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Storyteller

2007-11-12T00:20:04Z

71.72.253.254: /* Notes */

{{Redearth88
| series = Redearth88
| name = Storyteller
| number = 0008
| image = storyteller.JPG
| caption = Rest in Peace, Maddy.
| blogger = amblyopianne
| date = November 8nd, 2007
| url = [http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=21662479 Watch on MySpace]
| description = I've been documenting the effect that the brutal murders of Maddison Atkins and Adam Wilmott had on their community.
It seems to me that the story isn't quite over because every time I look closer at the details, mysterious events keep happening.
| song =
| tags = {{tags|advertiser}}
| cast =
{{FakeVidChar|[[Maddison]]|[[Faye Austin]]}}
{{FakeVidChar|[[Adam]]|[[Jason Zednick]]}}
{{FakeVidChar|[[Joel Frady]]|[[Jason McRoberts]]}}
{{FakeVidChar|[[Greg Gallows]]|Himself}}
{{FakeVidChar|AcidFingers|Himself}}
{{FakeVidChar|[[User:Kellylen|Kellyn]]|Herself}}
{{FakeVidChar|Perky^|Herself}}
{{FakeVidChar|[[Marla Singer]]|Herself}}
{{FakeVidChar|[[User:Giddeanx|Giddeanx]]|Himself}}
{{FakeVidChar|[[User:-R-|-R-]]|Himself}}
{{FakeVidChar|Ziola|Herself}}
{{FakeVidChar|[[User:Brooklynxman|Brooklynxman]]|Himself}}
{{FakeVidChar|Canadasbaby|Herself}}
{{FakeVidChar|Phipunk|Himself}}
{{FakeVidChar|Aja|Herself}}
{{FakeVidChar|micfranxon|Himself}}
{{FakeVidChar|Julie|Herself}}
{{FakeVidChar|ApothosisAZ|Himself}}
{{FakeVidChar|Hallows|Himself}}
| Previous = Divine Intervention?
| Next =
| PreviousB = Myspace Contest
| NextB =
}}

==Transcript==

(''Music Starts: GregGallows, ?, AcidFingers, Kellyn, Perky^ turn on thier cameras'')

'''Marla Singer:''' I knew Maddison.

'''GiddeanX:''' I knew Maddison.

'''-R-:''' I knew Maddison.

'''Ziola:''' I knew Maddison.

'''?:''' I knew Maddison.

'''?:''' I knew Maddison.

'''?:''' I knew Maddison.

'''Brooklynxman:''' Yeah, I knew Maddison.

'''Canadasbaby:''' I knew Maddison...I meet her online.

(''Clip from [[What Happened Today Part 1]]'')

'''Maddison:''' Are you filming?

'''Adam:''' No, I was just... checking out some features.

'''Maddison:''' Stop wasting tape!

'''Adam:''' (''Sarcastically'') Hah. Wasting tape.

(''Clip from [[What Happened Today Part 2]]'')

'''Maddison:''' This has been Maddison Atkins reporting to you from the azalea trail in Nacogdoches. (''Smiles'') Back to you Bob. No? Too much? Okay (''Giggles'')

(''Cut to discovery of pigeon'')

'''Adam:''' You have any crackers and bread?

(''Cut to opening of the first note'')

'''Maddison:''' It has my name on it.

(''Cuts back to player videos'')

'''Giddeanx:''' She was like a sister.

'''phipunk:''' She had this incredible spark in her.

'''GregGallows:''' She was innocent and kind.

'''?:''' and she was refreshing.

'''Hallows:''' young, sweet and innocent.

'''Ziola:''' She had this aura about her.

'''?:''' She was just an average girl.

'''?:''' Real.

'''?:''' She was very brave.

'''?:''' A fire cracker.

'''Marla Singer:''' Tragically Famous.

'''?:''' and funny.

'''Aja:''' She was the shit.

'''Perky^:''' She was perky.

'''AcidFingers:''' She was so young.

'''micfranxon:''' She was the kind of person who would go out of her way to help someone.

'''Brooklynxman:''' She was unique.

'''Kellyn:''' She was smart.

'''CanadasBaby:''' just like us.

'''?:''' She was so friendly.

'''?:''' a good person.

'''Julie:''' She was everyone's friend.

(''Clip of Maddison plays while audio continues. Clips from [[A little help from Whiskey]] and [[Summary (April 20th)]]'')

'''Kellyn:''' She was funny, she was excentric.

'''?:''' She was amazing.

(''On Screen'')

'''Maddison:''' There is something in this note.

(''Off Screen'')

'''?:''' She was charismatic.

'''?:''' She was so compelling.

'''?:''' She was out of my league.

(''On Screen'')

(''Adam reads.'')

'''Maddison:''' Show off.

(''Off Screen'')

'''?:''' She was full of life.

'''?:''' She had a big heart.

'''?:''' Dedicated, caring.

'''?:''' innocent.

'''ApothosisAZ:''' She was in way over her head.

(''Maddison clip finishes'')

(''On screen'')

'''?:''' I tried to help her...

'''?:''' I tried to help her...

'''?:''' and I tried to help...

'''Ziola:''' I tried my best to help her...

'''?:''' but...

'''?:''' I couldn't...

'''Brooklynxman:''' I couldn't...

'''Marla Singer:''' I couldn't...

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''GiddeanX:''' I miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''Ziola:''' and I miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''Aja:''' I miss her, so much.

'''CanadasBaby:''' I miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''MarlaSinger:''' I miss her.

(''Clip of Maddison plays while audio continues'')

(''Off Screen'')

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''ApothosisAZ:''' I miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''?:''' I really miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her.

'''?:''' I miss her, alot.

(''Clip ends'')

(''On screen'')

'''Julie:''' But maybe there is something I can do now, to help her.

'''Acidfingers:''' Maybe there is something I could do now.

'''Perky^:''' too help her.

'''phipunk:''' I wish I could help her.

'''GregGallows:''' to help her.

'''?:''' to help her.

'''Julie:''' to avenge her death.

'''Marla Singer:''' If you can help.

'''GregGallows:''' If you can help.

'''?:''' If you can help.

'''AcidFingers:''' If you can help.

'''Aja:''' If you can help.

'''-R-:''' If you can help.

'''micfranxon:''' If you can help.

'''Canadasbaby:''' If you can help.

'''?:''' If you can help.

'''Julie:''' If you can help.

'''Ziola:''' If you can, help.

(''Footage from [[No More]] plays'')

'''Adam:''' That was a long drive.

'''Maddison:''' Yeah, it was.

(''Adam gets out of the car, Maddison -- still holding the camera -- gets out of the car as well, and places the camera on the roof of the car while she closes the car door. The view from the camera shows a trailer or a single-story house. The front door is open'')

'''Maddison:''' Oh, I know. Do you have the keys?

'''Adam:''' (''off-camera'') Yes ma'am.

(''Maddison closes the car door and walks off towards the right of the camera. After a few seconds, we see Adam enter from the right of the camera with a small black sports bag'')

'''Maddison:''' (''off-camera'') Got it?

'''Adam:''' Yup. (''holds hands out indicating the area'') This is Uncle Joe's! (''sound of car door or trunk closing'')

(''A man enters from the front door with his hands behind his back.'')

'''Maddison:''' (''still off-camera'') Hey!

(''The man, still standing in front of the doorway to the house, puts his right hand next to his side. He is holding a gun. Adam drops his bag and starts running back to the right of the camera'')

'''Adam:''' Maddison, run!

(''The man aims the gun and shoots. Someone -- possibly Maddison -- screams'')

'''Maddison:''' Adam!

(''The man walks toward the camera and aims towards the ground off to the right of the camera. He shoots again, twice. Maddison screams. The man walks off-camera to the right. Maddison then enters the camera's view, running on from the left of the camera and then off to the right. The man appears from the left of the camera, stops right in the center of view, aims, and shoots. He walks off to the right of the camera. We hear two more gunshots.'')

(''Image of a red vial labeled [[redearth88]] and a voice saying, "Amblyopianne, the universe is wider than our views of it."'')

==Notes==
This video was submitted to myspace as an entry in their Storyteller competition.

Storyteller

2007-11-12T00:19:19Z

71.72.253.254: /* Notes */

Storyteller

2007-11-11T02:57:28Z

71.72.253.254: Still working on names placing so i do not loose my work.

{{Redearth88
| series = Redearth88
| name = Storyteller
| number = 0008
| image = storyteller.JPG
| caption =
| blogger = Clara (amblyopianne)
| date = November 8nd, 2007
| url = http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=21662479
| description = I've been documenting the effect that the brutal murders of Maddison Atkins and Adam Wilmott had on their community.
It seems to me that the story isn't quite over because every time I look closer at the details, mysterious events keep happening.
| song =
| tags = {{tags|advertiser}}
| cast =
{{FakeVidChar|[[Maddison]]|[[Faye Valentine]]}}
{{FakeVidChar|Cast of Thousands|Fans of Maddison Atkins}}
| Previous = Divine Intervention?
| Next =
| PreviousB = Myspace Contest
| NextB =
}}
==Transcript==

[Music Starts]

[GregGallows, ?, AcidFingers, Kellynn, Perky turn on thier cameras]

MarlaSinger: I knew Maddison.

GiddeanX: I knew Maddison.

-R-: I knew Maddison.

Ziola: I knew Maddison.

?: I knew Maddison.

?: I knew Maddison.

?: I knew Maddison.

Hallows: Yah, I knew Maddison.

Canadasbaby: I knew Maddison...I meet her online.

[Clip from episode one]

Maddison: Are you filming?

Adam: [distorted, off screen] Naw, I'm just checking out something.

Maddison: Stop waisting tape!

Adam: [off screen]Waisting tape.

[Clip from episode two]

Maddison: This has been Maddison Atkins reporting to you from the Azelea Trail in Nacogdoches.
Back to you, Bob. No. Too much? OK. (laugh).

[Cut to discovery of pigeon.]

Adam: Maybe crackers and bread?

[Cut to opening of the first note.]

Maddison: It has my name on it.

[Cuts back to player videos]

Giddeanx: She was like a sister.

?: She had this incredible spark in her.

GregGallows: She was innocent and kind.

?: and she was refreshing.

?: young, sweet and innocent.

Ziola: She had this aura about her.

?: She was just an average girl.

?: Real.

?: She was very brave.

?: A fire cracker.

MarlaSinger: Tragically Famous.

?: and funny.

?: She was the shit.

Perky^: She was perky.

AcidFingers: She was so young.

?: She was the kind of person who would go out of her way to help someone.

Hallows: She was unique.

Kellynn: She was smart.

CanadasBaby: just like us.

?: She was so friendly.

?: a good person.

?: She was everyone's friend.

[Clip of Maddison plays while audio continues. Clip shows opening the inside of note one and summary video.]

Kellynn: She was funny, she was excentric.

?: She was amazing.

[on screen]

Maddison: There is something in this note.

[off screen]

?: She was charismatic.
?: She was so compelling.
?: She was out of my league.

[on screen]

[Adam reads.]

Maddison: Show off.

[off screen]

?: She was full of life.

?: She had a big heart.

?: Dedicated, caring.

?: innocent.

ApothosisAZ: She was in way over her head.

[Maddison clip finishes]

[on screen]

?: I tried to help her...

?: I tried to help her...

?: and I tried to help...

Ziola: I tried my best to help her...

?: but...

?: I couldn't...

Hallows: I couldn't...

Marla Singer: I couldn't...

?: I miss her.

GiddeanX: I miss her.

?: I miss her.

Ziola: and I miss her.

?: I miss her.

?: I miss her, so much.

CanadasBaby: I miss her.

?: I miss her.

MarlaSinger: I miss her.

[Clip of Maddison plays while audio continues.]

[off screen]

?: I miss her.

?: I miss her.

ApothosisAZ: I miss her.

?: I miss her.

?: I miss her.

?: I miss her.

?: I really miss her.

?: I miss her.

?: I miss her, alot.

[Clip ends]

[on screen]

?: But maybe there is something I can do now, to help her.

Acidfingers: Maybe there is something I could do now.

Perky^: too help her.

?: I wish I could help her.

GregGallows: to help her.

?: to help her.

?: to avenge her death.

Marlasinger: If you can help.

GregGallows: If you can help.

?: If you can help.

AcidFingers: If you can help.

?: If you can help.

?: If you can help.

?: If you can help.

Canadasbaby: If you can help.

?: If you can help.

?: If you can help.

Ziola: If you can, help.

[Footage from No More plays]

Adam: That was a long drive.

Maddison: Yeah, it was.

(Adam gets out of the car, Maddison -- still holding the camera -- gets out of the car as well, and places the camera on the roof of the car while she closes the car door. The view from the camera shows a trailer or a single-story house. The front door is open)

Maddison: Oh, I know. Do you have the keys?

Adam: (off-camera) Yes ma'am.

(Maddison closes the car door and walks off towards the right of the camera. After a few seconds, we see Adam enter from the right of the camera with a small black sports bag)

Maddison: (off-camera) Got it?

Adam: Yup. (holds hands out indicating the area) This is Uncle Joe's! (sound of car door or trunk closing)

(A man enters from the front door with his hands behind his back.)

Maddison: (still off-camera) Hey!

(The man, still standing in front of the doorway to the house, puts his right hand next to his side. He is holding a gun. Adam drops his bag and starts running back to the right of the camera)

Adam: Maddison, run!

(The man aims the gun and shoots. Someone -- possibly Maddison -- screams)

Maddison: Adam!

(The man walks toward the camera and aims towards the ground off to the right of the camera. He shoots again, twice. Maddison screams. The man walks off-camera to the right. Maddison then enters the camera's view, running on from the left of the camera and then off to the right. The man appears from the left of the camera, stops right in the center of view, aims, and shoots. He walks off to the right of the camera. We hear two more gunshots.)

[RedEarth88 bump plays]

Voice: Amblyopianne: the universe is wider than our views of it.

Clara Stokes

2007-07-13T00:18:41Z

71.72.253.254:

{{MaddisonPerson
| name = Clara Stokes
| image =
| age =
| youtube =
| revver = amblyopianne
| myspace =
| actor = Jason Zednick
| first = [[Thesis Statement]]
| last = [[Adam Lamar, Pine Log Editor]]
| blogs =
}}
'''Clara''' is a character in the [[Maddison Avenue|Maddison Atkins ARG]].

Clara is a student at Stephen F. Austin doing a thesis for school. She intends to investigate the effects of [[Maddison Atkins]] and [[Adam|Adam Wilmott's]] deaths on the community.

{{MaddisonCharIndex}}

Talk:Subjects Apprehended

2007-03-28T01:54:43Z

71.72.253.254: /* Audio */

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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-DanielBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-JonasBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-BreeBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
|-
|}
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:39, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
</center>

== Audio ==

Has anyone tried taking a recording of the sounds heard and speeding them up to try and get something? Or reversing it? -MHBus
:The chirping is a slowed sparrows song. I also have isolated the "Jonas"s.

== Transcript ==

There is no discription of the video. I.E. If I wanted to understand the video without actually watching it, I would have no idea what happened except that Bree gasped and said "Jonas?". Also, was Daniel really captured? After all, he's considered chop liver to the order. In [[Miss Me?]] they mock him and say that Bree has "A stronger mind". Plus, you don't see him being captured, like you do Jonas and Bree.--[[User:juniemoon|juniemoon]]

:Feel free to add a description in the transcript. Probably just no one has gotten around to it yet or doesn't know how to describe it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:34, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::Well, I listened to it a couple times and I never heard "Jonas" like people here at the LGpedia claim. I'm guess that, like you say Jonpro, that people don't know quite how to describe it. -MHBus

:::Okay, I attempted a transcript, but that sort of thing isn't really my thing. If someone could improve it, that'd be great.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:33, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::Done. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 20:23, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

== Template discussion / Who is the blogger? ==

Ahh, time to bring up the discussion again. First of all, I don't think {{tl|Aphid}} includes the capability for a cast, probably because there never was one before (exception:[[Miss Me?]]). I'm wondering if we should expand the template to include it. Also, what about credits and categories? Should we start treating OpAphid videos like regular LG15 videos (maybe by using {{tl|Blog4}} with OpAphid as the blogger or something). I'm not sure what's best; just wanted to open up the discussion.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:06, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I think the problem is a different one - is this an OpAphid video at all? The description clearly says "The Order", and it has ''no'' similarity to a previous OpAphid video. While this could, of course, be due to Glenn being replaced, it might as well mean that this is a video from the Order, as ''opposed'' to videos by OpAphid. (Meaning we'd have to add "Order" to Init and create an "order" blog template.)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:11, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I don't think this is an OpAphid video. It isn't labeled OpAphid. Listing it as such without any proof is wrong. I think it should be treated like a regular LG15 video, only with "The Order" listed as the blogger, or even "unknown" as blogger. I agree there should be a "Order" blog template. [[User:Sappho|Sappho]] 20:45, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:: I think we need to establish what the relationship is between OpAphid and the Order. Daniel was Clearly being held by the Order when the Miss me video was made, But they style of the video was clearly OpAhid style. this video had a different style but not so different as to exclude the possiblilty that it was OpAphid. But I think that Both this video and Miss Me should have Blog4 templates, and the OpAphid template should be reserved for videos that are part of the ARG. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 22:26, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:::There is no way this is an OpAphid video. Every single OpAphid video that has been posted has been spooky and has had a lot of cut and paste action. This one has none of the hallmarks of her videos. It is a straight up Order video. I think the OP should be changed to ORD. Just my 2 cents. --Guest
:::: every other OpAphid video was made by Glenn Rubenstein. Maybe this wasn't, thats why the style is different. or maybe its because this is a private video just for order memebers, and the OpAphid video style was directed at a different audience. [[User:Misty|Misty]]
:::You're missing something there, Misty: Miss Me has the eye logo intro, the overbright style, the distorted audio, reverse audio, and, most importantly, the outro ''crediting'' it to OpAphid. It is ''very clearly'' an OpAphid video.
:::Subjects Apprehended has ''nothing'' of that, and isn't even credited to OpAphid in the description. I'd say all signs are pointing at Miss Me being from OpAphid, and Subjects Apprehended being from "The Order", whichever faction of them calls themselves that. (As people pointed out in the forums, it might as well be the ''reformed'' people of the Order, e.g. Jonas's parents.)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:13, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::: no I wasn't missing that, I was saying there are other explanations than this not being an OpAphid video. If OpAphid was making a private report, do you think it would look like the public vlogs? the purpose is different so the style is different. I'm not saying that this is absolutely an OpAphid video, but I don't think you can say this is absolutely not one -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 18:17, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::"This is absolutely not an OpAphid video." :P
:::::Thing is, when broadcasting in public, the group identifies themselves as "OpAphid", which, apparently, is part of the Order. Now, since this is a private message, we can assume it goes to no one else but their own people, right? So why would they identify as a subgroup of the Order in all public, but as soon as they're sending internal, where it is a ''given'' that the sender is part of the Order, and knowing the subgroup would be important, they switch to the meaningless "The Order"?
:::::If this message was really from OpAphid, then there'd be no reason whats-o-ever not say so. Especially in private conversation, where there is nothing to hide.
:::::There is no logical reason why all public videos of OpAphid would have "OpAphid" written all over them, but as soon as they're among their own, they pretend to not exist (while, at the same time, reporting success). It is way, way, way more probable that this is simply a video from another subgroup of the Order, the Resistance, or the Order as a whole.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:48, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::Or the Creators f*cked up. Majorly. :D
If you want to be correct you would have better chances if this were listed as an order video. You have no solid proof to say otherwise. Let us say we find out that Op Aphid did this video or the Watchers alone. We would still be correct. If you label it otherwise and are proven wrong the information was wrong the entire time. -GiddeanX

== Will there be anymore? ==

Is this the ending to the LG15 series? Or will they escape from the Order's evil clutches?

Of course there will be more...

Talk:Subjects Apprehended

2007-03-28T01:53:39Z

71.72.253.254: /* Template discussion / Who is the blogger? */

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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-DanielBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-JonasBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-BreeBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
|-
|}
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:39, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
</center>

== Audio ==

Has anyone tried taking a recording of the sounds heard and speeding them up to try and get something? Or reversing it? -MHBus
The chirping is a slowed sparrows song. I also have isolated the "Jonas"s.

== Transcript ==

There is no discription of the video. I.E. If I wanted to understand the video without actually watching it, I would have no idea what happened except that Bree gasped and said "Jonas?". Also, was Daniel really captured? After all, he's considered chop liver to the order. In [[Miss Me?]] they mock him and say that Bree has "A stronger mind". Plus, you don't see him being captured, like you do Jonas and Bree.--[[User:juniemoon|juniemoon]]

:Feel free to add a description in the transcript. Probably just no one has gotten around to it yet or doesn't know how to describe it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:34, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::Well, I listened to it a couple times and I never heard "Jonas" like people here at the LGpedia claim. I'm guess that, like you say Jonpro, that people don't know quite how to describe it. -MHBus

:::Okay, I attempted a transcript, but that sort of thing isn't really my thing. If someone could improve it, that'd be great.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:33, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::Done. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 20:23, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

== Template discussion / Who is the blogger? ==

Ahh, time to bring up the discussion again. First of all, I don't think {{tl|Aphid}} includes the capability for a cast, probably because there never was one before (exception:[[Miss Me?]]). I'm wondering if we should expand the template to include it. Also, what about credits and categories? Should we start treating OpAphid videos like regular LG15 videos (maybe by using {{tl|Blog4}} with OpAphid as the blogger or something). I'm not sure what's best; just wanted to open up the discussion.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:06, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I think the problem is a different one - is this an OpAphid video at all? The description clearly says "The Order", and it has ''no'' similarity to a previous OpAphid video. While this could, of course, be due to Glenn being replaced, it might as well mean that this is a video from the Order, as ''opposed'' to videos by OpAphid. (Meaning we'd have to add "Order" to Init and create an "order" blog template.)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:11, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I don't think this is an OpAphid video. It isn't labeled OpAphid. Listing it as such without any proof is wrong. I think it should be treated like a regular LG15 video, only with "The Order" listed as the blogger, or even "unknown" as blogger. I agree there should be a "Order" blog template. [[User:Sappho|Sappho]] 20:45, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:: I think we need to establish what the relationship is between OpAphid and the Order. Daniel was Clearly being held by the Order when the Miss me video was made, But they style of the video was clearly OpAhid style. this video had a different style but not so different as to exclude the possiblilty that it was OpAphid. But I think that Both this video and Miss Me should have Blog4 templates, and the OpAphid template should be reserved for videos that are part of the ARG. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 22:26, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:::There is no way this is an OpAphid video. Every single OpAphid video that has been posted has been spooky and has had a lot of cut and paste action. This one has none of the hallmarks of her videos. It is a straight up Order video. I think the OP should be changed to ORD. Just my 2 cents. --Guest
:::: every other OpAphid video was made by Glenn Rubenstein. Maybe this wasn't, thats why the style is different. or maybe its because this is a private video just for order memebers, and the OpAphid video style was directed at a different audience. [[User:Misty|Misty]]
:::You're missing something there, Misty: Miss Me has the eye logo intro, the overbright style, the distorted audio, reverse audio, and, most importantly, the outro ''crediting'' it to OpAphid. It is ''very clearly'' an OpAphid video.
:::Subjects Apprehended has ''nothing'' of that, and isn't even credited to OpAphid in the description. I'd say all signs are pointing at Miss Me being from OpAphid, and Subjects Apprehended being from "The Order", whichever faction of them calls themselves that. (As people pointed out in the forums, it might as well be the ''reformed'' people of the Order, e.g. Jonas's parents.)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:13, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::: no I wasn't missing that, I was saying there are other explanations than this not being an OpAphid video. If OpAphid was making a private report, do you think it would look like the public vlogs? the purpose is different so the style is different. I'm not saying that this is absolutely an OpAphid video, but I don't think you can say this is absolutely not one -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 18:17, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::"This is absolutely not an OpAphid video." :P
:::::Thing is, when broadcasting in public, the group identifies themselves as "OpAphid", which, apparently, is part of the Order. Now, since this is a private message, we can assume it goes to no one else but their own people, right? So why would they identify as a subgroup of the Order in all public, but as soon as they're sending internal, where it is a ''given'' that the sender is part of the Order, and knowing the subgroup would be important, they switch to the meaningless "The Order"?
:::::If this message was really from OpAphid, then there'd be no reason whats-o-ever not say so. Especially in private conversation, where there is nothing to hide.
:::::There is no logical reason why all public videos of OpAphid would have "OpAphid" written all over them, but as soon as they're among their own, they pretend to not exist (while, at the same time, reporting success). It is way, way, way more probable that this is simply a video from another subgroup of the Order, the Resistance, or the Order as a whole.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:48, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::Or the Creators f*cked up. Majorly. :D
If you want to be correct you would have better chances if this were listed as an order video. You have no solid proof to say otherwise. Let us say we find out that Op Aphid did this video or the Watchers alone. We would still be correct. If you label it otherwise and are proven wrong the information was wrong the entire time. -GiddeanX

== Will there be anymore? ==

Is this the ending to the LG15 series? Or will they escape from the Order's evil clutches?

Of course there will be more...

Talk:Subjects Apprehended

2007-03-28T01:45:28Z

71.72.253.254: /* Audio */

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|-
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-DanielBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-JonasBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-BreeBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
|-
|}
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:39, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
</center>

== Audio ==

Has anyone tried taking a recording of the sounds heard and speeding them up to try and get something? Or reversing it? -MHBus
The chirping is a slowed sparrows song. I also have isolated the "Jonas"s.

== Transcript ==

There is no discription of the video. I.E. If I wanted to understand the video without actually watching it, I would have no idea what happened except that Bree gasped and said "Jonas?". Also, was Daniel really captured? After all, he's considered chop liver to the order. In [[Miss Me?]] they mock him and say that Bree has "A stronger mind". Plus, you don't see him being captured, like you do Jonas and Bree.--[[User:juniemoon|juniemoon]]

:Feel free to add a description in the transcript. Probably just no one has gotten around to it yet or doesn't know how to describe it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:34, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::Well, I listened to it a couple times and I never heard "Jonas" like people here at the LGpedia claim. I'm guess that, like you say Jonpro, that people don't know quite how to describe it. -MHBus

:::Okay, I attempted a transcript, but that sort of thing isn't really my thing. If someone could improve it, that'd be great.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:33, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::Done. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 20:23, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

== Template discussion / Who is the blogger? ==

Ahh, time to bring up the discussion again. First of all, I don't think {{tl|Aphid}} includes the capability for a cast, probably because there never was one before (exception:[[Miss Me?]]). I'm wondering if we should expand the template to include it. Also, what about credits and categories? Should we start treating OpAphid videos like regular LG15 videos (maybe by using {{tl|Blog4}} with OpAphid as the blogger or something). I'm not sure what's best; just wanted to open up the discussion.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:06, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I think the problem is a different one - is this an OpAphid video at all? The description clearly says "The Order", and it has ''no'' similarity to a previous OpAphid video. While this could, of course, be due to Glenn being replaced, it might as well mean that this is a video from the Order, as ''opposed'' to videos by OpAphid. (Meaning we'd have to add "Order" to Init and create an "order" blog template.)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:11, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I don't think this is an OpAphid video. It isn't labeled OpAphid. Listing it as such without any proof is wrong. I think it should be treated like a regular LG15 video, only with "The Order" listed as the blogger, or even "unknown" as blogger. I agree there should be a "Order" blog template. [[User:Sappho|Sappho]] 20:45, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:: I think we need to establish what the relationship is between OpAphid and the Order. Daniel was Clearly being held by the Order when the Miss me video was made, But they style of the video was clearly OpAhid style. this video had a different style but not so different as to exclude the possiblilty that it was OpAphid. But I think that Both this video and Miss Me should have Blog4 templates, and the OpAphid template should be reserved for videos that are part of the ARG. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 22:26, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:::There is no way this is an OpAphid video. Every single OpAphid video that has been posted has been spooky and has had a lot of cut and paste action. This one has none of the hallmarks of her videos. It is a straight up Order video. I think the OP should be changed to ORD. Just my 2 cents. --Guest
:::: every other OpAphid video was made by Glenn Rubenstein. Maybe this wasn't, thats why the style is different. or maybe its because this is a private video just for order memebers, and the OpAphid video style was directed at a different audience. [[User:Misty|Misty]]
:::You're missing something there, Misty: Miss Me has the eye logo intro, the overbright style, the distorted audio, reverse audio, and, most importantly, the outro ''crediting'' it to OpAphid. It is ''very clearly'' an OpAphid video.
:::Subjects Apprehended has ''nothing'' of that, and isn't even credited to OpAphid in the description. I'd say all signs are pointing at Miss Me being from OpAphid, and Subjects Apprehended being from "The Order", whichever faction of them calls themselves that. (As people pointed out in the forums, it might as well be the ''reformed'' people of the Order, e.g. Jonas's parents.)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:13, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::: no I wasn't missing that, I was saying there are other explanations than this not being an OpAphid video. If OpAphid was making a private report, do you think it would look like the public vlogs? the purpose is different so the style is different. I'm not saying that this is absolutely an OpAphid video, but I don't think you can say this is absolutely not one -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 18:17, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::"This is absolutely not an OpAphid video." :P
:::::Thing is, when broadcasting in public, the group identifies themselves as "OpAphid", which, apparently, is part of the Order. Now, since this is a private message, we can assume it goes to no one else but their own people, right? So why would they identify as a subgroup of the Order in all public, but as soon as they're sending internal, where it is a ''given'' that the sender is part of the Order, and knowing the subgroup would be important, they switch to the meaningless "The Order"?
:::::If this message was really from OpAphid, then there'd be no reason whats-o-ever not say so. Especially in private conversation, where there is nothing to hide.
:::::There is no logical reason why all public videos of OpAphid would have "OpAphid" written all over them, but as soon as they're among their own, they pretend to not exist (while, at the same time, reporting success). It is way, way, way more probable that this is simply a video from another subgroup of the Order, the Resistance, or the Order as a whole.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:48, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::Or the Creators f*cked up. Majorly. :D

== Will there be anymore? ==

Is this the ending to the LG15 series? Or will they escape from the Order's evil clutches?

Of course there will be more...

Talk:Subjects Apprehended

2007-03-28T01:45:16Z

71.72.253.254: /* Audio */

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{| align=center style="width:375px" border=2 border-color=#2574C4
|-
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-DanielBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-JonasBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-BreeBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
|-
|}
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:39, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
</center>

== Audio ==

Has anyone tried taking a recording of the sounds heard and speeding them up to try and get something? Or reversing it? -MHBus
The chirping is a slowed sparrows song. I also have isolated the "Jonas"s. ~

== Transcript ==

There is no discription of the video. I.E. If I wanted to understand the video without actually watching it, I would have no idea what happened except that Bree gasped and said "Jonas?". Also, was Daniel really captured? After all, he's considered chop liver to the order. In [[Miss Me?]] they mock him and say that Bree has "A stronger mind". Plus, you don't see him being captured, like you do Jonas and Bree.--[[User:juniemoon|juniemoon]]

:Feel free to add a description in the transcript. Probably just no one has gotten around to it yet or doesn't know how to describe it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:34, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::Well, I listened to it a couple times and I never heard "Jonas" like people here at the LGpedia claim. I'm guess that, like you say Jonpro, that people don't know quite how to describe it. -MHBus

:::Okay, I attempted a transcript, but that sort of thing isn't really my thing. If someone could improve it, that'd be great.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:33, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::Done. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 20:23, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

== Template discussion / Who is the blogger? ==

Ahh, time to bring up the discussion again. First of all, I don't think {{tl|Aphid}} includes the capability for a cast, probably because there never was one before (exception:[[Miss Me?]]). I'm wondering if we should expand the template to include it. Also, what about credits and categories? Should we start treating OpAphid videos like regular LG15 videos (maybe by using {{tl|Blog4}} with OpAphid as the blogger or something). I'm not sure what's best; just wanted to open up the discussion.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:06, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I think the problem is a different one - is this an OpAphid video at all? The description clearly says "The Order", and it has ''no'' similarity to a previous OpAphid video. While this could, of course, be due to Glenn being replaced, it might as well mean that this is a video from the Order, as ''opposed'' to videos by OpAphid. (Meaning we'd have to add "Order" to Init and create an "order" blog template.)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:11, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I don't think this is an OpAphid video. It isn't labeled OpAphid. Listing it as such without any proof is wrong. I think it should be treated like a regular LG15 video, only with "The Order" listed as the blogger, or even "unknown" as blogger. I agree there should be a "Order" blog template. [[User:Sappho|Sappho]] 20:45, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:: I think we need to establish what the relationship is between OpAphid and the Order. Daniel was Clearly being held by the Order when the Miss me video was made, But they style of the video was clearly OpAhid style. this video had a different style but not so different as to exclude the possiblilty that it was OpAphid. But I think that Both this video and Miss Me should have Blog4 templates, and the OpAphid template should be reserved for videos that are part of the ARG. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 22:26, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:::There is no way this is an OpAphid video. Every single OpAphid video that has been posted has been spooky and has had a lot of cut and paste action. This one has none of the hallmarks of her videos. It is a straight up Order video. I think the OP should be changed to ORD. Just my 2 cents. --Guest
:::: every other OpAphid video was made by Glenn Rubenstein. Maybe this wasn't, thats why the style is different. or maybe its because this is a private video just for order memebers, and the OpAphid video style was directed at a different audience. [[User:Misty|Misty]]
:::You're missing something there, Misty: Miss Me has the eye logo intro, the overbright style, the distorted audio, reverse audio, and, most importantly, the outro ''crediting'' it to OpAphid. It is ''very clearly'' an OpAphid video.
:::Subjects Apprehended has ''nothing'' of that, and isn't even credited to OpAphid in the description. I'd say all signs are pointing at Miss Me being from OpAphid, and Subjects Apprehended being from "The Order", whichever faction of them calls themselves that. (As people pointed out in the forums, it might as well be the ''reformed'' people of the Order, e.g. Jonas's parents.)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:13, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::: no I wasn't missing that, I was saying there are other explanations than this not being an OpAphid video. If OpAphid was making a private report, do you think it would look like the public vlogs? the purpose is different so the style is different. I'm not saying that this is absolutely an OpAphid video, but I don't think you can say this is absolutely not one -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 18:17, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::"This is absolutely not an OpAphid video." :P
:::::Thing is, when broadcasting in public, the group identifies themselves as "OpAphid", which, apparently, is part of the Order. Now, since this is a private message, we can assume it goes to no one else but their own people, right? So why would they identify as a subgroup of the Order in all public, but as soon as they're sending internal, where it is a ''given'' that the sender is part of the Order, and knowing the subgroup would be important, they switch to the meaningless "The Order"?
:::::If this message was really from OpAphid, then there'd be no reason whats-o-ever not say so. Especially in private conversation, where there is nothing to hide.
:::::There is no logical reason why all public videos of OpAphid would have "OpAphid" written all over them, but as soon as they're among their own, they pretend to not exist (while, at the same time, reporting success). It is way, way, way more probable that this is simply a video from another subgroup of the Order, the Resistance, or the Order as a whole.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:48, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::Or the Creators f*cked up. Majorly. :D

== Will there be anymore? ==

Is this the ending to the LG15 series? Or will they escape from the Order's evil clutches?

Of course there will be more...

Talk:Subjects Apprehended

2007-03-28T01:44:59Z

71.72.253.254: /* Audio */

<center>
{| align=center style="width:375px" border=2 border-color=#2574C4
|-
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-DanielBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-JonasBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0161-BreeBeingWatched.jpg|125px]]
|-
|}
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:39, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
</center>

== Audio ==

Has anyone tried taking a recording of the sounds heard and speeding them up to try and get something? Or reversing it? -MHBus
The chirping is a slowed sparrows song. I also have isolated the "Jonas"s. ~

== Transcript ==

There is no discription of the video. I.E. If I wanted to understand the video without actually watching it, I would have no idea what happened except that Bree gasped and said "Jonas?". Also, was Daniel really captured? After all, he's considered chop liver to the order. In [[Miss Me?]] they mock him and say that Bree has "A stronger mind". Plus, you don't see him being captured, like you do Jonas and Bree.--[[User:juniemoon|juniemoon]]

:Feel free to add a description in the transcript. Probably just no one has gotten around to it yet or doesn't know how to describe it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:34, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::Well, I listened to it a couple times and I never heard "Jonas" like people here at the LGpedia claim. I'm guess that, like you say Jonpro, that people don't know quite how to describe it. -MHBus

:::Okay, I attempted a transcript, but that sort of thing isn't really my thing. If someone could improve it, that'd be great.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:33, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::Done. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 20:23, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

== Template discussion / Who is the blogger? ==

Ahh, time to bring up the discussion again. First of all, I don't think {{tl|Aphid}} includes the capability for a cast, probably because there never was one before (exception:[[Miss Me?]]). I'm wondering if we should expand the template to include it. Also, what about credits and categories? Should we start treating OpAphid videos like regular LG15 videos (maybe by using {{tl|Blog4}} with OpAphid as the blogger or something). I'm not sure what's best; just wanted to open up the discussion.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:06, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I think the problem is a different one - is this an OpAphid video at all? The description clearly says "The Order", and it has ''no'' similarity to a previous OpAphid video. While this could, of course, be due to Glenn being replaced, it might as well mean that this is a video from the Order, as ''opposed'' to videos by OpAphid. (Meaning we'd have to add "Order" to Init and create an "order" blog template.)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:11, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I don't think this is an OpAphid video. It isn't labeled OpAphid. Listing it as such without any proof is wrong. I think it should be treated like a regular LG15 video, only with "The Order" listed as the blogger, or even "unknown" as blogger. I agree there should be a "Order" blog template. [[User:Sappho|Sappho]] 20:45, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:: I think we need to establish what the relationship is between OpAphid and the Order. Daniel was Clearly being held by the Order when the Miss me video was made, But they style of the video was clearly OpAhid style. this video had a different style but not so different as to exclude the possiblilty that it was OpAphid. But I think that Both this video and Miss Me should have Blog4 templates, and the OpAphid template should be reserved for videos that are part of the ARG. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 22:26, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:::There is no way this is an OpAphid video. Every single OpAphid video that has been posted has been spooky and has had a lot of cut and paste action. This one has none of the hallmarks of her videos. It is a straight up Order video. I think the OP should be changed to ORD. Just my 2 cents. --Guest
:::: every other OpAphid video was made by Glenn Rubenstein. Maybe this wasn't, thats why the style is different. or maybe its because this is a private video just for order memebers, and the OpAphid video style was directed at a different audience. [[User:Misty|Misty]]
:::You're missing something there, Misty: Miss Me has the eye logo intro, the overbright style, the distorted audio, reverse audio, and, most importantly, the outro ''crediting'' it to OpAphid. It is ''very clearly'' an OpAphid video.
:::Subjects Apprehended has ''nothing'' of that, and isn't even credited to OpAphid in the description. I'd say all signs are pointing at Miss Me being from OpAphid, and Subjects Apprehended being from "The Order", whichever faction of them calls themselves that. (As people pointed out in the forums, it might as well be the ''reformed'' people of the Order, e.g. Jonas's parents.)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:13, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::: no I wasn't missing that, I was saying there are other explanations than this not being an OpAphid video. If OpAphid was making a private report, do you think it would look like the public vlogs? the purpose is different so the style is different. I'm not saying that this is absolutely an OpAphid video, but I don't think you can say this is absolutely not one -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 18:17, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::::"This is absolutely not an OpAphid video." :P
:::::Thing is, when broadcasting in public, the group identifies themselves as "OpAphid", which, apparently, is part of the Order. Now, since this is a private message, we can assume it goes to no one else but their own people, right? So why would they identify as a subgroup of the Order in all public, but as soon as they're sending internal, where it is a ''given'' that the sender is part of the Order, and knowing the subgroup would be important, they switch to the meaningless "The Order"?
:::::If this message was really from OpAphid, then there'd be no reason whats-o-ever not say so. Especially in private conversation, where there is nothing to hide.
:::::There is no logical reason why all public videos of OpAphid would have "OpAphid" written all over them, but as soon as they're among their own, they pretend to not exist (while, at the same time, reporting success). It is way, way, way more probable that this is simply a video from another subgroup of the Order, the Resistance, or the Order as a whole.
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:48, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::::::Or the Creators f*cked up. Majorly. :D

== Will there be anymore? ==

Is this the ending to the LG15 series? Or will they escape from the Order's evil clutches?

Of course there will be more...