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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: /* Who is 72.134.147.10? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Who is 72.134.147.10? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User 72.134.147.10 is another random LG15 fan who doesn't want to take the time to sign up, or have her password emailed to her if, in fact, she's already signed up. She's watched the forum and read through several different theories, rarely adding her own input. She does comment on the YouTube videos every so often, and can be known there by her common username, Kengirl01. She also comments on the [http://lg15.com Lonelygirl15] website occasionally, and can be known there as [http://lg15.com/?page_id=113&amp;amp;member=8970 RandomGuestBandit]. She has no videos uploaded yet, due to the fact that she owns virtually no video editing/making software.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Who is 72.134.147.10? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User 72.134.147.10 is another random LG15 fan who doesn't want to take the time to sign up, or have her password emailed to her if, in fact, she's already signed up. She's watched the forum and read through several different theories, never adding her own input. She does comment on the YouTube videos every so often, and can be known there by her common username, Kengirl01. She has no videos uploaded yet, due to the fact that she owns virtually no video editing/making software.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Who is 72.134.147.10? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User 72.134.147.10 is another random LG15 fan who doesn't want to take the time to sign up, or have her password emailed to her if, in fact, she's already signed up. She's watched the forum and read through several different theories, never adding her own input. She does comment on the YouTube videos every so often, and can be known there by her common username, Kengirl01. She has no videos uploaded yet, due to the fact that she owns virtually no video editing/making software.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Plot_holes&amp;diff=31770</id>
		<title>Talk:Plot holes</title>
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				<updated>2007-03-27T23:49:52Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: /* Jonas knows too much? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Oh I like ''this''.  Hm, perhaps somewhere we can add how things that seem really important one episode, suddlenly don't matter the next?  (E.g. the ceremony and what it ''was'', the watcher, the company her dad worked for, the lemniscate thingie, etc.)  They're not technically holes, but they're equally annoying.  Well, I'll be making entries here as I remember...  Great idea! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:58, 17 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixing a hole... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think perhaps that points like &amp;quot;Accent&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Will there be a ceremony,&amp;quot; which have ''irrefutable'' &amp;quot;solutions,&amp;quot; should be removed from the list, or at least put into a separate category.  Thoughts?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 01:00, 8 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The point of the list (at least in my mind) is not just to point out plot holes that still exist, but plot holes that also used to exist and have been explained or patched. Partially, this is to keep people who aren't aware of the solution from re-posting it, and partially it is to point out that the Creators are actually trying to make this stuff work. An unsolved plot hole is a ding against them, but a solved plot hole is in turn a point in their favor. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lack of speaking on the part of Lucy et al. ==&lt;br /&gt;
While I don't think it constitutes a plot hole that Lucy and the Watchers don't speak, it is noteworthy, and I think it ought to be noted somewhere. It's not just in [[The Human Ransom]], but all manner of places. Note that in the opening sequence of [[On The Run]], when Bree's parents are being escorted from their house, there does not appear to be any words exchanged. I think this is intentional, and not just a matter of making certain characters appear more &amp;quot;mysterious&amp;quot; but more...something else. Perhaps powerful? Think of it: When the Order shows up at your house a few days after you've defied them by letting your daughter off the hook in respect to a sacred ceremony, they don't have to say a word; they just give you a look, and you know it's time to get in the back of the car and go room with Cassie. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps just making note of it in Lucy's article would be just fine.  It probably applies to the deacons/watcher/thugs and the rest of the gang, but it's most noticeable in Lucy.  Or maybe start a &amp;quot;fan speculation&amp;quot; article on whether the Order requires members to take vows of silence.  =P&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:07, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jonas knows too much? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't know if it's even a plot hole at all, but in the video &amp;quot;[[Tough Cookie]]&amp;quot;, Jonas explains that Gemma had been working for the Order the entire time, and was lieing to Bree. The clip he showed is obviously from Tachyon/Brother's Gemma series ([[Gemma? (Part II)|Part 2]]), but how does Jonas really know all that stuff? From the video, all we see is Gemma following Lucy. All that could mean is that Lucy's found Gemma and is taking her in. Now, maybe Jonas worked through the puzzle Tachyon and Brother left, but I don't know how much they'd told us at that point.&lt;br /&gt;
Either Jonas worked through Tachyon's puzzle and found out about Gemma, the Creaters goofed up, or there's somthing else at work.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:72.134.147.10|72.134.147.10]] 18:49, 27 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I tend to think that Jonas jumped to the same conclusions that other fans did. The videos showed that Gemma was in California the whole time, and that she was in contact with Lucy. Between those two facts, it's not that big of an intuiotive jump to assume that Gemma's still working with the Order. Feel free to put it in, but it never bothered me, personally. &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 18:12, 15 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;User 72.134.147.10 is another random LG15 fan who doesn't want to take the time to sign up, or have her password emailed to her if, in fact, she's already signed up. She's watched the forum and read through several different theories, never adding her own input. She does comment on the YouTube videos every so often, and can be known there by her common username, Kengirl01. She has no videos uploaded yet, due to the fact that she owns virtually no video editing/making software.&lt;br /&gt;
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				<updated>2007-03-27T22:57:25Z</updated>
		
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&lt;div&gt;Hello - this is 72.134.147.10. Anyone have any questions or comments for me?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;User 72.134.147.10 is another random LG15 fan who doesn't want to take the time to sign up, or have her password emailed to her if, in fact, she's already signed up. She's watched the forum and read through several different theories, never adding her own imput. She does comment on the YouTube videos every so often, and can be known there by her common username, Kengirl01. She has no vidos uploaded yet, due to the fact that she owns virtually no video editting/making software.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be other users nearby with the anonymous IP address of 72.134.147.10, and if they do not wish to have this information resulted onto them, they may create a section here about themselves.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;User 72.134.147.10 is another random LG15 fan who doesn't want to take the time to sign up, or have her password emailed to her if, in fact, she's already signed up. She's watched the forum and read through several different theories, never adding her own imput. She does comment on the YouTube videos every so often, and can be known there by her common username, Kengirl01. She has no vidos uploaded yet, due to the fact that she owns virtually no video editting/making software.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Plot_holes&amp;diff=29364</id>
		<title>Talk:Plot holes</title>
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				<updated>2007-03-15T22:46:22Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: /* Jonas knows too much? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Oh I like ''this''.  Hm, perhaps somewhere we can add how things that seem really important one episode, suddlenly don't matter the next?  (E.g. the ceremony and what it ''was'', the watcher, the company her dad worked for, the lemniscate thingie, etc.)  They're not technically holes, but they're equally annoying.  Well, I'll be making entries here as I remember...  Great idea! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:58, 17 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixing a hole... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think perhaps that points like &amp;quot;Accent&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Will there be a ceremony,&amp;quot; which have ''irrefutable'' &amp;quot;solutions,&amp;quot; should be removed from the list, or at least put into a separate category.  Thoughts?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 01:00, 8 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The point of the list (at least in my mind) is not just to point out plot holes that still exist, but plot holes that also used to exist and have been explained or patched. Partially, this is to keep people who aren't aware of the solution from re-posting it, and partially it is to point out that the Creators are actually trying to make this stuff work. An unsolved plot hole is a ding against them, but a solved plot hole is in turn a point in their favor. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lack of speaking on the part of Lucy et al. ==&lt;br /&gt;
While I don't think it constitutes a plot hole that Lucy and the Watchers don't speak, it is noteworthy, and I think it ought to be noted somewhere. It's not just in [[The Human Ransom]], but all manner of places. Note that in the opening sequence of [[On The Run]], when Bree's parents are being escorted from their house, there does not appear to be any words exchanged. I think this is intentional, and not just a matter of making certain characters appear more &amp;quot;mysterious&amp;quot; but more...something else. Perhaps powerful? Think of it: When the Order shows up at your house a few days after you've defied them by letting your daughter off the hook in respect to a sacred ceremony, they don't have to say a word; they just give you a look, and you know it's time to get in the back of the car and go room with Cassie. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps just making note of it in Lucy's article would be just fine.  It probably applies to the deacons/watcher/thugs and the rest of the gang, but it's most noticeable in Lucy.  Or maybe start a &amp;quot;fan speculation&amp;quot; article on whether the Order requires members to take vows of silence.  =P&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:07, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Jonas knows too much? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't know if it's even a plot hole at all, but in the video &amp;quot;[[Tough Cookie]]&amp;quot;, Jonas explains that Gemma had been working for the Order the entire time, and was lieing to Bree. The clip he showed is obviously from Tachyon/Brother's Gemma series ([[Gemma? (Part II)|Part 2]]), but how does Jonas really know all that stuff? From the video, all we see is Gemma following Lucy. All that could mean is that Lucy's found Gemma and is taking her in. Now, maybe Jonas worked through the puzzle Tachyon and Brother left, but I don't know how much they'd told us at that point.&lt;br /&gt;
Either Jonas worked through Tachyon's puzzle and found out about Gemma, the Creaters goofed up, or there's somthing else at work.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Plot holes</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: /* Jonas knows too much? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Oh I like ''this''.  Hm, perhaps somewhere we can add how things that seem really important one episode, suddlenly don't matter the next?  (E.g. the ceremony and what it ''was'', the watcher, the company her dad worked for, the lemniscate thingie, etc.)  They're not technically holes, but they're equally annoying.  Well, I'll be making entries here as I remember...  Great idea! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:58, 17 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixing a hole... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think perhaps that points like &amp;quot;Accent&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Will there be a ceremony,&amp;quot; which have ''irrefutable'' &amp;quot;solutions,&amp;quot; should be removed from the list, or at least put into a separate category.  Thoughts?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 01:00, 8 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The point of the list (at least in my mind) is not just to point out plot holes that still exist, but plot holes that also used to exist and have been explained or patched. Partially, this is to keep people who aren't aware of the solution from re-posting it, and partially it is to point out that the Creators are actually trying to make this stuff work. An unsolved plot hole is a ding against them, but a solved plot hole is in turn a point in their favor. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lack of speaking on the part of Lucy et al. ==&lt;br /&gt;
While I don't think it constitutes a plot hole that Lucy and the Watchers don't speak, it is noteworthy, and I think it ought to be noted somewhere. It's not just in [[The Human Ransom]], but all manner of places. Note that in the opening sequence of [[On The Run]], when Bree's parents are being escorted from their house, there does not appear to be any words exchanged. I think this is intentional, and not just a matter of making certain characters appear more &amp;quot;mysterious&amp;quot; but more...something else. Perhaps powerful? Think of it: When the Order shows up at your house a few days after you've defied them by letting your daughter off the hook in respect to a sacred ceremony, they don't have to say a word; they just give you a look, and you know it's time to get in the back of the car and go room with Cassie. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps just making note of it in Lucy's article would be just fine.  It probably applies to the deacons/watcher/thugs and the rest of the gang, but it's most noticeable in Lucy.  Or maybe start a &amp;quot;fan speculation&amp;quot; article on whether the Order requires members to take vows of silence.  =P&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:07, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Jonas knows too much? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't know if it's even a plot hole at all, but in the video &amp;quot;[[Tough Cookie]]&amp;quot;, Jonas explains that Gemma had been working for the Order the entire time, and was lieing to Bree. The clip he showed is obviously from Tachyon/Brother's Gemma series ([[Gemma? (part II)|Part 2]]), but how does Jonas really know all that stuff? From the video, all we see is Gemma following Lucy. All that could mean is that Lucy's found Gemma and is taking her in. Now, maybe Jonas worked through the puzzle Tachyon and Brother left, but I don't know how much they'd told us at that point.&lt;br /&gt;
Either Jonas worked through Tachyon's puzzle and found out about Gemma, the Creaters goofed up, or there's somthing else at work.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Plot holes</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: /* Jonas knows too much? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Oh I like ''this''.  Hm, perhaps somewhere we can add how things that seem really important one episode, suddlenly don't matter the next?  (E.g. the ceremony and what it ''was'', the watcher, the company her dad worked for, the lemniscate thingie, etc.)  They're not technically holes, but they're equally annoying.  Well, I'll be making entries here as I remember...  Great idea! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:58, 17 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixing a hole... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think perhaps that points like &amp;quot;Accent&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Will there be a ceremony,&amp;quot; which have ''irrefutable'' &amp;quot;solutions,&amp;quot; should be removed from the list, or at least put into a separate category.  Thoughts?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 01:00, 8 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The point of the list (at least in my mind) is not just to point out plot holes that still exist, but plot holes that also used to exist and have been explained or patched. Partially, this is to keep people who aren't aware of the solution from re-posting it, and partially it is to point out that the Creators are actually trying to make this stuff work. An unsolved plot hole is a ding against them, but a solved plot hole is in turn a point in their favor. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lack of speaking on the part of Lucy et al. ==&lt;br /&gt;
While I don't think it constitutes a plot hole that Lucy and the Watchers don't speak, it is noteworthy, and I think it ought to be noted somewhere. It's not just in [[The Human Ransom]], but all manner of places. Note that in the opening sequence of [[On The Run]], when Bree's parents are being escorted from their house, there does not appear to be any words exchanged. I think this is intentional, and not just a matter of making certain characters appear more &amp;quot;mysterious&amp;quot; but more...something else. Perhaps powerful? Think of it: When the Order shows up at your house a few days after you've defied them by letting your daughter off the hook in respect to a sacred ceremony, they don't have to say a word; they just give you a look, and you know it's time to get in the back of the car and go room with Cassie. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps just making note of it in Lucy's article would be just fine.  It probably applies to the deacons/watcher/thugs and the rest of the gang, but it's most noticeable in Lucy.  Or maybe start a &amp;quot;fan speculation&amp;quot; article on whether the Order requires members to take vows of silence.  =P&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:07, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jonas knows too much? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't know if it's even a plot hole at all, but in the video &amp;quot;[[Tough Cookie]]&amp;quot;, Jonas explains that Gemma had been working for the Order the entire time, and was lieing to Bree. The clip he showed is obviously from Tachyon/Brother's Gemma series ([[Gemma? (part 2)|Part 2]]), but how does Jonas really know all that stuff? From the video, all we see is Gemma following Lucy. All that could mean is that Lucy's found Gemma and is taking her in. Now, maybe Jonas worked through the puzzle Tachyon and Brother left, but I don't know how much they'd told us at that point.&lt;br /&gt;
Either Jonas worked through Tachyon's puzzle and found out about Gemma, the Creaters goofed up, or there's somthing else at work.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Plot holes</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: /* Jonas knows too much? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Oh I like ''this''.  Hm, perhaps somewhere we can add how things that seem really important one episode, suddlenly don't matter the next?  (E.g. the ceremony and what it ''was'', the watcher, the company her dad worked for, the lemniscate thingie, etc.)  They're not technically holes, but they're equally annoying.  Well, I'll be making entries here as I remember...  Great idea! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:58, 17 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixing a hole... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think perhaps that points like &amp;quot;Accent&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Will there be a ceremony,&amp;quot; which have ''irrefutable'' &amp;quot;solutions,&amp;quot; should be removed from the list, or at least put into a separate category.  Thoughts?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 01:00, 8 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The point of the list (at least in my mind) is not just to point out plot holes that still exist, but plot holes that also used to exist and have been explained or patched. Partially, this is to keep people who aren't aware of the solution from re-posting it, and partially it is to point out that the Creators are actually trying to make this stuff work. An unsolved plot hole is a ding against them, but a solved plot hole is in turn a point in their favor. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lack of speaking on the part of Lucy et al. ==&lt;br /&gt;
While I don't think it constitutes a plot hole that Lucy and the Watchers don't speak, it is noteworthy, and I think it ought to be noted somewhere. It's not just in [[The Human Ransom]], but all manner of places. Note that in the opening sequence of [[On The Run]], when Bree's parents are being escorted from their house, there does not appear to be any words exchanged. I think this is intentional, and not just a matter of making certain characters appear more &amp;quot;mysterious&amp;quot; but more...something else. Perhaps powerful? Think of it: When the Order shows up at your house a few days after you've defied them by letting your daughter off the hook in respect to a sacred ceremony, they don't have to say a word; they just give you a look, and you know it's time to get in the back of the car and go room with Cassie. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps just making note of it in Lucy's article would be just fine.  It probably applies to the deacons/watcher/thugs and the rest of the gang, but it's most noticeable in Lucy.  Or maybe start a &amp;quot;fan speculation&amp;quot; article on whether the Order requires members to take vows of silence.  =P&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:07, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Jonas knows too much? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't know if it's even a plot hole at all, but in the video &amp;quot;[[Tough Cookie]]&amp;quot;, Jonas explains that Gemma had been working for the Order the entire time, and was lieing to Bree. The clip he showed is obviously from Tachyon/Brother's Gemma series ([[Part 2|Gemma? (part 2)]]), but how does Jonas really know all that stuff? From the video, all we see is Gemma following Lucy. All that could mean is that Lucy's found Gemma and is taking her in. Now, maybe Jonas worked through the puzzle Tachyon and Brother left, but I don't know how much they'd told us at that point.&lt;br /&gt;
Either Jonas worked through Tachyon's puzzle and found out about Gemma, the Creaters goofed up, or there's somthing else at work.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Plot_holes&amp;diff=29360</id>
		<title>Talk:Plot holes</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: /* Jonas knows too much? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Oh I like ''this''.  Hm, perhaps somewhere we can add how things that seem really important one episode, suddlenly don't matter the next?  (E.g. the ceremony and what it ''was'', the watcher, the company her dad worked for, the lemniscate thingie, etc.)  They're not technically holes, but they're equally annoying.  Well, I'll be making entries here as I remember...  Great idea! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:58, 17 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixing a hole... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think perhaps that points like &amp;quot;Accent&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Will there be a ceremony,&amp;quot; which have ''irrefutable'' &amp;quot;solutions,&amp;quot; should be removed from the list, or at least put into a separate category.  Thoughts?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 01:00, 8 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The point of the list (at least in my mind) is not just to point out plot holes that still exist, but plot holes that also used to exist and have been explained or patched. Partially, this is to keep people who aren't aware of the solution from re-posting it, and partially it is to point out that the Creators are actually trying to make this stuff work. An unsolved plot hole is a ding against them, but a solved plot hole is in turn a point in their favor. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lack of speaking on the part of Lucy et al. ==&lt;br /&gt;
While I don't think it constitutes a plot hole that Lucy and the Watchers don't speak, it is noteworthy, and I think it ought to be noted somewhere. It's not just in [[The Human Ransom]], but all manner of places. Note that in the opening sequence of [[On The Run]], when Bree's parents are being escorted from their house, there does not appear to be any words exchanged. I think this is intentional, and not just a matter of making certain characters appear more &amp;quot;mysterious&amp;quot; but more...something else. Perhaps powerful? Think of it: When the Order shows up at your house a few days after you've defied them by letting your daughter off the hook in respect to a sacred ceremony, they don't have to say a word; they just give you a look, and you know it's time to get in the back of the car and go room with Cassie. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps just making note of it in Lucy's article would be just fine.  It probably applies to the deacons/watcher/thugs and the rest of the gang, but it's most noticeable in Lucy.  Or maybe start a &amp;quot;fan speculation&amp;quot; article on whether the Order requires members to take vows of silence.  =P&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:07, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Jonas knows too much? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't know if it's even a plot hole at all, but in the video &amp;quot;[[Tough Cookie]]&amp;quot;, Jonas explains that Gemma had been working for the Order the entire time, and was lieing to Bree. The clip he showed is obviously from Tachyon/Brother's Gemma series (Part 2), but how does Jonas really know all that stuff? From the video, all we see is Gemma following Lucy. All that could mean is that Lucy's found Gemma and is taking her in. Now, maybe Jonas worked through the puzzle Tachyon and Brother left, but I don't know how much they'd told us at that point.&lt;br /&gt;
Either Jonas worked through Tachyon's puzzle and found out about Gemma, the Creaters goofed up, or there's somthing else at work.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Plot holes</title>
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				<updated>2007-03-14T23:47:00Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;72.134.147.10: Jonas knows too much?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Oh I like ''this''.  Hm, perhaps somewhere we can add how things that seem really important one episode, suddlenly don't matter the next?  (E.g. the ceremony and what it ''was'', the watcher, the company her dad worked for, the lemniscate thingie, etc.)  They're not technically holes, but they're equally annoying.  Well, I'll be making entries here as I remember...  Great idea! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:58, 17 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Fixing a hole... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think perhaps that points like &amp;quot;Accent&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Will there be a ceremony,&amp;quot; which have ''irrefutable'' &amp;quot;solutions,&amp;quot; should be removed from the list, or at least put into a separate category.  Thoughts?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 01:00, 8 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The point of the list (at least in my mind) is not just to point out plot holes that still exist, but plot holes that also used to exist and have been explained or patched. Partially, this is to keep people who aren't aware of the solution from re-posting it, and partially it is to point out that the Creators are actually trying to make this stuff work. An unsolved plot hole is a ding against them, but a solved plot hole is in turn a point in their favor. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lack of speaking on the part of Lucy et al. ==&lt;br /&gt;
While I don't think it constitutes a plot hole that Lucy and the Watchers don't speak, it is noteworthy, and I think it ought to be noted somewhere. It's not just in [[The Human Ransom]], but all manner of places. Note that in the opening sequence of [[On The Run]], when Bree's parents are being escorted from their house, there does not appear to be any words exchanged. I think this is intentional, and not just a matter of making certain characters appear more &amp;quot;mysterious&amp;quot; but more...something else. Perhaps powerful? Think of it: When the Order shows up at your house a few days after you've defied them by letting your daughter off the hook in respect to a sacred ceremony, they don't have to say a word; they just give you a look, and you know it's time to get in the back of the car and go room with Cassie. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps just making note of it in Lucy's article would be just fine.  It probably applies to the deacons/watcher/thugs and the rest of the gang, but it's most noticeable in Lucy.  Or maybe start a &amp;quot;fan speculation&amp;quot; article on whether the Order requires members to take vows of silence.  =P&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 18:07, 13 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Jonas knows too much? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't know if it's even a plot hole at all, but in the video &amp;quot;Tough Cookie&amp;quot;, Jonas explains that Gemma had been working for the Order the entire time, and was lieing to Bree. The clip he showed is obviously from Tachyon/Brother's Gemma series (Part 2), but how does Jonas really know all that stuff? From the video, all we see is Gemma following Lucy. All that could mean is that Lucy's found Gemma and is taking her in. Now, maybe Jonas worked through the puzzle Tachyon and Brother left, but I don't know how much they'd told us at that point.&lt;br /&gt;
Either Jonas worked through Tachyon's puzzle and found out about Gemma, the Creaters goofed up, or there's somthing else at work.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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