as Daniel [[lonelygirl15 Season Finale 12 of 12 – 7 pm|shares a message from Bree]] with Jonas.

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===Daniel and Sarah===
[[Image:0199-Daniel-Sarah-Shower.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Sarah hopes for the best shower, ever!]]
[[Image:0206-DanielSarahToenails.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Daniel paints Sarah's toenails.]]
Sarah often uses strange flirting tactics with Daniel. She first [[Crazy Emo Chick|holds a tube of lipstick up to Daniel's back]], pretending that it is a gun. She then pantses Daniel. Later, [[No Trespassing|she brags]] that she can tie a cherry stem into a knot with her tongue. While these are not "conventional" ways of flirting, it is clear that Sarah is attempting to get attention from Daniel.

Sarah continues to try and [[Let's Play Doctor|get Daniel's attention]], pulling her shirt down for him to use the stethoscope. He rejects her advances, telling her to "calm down, tiger." However, Daniel begins to warm towards Sarah as she expresses a common interest in chocolate frosted doughnuts.

After Sarah [[CAMP PLAY|travels to LA]] to be with Jonas and Daniel, they go to the [[site of the camp play]] to help look for a package left by [[Bree's parents#father|Bree's dad]]. However, she gets distracted by her desire to shower. Daniel promises Sarah the best shower she's ever had in return for her help looking for the package. Sarah smiles and whispers something in Daniel's ear, presumably in regards to him joining her in the shower. This causes Daniel to laugh and shake his head.

After they [[Opening the Box|return to Jonas's house]], Sarah surprises Daniel while he is taking the trash out. She pretends to be the Order, saying that she has plans for Daniel to be her personal slave. He laughs and calls her a freak, but remains quiet when she responds with, "But I'm your freak." Later, while [[Entertaining Myself|pretending that P. Monkey is Daniel]], Sarah mimes kissing him and holding the puppet up to her chest. She says that that is Daniel's "favorite part."

A few days later, while [[It's A Cult|spying on the Hymn of One seminar]], Daniel's cap from [[CAMP PLAY|a previous video]] is on Sarah's head; later in the video, it's back on Daniel's head. When the trio goes to [[Getting Her Back|rescue Bree]], Sarah continuously makes moves on Daniel in the car, telling him that there are better ways to relieve stress than by tapping his hands incessantly. When Sarah gets wrestled and chased by the Order guards, Daniel runs after her and refuses to leave until he knows she's escaped the guard.

While staying in the cabin Sarah and Daniel continue to bond. Daniel even [[Bedside Manner|paints Sarah's toenails]]. They later share a laugh over Daniel's [[Taking Advantage of Her|impersonation]] of [[Purple Monkey|P. Monkey]].

When Bree goes [[The Morning After|missing]] again, Daniel and Sarah [[Mr. Park Ranger|flirt]] while searching for her; Daniel complimenting Sarah on her nice derriere, while Sarah calls Daniel a naughty park ranger. Jonas later finds the two of them [[In (Search of) sanity...|giggling and goofing around on a sofa]], which causes him to leave the house and stay with [[Taylor]]. After Jonas is gone, Daniel and Sarah enjoy some [[Rockin' the Boat|R&R time]], leading many to believe that the two have sex. However, soon after this, Sarah posted a [[MySpace]] entry referring to Daniel as [http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=181223773&blogID=283146234 clingy]. She then posted a [[Dude Back Off|video blog]] saying that she's no [[pop culture references|Mrs. Cleaver]] and that Daniel needs to "chill." She continues her [[All Wet|negative attitude]] as she and Daniel visit the yacht club, accusing him of being "snippy." Later, when [[Spencer]] [[Mission Beta|asked Daniel]] if he still had feelings for Sarah, Daniel replied with a very emphatic "no!"

Right before they were about to rescue Bree, Sarah [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 1 of 12 – 8 am|stole the car keys]] to prevent Daniel from going. She asserted that Bree would never love him and begged him not to go. However, Daniel accused Sarah of being manipulative and went anyway. After Bree's death though, Daniel [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 11 of 12 – 6 pm|admitted that he didn't mean what he said]]. Sarah also admitted that she loves Daniel, but decides that she can never compete with his love for Bree and claims that she is giving up trying.

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===Daniel and Taylor===
[[Image:0185-TaylorSmiling.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The future Mrs. Daniel Beast.]]
When Daniel [[No Trespassing|first meets Taylor]], he becomes very impressed with her when she tells him how she hacked into some websites to obtain Jules's address. "She's S-M-R-T," he whispers, and jokingly claims "I'm gonna marry this girl."

Later, Taylor says that she is [[I Know What Boys Like|upset that Bree is missing]] and is especially worried about how Daniel is handling it. In [[Let's Play Doctor]], Daniel, yet again, expresses his pride in Taylor's computer hacking skills.

After watching [[Comfort Food]] Taylor responds to Daniel. Her actions and demeanor in [[My Sister = Slut]], including her reference to Daniel's S-M-R-T comment, show her growing affections back at him.

Later, when Sarah [[Dude Back Off|blows Daniel off]], Taylor informs Daniel that he is [[Going Back to Cali|better than that]], and that he should not let her sister's "act" bring him down.

===Daniel and Mallory===
[[Image:0274-DanielAndMallory.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Beauty and the Beast]]
[[Image:0274-MalloryPleasedAfterDanielKissedHer.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Does she [[l'care]] for him?]]
[[Mallory]] is a girl Daniel met after returning home, trying to lead a normal life. He's only been dating her [[Drunken Yodeling|for about a week]], but he describes her as "pretty great" and says "she rocks".

The first time we really see her, the two go on a "[[Hot Date|hot date]]", watching a movie and grabbing something to eat afterwards. While eating, Mallory challenges Daniel to a telling of "[his] life, up to this point in 25 words or less.".<br>
Daniel lies to her, but doesn't reveal what he told her. He explains "[...] The thing is, I really like her and I-I just wonder if she's..gonna like me after she find out how fucked up my life is. I don't want to ruin that.".

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==Jonas==

===Jonas and Bree===
''See [[#Bree and Jonas|Bree and Jonas]]''

===Jonas and Damien===
[[Image:DamienJacket.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Damien ''really likes'' Jonas's jacket.]]
Damien is a man who flirts with Jonas at [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)|the party]]. Jonas seems embarrassed by his advances.
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===Jonas and Carla===
[[Image:CarlaJonasFace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Jonas is embarrassed by Carla's advances.]]
Carla is a guest at [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)|the party]] who offers Jonas her room key. Jonas seems embarrassed, and quickly changes the subject. After Bree's death, Carla and her boyfriend, Jonas's cousin, Toby, [[Speak to Me!|visit Jonas]] to help him cope. Carla flirts with Jonas, in an attempt to cheer him up, but Jonas completely ignores her and doesn't say a word. This leads Carla to question whether Jonas is a mute.
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===Jonas and Daniel===
''See [[#Daniel and Jonas|Daniel and Jonas]]''

===Jonas and Taylor===
[[Image:194-Jonas Taylor Pickup Line.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Jonas is shocked by the success of his pickup line.]]
In [[Let's Play Doctor]], Jonas jokingly uses a cheesy pickup line on Taylor. Taylor admits that she's falling for the line, but then becomes embarrassed and blushes. Jonas puts his arm around Taylor comfortingly. After Bree [[The Morning After|goes missing]], Jonas marvels at [[Mr. Park Ranger|Taylor's hacking abilities]], saying that she should work for a spy agency. After Jonas becomes upset by the growing [[In (Search of) sanity...|closeness]] between Sarah and Daniel, he decides to head out to [[Zavalla]], Texas and stay with Taylor. However, when a forum member questions Taylor on the {{forum|11799|nature of their stay together}}, she replies that Jonas is not her type, and that he should be more concerned about "another lady in [her] house who has her eyes on him." Taylor later [[My Mom's A Freak!|mocked]] the interaction between her mom and Jonas using Troll Dolls.

Jonas later [[My Dad Died Too|expressed]] how worried he was about the stress Taylor's mom's immaturity was having on Taylor. As the two [[Going Back to Cali|headed back to California]], Jonas spent a great deal of time "checking Taylor out." Jonas also seemed impressed that when he and Taylor were [[Hope He's Not Mad|discussing their future goals]], Taylor stated she wanted to invent the cure for cancer.

After Jonas gets [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 10 of 12 – 5 pm|stabbed]] while attempting to rescue Bree, he apologizes to Taylor for bringing her into the middle of all of the craziness that is his life. However, Taylor insists that she wants to be here with him. After Jonas is patched up and Bree dies, Taylor privately [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 12 of 12 – 7 pm|admits to the camera]] that she knew all along that they couldn't save Bree, and simply tagged along because she wanted to be there when Jonas realized the same. She hoped that if she was there when that happened, he would finally see ''her''. However, as she sees Jonas become withdrawn and wander along the beach by himself, she realizes that without Bree he is no longer Jonas, and decides to head back to [[Zavalla|Texas]] with her [[Sarah|sister]].

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===Jonas and Sarah===
[[Image:0218-SarahandJonas.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Jonas knows Sarah always looks great.]]
In [[Let's Play Doctor]], Jonas jokingly flirts with Sarah, asking her what she's doing later. Sarah responds with "It involves D batteries and makes a lot of noise". Some could construe this as Sarah flirting with him. Also, in Sarah's [http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=181223773&blogID=260235185&MyToken=010e6f4e-63b4-4af5-baef-d34bed84dbe2 Myspace blog], she hinted at a possible attraction to Jonas.

In [[CAMP PLAY]], Jonas compliments Sarah on looking great after a long bus ride. However, Sarah rejects his advances, telling him that if he gets any closer, she'll breathe on him. Later on, he comments sarcastically on her choice of ''killer hiking shoes'' without much success.

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===Jonas and Taylor's mom===
[[Image:TrollDolls.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Has Taylor's mom concocted a serum that will turn Jonas into trait [[Taylor's Troll Dolls|troll]]?]]
On the {{forum|11799|forums}}, [[Taylor]] warned that [[Jonas]] should keep an eye out for her mother's advances. Taylor's worry was not unmerited, as we soon find out that she [[My Mom's A Freak!|attempted]] to give Jonas a beer and get him into bed. Jonas later [[My Dad Died Too|expresses his disgust]] at her behavior and the negative effect it is having on her children.

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===Jonas and Nikki Bower===
''See [[#Nikki Bower and Jonas|Nikki Bower and Jonas]]''

==Gemma==

===Gemma and Sam===
[[Image:GemmaRemembersSam.gif|thumb|right|200px|Gemma reminisces about Sam.]]
Sam was a boy Gemma [[It's Not Your Decision|had a crush]] on at the age of 13. His parents owned a petrol station in the town adjacent to her community. However, when Gemma's parents found Sam's name in her diary, they forbade Gemma to ever see Sam again. Her family used a different petrol station from then on.
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===Gemma and the musician===
[[Image:Gemma and wilted rose.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Gemma is upset after her bad date.]]
Gemma went on [[Bad Decisions|three dates with a musician]]. She found herself very attracted to him because of his musicality. She pretended to like the same bands as he did, simply because she found him so charming. However, at the intermission of a concert that they went to, another girl gave the musician a hug and a kiss on the cheek. When Gemma asked him about it, he got defensive and said that they hadn't been dating for very long and he could do what he wanted. This made Gemma upset. Some fans have speculated the musician to be [[Finn]], who appeared at Alex's [[Uncle Dan|fashion party]].
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===Gemma and Brother===
[[Image:Brother4.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Gemma must pay after screwing over Brother.]]
Gemma and [[Brother]] were in some kind of romantic relationship at her Uni. She used her closeness to Brother to tip-off [[War Pylol]] as to his location. Their brief relationship is referenced in [[Tachyon]]'s [[Puzzle (Language Labs)]].
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==Alex==

===Alex and Daniel===
''See [[#Daniel and Alex|Daniel and Alex]]''

===Alex and David===
[[Image:0154-AuntAlexGettingAngry.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This is why you shouldn't mess with Alex.]]
David was a guest at Alex's [[Uncle Dan|fashionista party]]. He got very upset that Alex was seeing a 19 year-old Daniel. Alex ends up throwing a drink in his face. There is speculation that David is Alex's ex-husband.
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==Sarah==

===Sarah and Daniel===
''See [[#Daniel and Sarah|Daniel and Sarah]]''

===Sarah and Jonas===
''See [[#Jonas and Sarah|Jonas and Sarah]]''

===Sarah and Jay===
[[Image:Sarah Laughing.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Sarah laughs off Jay's rejection.]]
In her [http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=181223773&MyToken=ccf54231-2894-4567-95e0-b6d080509abaML MySpace] blog, Sarah says she hooked up with a boy named Jay behind the pig stalls at the fair. However, afterwards, Jay ignored Sarah and expressed interest in a girl named Vanessa, who he ended up taking to the prom. Sarah later saw Jay at a bar and attempted to make him jealous by making out with the bartender. Jay could also be a reference to LGPedia's old admin [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]]
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===Sarah and the bartender===
[[Image:Sarah Magners.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Sarah enjoys the rewards of dating a bartender.]]
After spotting her ex at a bar, Sarah decided to make him jealous by dancing on the table with her friend Brittany and kissing the bartender. By the end of the night, the bartender "had enough material to keep himself company for eternity." [http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=181223773&blogID=266875526&Mytoken=81883FDC-EB12-4545-BA0821BFF8286CCF29802658]
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===Sarah and Joe===
[[Image:0268-Sarah-Joe.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Joe hoped to get lucky. ;)]]
Whoever Joe is, he never much stood a chance. We [[Sexy Librarian ;)|witness]] him trying to reach Sarah on her cell phone, to which Sarah replies that he's one of the mistakes she's made. She later jibes, ''"Bet he thought he'd get lucky tonight. Then again... so did I."''
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===Sarah and Gross Guy===
[[Image:0282-SarahLied.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Gross Guy was pretty horrible.]]
In the video [[Gross Guy]], Taylor witnesses a literally "gross" guy (who she appropriately nicknames Gross Guy), come back to [[Taylor's bedroom|their house]] in [[Zavalla]] with Sarah around 4 a.m. Sarah later confesses to Taylor in the video [[Sister to Sister]] that she doesn't remember meeting Gross Guy, and that he injured her. There is major speculation that Gross Guy raped Sarah, but it is highly unlikely, as Sarah told Gross Guy to "get the fuck out of my house!"
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==Taylor==

===Taylor and Daniel===
''See [[#Daniel and Taylor|Daniel and Taylor]]''

===Taylor and Jonas===
''See [[#Jonas and Taylor|Jonas and Taylor]]''

===Taylor and Perry===
[[Image:0202-SarahEyeRoll.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Sarah is disgusted by her sister's hookup.]]
When Sarah's friend Perry [[Entertaining Myself|went to retrieve]] his shirt from her house, he ended up spending time with Taylor. This encounter resulted in a hickey on Taylor's neck, much to the disgust of Sarah, who thought Perry was too old for her. However, Taylor defended her actions, saying that Perry wouldn't be 18 for two more months and that he was both nice and "kinda cute."

[[Image:0230-SpencerAndTaylor.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Is Spencer reenacting the infamous [[My First Kiss|yawn technique]]?]]
===Taylor and Spencer===
In [[The Bree Solution]], Taylor and [[Spencer]] spend time alone at Spencer's apartment to try to read the documents found by Daniel and Sarah in [[All Wet]]. This hints at some flirting. However, in [[We Have A Plan]], Spencer refers to Taylor as his "little sister," thus nixing any discussions of a romantic relationship between the two for the time being. However, rumors started up again after the two got excited over Taylor's [[Mission Gamma|defeat of Pacman]]. Their mutual, nerdy enthusiasm leads Sarah to exclaim that she believes her sister has found her future husband. Although in the [[The Serum]] they seem much less flirty.
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==Taylor & Sarah's Mother==
===Taylor & Sarah's Mother and Father===
[[Image:0221-Taylor-Parents.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Taylor's parents' relationship is "topsy-turvy."]]
Though it remains unclear of what exactly happened between the two, the current situation is that Taylor and Sarah's parents are recently divorced. From what is seen in [[My Mom's A Freak!]], their mother is clearly choosing to be promiscuous with the reasoning that if her husband's won't act his age, why should she?
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===Taylor & Sarah's Mother and Jonas===
''See [[#Jonas and Taylor's mom|Jonas and Taylor & Sarah's Mother]]''
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===Taylor & Sarah's Mother and D-C-Cubed===
[[Image:0221-Taylor-Jonas-DCCC.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Taylor admits that the kids who go to DCCC aren't the "sharpest tools in the box."]]
[[D-C-cubed]] is the nickname given by Taylor for her mother's first 'boy toy.' Being a current student of Dallas County Community College, Taylor [[My Mom's A Freak!|found him]] to be both too stupid and too young (being 21 years old). Taylor also believed that the only reason her mother began dating him was to get back at her husband for dating a 19 year old.
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===Taylor & Sarah's Mother and Jack===
[[Image:0268-Sarah-Jack.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Sarah finds her mother's hookup "inappropriate"!]]
In [[Sexy Librarian ;)]], Sarah witnesses Jack's influence on her home by showing Jack's truck outside and his clothes sprawled inside. While Sarah concedes that he's at least older than D-C-Cubed, she still reckons he's still in his mid-twenties.
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==Nikki Bower==

===Nikki Bower and Jonas===
[[Image:NBR broncos.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Nikki is all dressed up for a fun-filled evening bucking broncos.]]
Nikki Bower has had a long-standing crush on Jonas. In [[Happy Holidays LG15 - NBR 8]], Nikki made a holiday card for Jonas which she sealed with a kiss. She also asked Jonas to call her. In [[School's In Session! - NBR Investigates]], Nikki asks Jonas to take off his shirt more, saying that she hasn't gotten her fill. In [[The Ceremony Girl?! - NBR Investigates]], Nikki expresses her shock at Jonas's gun use, and says that the only type of guns she wants to see from him are his "guns" (as in, his arm muscles). She also doodled "Nikki *hearts* Jonas" on a notepad. In [[Bucking Broncos - NBR Investigates]], Nikki invites Jonas to buck broncos and have a beer with her.

Even after a long absense, Nikki appears to continue her crush on Jonas, for on October 6th, 2007, she posted [[When Nikki Attacks...]], a video in which she makes out with a picture of Jonas.
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==Sonia==

===Sonia and Carl===
[[Image:Sonya2.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Sonia and Carl argue at Alex's party.]]
Sonia and Carl are a dysfunctional couple we meet at Alex's party. Carl seems abusive. Later Sonia and Carl show up with Bree in [[Sing With Me|Sing With Me]] acting completely differently. They are calm and almost emotionless. Sonia and Carl appear to be the leaders of the Hymn of One during the [[It%27s A Cult|seminar]]. Sonia and Carl have since broken up after Sonia [[We All Make Mistakes|realized]] the evils of The HoO.
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==Carl==

===Carl and Sonia===
''See [[#Sonia and Carl|Sonia and Carl]]''
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==Spencer==

===Spencer and Taylor===
''See [[#Taylor and Spencer|Taylor and Spencer]]''
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==Carla==

===Carla and Jonas===
''See [[#Jonas and Carla|Jonas and Carla]]''
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===Carla and Toby===
[[Image:Carla and Toby.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Carla's such a flirt!.]]
Carla is a very flirty girl, who seems to be able to manipulate Toby to her will with her feminine wiles. She is able to [[Speak to Me!|convince him]], despite much protest, to stay with Jonas at his parents' house after [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 10 of 12 – 5 pm|Bree's death]] and to follow Jonas as he goes for a run once they are there.
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==Toby==

===Toby and Carla===
''See [[#Carla and Toby|Carla and Toby]]''
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[[Category: Characters]]

Sarah

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{{Person
| name = Sarah
| image = 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg
| age = 18
| birthday = ("Aries")
| youtube = soccerstar4ever
| myspace = skyisempty99
| forum-posts = SkyIsEmpty
| actor = [[Alexandra Dreyfus]]
| first = [[Crazy Emo Chick]]
| last = [[Behind The Bushes]]
| color = #976
| blogs = [[:category:Sarah's blogs|List of Sarah's blogs]]
}}
'''Sarah''' is the sister of [[Taylor]]. Taylor first mentions and talks about her in the video [[Practice Sucked :(]]. She was also referenced several times on Taylor's [[MySpace]]. They both live in [[Zavalla]], Texas.

==Background==
[[Bree]], [[Daniel]], and [[Jonas]] met Sarah at a park in [[Crazy Emo Chick]], which marked Sarah's first appearance on video. Sarah's behavior in this encounter was clearly more mischievous than Taylor had earlier implied.

As far as anyone can tell from the video, the original plan was for Bree, Daniel, and Jonas to meet Taylor a local park. The plan soon changed for unknown reasons, however, as Sarah showed up instead, scaring the [[BDJ|Trio]] by faking she had a gun on Daniel's back. Before anyone was the wiser, she demanded the camera be shut off.

During the "blackout," Sarah apparently explained herself, and revealed that the "gun" on Daniel was in reality a stick of lipstick. Sarah also had another chance to surprise Daniel and subsequently "pantsed" him. Needless to say, Daniel's first impression of Taylor's sister wasn't friendly.

While Sarah's been willing to help the [[BDJ|Trio]], she hasn't been too concerned knowing the full story, having said (on [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?p=362812&highlight=#362812|on the in-character chat]), "to be perfectly honest I sort of zoned after "''and then they made me perform a fake ceremony to fool Daniel.''" Nevertheless, she was disappointed to see Daniel and Jonas leave Texas.

As graduation came closer, Sarah decided to go to a party with her friends. She blogged [http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=181223773&blogID=266875526&MyToken=0ee00b4b-bbff-4712-b86a-f1911362e63d] about it on her Myspace and later posted pictures [http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=181223773&blogID=267163142&MyToken=ba91b086-b67c-4ffa-b274-67cd4e762a2f], which Taylor considered offensive. She was so offended that she titled her next video blog, [[My Sister = Slut]].

After Taylor apologized for being insulting, Sarah had a talk with their mother, which according to Taylor [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?p=367189&highlight=#367189] sounded like, ''she was trying to convince mom to let her go somewhere.'' The following morning, Sarah left, only to reappear days later alongside Daniel and Jonas [[CAMP PLAY|in California]].

Sarah overtly and aggressively pursued Daniel in a romantic and/or sexual context. Although Daniel was initially hostile toward her after their first meeting, the summer revealed he had warmed up to Sarah and began to responded to her overtures toward him. However, Sarah soon became annoyed that Daniel was taking things too seriously and had become clingy.[http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=181223773&blogID=283146234] This small rift between the two began to grow when Sarah accidentally dropped Issac Gilman's files [[All Wet|in the water]]. While Sarah claimed it was an accident, Daniel soon beleived her actions were deliberate.

Sarah's relationship with Daniel became further strained as she soon realized that Daniel remained concerned about Bree's safety. Frustrated, Sarah admited to Daniel that she herself didn't care about Bree and that she only cared about Daniel and her sister, Taylor.

When Sarah witnessed Daniel's grief caused by Bree's death, she shouted to Bree that [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 11 of 12 – 6 pm|''"Daniel was always yours . . ."'']], and that she couldn't "compete with a ghost."

Soon after Bree's death, Sarah & Taylor returned to Zavalla, Texas where Sarah returned to her old promiscuous ways, as noted by Taylor in [[Sluttiness Prevails]]. Sarah no longer cares who she goes out with (though Taylor would argue that she still harbors feelings for Daniel), and she's returned to showing her distate of videoblogging.

==Attitude==
Sarah enjoys the persona of a pessimist of sorts with a sarcastic side, having been quoted by Taylor as saying, ''The world is suffering, Taylor. Deal with it.''

According to Taylor, Sarah wasn't always so angry and morbid. In fact in her freshman year of high school, she was a cheerleader. Her pessimism apparently began soon after her parents split up. As Taylor claims, "it's totally an act."

==Notes==
* As Sarah currently has no Youtube account, she uses Taylor's [http://www.youtube.com/soccerstar4ever] account to post videos.

* According to Taylor, Sarah has a pet ferret who, according to a blog on her MySpace, is named [[Colossus]], after a book. The book in question is most likely a collection of poetry by Sylvia Plath.

* Her age is unknown, but from her MySpace blogs, she appears to be a high school student. Taylor mentions in the video [[I Know What Boys Like]] that in freshman year Sarah was a cheerleader, and in her blog, she says talks about the prom and graduation, implying that she just completed her senior year.

* Many of Sarah's gestures carry sexual connotations; initial opening of her shirt, showing her leg flexibility, rolling her tongue, and tying a cherry stem into a knot with her tongue. This trend of sexual openness is prevalent throughout the series.

* In her blog she talks frequently about her [[relationships#Sarah and Jay|relationship]] with a boy named Jay. This is believed to be a reference to LGPedia admin [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]], also known as JayHank.

*She has an affinity for doughnuts. "I like doughnuts" is a phrase she uses often. In her blog she also mentions she is sad because there is no doughnut store by the new cabin after they [[Getting Her Back|rescue Bree]].

===Etymology===
Sarah means "lady" or "princess" in Hebrew. It was the name of Abraham's wife in the Old Testament. She became the mother of Isaac at the age of 90. Her name was once שָׂרָי (Saray), but God changed it (Genesis 17:15)." [http://www.behindthename.com/php/view.php?name=sarah]

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Sarah|link]] for theories about Sarah.

{{CharIndex}}

[[Category:Seen characters]]

Daniel

2007-10-11T21:00:43Z

64.81.108.2: Last appearance

{{Person
| name = Daniel
| image = Danny-166.JPG
| age = 19
| birthday = December 1987? (Sagittarius)
| youtube = Danielbeast
| myspace = daniel_thebeast
| forum-posts = danielbeast
| actor = [[Yousef Abu-Taleb]]
| first = [[The Danielbeast]]
| last = [[Behind The Bushes]]
| color = MidnightBlue
}}
'''Daniel''' a.k.a. '''Danielbeast''' or '''Beast''' is [[Bree]]'s best friend, (on and off) love interest, and the co-star of the Lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].
His first videos were initially made in [[Daniel's bedroom|his bedroom]].

==Plot Background==
Daniel graduated from high school in June 2006 and had a graduation party which Bree was not allowed to attend. When summer began, he taught Bree how to make video blogs and was the one who set up her YouTube account. As the summer progressed, Daniel urged Bree to rebel against her strict parents and was concerned about her religion and the ceremony she was supposed to partake in later that year.

Like many fans, Daniel began to investigate Bree's religion and even decided to follow her around and record her actions, even after Bree had asked him [[My Helper|not to do so.]] On both these occasions [[Lucy]] took Bree somewhere; once to a nearby park for what appeared to be a practice session for the upcoming ceremony and then a trip to a medical complex.

Daniel later broke into Lucy's apartment. He found on her computer pictures of himself. He became worried and posted a video on the subject. His worries had finally been reflected onto Bree, causing her to question her [[Hymn of One|religion]].

When her parents disappeared with the local Deacons, Bree went [[On The Run|on the run]] with Daniel. As a result, Daniel dropped out of school at a junior college, where he was taking film classes, and he left his job at [[Gas 'n Eats]] to accompany Bree.

For the next few months they lived out of Daniel's car, several motels, and even off the streets before coming to [[Jonas]]'s aid in the winter of 2006. While Bree chose to go to Jonas, Daniel chose to go home before ultimately changing his mind and joining Bree and Jonas at [[Christmas Surprise|Christmas]].

In January 2007, Daniel was kidnapped by the Order. The Order used a drugged Daniel in the video [[Miss Me?]], to convince Bree to do the ceremony. Bree and Jonas successfully rescued Daniel and ultimately [[The Human Ransom|foiled the Order's plans]] with the help of [[Tachyon]] and [[Brother]].

After being rescued, Daniel traveled with Jonas and Bree through California, Las Vegas, Mexico, and Texas. Throughout their traveling, Daniel had a tendency to become [[inebriated]] (as noted in [[Uncle Dan]], [[Vegas, Baby!]], [[Spring Break Sucks]], and [[Intervention]]). Before arriving in Texas however, Daniel claimed he was [[Quitting The Sauce|sober once more]] (Daniel's previous [[Drinking Problems|period of sobriety]] followed his rescue from the Order).

He has returned home after the events of the season finale, and has said that he [[My Parents Suck Too|will no longer be blogging]].

==Relationships==
Beginning with [[Boy Problems...]], Daniel's potential romance with Bree has been on and off. Over the course of the series, Daniel's relationship with her has come as close as [[Bree And I Hooked Up|"hooking up"]] and as far as Bree asking Daniel to stop following her.

Daniel is much more social than Bree, having been known to go to parties, which he had coerced Bree into sneaking out to go to. Two of his other friends have been named, [[Paul]] and [[Andrea]].

Since Bree has rejected many of Daniel's advances, Daniel began to show a [[relationships#Daniel and Alex|romantic interest]] in Jonas's Aunt [[Alex]]. This ended soon after it was revealed that she was still involved with the Order.

For a while, in response to the somewhat aggressive advances of [[Sarah]], Daniel seemed to enjoy the attention and flirting, possibly hinting at a growing mutual affection, however, Sarah soon wanted him to [[Dude Back Off|"back off"]] and things cooled down.

In [[Drunken Yodeling]] Daniel announced he had a new love interest, [[Mallory]], and showed us her picture. She appeared in person in [[Hot Date]] where Daniel took her out and then lied to her about his past.

As for Daniel's family, his parents don't have much influence on him, due at least in part to a history of [[inebriated|alcoholism]], to which Daniel struggles with himself. His parents' alcoholism also meant that Daniel spent more time with his [[Comfort Food|grandmother]], which he did until she died.

==Notes==
*Daniel apparently has two cameras. One is a webcam that shoots videos in the standard 4:3 format. The other is a mini-DV handheld that shoots videos in the 16:9 letterbox format. We have seen the webcam in a mirror in the video [[What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?]] and Jonas mentions receiving a tape from Daniel via Bree in the video "Your Decision." Interestingly, Jonas also appears to own both a 4:3 tethered webcam and a 16:9 handheld videocam.

*One of Daniel's better skills is [[Breaking and Entering]]. He has shown this questionable talent when breaking into Lucy's apartment, into a local warehouse, into Alex's Mexican condo, and a hospital in Texas. His response, [[Lying Bastards|"It's all I know how to do really, I guess."]]

===Etymology===
Daniel is a Biblical name from Hebrew (דניאל) meaning "God is my judge." This is the name of the prophet whose story is told in the [[Bible|Book of Daniel]]. One of the stories tells how the prophet Daniel saw visions of supernatural "beasts". These comparisons have been drawn by LG15 fans because Daniel's username on YouTube/Revver, as well as his nickname in the videos is 'Danielbeast'.

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Daniel|link]] for theories about Daniel.

==Links==
DanielBeast's official Myspace account:http://www.myspace.com/daniel_thebeast
:A fan operates an account at http://www.myspace.com/danielbeast (which predates the official one above)

{{CharIndex}}

[[Category:Seen characters]]

Talk:That Arrogant Jerk!

2007-10-03T23:38:59Z

64.81.108.2: /* character evaluation */

== character evaluation ==
i am making a note here regarding sarah's character. i know that a lot of people love sarah and feel that she can do no wrong but my intent is not to pass value judgment. by observing how sarah deals with conflict (and she has many conflicts!), i've noticed that she has difficulty admitting when she is wrong, often lies and is manipulative and yet here in this video she talks about jonas as if she has always had everybody's best internist at heart. this is false. sarah is a narcissist in how she identifies with things outside of herself and now she is extremely arrogant in how she talks about jonas. i can picture her yelling at him "you should have listened to me because i was right and you were wrong!" and completely forgetting about every time sarah screwed up. remember the notes she spilled in the water? remember the syrum that she "lost at a party" and most recently, her attempt to ruin daniel and malory? i feel it is important to take note sarah's disproportionately immature actions and reactions. lastly, there is a reason that the creators posted a video from both daniel and sarah. they WANT us to see the character difference between sarah and daniel. sarah is more aggressive and arrogant while danniel is far more thoughtful and pensive and empathetic. - [[user:platypusrex256|play]] oct 4

Platy, I agree, but I also hate Sarah's guts so I'm not the best person to have on your side over this. I mostly wonder how you posted this ''tomorrow''..[[user:nancypants|Nancypants]] oct ''3''

User talk:Jonpro

2007-09-22T00:56:56Z

64.81.108.2:

Hey, just saw that you've now made 200 edits. Thanks for all the hard work! You ought to put a little something on your user page.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 13:17, 13 December 2006 (CST)

==Categories==
That userbox was also made with you in mind. Glad you liked it! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:03, 17 February 2007 (CST)

== Redirects ==

Whoa, I didn't realize my moving the ceremony page would cause so many double redirects and such. Thanks for getting those! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:47, 18 February 2007 (CST)

:Why redirect the Strange Tag pages? Did I miss a discussion? <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 19:01, 7 March 2007 (CST)

::See [[:Category talk:Strange tags]]. My reasoning is that these pages are rarely updated and don't seem to serve any useful purpose. Do you disagree?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:51, 7 March 2007 (CST)

== Welcome... ==

... to the admin club. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:06, 8 March 2007 (CST)

== Beach Bum? ==
-- Well, Daniel's new video is up on Revver. I also had started the video thread for it.
(Also, when I get a new message like this, do I add it to the talk page of the User who sent it to me or what?)

:No problem. It happened yesterday too with "Sorry Jonas"--[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 5:08pm, 8 March 2007 (CST)

== Facility J ==
Thanks for letting me know about the history part. I'm a wiki noob, and there is much I don't know. One of our team members was working on a recap that wasn't full fleshed out yet. Also, I had set up several links with xxx's as markers for her to fill in the blanks. She had wanted to add some content, and didn't know how, so I was trying to teach her. Maybe this isn't good wiki protocol, I don't know, but It was the only way I could think to do it without doing it for her. Any way, I know your intentions are good. And I know the risks of being edited mercilessly, so it's all good :) - [[User: Luminous|Luminous]]

== Bot ==

How does the bot work exactly? Do you pick the pages it edits or does it find them automatically? --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:03, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

:Cool, thanks for the explanation. It looks like it's a real shame that we didn't think of doing this earlier! The whole lonelygirl15.com site has been really crawling for me. It seems to be faster now so I'll try to authorize it right now. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:34, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

::Okay, LGBot is now authorized. Its edits won't flood the recent changes window. The edits can still be reviewed at [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0&limit=100 recent changes with bots] and of course at [[Special:Contributions/LGBot]]. Thanks for getting this set up. Rock and roll. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:39, 14 March 2007 (CDT)

==bitsie==
hey, any reason you removed the external links?--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 01:53, 15 March 2007 (CDT)

== previous and next by ... ==

<nowiki>*looks at recent changes*</nowiki><br>
You know, this kind of stuff is exactly the reason there's a "bot" flag...
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:23, 29 March 2007 (CDT)

== Images ==
Thanks for the tip. I wondered how others could upload and categorize simultaneously! I'll cast my eyes over the various location pages some time... The little galleries in the discussion pages are a nod to the triple thumbnails you get on the "All Comments" sections on YouTube. It provides a nice header for a mostly textual page. Glad you like them. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:01, 5 April 2007 (CDT)

About the Bunker discussion page Missour Jonpro, I wanted the image to show; I did a screen capture. also, while i'm at it, i think i cought a good screen shot for "They seem a little rough... but they're not so bad". http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/Nieriel_Manwathiel/bree2.jpg
sorry; i need to learn how to do images!! --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== Contacting You ==

Hey, I was just wondering if there was some way I could contact you off the wiki? I've got some ideas on how to help you with things, etc. but I dont really want to have to deal with a billion back/forth public posts. So uh... I dont really know how to ask this without coming off as a stalker... but is there some other way to contact you? An AIM/MSN/YIM... or even an e-mail address? Something we could do more... "privately" and quickly. Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:21, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

:Yeah, when you're on my user page you can click on "E-mail this user" on the left menu. That will open up a form where you can send me an email. Really, though, if it's stuff related to the wiki, it's probably best to talk about it somewhere here. You can leave a message on my talk page or on the talk page of the article that you want to work on or at [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony]] or wherever. That's not to say I don't want you to email me (that's perfectly fine), but if it's something that other people might want to weigh in on, you should probably do it here.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 00:27, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

:: Ah okay no, I do know to generally contact publically. This was more related to some of the things I noticed you were personally working on and how I could help. I figured specifics might just take up other people's times :P So yeah, I'll send you an e-mail tommorow. Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:26, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

:::Ok, cool. Thanks.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 01:31, 16 April 2007 (CDT)

== Banning 205.188.116.* ==

JonPro, rather than banning each individual IP that he uses to vandelize with, how about banning the whole 205.188.116.* subnet. I don't think we have any other users that would block -[[User:Misty|misty]] 19:25, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

:Hmm, is that even possible? I'm not sure if it is. And even then, it's probably best to only block IPs that actually vandalize. It's not that hard to revert edits and block individual users.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:35, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

::Yes, you can ban ranges of IPs with *s. I've had to do it for some forums I run a couple of times. Normally I'd say to ban them individually.. but this person does seem to have some sort of vendetta against you.. maybe you should just ban the range? Just a thought :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:19, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

:::It's a tempting idea, but remember he's been using many different IPs, including many that are not in the 205 range at all. It's quite easy to use the internet through a proxy, although it does slow down your connection a lot. I think blocking IP ranges would not stop him, while still limiting access to honest people that won't understand why they can't edit. Jonpro rocks and no loser with a lame vendetta against him can change that. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:49, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

::::Ah, thanks OiC. I actually find this person kind of amusing. I can't think of many things more pathetic than picking on a person he doesn't even know over the Internet for no apparent reason. Anyway, good idea Misty, but I think OiC makes a good point.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 21:22, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

::::: Just being silly, sorry! --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 22:12, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
::::::gaw, we <3 Jonpro. May I say that you've handled this extremely professionally and have been very mature about it. I don't want to bring more attention to the issue than necessary, but that had to be said. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 23:29, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
==lost work ==
your little minor edit on the character redesign caused me to loose over a half hour of work, how do I prevent edit conflicts?

Thanks, that will be of help. I wish I knew of the inuse template before -[[User:Misty|misty]] 12:04, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

== Helping Out ==

OK, if you guys are happy with me helping out "whenever you can and that's all you can do" then I'm happy. Just give me some notice as to when you switch it on and some sort of tutorial on the new functions would be useful. Oh and thanks for the kind comments! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:40, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

== redesign ==

LOL: I just made the template. - I would like to make this universal. I think the bot could accomplsh that easily:
insert:
<nowiki>{{header|{{PAGENAME}}}} </nowiki>
at the top of each page, and replace
<nowiki>== <title> ==</nowiki>
with:
<nowiki>{{subheader|<title>}}</nowiki>
-[[User:Misty|misty]] 12:13, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

: I think it will look really good on the video pages, with a little work. check out Redesign test. it's a little beyond me to figure out how to fix the spacing problem but maybe you know what to do. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:15, 12 May 2007 (CDT)
Another problem that I just discovered: when I click on the edit link in the subheader tit brings up a blank edit box. before i turned it into a template it brought up the source in the edit box. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 21:25, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

== Your status update ==

Aw, Jon, I've been wondering where you went! Hope everything in your new "status" is a happy thing though. And uh, don't go totally vanishy on us... we neeeeed you xP. Hehe. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:17, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

:Awww, thanks Zoey. And yeah, everything's going good... it's more just that I won't be able to get on the computer as much as I used to. And no worries about me leaving completely, I'll always be hanging around and scanning [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] if nothing else. Anyway, I'm glad you think you need me, and the same right back to you :).--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 00:53, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

== Question for Miles ==

If we're supposed to conjure up a new design, it'd help to know the colorscheme they're going to use for KateModern.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:36, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

== Is it True ==

That lgpedia is looking for new admins. Not that i want it but there are people that i want to have that position. Such as Misty or SilverBullet. [[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 01:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

#I don't think your opinion alone is decisive for who's becoming an admin here and who doesn't.
#Zoey addressed your "nominations" on [[User talk:Houdini|your talk page]] already. The fact that you are trying to play one admin against another only gives them more reason ''not'' to trust your nominations.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 03:40, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

::I agree, Renegade. And I think Zoey summed it up pretty well on your talk page, Houdini. I suggest you read that.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:47, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

hey i didn't see that message until after i wrote this message
so renegade i am not trying to play them against eachother
and jonpro i saw it
and zoey i'm sorry

== KateModern Video Blog Template ==

On the template, because i don't know how to do this can you make it so that the forum links are KateModern forum links, because it links to the posts on Lg15's forum. - [[Houdini]]

:Okay, Houdini, relax please. There is a lot of stuff that needs changing over with the redesign, and it is being done as fast as we can manage. These things take time, as it is such a massive project, so just be patient and trust that we won't forget about anything. (And if we do, well, wait to make sure that we're actually DONE before pointing it out. If we are, THEN feel free to post your concerns.) But pointing out ALL of the things that need to be done atm = not helpful. Like I said, massive project, working on getting everything done as soon as we possibly can. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:39, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

== Lonelygirl15 Missions or Maybe another name ==

Hey i think i am going to start a missions page for lgpedia. All the missions for lg15. - [[Houdini]]

what i mean is like all the mission BDJ had to go through like capturing jules - [[houdini]]

==Bot==
Oh hey Jonpro I saw you made a bot for LG15Pedia I just wanted to know how did you make it?--[[User:LB15|LB15]] 19:13, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

== There i Put it on Lucy's Balcony ==

it is right here

http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy's_Balcony#Missions_Page

== This is Gunna Sound Stupid... ==

So i am getting the idea from two other sites so what. But i tried to talk to Zoey and also Lucy's Balcony and it barely got reactions. So i will try to go to you.

I really want LGPedia to have awards that users can hand out other users for different reasons. I got the idea from wikipedia with their barnstars and lostpedia with their awards. I think we should have the bree award, taylor award, and stuff like that. So lets just say renegade made a great edit then someone can give him an award for making a great edit. --[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:11, 28 July 2007 (CDT)
::I was going to do it myself, just wondering what you or the others thought of it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 12:39, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
==The Ceremony (ritual)==
Hi JonPro, I wanted to tell you that I spent a great deal of time fixing up the ceremony page and wanted to know if you liked it, let me know please! ~[[user:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

Theories About Characters

2007-09-22T00:11:02Z

64.81.108.2: Edited out the redundant and the ridiculous.

This page is used to post your theories about [[characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

==lonelygirl15==

===Bree===
*Her full name is [[Bree|Bree Avery]] because her father's name is [[Bree's parents|Drew Avery]]. (proven)
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*Bree isn't actually dead.
*Bree is not dead, but will not be returning.
*The Order didn't kill Bree, they made it look like she died so Daniel and Jonas would stop chasing her.
*Bree may be [[Kate]]'s biological sister.
*Bree was pregnant when she died

===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for the order.
*Daniel was in love with Bree. (proven)
*Daniel will fall in love with Sarah.

===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*The Order preformed Bree's ceremony incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die.
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill Jonas as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.

===Jonas===
*[[Jonas]] will become depressed after losing Bree and kill himself. (disproven)
*Jonas will tell Emma about his adventures with Bree and Daniel and they will fight the Order.(disproven, she found out by watching the LG15 series)
*Jonas will become brainwashed by the Order.

===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by the Order.
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She is a [[Watcher]]. (disproven)
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down the Order.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract Spencer Gilman.

===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by the Order.
*Sarah is jealous of Bree. (proven)
*Sarah is not related to Taylor by blood.
*Sarah, as a plant by the Order, is present to distract Daniel from the task of locating Bree.
*Sarah loves Daniel. (proven)
*She is trait positive and the creepy guy is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant.
*Sarah is using the serum on herself. (disproven)
*Sarah has destroyed the serum. (disproven)
*Sarah says she is dating multiple guys to make Daniel jealous.
*Sarah has more than a 'passing interest' in Emma
*She hasn't really been injecting Emma with the serum, just a decoy.

===Bree's Mom===
*[[Bree's parents|Bree's mom]] is working against Bree's best interests.
*She is, or is working for, [[OpAphid]].
*Bree's mother married Drew Avery as a command from [[The Order]].
*Bree's mother is part of [[The Resistance]].

===Drew Avery===
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of the Order.
*He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
*He died because he tried to make Bree trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]). (proven)

===Alex===
*[[Alex|She]] is torn between her loyalty to her religion and her loyalty to her [[Jonas|nephew]].
*Alex has done the Ceremony. (disproven)
*She is still with the Order and gave Daniel a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample,she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*She is the one who put the messages in Bree's videos. (proven)
*Alex and Lucy are biological sisters

===Jonas's Parents===
*[[Jonas's parents|They]] are in hiding.
*They are brainwashed by the Order. (proven)
*They will be found by Alex and help the Resistance.
*They are Bree's real parents. (That would be pretty disgusting given the circumstances)
*They are dead. (disproven)
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]] (proven)
*Jonas' mom is the nurse that helped perform Bree's ceremony.
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.

===Julia===
*[[Jules]] is not the [[New Girl|new girl]]. (proven)
*Jules was a plant by the Order to get Bree. (proven)
*Jules is putting the messages in Bree's blogs. (disproven)
*While Jonas is with Taylor, Julia will come and help them contact Spencer Gilman. (disproven)
*Jules is dead.

===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of the Order. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is Tachyon, and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-OpAphid, through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.

===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] is OpAphid or working for them.
*Lucy did the Ceremony. (Proven Incorrect)
*Lucy did not have knowledge of the Ceremony, and was therefore unable to answer Bree's questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help DJE.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of the Resistance.
*The Mistress knows Bree.
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
*The Mistress is in the Order and killed Isaac Gilman.
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
*The Mistress is Jonas's biological mother.(disproven)

===Rebecca===
*Rebecca is the girl in the photograph with Lucy seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]].
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on Bree for OpAphid.

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*Beth is the mole in [[Deep Throat]] (disproven)
*The "rock star" was also a guest of Charlie's birthday party.
*Bree's Real Parents were at the party.

===Bree's Biological Parents===
*Bree's biological parents are Jonas's parents.
*They died and the Order took Bree.
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for the Resistance.
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]], this would also mean that Bree and Jonas are biological brother and sister.

===Isaac Gilman===
*[[Isaac Gilman]] was Bree's real father.
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing Bree's dad was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
*He is the specialist who faked his death in Kate Modern.

===Spencer Gilman===
*[[Spencer]] is Bree's brother.
*Spencer is a plant by the order.
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for Daniel and Jonas: save the other ceremony girls.
*Spencer will see KateModern and attempt to break back into the Wyman Foundation and steal Kate's blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*Spencer will no longer appear.
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative.
*Spencer and Taylor will eventually end up together

===Nikki Bower===
*[[Nikki Bower|She]] will find where Bree is being kept and be brainwashed by the HoO. (disproven)
*Alternatively, OpAphid will kill her. (disproven, the creators (including Nikki Bower creator, Amanda Goodfried) cannot legally use OpAphid in their storyline)
*She is [[LaRezisto]].

===The Watchers===
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting BDJ, not trying to kidnap them.

===Shadows===
*[[Shadows]] and Watchers are against each other within the HoO.

===LaRezisto===
*[[LaRezisto]] will contact Daniel and Jonas and together they will get over their feelings for Bree and save the other girls. (partially proven, he has contacted Jonas)
*LaRezisto is Sophie. (disproven)
*LaResisto is Cassie.
*LaRezisto is actually the Order.
*LaRezisto is Scott.
*LaRezisto is Bree coming back from the dead.
*LaRezisto is Nikki B.
*LaRezisto is Paul and/or Andrea
*LaRezisto is/are Jonas's parents trying to goad him into saving more girls. (disproven)
*LaRezisto is working against [[TAAG]].
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of Daniel's house. He was responsible for Deep Throat and for Alex's betrayal of the Order. When Bree returned to the Hymn Of One unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls.
*LaRezisto is Deep Throat/Alex.
*LaRezisto is Bree's adoptive father, and he didn't die from the gun shot.
*LaRezisto is Spencer.
*LaRezisto is Lucy.

===Scott===
*[[Scott]] will convince Sarah to rejoin TAAG to save Emma.(disproven)
*Scott is the Gross Guy.
*[[Scott]] is the [[Watcher]] in [[Stakeout... With A Girl]]

===Emma===
*[[Emma]] is trait positive. (proven)
*She is not Jonas's parent's biological daughter and therefore, not Jonas' biological sister. (proven)
*She is oblivious to her parent's Hymn of One activities.
*Jonas and Daniel will save her from doing the ceremony.
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for the ceremony.
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood, especially the Elders.
*She was abducted as a baby (Dr. Griffin explains in [[Dr. Weirdo]] that as a rule, trait positive girls are abducted as babies).
*She was adopted by Jonas's parents around age 9 (Jonas's parents disappeared 6 years ago and Emma is now around age 15).
*She took Purple Monkey and the other stuffed friends with her when she left.

===Mallory===
*The flickr account is [[Mallory]]'s.
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls.
*Mallory is a plant by the order.
*Mallory is trait positive.
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.

== KateModern ==

===Kate===
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from someone, possibly the Order. The order is the connection to lg15.
*Kate was a Ceremony girl. (disproven)
*Kate is [[Cassie]].
*Kate is [[Tachyon]]. (disproven: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Kate is Trait Positive. (proven)
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*Kate is Lucy. (disproven)
*Kate will join the HoO and Gavin, Tariq, and Charlie will try to save her.
*The same people that kidnapped Jonas, Daniel & Bree in Las Vegas and wiped their memories did the same to Kate (disproven)
*Kate is a parallel character to Bree.
*Kate and Bree are twins. (Disproven: Kate is in her late twenties while at the time of her death Bree was only 17)
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister.
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution. (disproven though she stayed in a hospital for a month because of her dreams.)
*The people that wiped Jonas's parents' memories did the same to Kate.
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Kate is possibly suffering from DID resulting in her loss of memories

===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of the Order.
*Charlie is Tariq's ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is dating Gavin. (proven)
*Charlie is Gemma's ex-flatmate
*Charlie is Gemma's sister
*Charlie was once pregnant and lost the baby through miscarriage, abortion, or adoption.
*Charlie is a parallel character to Daniel and Taylor.
*Charlie's sister and niece are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much.(disproven:Charlie put one message in her video "[[Tell Kim I Love Her]]",to tell her niece that Charlie loves her .)
*Charlie is a parallel character to Sarah.
*Charlie is working for the HoO or, possibly, the Order.

===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.(disproven)
*Gavin will see the lg15 videos and ask Jonas for a loan. (disproven)
*Gavin is a member of the HofO or the Order.
*Gavin is a member of the Resistance.
*Gavin is a parallel character to Jonas, which could mean that he also has connections to the Order.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate.

===Tariq===
*[[Tariq]] has watched [[lonelygirl15]], and has heard of [[the Order]]. He will be the connection between [[Kate]], [[Charlie]], [[Gavin]], himself, and [[Daniel]], [[Sarah]], [[Taylor]], [[Jonas]], and [[Spencer]] (and possibly [[Bree]]). (disproven: he watched the videos, but only after finding the HoO pamphlet.)
*The Order will kidnap Tariq because he researched the Hymn of One after finding the pamphlet.
* Tariq is a parallel character to Daniel.
* Tariq's date will have some connection to HoO/The Order

===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of the Order
*He's a Watcher. (disproven)
*He is Carl (disproven).
*Steve is a parallel character to [[Alex]].
*He will use his inside knowledge to help Kate and her friends.

===Aunt Joan===
*Aunt Joan is related to Jonas.
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with Nikki Bower.

===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and Spencer are half brothers.
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are parallel characters.
*[[The Mistress]] is his mother.
*He is [[LaRezisto]].

== See Also ==
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

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List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

2007-09-17T20:02:50Z

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<li>[[We Reach Out]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
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<li>[[Nothing More, Nothing Less]] {{init|Hymn of One}}
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<li>[[Run!]] {{Init|Taylor}}
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<li>[[Gross Guy]] {{Init|Taylor}}
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*[[#Mourning Bree|Mourning Bree]]
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*[[#Protecting Emma|Protecting Emma]]


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List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

2007-09-15T02:28:48Z

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<li>[[Go For It :)]] {{Init|Emma}}
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*[[#Mourning Bree|Mourning Bree]]
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List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

2007-09-15T02:27:29Z

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<li>[[Run!]] {{Init|Taylor}}
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<li>[[Dirty Secrets]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Gross Guy]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Stupid B!tch!]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Sister to Sister]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Revealing My Secret]] {{init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Shadow of Death]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[What Happened???]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[A New Hope!!!]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Go For It :)]] {{Init|Emma}}
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*[[#Mourning Bree|Mourning Bree]]
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*[[#Protecting Emma|Protecting Emma]]


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List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

2007-09-15T02:26:05Z

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*[[#Mourning Bree|Mourning Bree]]
*[[#Meeting Jonas's Family|Meeting Jonas's Family]]
*[[#Protecting Emma|Protecting Emma]]


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List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

2007-09-15T02:24:59Z

64.81.108.2:

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===Mourning Bree===
<li>[[Speak to Me!]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Sluttiness Prevails]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[The Unsolvable Formula]] {{Init|Spencer}}
<li>[[We Reach Out]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[My Parents Suck Too]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Nothing More, Nothing Less]] {{init|Hymn of One}}
<li>[[I'm Done]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Back to Work]] {{init|Spencer}}

===Meeting Jonas's Family===
<li>[[Remember Them?]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[Hey Dad]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[The Email]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Sexy Librarian ;)]] {{init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Way of the Gun]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[A Family Affair]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Who's Next?]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[Drunken Yodeling]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Eternal Freaks]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Hot Date]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Run!]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Home Invasion]] {{Init|Jonas}}

===Protecting Emma===
<li>[[Grand Canyon]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Dirty Secrets]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Gross Guy]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Stupid B!tch!]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Sister to Sister]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Revealing My Secret]] {{init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Shadow of Death]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[What Happened???]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[A New Hope!!!]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Go For It :)]] {{Init|Emma}}
<li>[[Help Us!]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[Bullsh%t]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Decision Time]] {{init|Daniel}}
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*[[#Mourning Bree|Mourning Bree]]
*[[#Meeting Jonas's Family|Meeting Jonas's Family]]
*[[#Protecting Emma|Protecting Emma]]


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List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

2007-09-15T02:23:04Z

64.81.108.2:

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<ol start="257" style="line-height: 150%;">
===Mourning Bree===
<li>[[Speak to Me!]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Sluttiness Prevails]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[The Unsolvable Formula]] {{Init|Spencer}}
<li>[[We Reach Out]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[My Parents Suck Too]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Nothing More, Nothing Less]] {{init|Hymn of One}}
<li>[[I'm Done]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Back to Work]] {{init|Spencer}}

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<li>[[Remember Them?]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[Hey Dad]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[The Email]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Sexy Librarian ;)]] {{init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Way of the Gun]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[A Family Affair]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Who's Next?]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
<li>[[Drunken Yodeling]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Eternal Freaks]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Hot Date]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Run!]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Home Invasion]] {{Init|Jonas}}

===Protecting Emma===
<li>[[Grand Canyon]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Dirty Secrets]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Gross Guy]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Stupid B!tch!]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Sister to Sister]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Revealing My Secret]] {{init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Shadow of Death]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[What Happened???]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[A New Hope!!!]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Go For It :)]] {{Init|Emma}}
<li>[[Help Us!]] {{init|LaRezisto}}
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*[[#Mourning Bree|Mourning Bree]]
*[[#Meeting Jonas's Family|Meeting Jonas's Family]]
*[[#Protecting Emma|Protecting Emma]]


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