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Talk:Go For It :)

2007-09-13T04:12:05Z

Chartreuse:

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Aww! When she said "I'm a freak" it sounded almost EXACTLY like Bree in the first vlog saying "I'm a dork." Wow. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:12, 12 September 2007 (CDT)

Dr. Weirdo

2007-09-12T20:19:48Z

Chartreuse: /* Notes */

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'''{{PAGENAME}}''' is the fifty-sixth webisode in the [[KateModern]] [[List of KateModern videos|video series]].

== Transcript ==
(''Kate, Charlie and Dudley are walking through the woods.'')

'''Charlie:''' Ow.

'''Dudley:''' Speed it up.

'''Kate:''' How much longer?

'''Charlie:''' Ow.

'''Kate:''' You alright, babe?

'''Charlie:''' Yep

'''Dudley:''' Can you hear something? Did you hear someone? Did you hear someone? Did you hear someone?

'''Charlie:''' Where the hell are we? I'd like to know where the hell I am right now!

'''Dudley:''' Can you please just keep your voice down?

'''Charlie:''' Are we lost?

'''Dudley:''' No, come on.

'''Charlie:''' At least there's two of us, if he tries anything we should be able to... all I need now is a stick man made of twigs... (''Charlie trips and falls.'')

'''Kate:''' Charlie?

'''Dr Griffin:''' Let me help you. (''Approaching Charlie with his hands outstretched.'')

(''Charlie screams. Dudley helps her up.'')

'''Dudley:''' Come on, get up. Alright, let's get this over with, huh?

'''Charlie:''' Dr. Weirdo, I presume?

'''Dr. Griffin:''' Kate.

(''Cut to Kate talking with Dr. Griffin'')

'''Kate:''' That is no excuse for what you did to me!

'''Dr. Griffin:''' You must trust me. [[The Order]] are a very real and serious threat to yourself and to every man, woman and child on this planet. The fact that you have the trait positive blood and weren't abducted as a baby was an anomaly that I had to harness.

'''Kate:''' Anomaly? I am not a quantum phenomenon, I am a normal human being! You can't just go around drugging people on your own accord!

'''Dr. Griffin:''' I wanted to bring you here to show you and them (''indicates camera'') that I'm not the madman that I seem to be. So I thought that I would offer you an explanation as the right thing to do.

'''Kate:''' An explanation? You think this is an explanation? That is not good enough. I want an apology.

'''Dr. Griffin:''' Very well. I am so very sorry for any unpleasantness that I may have caused you. (''camera beeps'') And you must believe me that I could not - would not commit such crimes and I wouldn't give over my entire life in the pursuit of something even vaguely superfluous. The fight against the Order must go on. (''camera beeps again'')

'''Charlie:''' Kate, we're running out of battery.

'''Dr. Griffin:''' I'll be brief. My experiments with the trait positive girls showed that they had something more than the longevity that we believe provides the power for the Order ...

'''Kate:''' What more?

'''Dr. Griffin:''' I believe that the trait positive girls possess powerful abilities that when they are ...

'''Kate:''' What do you mean?!

'''Dudley:''' There's someone there, there's someone there. We have to go, we have to leave!

'''Charlie:''' Kate, quick, Kate!

'''Kate:''' What is his trying to say to me?

'''Charlie:''' Kate! We have to go!

'''Dr. Griffin:''' I didn't want it to end like this!

'''Charlie:''' (''running'') Go straight, go straight, run!

(''Camera beeps and goes dead'')

== Notes ==
* Charlie's line, "All I need now is a stickman made of twigs," is a reference to "The Blair Witch Project."
* When Charlie says "Dr. Weirdo I presume," it is a reference to the famous line "Dr. Livingston I presume."
* This video confirms that Kate, unlike [[Bree]] and [[Emma]], was not adopted by someone within the Hymn of One.
* Whatever power Kate should have was probably displayed by [[Emma]] in [[Shadow of Death]].

Talk:Then and Now: A Look Back at Lonelygirl15 Through Time

2007-09-12T03:03:23Z

Chartreuse: Outdated again :(

Okay, I began working on this article. I figure it would make a nice feature come June 16th. Obviously it needs a ''lot'' of work stylistically and whatnot, but I'd LOVE for people to give their opinions and input content-wise. It probably needs a lot more stuff, but yeah, this was the starting point. Opinions, please!!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 12:37, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
:I made a couple of changes to help you start things off. Also, I think the pics should all be the same ratio, or at least the same for each pair. Do you prefer 4:3 or widescreen? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:34, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
::Oh, it's already looking much better. I agree, the ratio should be the same. Although I have no personal preference about which one to use. Thanks a ton for any/all help!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:38, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
:::I have replaced some pics with 4:3 ones. I'm afraid that's all I have time for tonight. Hopefully, others on [[LGPedia]] will chip in too. I'll cast my eye over it again soon to see how things develop. Oh... and this page was a good idea, by the way! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:37, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
::::Okay, I ''attempted'' to go through and get the rest of the images to the correct ratio. Although I think it's safe to say that I fail.. so uh, if anyone wants to go in and stick up prettier images I won't be offended ;P I'm so glad you like it!! I was hoping people would... it seems... right to do something special for a whole year! Hopefully other people will give imput too. What other changes would people make to this page/what would you add? I'd love to know!!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:32, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::Hey... isn't Gemma... dead? --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:29, 29 May 2007 (CDT)

How about '''Stuffed animals'''? Important for Bree and... now - forgotten? [[User:Psichopate|psichopate]] 20:34, 29 May 2007 (CDT)
:Feel free to add them! It doesn't even just have to be characters. Plot, setting, etc! Anything you can think of a then/now for. This was just a starting point!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 29 May 2007 (CDT)
::I decided to add Tachyon to the page, though I'm not the biggest fan of the pics (why couldn't she give us a decent photo of herself just once??) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 13:29, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
:I was thinking, should this page JUST be "In-Universe then & now" stuff, or could we also mention the whole discovery/outing moment of LG15. The reason I would think not is that it may be too similar to [[Down The Rabbit Hole: The Hunt For Bree]].--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:20, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:Hm, yeah I think we should stick to in-story stuff for now. The page is looking great though! I hope people continue to contribute!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:42, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

==Featuring==
Just so it's official, I wanted to put the feature nom. on this page. I'm planning on featuring it on June 16th to mark the first [[Bree]] blog, assuming there are no serious objections. I think it's looking great! I'm really pleased :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 19:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:I really like the concept of this Zoey, but I feel its still a little barren. Its concentrating on how the characters have evolved in a year, but that's about it. Perhaps . . . argh, can't really figure out what I'm trying to say. I'll be back later --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 19:16, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::If you look at my recent change, you'll see I added commentary to make it sound a little bit more "Yearbooky" -- if this isn't what you were going for. Feel free to revert, Zoey. I also added a Setting Section because I DO think that change is significant. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:36, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::No, it totally looks good! I really like it!! Hm, should we add [[Jules]] and [[Nikki Bower]] maybe? [[OpAphid]] and [[Brother]]? I dont know much about the [[ARG]] so someone would really have to do that for me.. I couldn't say squat about the changes they've gone through. We also probably need to resize the images for setting so they match. But no seriously, this is looking really good! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:40, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::I was considering comparing how at the beginning there was CIW and then 'replaced' by OpAphid, but it seemed a little to Out-of-Story. We can add more characters sure, but I was thinking, if you like the "Yearbook-like" idea, then maybe we can add 'favorite moments,' 'favorite lines,' etc?? Okay . . . I'm needing a nap now--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:43, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

::: This page is really great. I think we need to do something on the progression of Bree's religion from [[Aleister Crowley]] to [[Thelema]] to [[Enochian]] to [[The Order of Denderah]] to [[OpAphid]] to [[The Order]] to the [[Hymn of One]]. I mean, not necessarily those steps in that order, but you see what I mean, right? --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 22:49, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:BTW - the 27 weeks is counted from Life's Not Fair (as mentioned) to the 1 year anniversary mark. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:20, 3 June 2007 (CDT)

I added Bree's religion, as well as Jules. I tried to keep the "yearbook style" but uh, Pheon, you are much better at that than I am. Maybe you could spiff it up a bit? :P Does anyone else have suggestions for this page before the 16th? Thanks for all your input!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:21, 6 June 2007 (CDT)

Ack, the 16th is comin' up, so I would really like it if anyone had any new thoughts or inputs! If there are no new suggestions before the 16th though, I'll go ahead and put it up. Hopefully this is enough time for everyone to voice their opinions.. ;) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:16, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

:Yeah, sorry I haven't done anything here in a while, I just got back from Yosemite. Anyways, I like the recent additions, Zoey, and I'll try an see what I can come up with in the next few days. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:38, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

Tommorow is the 16th! In case I'm not on, can someone be sure to feature it please? Thanks :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:54, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
:Not a problem, but I would like to add a section mentioning the on-off-on again relationships. How should I go about this REALLY important part of LG15 without it sounding redundant to [[Relationships]]? Should it simply be summary-yearbooky, concentrating on the major events, OR should it be done in a different approach altogether??--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:15, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
::Well, I am sure some of what's already on this page is slightly redundant to other pages, it's just a summary page of then and now. I would do it in a yearbooky way and make it like.. Then: Jonas invites fellow orphan Bree to stay at his house... Now: Bree and Jonas spend the night together. Or however, but along those lines. Yeah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:19, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Outdated again :( ==
I love this page, but it seems to be outdated. I have a feeling it's always going to end up outdated. Why don't we bring this up to speed with the end of Season One and then go from there later? If you'd like, I'll do it, I just want a go-ahead. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:03, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Portal:lonelygirl15

2007-09-12T03:00:01Z

Chartreuse: (omg grammar issue)

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'''Recent videos'''
*[[Sister to Sister]]
*[[Stupid B!tch!]]
*[[Gross Guy]]
*[[Dirty Secrets]]
*[[Grand Canyon]]

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Theories About Characters

2007-09-12T02:58:59Z

Chartreuse: /* Dudley */

This page is used to post your theories about [[characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

==lonelygirl15==

===Bree===
*Her full name is [[Bree|Bree Avery]] because her father's name is [[Bree's parents|Drew Avery]]. (proven)
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*Bree isn't actually dead.
*Bree is not dead, but will not be returning.
*The Order didn't kill Bree, they made it look like she died so Daniel and Jonas would stop chasing her.
*After doing the ceremony, Bree loses her past memories and [[Greek|becomes Jen K, a college student]].
*Bree may be [[Kate]]'s biological sister.

===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for the order.
*Daniel is in love with Bree. (proven)
*Daniel will fall in love with Sarah.

===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*The Order preformed Bree's ceremony incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die.
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill Jonas as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.

===Jonas===
*[[Jonas]] will become depressed after losing Bree and kill himself. (disproven)
*Jonas will tell Emma about his adventures with Bree and Daniel and they will fight the Order.
*Jonas will become brainwashed by the Order.

===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by the Order.
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She is a [[Watcher]]. (disproven)
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down the Order.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract Spencer Gilman.

===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by the Order.
*Sarah is jealous of Bree. (proven)
*Sarah is not related to Taylor by blood.
*Sarah, as a plant by the Order, is present to distract Daniel from the task of locating Bree.
*Sarah loves Daniel. (proven)
*She is trait positive and the creepy guy is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant.
*Sarah is using the serum on herself.
*Sarah has destroyed the serum. (disproven)
*Sarah says she is dating multiple guys to make Daniel jealous.

===Bree's Mom===
*[[Bree's parents|Bree's mom]] is working against Bree's best interests.
*She is, or is working for, [[OpAphid]].
*Bree's mother married Drew Avery as a command from [[The Order]].
*Bree's mother is part of [[The Resistance]].

===Drew Avery===
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of the Order.
*He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
*He died because he tried to make Bree trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]). (proven)

===Alex===
*[[Alex|She]] is torn between her loyalty to her religion and her loyalty to her [[Jonas|nephew]].
*Alex has done the Ceremony. (disproven)
*She is still with the Order and gave Daniel a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample,she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*She is Deep Throat/the one who put the messages in Bree's videos. (proven)

===Jonas' Parents===
*[[Jonas's parents|They]] are in hiding.
*They are being brainwashed by the Order. (proven)
*They will be found by Alex and help the Resistance.
*They are Bree's real parents. (That would be pretty disgusting given the circumstances)
*They are dead. (disproven)
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]] (proven)
*Jonas' mom is the nurse that helped perform Bree's ceremony.
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.

===Julia===
*[[Jules]] is not the [[New Girl|new girl]]. (proven)
*Jules was a plant by the Order to get Bree. (proven)
*Jules is putting the messages in Bree's blogs. (disproven)
*While Jonas is with Taylor, Julia will come and help them contact Spencer Gilman. (disproven)
*Jules is dead.

===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of the Order. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is Tachyon, and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-OpAphid, through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.

===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] is OpAphid or working for them.
*Lucy did the Ceremony. (Proven Incorrect)
*Lucy did not have knowledge of the Ceremony, and was therefore unable to answer Bree's questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help DJE.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of the Resistance.
*The Mistress knows Bree.
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
*The Mistress is in the Order and killed Isaac Gilman.
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
*The Mistress is Jonas's biological mother.(disproven)

===Rebecca===
*Rebecca is the girl in the photograph with Lucy seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]].
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on Bree for OpAphid.

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*Beth is the mole in [[Deep Throat]]
*The "rock star" was also a guest of Charlie's birthday party.
*Bree's Real Parents were at the party.

===Bree's Biological Parents===
*Bree's biological parents are Jonas's parents.
*They died and the Order took Bree.
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for the Resistance.
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]], this would also mean that Bree and Jonas are biological brother and sister.

===Isaac Gilman===
*[[Isaac Gilman]] was Bree's real father.
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing Bree's dad was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
*He is the specialist who faked his death in Kate Modern.

===Spencer Gilman===
*[[Spencer]] is Bree's brother.
*Spencer is a plant by the order.
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for Daniel and Jonas: save the other ceremony girls.
*Spencer will see KateModern and attempt to break back into the Wyman Foundation and steal Kate's blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*Spencer will no longer appear.
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative.
*Spencer and Taylor will eventually end up together

===Nikki Bower===
*[[Nikki Bower|She]] will find where Bree is being kept and be brainwashed by the HoO. (disproven)
*Alternatively, OpAphid will kill her.
*She is [[LaRezisto]].

===The Watchers===
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting BDJ, not trying to kidnap them.

===Shadows===
*[[Shadows]] and Watchers are against each other within the HoO.

===LaRezisto===
*[[LaRezisto]] will contact Daniel and Jonas and together they will get over their feelings for Bree and save the other girls. (partially proven, he has contacted Jonas)
*LaRezisto is Sophie. (disproven)
*LaRezisto is actually the Order.
*LaRezisto is Scott.
*LaRezisto is Bree coming back from the dead.
*LaRezisto is Nikki B.
*LaRezisto is/are Jonas's parents trying to goad him into saving more girls. (disproven)
*LaRezisto is working against [[TAAG]].
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of Daniels house. He was responsible for Deepthroat and for Alex's betrayal of the Order. When Bree returned to the Hymn Of One unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls.
*LaRezisto is Deep Throat/Alex.
*LaRezisto is Bree's adoptive father, and he didn't die from the gun shot.
*LaRezisto is Spencer.
*LaRezisto is Lucy.
*LaRezisto is Purple Monkey

===Scott===
*[[Scott]] will convince Sarah to rejoin TAAG to save Emma.
*Scott is the Gross Guy.

===Emma===
*[[Emma]] is trait positive. (proven)
*She is not Jonas' Parent's Biological daughter and therefore, not Jonas' biological sister. (proven)
*She is oblivious to her parent's Hymn of One activities.
*Jonas and Daniel will save her from doing the ceremony.
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for the ceremony.
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood,especially the Elders.

===Mallory===
*The flickr account is [[Mallory]]'s.
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls.
*Mallory is a plant by the order.
*Mallory is trait positive.
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.

===Purple Monkey===
*Purple Monkey is AWESOME! (proven)
*Purple Monkey is trait positive, and he will give himself up to protect TAAG.
*Purple Monkey is LaRezisto

== KateModern ==

===Kate===
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from someone, possibly the Order. The order is the connection to lg15.
*Kate was a Ceremony girl. (disproven)
*Kate is [[Cassie]].
*Kate is [[Tachyon]]. (disproven: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Kate is Trait Positive. (proven)
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*Kate is Lucy. (disproven)
*Kate will join the HoO and Gavin, Tariq, and Charlie will try to save her.
*The same people that kidnapped Jonas, Daniel & Bree in Las Vegas and wiped their memories did the same to Kate (disproven)
*Kate is a parallel character to Bree.
*Kate and Bree are twins. (Disproven: Kate is in her late twenties while at the time of her death Bree was only 17)
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister.
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution. (disproven though she stayed in a hospital for a month because of her dreams.)
*The people that wiped Jonas's parents' memories did the same to Kate.
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Kate is possibly suffering from DID resulting in her loss of memories

===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of the Order.
*Charlie is Tariq's ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is dating Gavin.
*Charlie is Gemma's ex-flatmate
*Charlie is Gemma's sister
*Charlie was once pregnant and lost the baby through miscarriage, abortion, or adoption.
*Charlie is a parallel character to Daniel and Taylor.
*Charlie's sister and niece are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much.
*Charlie is a parallel character to Sarah.
*Charlie is working for the HofO or, possibly, the Order.

===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.(disproven)
*Gavin will see the lg15 videos and ask Jonas for a loan. (disproven)
*Gavin is a member of the HofO or the Order.
*Gavin is a member of the Resistance.
*Gavin is a parallel character to Jonas, which could mean that Jonas also has connections to the Order.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate.

===Tariq===
*[[Tariq]] has watched [[lonelygirl15]], and has heard of [[the Order]]. He will be the connection between [[Kate]], [[Charlie]], [[Gavin]], himself, and [[Daniel]], [[Sarah]], [[Taylor]], [[Jonas]], and [[Spencer]] (and possibly [[Bree]]). (disproven: he watched the videos, but only after finding the HoO pamphlet.)
*The Order will kidnap Tariq because he researched the Hymn of One after finding the pamphlet.
* Tariq is a parallel character to Daniel.

===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of the Order
*He's a Watcher. (disproven)
*He is Carl (disproven).
*Steve is a parallel character to [[Alex]].
*He will use his inside knowledge to help Kate and her friends.

===Aunt Joan===
*Aunt Joan is related to Jonas.
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with Nikki Bower.

===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and Spencer are half brothers.
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are parallel characters.
*The Mistress is his mother.
*He is LaRezisto.

== See Also ==
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

A New Hope!!!

2007-09-12T02:57:24Z

Chartreuse: /* Notes */ If KM crossovers aren't allowed, feel free to remove this.

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| caption = We're not afraid.
| blogger = Jonas
| date = September 11th, 2007
| url = {{lg15|355}}
| forumid = 13926
| length = 1:37
| description = We're not afraid anymore, and we're definitely not running.
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'''{{PAGENAME}}''' is the two-hundred eighty-fifth video in the lonelygirl15 video series. It is also the twenty-ninth video of season two.

==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' We're still here. We are still in the Grand Canyon. Did you hear me?? (''yells'') We're still in the Grand Canyon! We're still here! (''laughs'') We're still here. And we're not afraid of you. I can't believe I can say that, but we are not afraid of you. I don't... I don't know what happened on Friday. I have no idea. But something... something happened. [[Emma]] did somethin. (''long pause'') I think. All I know is we were surround and she jumped on one of those guys. He hit the ground really hard and I pulled her off. He was dead. Lifeless. Without a wound, not a mark. Nothing. He was just dead. And I know, I went back and I checked. So... (''sits'') I don't know what happened. I don't even know exactly how it happened, or how he died, but I will tell you this. It was because [[Emma]] touched him. I'm convinced of it. And if it can happen once, then it can happen again. They took their little helicopters and they flew away, and we haven't seen not one sign of the Order all weekend. Not one sign! Tell me guys, where are ya? Where are ya? Ya scared? Are you afraid of us? Well you should be. Cause for the first time, I feel like we've got more than time on our side. We have my sister.

''Jonas holds up the Order member's broken sunglasses, one lens missing. He throws it down and stomps it.''

==Notes==
*This is the second video in a row using three punctuation marks instead of just one or none. Both were titled by Jonas.
*The title a reference to {{wikipedia|Star_Wars_Episode_IV:_A_New_Hope|the first Star Wars movie}}, which was originally released as simply "Star Wars" in 1977, and then retitled to Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope.
*According to [[Dr. William Griffin|Dr. Griffin]] of [[KateModern]] in a [[Dr. Weirdo|video]] uploaded the same day, trait positive girls possess some kind of special power. It is believed that [[Emma]] has this same power, and that this is what killed the Shadow/Watcher.

Talk:Eternal Freaks

2007-08-30T20:26:56Z

Chartreuse: /* Jonas' sister? */

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== Sign off==

Who removed the sign off that was in the offical description? i added it because it was there on the website.

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 18:56, 29 August 2007 (CDT)

== Jonas' sister? ==
Does anyone know if Jonas even remembers having a sister, and if so, why he never mentioned her? This is really bugging me. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 15:26, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

Talk:A Family Affair

2007-08-26T01:27:34Z

Chartreuse: /* Good or bad? */ (sorry, logging in)

Blah! Too depressing!--[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 22:24, 24 August 2007 (CDT)
Yea but at least it doesn't appear like he's going to kill himself! Oh and Captain Obvious called this
on the last Jonas video... I bet you regret the "way to point out the obvious" remark whoever said that! Captain Obvious strikes again!
:... What?

: Folks, please do not use this as a chat area. That is what the forum is for. Also, please sign ALL comments with four tildes ( ~ <<those bad boys). The tildes put your handle and time. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:22, 24 August 2007 (CDT)

== Few things I noticed that may be relevant ==

So here are just a few things I noticed in the video that may be relevant enough to put in the notes.

Firstly, Jonas' parents seem to be brainwashed and don't remember him at all, yet they seem to accept that he is their son very easily. Unless if there was a part not shown where he had shown irrefutable evidence that they were in fact his parents, it seems rather fishy to me.

Secondly, Emma seems to be about 14-17, around the age that Bree was. Now if we are assuming that Jonas' parents were taken and brainwashed 7 years ago, it could be safe to assume that Emma is their adoptive daughter, just as Bree was to her parents. This could possibly be a trend for ceremony girls to be "placed" with a family to raise within the religion until around 16, when they begin to do the preparations for the ceremony. So it could be possible that Emma is the next or one of the next ceremony girls.

Lastly, this could be a stretch, but it could be possible that the end is trying to show or foreshadow possible brainwashing of Jonas into the Order.

Anyone else agree with any of these? -[[User:Macmankev|Macmankev]] 04:00, 25 August 2007 (CDT)

== Good or bad? ==

Has jonas fallen into a trap or is he being given a chance to save his "sister"? --[[User:66.111.51.110|66.111.51.110]] 15:29, 25 August 2007 (CDT)
:I hope this is a chance for him to save his sister. I think his sister is going to end up being really important... like Bree round 2. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:27, 25 August 2007 (CDT)

== Oo WTPT? ==

Reunited
and
it
aint
so
goood!!!!!!

Theories About Characters

2007-08-24T05:17:13Z

Chartreuse: /* Gavin */

Talk:Remember Them?

2007-08-19T00:32:57Z

Chartreuse: /* Jonas's Parents? */

== Jonas's Parents? ==

Is the couple in the video Jonas's parents?
:I'm thinking that if they're not, they're supposed to represent his parents. I think this is the resistance saying "HEY. JONAS. We've got something for you." --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 19:32, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Back to Work

2007-08-17T23:09:00Z

Chartreuse: /* Goodbye Spencer! */

==Goodbye Spencer!==
A character I originally really disliked actually turned into a great little addition to the series. I hope this isn't the end of Spencer though :( [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 01:59, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
:Yeah, I didn't care much for Spencer to begin with either . . . now the little guy has grown on me! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:00, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
:: It seems like they're just going through and showing how every character has been affected by the events of the last season, building up to something really big happening, and then they're all going to be pulled together again. At least I hope so anyway, I want the TAAG to get back together and start rockin' again!!! I'm pretty sure this isn't the end of Spencer, or any of the remaining (with the exception of Bree) main characters. --[[User:SidM|SidM]] 03:47, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
::: I know, that was awfully sentimental to be just another filler... I wonder if his contract with LG15 is up or something and this really is goodbye. He's such a sweetie... I will certainly miss him if that's the last we see of him. I hope they do call him next time around. We need his adorkability to lighten things up! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:09, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

Talk:I'm Done

2007-08-17T05:46:15Z

Chartreuse: /* Boo Hoo :( */

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==Boo Hoo :(==

The acting on this was... amazing. Am I the only one who cried? --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 00:10, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
:Oh no. I cried. :( --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
::You might as well say I cried -- There was no spillage, but I watered up SO FAST. I'm a sap, really . . . --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:26, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

He can't give up yet. :(

Man this video was so sad. -BA (--[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 12:20, 16 August 2007 (CDT))

I would have cried but my dad would have made fun of me :[ -DL

Dude... when he's in the motel room, it SO reminded me of the time that he and Bree were looking for Daniel, and Jonas erected his great wall of Jonas and ended up in the bathtub. Awww... --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 00:46, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

==John Travolta==

Anyone think he sounded like John Travolta in this video? -PB

Talk:I'm Done

2007-08-16T05:10:18Z

Chartreuse:

The acting on this was... amazing. Am I the only one who cried? --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 00:10, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Tariq Attack

2007-08-13T22:54:30Z

Chartreuse:

YES! TARIQ, I LOVE YOU!! Seriously. Tariq is freaking awesome. He should join the resistance and just go kick some HoO... --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:54, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

A Week to Remember

2007-08-12T04:54:09Z

Chartreuse: /* Notes */

{{Blog
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| number = 0243
| image = 0243-BreeBarbCarl.JPG
| caption = She can feel dead people's hands . . . ewww.
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| date = July 30th, 2007
| url = {{lg15|306}}
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| length = 2:10
| description = I'm prepared and I'm excited
| faction = The Order
| status = Public Video
| location = [[The HoO Seminar location]]
| tags = {{tags|lonelygirl15|bree|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko}}


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| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| pa = Ian Schwartz
| directors = Mesh Flinders
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| vidplay = Jan Libby
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, Jan Libby, and Ross Berger
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| music supervisor = Seth Jacobs

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{{VidChar|Carl|Cameos#Craig Coyne{{!}}Craig Coyne}}

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| Next = lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap

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'''{{PAGENAME}}''' is the two hundred forty third video in the lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].

==Transcript==
'''Carl:''' Here's to Bree.

'''Barb:''' To Bree.

'''Bree:''' To the Hymn of One

'''Together:''' To the Hymn of One

'''Carl:''' If you had to describe today? Just one word. What word would you select?

'''Bree:''' Birthday party. That's two words. Or maybe...joy. I feel joy. It's also a time of reflection for me. This is it. This is what we have all been waiting for. I am filled with joy. I am thinking about my parents, my mom who has helped me learn and grow over the last few weeks...thank you mom, and my dad...who even though he can't be here in front of me, I feel his presence. There are times where I actually feel his hand on my shoulder. As if to say you can do it Bree. I can do it, I'm on my path. My path is with the Hymn of One. I am so, so grateful when I realize that none of this would be happening unless I find my song. I sing my song.

'''Carl:''' Now what would life be like for you? If everyday could feel like your birthday? Wouldn't it be wonderful to feel that sort of happiness and love year around? I bet you're wondering what might be the first step to feeling this kind of joy.

'''Barb:''' The first step is to say out loud to the universe...I can find and sing my eternal song.

'''Carl:''' The second step is to contact us at hymnofone.org. Come feel like everyday is your birthday.

'''Bree:''' I found my song. You can find yours.

'''Bree:''' Here's to the Hymn of One.

'''Together:''' To the Hymn of One.

==Notes==
*This video suggests that Bree's mom is safe with the Hymn of One.
*Bree acknowledges the death of her father without mentioning his death was at the hands of The Order affiliates or even in some way related to the Hymn of One.
*Bree's birthday is October 26th. Therefore it is not her birthday party.
*The drinking out of paper cups in this video may be a reference to "Drinking The Purple Kool-Aid" meaning demonstrating blind devotion to a cause as in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid#.22Drinking_the_Kool-Aid.22| Jonestown Massacre of 1978] led by cult leader [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_jones Jim Jones] of the People's Temple.
*Bree looks sad and doesn't smile as much compared to previous hymn of one videos. Also, Bree looks less reluctant to shoot this video compared to previous hymn of one videos.
*The title of this video may be a play on "A Walk to Remember," a movie in which the heroine dies.

They Broke In!!!

2007-07-30T00:25:10Z

Chartreuse: "Mission Possible" was uploaded on a Sunday, so this statement has been bugging me. Also, fixed the other note.

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| caption = [[Ransacked!|Ransacked]] ... again!
| blogger = Bree
| date = July 28th, 2007
| url = {{lg15|305}}
| forumid = 12707
| length = 1:13
| description = I guess someone found our location . . . we're going underground.
| faction = The Resistance
| status = Public Video
| location = [[Minor locations#The Makeshift Lab|The Makeshift Lab]]
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'''{{PAGENAME}}''' is the two hundred forty second video in the lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].

==Transcript==
(''A loud blaring siren sounds in the team's makeshift lab and chaos ensues.'')

'''Spencer:''' Somebody turn that thing off!

'''Taylor:''' Ugh. I got it.

'''Jonas:''' Please hurry... turn it off!

'''Taylor:''' I'm trying! (''She succeeds in shutting off the siren and turning on the lights.'') Oh, Jesus!

'''Sarah:''' Ow.

'''Taylor:''' Spencer, all of our notes. (''She indicates crumpled and ripped pieces of paper.'') All ruined.

'''Daniel:''' I thought you said this place was safe, man.

'''Jonas:''' What are we going to do now? This... every time! What are we gonna do?

'''Sarah:''' Someone really messed this place up.

'''Taylor:''' Obviously. Oh my God, Spencer, the serum.

'''Spencer:''' (''He hurries over to a locked metal compartment, opens the door, and finds the serum still intact.'') It's here. It's still here. (''Everyone shares a collective sigh of relief.'')

'''Jonas:''' Thank God.

'''Sarah:''' Well, something went our way. You guys, we should get out of here. Come on, we gotta go.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, where are we supposed to go?

'''Sarah:''' I don't know!

'''Daniel:''' Everybody shut up, they could still be out there! Let's go.

'''Taylor:''' Do you think a [[Shadow]] did this?

'''Jonas:''' Who cares? A Shadow, whatever.

'''Daniel:''' Let's go.

==Notes==
* This was  posted under [[Bree|Bree's "lonelygirl15" account]], rather than one of the other's.
* This video was uploaded on the weekend, which is quite rare.
* When Spencer opens up the safe, it has the key in it already.

Talk:Something's Coming

2007-07-28T18:32:43Z

Chartreuse:

==significance??==
Can anyone explain to me the significance of that second note? --[[user:jeans|jeans]] 04:07, July 28
:if you mean the note trying to link the enochian to character's birthsigns on the show, i think its some not-yet-complete speculation as to what bree's enochian was supposed to mean. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 07:25, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

"Sarah is an Aries, Jules is a Gemini, Daniel is a Sagittarius, Jonas is a Leo, Nikki Bower is a Pisces, and Bree is a Scorpio."
:And I'm an Aquarius! I'll be there! (Sorry, had to throw that in) --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 13:32, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Tariq

2007-07-26T22:54:40Z

Chartreuse:

Tariq's cool... but I'm about to officially instigate "Tariq-brows" because his eyebrows distract me much more than Bree's ever did. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:54, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Portal:lonelygirl15

2007-07-26T22:53:08Z

Chartreuse: /* Screenshots? */

Crazy! I love it! I provided an option for a new photo for Jonas on the main page discussion, but it seems like it would be more useful on this page now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] Reposted from July 11]]

:Actually, the consensus from before was a yes, and I think he looks darn good there too, so um, if no one objects by say, tommorow, why don't I change the pic? :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
::I'm a fan of the latest pic of Jonas (now that its clearer), but I won't really mind if it was changed. I do wonder though -- is there the chance we could that the names of the characters can be placed to the left of their respective picture, with the lettering going up-to-down?? Then maybe the pics won't look so broken up . . . Anyways, great job to everyone who helped with the remodeling!--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Really Pheon?? That was actually one of my favorite parts of the design! I felt like each character had their own little "pedistol" if you will. Kind of said, "look at me. I am important." Haha, I don't know, I guess we could see what other people think, but like I said, this is one of my favorite parts of the design atm! :o --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

[EDIT] I did some mockups to see how it would look, and ugh, it came out bad. I mean, I can try to redo them if you want (I didn't save), but meh. Like I said.. character... pedastol... yay! xP. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:Well, I'm not an expert of wiki-codes, so if you said the attempt turned out bad, then it probably did. Eh, it's sorta growing on me . . . :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:46, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I like this pic, but it doesn't match well with the others. I would be in favor of updating the other pics with ones that look better with this pic, but until then I think we should leave the one thats up there now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Spencer ==

If spencer is on the portal for main characters, then shouldn't he be on the character template as a main character..--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]]([[User talk:Houdini|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Houdini|contribs]])
:However, isn't he only going to be a main character for two months?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
I agree. If he's only here for two months, we can always remove him. I say, once a character has posted a blog that ends up on the main LG15 site, it is fair to consider them a "main blogging character". I'd also move him up on the [[Characters]] page as well. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:52, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Screenshots? ==
Seriously, where are they? The last couple of videos just straight up don't have them, and they don't seem to be on the KMPortal either. Is this just lack of time, or are we changing that idea around? If it's lack of time, I'll do it myself... I just wanted to make sure. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:53, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

Charlie

2007-07-26T22:50:53Z

Chartreuse:

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| last = Who would live in a room like this?
| unseen = yes
| color = #ae2301}}
'''Charlie''' <[[Bebo]]:ChazOnToast> is [[Kate]]'s best friend and roommate in the [[KateModern]] series. They share a flat in East London. Kate believes she is a bit mad, but she excuses this because Charlie introduced her to Vegemite.

Charlie grew up in the suburbs in Melbourne, Australia. While she was there, she dated a few guys whom she calls "boring mincers." Since moving to London, she has let her hair down a bit, and enjoys partying and dancing. Her favorite food is tomato sauce.

===Theories===
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Charlie|link]] for theories about Charlie.

{{KateCharIndex}}

Talk:I like Pigeons!

2007-07-19T00:51:08Z

Chartreuse:

== Accent ==
If anyone fancies doing an article about the British locations the characters come from, based on their accents, I'd put her in the south, somewhere near Oxford. Any takers? [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 12:50, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
: Her accent actually struck me as sounding quite a bit like Gemma's. That was my first thought. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 19:51, 18 July 2007 (CDT)

Talk:KMPedia

2007-07-12T00:41:35Z

Chartreuse:

== Is it O.K. ==

Is it O.K. with everyone that I changed the header colors to the same red color in the main banner to make everything look a little bit more coordinated? Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 23:38, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
:Ack, I feel like I'm jumping all over you today, but I'm not, I swear! :P I actually think that the red subheaders make it TOO red.. kind of an overwhelm.. the grey was a nice break up in the page, similar to our current main page. I think I'm going to change it back for now, but the way you have it will still be in the page's history if anyone wants to comment on it. Just for me, personally, it's too bright. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:43, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
::I know, I know. Right now I'm experimenting with the color slider to find a nice medium. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 23:46, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
::O.K., is this color too bright? <div style="margin:0;background-color:#D17171;font-size:120%;border:1px solid #FF6666;text-align:center;color:#fff;padding:0.2em 0.4em;">[[Image:star.gif]]  asdfghjkl;   [[Image:star.gif]]</div> I can't really tell if it looks right. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 23:53, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Hm, I actually think that we should stick with the darker grey colored borders as they really break up the pages nicely and in clear, distinctive places. My notes about the color were just making sure the border color "meshed" with the header colors and whatnot. I couldn't decide about that. But yeah. Ugh, I must say though, you are working so hard on this, I REALLY appriciate it :) We always need more hard worker people over at the LGPedia :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:55, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
::::O.K.! I am sorta new to Wiki Syntax and everything, so currently on most peoples standards, I suck at life xD. Hmmm, I'll get some experience, though, and try to get more involved with the LGPedia.
:::::Okay, this has been bugging me as a web designer. I like the dark grey borders, but I personally think that the 1px red border around them looks awful. The blue border on the main page has always bugged me, but it stands out a lot more with the red. Anyhow, I'm still working on getting up to par with wiki syntax or I'd just edit a preview myself... but I think those borders would look best with a grey just a few shades darker than each bar... if that makes sense. I'd say probably #444 for the darker bar and #666 for the lighter bar. HOWEVER, that's just the opinion of a designer who's barely feeling here way along wiki-land. LOL --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 19:37, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::EDIT: I think I'll just steal [[User:-R-]]'s bar...<div style="margin:0;background-color:#535353;font-size:120%;border:1px solid #333;text-align:center;color:#fff;padding:0.2em 0.4em;">[[Image:star.gif]]  ENCYCLOPEDIA   [[Image:star.gif]]</div>
::::::and<div style="margin:0;background-color:#909090;font-size:120%;border:1px solid #666;text-align:center;color:#fff;padding:0.2em 0.4em;">Latest Developments</div>
::::::I think those look a lot more... professional? /soapbox. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 19:41, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

Talk:KMPedia

2007-07-12T00:37:38Z

Chartreuse:

Talk:Main Page

2007-07-11T20:36:12Z

Chartreuse: /* Jonas' Picture */

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===How about with colors? ===
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:DeepPink; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:MidnightBlue; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:DarkOrange; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|-
|}

:Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:: I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

:::: I really think it looks bad. Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

::::: Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors. Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column. Quite the milestone for them. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::: I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

== Breeniverse Timeline ==

Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

:The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

==Sarah and Taylor==
Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page. I mean, if they ''don't'' end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them. They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box. Thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree with putting them up. The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor. They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Sarah-in-Car.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Quotes.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0184-SarahHoldingLipstick-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Sarahimageforfc.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 3]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 4]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 5]]'''
|-
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Taylor-IRecognizeHer.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 3]]'''
|-
|}
--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask). But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5. 1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]] 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR um, yeah. How should we handle the alignment with five chars? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

::Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

::I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish). It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be ''desaturated''.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else... But basically, other than that, are we good to go?

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

::I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:::It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images. the pyramid looks awfull -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|}
::The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I REALLY like the way it looks. However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven. For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4? It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced. Y/N? ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions. Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
: in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:: without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Sounds great to me. No objections here. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Sure, sounds fine. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

== Swap Taylor and Sarah ==

I noticed that [[User:FH14|FH14]] just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

:I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

:::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::::And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::I like it... and it also works alphabetically! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

== Jonas' Picture ==

[[Image:jonasdonttickle.JPG|thumb|left|200px|[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
[[Image:Jonasbyfireplace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]

Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--[[User:jeans|jeans]]
::I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::Any mods like to put their input? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey. As for me, the left one rocks. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above. Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Oh, me! :P I vote yes! I really like the left picture :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added. Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P. That's not a problem. We just need to get it looking right! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio. If it's wrong, revert it. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, his face was too big. Grr. I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Um... you know what? Bad news. There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds." :-( ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::::You know, how do we feel about a shot from [[The Morning After]]? Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others. The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
[[Image:Jonas3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --[[User:jeans|jeans]]]]I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

:::::Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::I too like the idea. :)--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

 
It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasToplessInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasLaughingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 1'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 2'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 3'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 4'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 5'''
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{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}
<center>[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)</center>
 

Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me. I vote for the sharpened current one too. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:Man... why does that pic from [[Bedside Manner]] have to be too big?? Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement. The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:: I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

::I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:::OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] July 11]]{{Clr}}
I'm going to just throw another headshot out there and see if anyone likes it better than the current one. It obviously would still need to be properly cropped and sized.--[[user:jeans|jeans]] July 11
: I love this! I was actually thinking "he looks so nice" as I was watching this video today. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 15:36, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

== Adding Spencer, changing sizes. ==

Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! [[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | My Sandbox]] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

::Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-right-width: 0; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Spencer|Spencer]]'''
|-
|}

::: i like that. 5 across was looking a little long to me, actually --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 07:54, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

I think it's a fine idea, and it looks good, but I propose we wait to make any changes until we make the whole Portal pages live, just so we don't overcomplicate things. *nods* --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:40, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
: Oh, that's what I had figured on, which is why it was just on my sandbox page for now. I just had Photoshop open at the same time as Spencer's latest, so I was like... HMMM... *nods back* --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:46, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::Okay awesome :) Ooh, hey, if you've still got PS open, someone needs to crop the images on [[User:Zoey/sandbox]] to make them fit in the boxes properly. It might involve cropping.. or adding like.. a white background or something.. I dont know, whatever to make it look good. But yeah, just a though, especially if you have PS opened already :) Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:50, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:: O.O! I refuse to admit to the fact that I had already been messing with them. Scary! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:55, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>raises hand* I volunteer to crop *runs to PhotoPlus* MEEP Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:::And heeeerrrreee we go!
:::[[Image:LG15PortalImageCropped.jpg]]
:::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageCropped.jpg]]
:::I'll go ahead and put them in your sandbox now, Zoey. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:47, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

The LG one looks good, but does the KM one look slightly fuzzy to anyone else? Is that fixable? Gah, I hope we get the "new" cast photos Miles promised soon, I don't like how these two are so vastly different in sizes with the people (the Kate cast is so BIG compared to the LG cast! Haha). Other than that though, I think it's good. Anyone else have any thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:25, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:With the KM one, it was already fuzzy. That is the sharpened version, but I'll sharpen it a bit more. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:26, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::OK, hows this:
::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageSharpened.jpg]]
::It's increased a little bit. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:32, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

::(Ooops, wrong size (and I airbrushed a little bit.) Here:
::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageAirbrushed.jpg]]
::Hows that?) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:37, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

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===How about with colors? ===
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:Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:: I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

:::: I really think it looks bad. Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

::::: Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors. Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column. Quite the milestone for them. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::: I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

== Breeniverse Timeline ==

Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

:The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

==Sarah and Taylor==
Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page. I mean, if they ''don't'' end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them. They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box. Thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree with putting them up. The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor. They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?

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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 3]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 4]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 5]]'''
|-
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Taylor-IRecognizeHer.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 3]]'''
|-
|}
--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask). But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5. 1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]] 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR um, yeah. How should we handle the alignment with five chars? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

::Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

::I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish). It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be ''desaturated''.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else... But basically, other than that, are we good to go?

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

::I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:::It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images. the pyramid looks awfull -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|}
::The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I REALLY like the way it looks. However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven. For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4? It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced. Y/N? ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions. Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
: in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:: without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Sounds great to me. No objections here. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Sure, sounds fine. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

== Swap Taylor and Sarah ==

I noticed that [[User:FH14|FH14]] just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

:I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

:::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::::And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::I like it... and it also works alphabetically! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

== Jonas' Picture ==

[[Image:jonasdonttickle.JPG|thumb|left|200px|[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
[[Image:Jonasbyfireplace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]

Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--[[User:jeans|jeans]]
::I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::Any mods like to put their input? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey. As for me, the left one rocks. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above. Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Oh, me! :P I vote yes! I really like the left picture :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added. Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P. That's not a problem. We just need to get it looking right! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio. If it's wrong, revert it. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, his face was too big. Grr. I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Um... you know what? Bad news. There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds." :-( ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::::You know, how do we feel about a shot from [[The Morning After]]? Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others. The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
[[Image:Jonas3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --[[User:jeans|jeans]]]]I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

:::::Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::I too like the idea. :)--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

 
It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasToplessInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasLaughingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 1'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 2'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 3'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 4'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 5'''
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}
<center>[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)</center>
 

Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me. I vote for the sharpened current one too. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:Man... why does that pic from [[Bedside Manner]] have to be too big?? Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement. The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:: I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

::I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:::OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Adding Spenser, changing sizes. ==

Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! [[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | My Sandbox]] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

::Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-right-width: 0; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Spencer|Spencer]]'''
|-
|}

I think it's a fine idea, and it looks good, but I propose we wait to make any changes until we make the whole Portal pages live, just so we don't overcomplicate things. *nods* --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:40, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
: Oh, that's what I had figured on, which is why it was just on my sandbox page for now. I just had Photoshop open at the same time as Spencer's latest, so I was like... HMMM... *nods back* --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:46, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::Okay awesome :) Ooh, hey, if you've still got PS open, someone needs to crop the images on [[User:Zoey/sandbox]] to make them fit in the boxes properly. It might involve cropping.. or adding like.. a white background or something.. I dont know, whatever to make it look good. But yeah, just a though, especially if you have PS opened already :) Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:50, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:: O.O! I refuse to admit to the fact that I had already been messing with them. Scary! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:55, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

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Chartreuse: /* Adding Spenser, changing sizes. */

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===How about with colors? ===
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:DeepPink; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:MidnightBlue; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:DarkOrange; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|-
|}

:Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:: I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

:::: I really think it looks bad. Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

::::: Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors. Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column. Quite the milestone for them. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::: I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

== Breeniverse Timeline ==

Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

:The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

==Sarah and Taylor==
Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page. I mean, if they ''don't'' end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them. They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box. Thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree with putting them up. The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor. They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Sarah-in-Car.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Quotes.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0184-SarahHoldingLipstick-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Sarahimageforfc.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 3]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 4]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 5]]'''
|-
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Taylor-IRecognizeHer.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 3]]'''
|-
|}
--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask). But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5. 1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]] 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR um, yeah. How should we handle the alignment with five chars? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

::Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

::I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish). It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be ''desaturated''.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else... But basically, other than that, are we good to go?

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

::I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:::It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images. the pyramid looks awfull -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|}
::The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I REALLY like the way it looks. However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven. For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4? It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced. Y/N? ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions. Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
: in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:: without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Sounds great to me. No objections here. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Sure, sounds fine. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

== Swap Taylor and Sarah ==

I noticed that [[User:FH14|FH14]] just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

:I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

:::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::::And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::I like it... and it also works alphabetically! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

== Jonas' Picture ==

[[Image:jonasdonttickle.JPG|thumb|left|200px|[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
[[Image:Jonasbyfireplace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]

Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--[[User:jeans|jeans]]
::I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::Any mods like to put their input? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey. As for me, the left one rocks. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above. Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Oh, me! :P I vote yes! I really like the left picture :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added. Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P. That's not a problem. We just need to get it looking right! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio. If it's wrong, revert it. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, his face was too big. Grr. I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Um... you know what? Bad news. There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds." :-( ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::::You know, how do we feel about a shot from [[The Morning After]]? Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others. The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
[[Image:Jonas3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --[[User:jeans|jeans]]]]I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

:::::Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::I too like the idea. :)--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

 
It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasToplessInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasLaughingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 1'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 2'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 3'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 4'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 5'''
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{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}
<center>[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)</center>
 

Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me. I vote for the sharpened current one too. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:Man... why does that pic from [[Bedside Manner]] have to be too big?? Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement. The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:: I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

::I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:::OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Adding Spenser, changing sizes. ==

Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! [[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | My Sandbox]] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

::Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
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{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-right-width: 0; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Spencer|Spencer]]'''
|-
|}

I think it's a fine idea, and it looks good, but I propose we wait to make any changes until we make the whole Portal pages live, just so we don't overcomplicate things. *nods* --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:40, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
: Oh, that's what I had figured on, which is why it was just on my sandbox page for now. I just had Photoshop open at the same time as Spencer's latest, so I was like... HMMM... *nods back* --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:46, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

User:Chartreuse/Userboxes

2007-07-10T23:44:15Z

Chartreuse:

Userboxes... totally up my alley. I'm compiling a collection. I'm also going to start making my own. *grins*

{{Userbox Jonas}} {{Userbox Owen}} {{Userbox OtherMonkey}} {{Userbox Still Gemma}} {{Userbox DanielDark}} {{Userbox Op}} {{Userbox Cassieiswatching}} {{Userbox BackTach}} {{Userbox Lonelybeast}} {{Userbox 14Hours}} {{Userbox Foosball}} {{Userbox Growup}} {{Userbox Sombrero}} {{Userbox Make Out}} {{Userbox CrushJTKO}} {{Userbox CrushSpencer}} {{Userbox BJ hookup}} {{Userbox DS hookup}} {{Userbox FanDate|September 2006]]}} {{Userbox Lonelycrack}} {{Userbox woolcap}} {{Userbox FanVid2}} {{Userbox Firefox}} {{Userbox UBObsession}} {{Userbox L'Care}} {{Userbox Spencer Camera}} {{Userbox SpencerEat}} {{Userbox Sarahaccount}} {{Userbox Preview}}

Talk:Main Page

2007-07-10T23:26:40Z

Chartreuse: /* Adding Spenser, changing sizes. */

''We've had some problems with vandalism on the talk page here. For now, only registered users can leave comments here. If you have a question to ask, feel free to [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]], it's fast, easy, fun and free. Or, if you have questions, you can always ask our administrators, [[User_talk:Brucker|Brucker]], [[User_talk:JayHenry|JayHenry]], [[User_talk:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], [[User_talk:Jonpro|Jonpro]], [[User_talk:Psmith|Psmith]], and [[User_talk:Zoey|Zoey]].''

== Talk Archive for Main Page ==
*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_up_to_November_2006 | Archive up to November 2006]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Nov-Dec 2006 | Archive from November up to December 2006]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Dec-Jan 2007 | Archive from December up to January 2006]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/redesign/archive of dicussion | Archive of redesign discussion]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/redesign | Archive of final redesign discussion]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Jan-Feb2007]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive of character box discussion]]
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive_March-Mid_May]]

===How about with colors? ===
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|align=center style="background:DarkOrange; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
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:Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:: I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

:::: I really think it looks bad. Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

::::: Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors. Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column. Quite the milestone for them. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::: I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

== Breeniverse Timeline ==

Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

:The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

==Sarah and Taylor==
Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page. I mean, if they ''don't'' end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them. They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box. Thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree with putting them up. The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor. They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Sarahimageforfc.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 3]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 4]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 5]]'''
|-
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Taylor-IRecognizeHer.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 3]]'''
|-
|}
--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask). But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5. 1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]] 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR um, yeah. How should we handle the alignment with five chars? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

::Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

::I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish). It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be ''desaturated''.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else... But basically, other than that, are we good to go?

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

::I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:::It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images. the pyramid looks awfull -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|}
::The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I REALLY like the way it looks. However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven. For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4? It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced. Y/N? ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions. Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
: in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:: without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Sounds great to me. No objections here. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Sure, sounds fine. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

== Swap Taylor and Sarah ==

I noticed that [[User:FH14|FH14]] just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

:I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

:::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::::And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::I like it... and it also works alphabetically! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

== Jonas' Picture ==

[[Image:jonasdonttickle.JPG|thumb|left|200px|[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
[[Image:Jonasbyfireplace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]

Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--[[User:jeans|jeans]]
::I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::Any mods like to put their input? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey. As for me, the left one rocks. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above. Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Oh, me! :P I vote yes! I really like the left picture :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added. Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P. That's not a problem. We just need to get it looking right! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio. If it's wrong, revert it. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, his face was too big. Grr. I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Um... you know what? Bad news. There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds." :-( ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::::You know, how do we feel about a shot from [[The Morning After]]? Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others. The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
[[Image:Jonas3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --[[User:jeans|jeans]]]]I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

:::::Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::I too like the idea. :)--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

 
It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasToplessInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasLaughingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 1'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 2'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 3'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 4'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 5'''
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|}
<center>[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)</center>
 

Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me. I vote for the sharpened current one too. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:Man... why does that pic from [[Bedside Manner]] have to be too big?? Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement. The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:: I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

::I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:::OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Adding Spenser, changing sizes. ==

Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! [[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | My Sandbox]] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

::Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-right-width: 0; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Spencer|Spencer]]'''
|-
|}

Talk:Main Page

2007-07-10T23:15:35Z

Chartreuse: /* Adding Spenser, changing sizes. */

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===How about with colors? ===
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:DeepPink; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:MidnightBlue; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:DarkOrange; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|-
|}

:Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:: I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

:::: I really think it looks bad. Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

::::: Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors. Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column. Quite the milestone for them. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
::::::: I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

== Breeniverse Timeline ==

Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

:The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

==Sarah and Taylor==
Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page. I mean, if they ''don't'' end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them. They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box. Thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
:I agree with putting them up. The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor. They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Sarah-in-Car.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Quotes.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0184-SarahHoldingLipstick-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Sarahimageforfc.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 3]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 4]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah 5]]'''
|-
|}

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Taylor-IRecognizeHer.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 1]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 2]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor 3]]'''
|-
|}
--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask). But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5. 1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]] 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR

{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

OR um, yeah. How should we handle the alignment with five chars? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

::Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

::I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

:I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish). It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be ''desaturated''.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else... But basically, other than that, are we good to go?

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|}
{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px; cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|-
|}

Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

::I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:::It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images. the pyramid looks awfull -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

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|-
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|}
::The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I REALLY like the way it looks. However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven. For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4? It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced. Y/N? ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

:I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions. Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
: in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:: without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Sounds great to me. No objections here. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Sure, sounds fine. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

== Swap Taylor and Sarah ==

I noticed that [[User:FH14|FH14]] just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

:I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

:::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

::::And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::I like it... and it also works alphabetically! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

== Jonas' Picture ==

[[Image:jonasdonttickle.JPG|thumb|left|200px|[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
[[Image:Jonasbyfireplace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]

Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--[[User:jeans|jeans]]
::I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::Any mods like to put their input? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey. As for me, the left one rocks. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above. Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Oh, me! :P I vote yes! I really like the left picture :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added. Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P. That's not a problem. We just need to get it looking right! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
::::I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio. If it's wrong, revert it. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, his face was too big. Grr. I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Um... you know what? Bad news. There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds." :-( ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::::You know, how do we feel about a shot from [[The Morning After]]? Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others. The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
[[Image:Jonas3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --[[User:jeans|jeans]]]]I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

:::::Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::I too like the idea. :)--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

 
It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasToplessInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasLaughingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 2'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 3'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 4'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''Jonas 5'''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
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<center>[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)</center>
 

Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me. I vote for the sharpened current one too. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:Man... why does that pic from [[Bedside Manner]] have to be too big?? Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement. The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:: I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

::I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:::OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Adding Spenser, changing sizes. ==

Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! [[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | My Sandbox]] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

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2007-07-10T21:51:31Z

Chartreuse: /* Just an Idea */

==Question==
Hey, I'm curious -- what does 'first' and 'last' refer to when the current look has it blank??--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:42, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

:It ''should'' only be blank if you don't have anything in there. If you put something for first/last you should get the normal "Person" display. (Should being the operative word here.) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:49, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
::Well, FYI, its not working on my profile for some reason (that, or I'm just being a moron . . . which is more common than I'd wish :P).--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:16, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
:::It's totally just you being a moron!! Haha, no I'm kidding. I have no idea. I don't have time atm but later I shall look into it. Thanks for letting me know!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 12:55, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yeah, [[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] is right. Now there's a big chunk of empty space on my profile, and I filled in the "first" and "last" things. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:22, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
:Hey, Renegade, thanks a bunch! I just noticed! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:44, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

==Just an Idea==
O.K., I was thinking of making an edit to the fan person template adding on favorites. Like favorite character, favorite video, favorite ARG, favorite article, etc. Also we can add in little personal things such as favorite color, food, TV show, and things like that. I'm not sure, really. It would give it more of an "about me" feel in the user pages. I want to get feedback before I do anything because I have done that before, and it makes me look lie a wikiwhore, if you know what I mean. So what is all of y'all's point of view </texan accent> Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 00:39, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(('''Note:''' I moved this topic from Lucy's Balcony to here. This is actually probably a better place for this convo.. but YAY youre making progress! And no, you dont look like a wiki-whore :P)) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:44, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

((Yeah, this would be a better spot, thanks.)) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 00:47, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:I think that's a great idea, -R-! The FanPerson ''could'' use a little sprucing up :) I'd love to have a place to put favorite color, favorite food, etc. Keep in mind though that those lovely Userboxes already provide a great place for Favorite Characters, crushes, and episodes. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:48, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::Well, of course I remember! I love the userboxs, but just a little more info might make it look more fan-ish, but goodness I don't mean to replace the infamous USERBOX! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 00:50, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Sounds like a good idea to me too! Why don't you make a list of fields you'd like to see added so you can get some feedback before you make them live. And actually, if you post a finalized list here, I'd be happy to do the actual coding (you said you were unfamiliar with wiki-coding, so I just
wanted to put the offer on the table :)) Can't wait to see what you come up with! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:37, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::It wasn't until I posted my thoughts did I decide to check your page, -R-, and ''good Lord'', did I feel the dork to remind you about Userboxes! :P That said, My previous suggestions of Favorite Color & Favorite Food will be my contribution of the night . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:25, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::::OK, here as what I was thinking of. We should do the following fields:
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::::'''Series Favorite...'''
::::Blogger: [[Bree]]
::::Episode: [[My Mom's A Freak!]]
::::Cannon: [[Nikki Bower]]
::::Quote: [[Spring Break Sucks|''Aaah, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa!!!'']] -[[Daniel]]
::::Relationship: [[Relationships#Bree_and_Jonas|Bree+Jonas]]
::::'''Personal Favorite...'''
::::Food: Salad
::::TV Show: King of the Hill
::::Book: Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
::::Movie: RENT
::::Song: Fly by Kite by Hazel and Vine
::::Color: Steal Blue
::::'''Choice of...'''
::::Music: Indie/Emo
::::Browser: FireFox
::::Video Site: YouTube
::::Social Networking Site: MySpace
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::::And so on. I can't think of all of them, so y'all </texan accent again> can help me out on this. Really, I think some of them are too much, and there are some I can't think of, so again, I need help from everyone. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 15:42, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:::::I LOVE the idea of, at the very least, the "series" favorites. Like... I might add that to mine for the heck of it. *grins*. That's really cool. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 16:51, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

User:Chartreuse

2007-07-10T21:46:37Z

Chartreuse: /* Subpages */

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"Chartreuse" is a Lonelygirl15.com forum member (by the same username) who has been watching the saga since Bree started [[Proving_Science_Wrong|proving science wrong]]. She is 20, lives in Oklahoma, and is studying web design independently.

Lonelygirl15 is her first major internet obsession... and the series became that much sweeter with the addition of [[Jonas]].

==ARG Involvement==
Meli, under the name of "Lanie", became heavily involved in the [[GuillotineCalamity]] [[ARG]], working to decode clues almost around the clock. She also followed the [[Cassieiswatching]] and [[OpAphid]] [[ARG]]s, but... wasn't as good at them.

She's done some [[ARG]] videos, but won't tell you which ones.

== Subpages ==
*[[User:Chartreuse/Userboxes | My Userboxes]]
*[[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | Sandbox o'Fun]]

User:Chartreuse/Sandbox

2007-07-10T21:45:48Z

Chartreuse: Playing with adding Spencer to the front page character table?

This is just me playing with a front page / LGPortal idea...

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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|Taylor]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-right-width: 0; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|Sarah]]'''
|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Spencer|Spencer]]'''
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File:0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg

2007-07-10T21:35:28Z

Chartreuse: Category:Images of Spencer

[[Category:Images of Spencer]]

Talk:I'm Here To Help

2007-07-10T02:30:01Z

Chartreuse:

Oh goodness, what a lovable dork. <3 Anyhow, I can't place his accent. He says "Sarah" a bit strangely, and a few other words that I can't remember now. Anyone have an idea? --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 19:44, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
: Listened again, and I have a Canadian friend who says "weren't" the same way. Hmm. Okay, back to my bubble. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 21:30, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

==References==
Does anyone know what he was referencing in this video? The commercial...er?? Haha I don't think I've ever seen it before, does anyone know it? I am also not sure what he's talking about with Cliff Sawyer and the other-dimensional world of Sonad? If anyone could provide the info it'd be great, thanks! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:18, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

== Ahaha, Terry... or Terri... or Terrie... WHATEVER! ==

Ugh,
there are numerous ways to spell it!

Whatever,
but I think I am TOTALLY gonna make a userbox for Terr(y/i/ie) later. ...::Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] at 20:27, 9 July 2007 (CDT)::...
:I think that mostly Terry is the masculine way to spell it and Terri is the feminine way to spell it. At least, that's how I've always seen it written. I'm sure there are exceptions though. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:38, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I agree. I always thought any name ending with an "i" is a type of name for a female (i.e., my name is Randy, I am male, and I have a friend named Randi, she is... not) ...::Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] at 20:47, 9 July 2007 (CDT)::...
8-O uh, dude's in a suit... no sunglasses, but what if he's an Order who's not wise to Science Jr's schemes?

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List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

2007-07-10T00:47:07Z

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<ol>
===Before Bree===
[[Paytotheorderofofof vs. Dinosaur]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[YouTubers Secret Language]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Misdirected. Lost Visual in the Burn Out]] {{Init|Brother}}
 [[Sparks Are Flying]] {{Init|Brother}}
 [[3-2-1 Contact]] {{Init|Brother}}
 
 
===In The Beginning...===
<li>[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Purple Monkey (video)|Purple Monkey]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[School Work in Summer... BLECHH!!!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Danielbeast]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Grillz feat. Danielbeast, LG15, P. Monkey, and O'n.]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Parents Suck...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Daniel Responds]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Daniel Returns, and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Proving Science Wrong!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Bree & Daniel's Relationship===
<li>[[Boy Problems...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Girl Problems...]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[He Said, She Said]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Lazy Eye (and P. Monkey gets Funky!)]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Proving Science Wrong... with Lonelybeast and Danielgirl15]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Daniel The Neanderthal]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Bree's Religion===
<li>[[What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Add Poe Hinder Vilification]] {{Init|WarPylol}}
<li>[[What Bree's Dad Said...]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Me, Religion, and Daniel :(]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[I Probably Shouldn't Post This...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Mysteries of My Past... REVEALED!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[A Peace Offering (and P. Monkey Boogies)]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[To Hell With Bree's Dad (yeah!)]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[I'm Really, Really, Really Excited!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Swimming!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Bree The Cookie Monster]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[A Change In My Life]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Poor Pluto]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===More Bree & Daniel's Relationship===
<li>[[I Want to Take Bree to a Party!]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Should I Or Shouldn't I?]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[I'm Going to the Party!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[House Arrest]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[In The Park]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[What's A Date?]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My First Kiss]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Learning To Drive]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Equinox]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[How Could You?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
===The Ceremony===
<li>[[My Difficult Decision]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[You Made the Right Choice, Bree!]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[An update of sorts]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Who Is This?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[My Helper]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[DO GO TO GOD, Cassie (for my helper)]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[How My Parents Met]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Where Are They Going?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Daniel Crossed The Line]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Order of Denderah]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Everyone Hates Cassie: What a poor, lonely girl.]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[They Attack Cassie! Is Daniel Next? He Crossed the Line.]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[Zodiac of Denderah]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[What ever happened to that girl, Cassie?]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[Aleister Crowley (Video)|Aleister Crowley]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[The Ceremony Is Tomorrow :)]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Cassie is Lying, Cassie Tells Lies]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[The Ceremony]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[I Completed The Ceremony]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===More Questions===
<li>[[Following The Helper]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Daniel, Be Careful...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Where's Daniel?]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Nut Kills Man]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[Disclosure: Cassie. We Are "They"]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[Which Side Are You On? (Keep This In Mind)]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[I'm Hiding Out]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Cassie Does Not R.I.P. (Rest In Peace)]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[I Lied To Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Living In London]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[My lonesome update for mid October]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[I Listened To Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Hi Gemma!]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Things Turn Dark===
<li>[[It's Not Your Decision]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[I Talked To My Parents]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[Proving Longitude Wrong]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[URGENT: For My Helper!]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Thanks Gemma...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[They Disappeared...]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[What Makes Us Sad?]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Life's Not Fair]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Bree & Daniel Escape===
<li>[[Still At Daniel's]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Where Are My Parents?]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[They Are Still Everywhere]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Horrid Flatmates]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[What I Found at Topanga Canyon - NBR 2]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[On The Run]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Learning Egyptian]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[What's in the Box/Bree & Daniel Update - NBR 3]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Motel Pool]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[They Are Watching]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Don't Trust The Authorities]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Exploring The Motel]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===The Watchers===
<li>[[Someone's Following You]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Man In The Suit]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Breakfast In Bed]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[My Name Is Jonas]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[A Watcher]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Fleeing The Watcher]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Watchers Everywhere]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Survival Skills]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Silent Treatment]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Bored At Home]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[An Awkward Silence]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Date With P. Monkey]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Happy Thanksgiving]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Thanksgiving]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[My Day at the Movies - NBR 5]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
 [[Adventures in Babysitting]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[Mysteries of My Past... Revealed: My Time in Suburbia]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
 
 
===Bree & Daniel Get Desperate===
<li>[[Ransacked!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Scared To Go Home]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Trust Issues]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Jonas?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Daniel Is Right]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Homeless]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Knock 'Em Down]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Warwalking]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Anti-Cribs]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Bad Decisions]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[Home Alone]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[The Test]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Where Is Jonas?]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
 
 
===Going To Jonas===
<li>[[Your Decision]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Back Home]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Gemma? (Part I)]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
 [[Gemma? (Part II)]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Tough Cookie]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Gemma, Who Are You?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Cheer Me Up]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Back At Bree's]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Gemma? (Part III)]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
 [[Investigating Gemma - NBR 7]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Bree Phone Home]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Undisclosed Location]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Skateboarding]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Breaking And Entering]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Mystery Movies]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Happy Holidays LG15 - NBR 8]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Christmas Surprise]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
===Bree Makes A Move===
<li>[[Bree's Gone]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 [[Gemma (Part IV)]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Roadtrip]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[The Unthinkable Happened]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Gemma (Part V)]] {{Init|Brother}}
<li>[[Bree's Dad Is Dead]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[My Dad Said...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[45 Seconds]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Purple Monkey Returns]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Foosball]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[The Last Hours of Bree's Dad's Life - NBR 9]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Hiding In The Bathroom]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Bree & Daniel's Relationship ''Ad Nauseam''===
<li>[[Bree And I Hooked Up]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[The Ends Justify The Means]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[Kicked Out]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Daniel’s A Liar]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Truth Or Dare]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Hungover]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Investigating Pins and Pints]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Time To Grow Up]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Foosball Battle]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Naming Bree's Dad]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
 [[Lose Something?]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[For The Ladies]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
===Daniel's Disappearance===
<li>[[Daniel's Missing!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Looking For Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Sleepover]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[The Cowboy]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Miss Me?]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[Finding the Cowboy - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Me For Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Storm The Castle]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 [[Mmm Slurpee - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[The Human Ransom]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
==="Those Who Fight And Run Away..."===
<li>[[Rescuing Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Drinking Problems]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Valentine's Day Massacre]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Watch This!]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Look Who I Found!!!]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Yellow Snow]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Snow Angels]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Jonas Sucks]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Men Are From Mars]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Cracked The File]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
===Who IS Jonas?===
<li>[[How Dumb Am I?]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Bree Is Crazy]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Interrogation 101]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[What The Hell?!??!]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Is He Out There?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Proving Bree Wrong]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[On The Road Again]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[School's In Session! - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Sorry Jonas]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Introducing Aunt Alex!===
<li>[[Beach Bum]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Flesh Wound]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Hand Hurts]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Aunt Alex]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Training Hard]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[On The Hot Seat]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Uncle Dan]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Lucy!?!?!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Alex Is...]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 
 
=== Tracked, Captured, and Escaped ===
<li>[[Truckstop Reunion]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Co-Ed Foosball]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Vegas, Baby!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Subjects Apprehended]] {{init|The Order}}
<li>[[Psychological Torture]] {{init|The Order}}
<li>[[Communication Terminated]] {{init|The Order}}
<li>[[Missing Days]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Losing My Religion]] {{init|Bree}}
 
 
===South Of The Border===
<li>[[Lying Bastards]] {{init|Daniel}}
 [[It's Party Time - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Spring Break Sucks]] {{init|Bree}}
<li>[[Confrontation]] {{init|Bree}}
<li>[[Hug It Out]] {{init|Jonas}}
 [[Call Me Jules]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[Apology Accepted?]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Spanglish]] {{init|Jonas}}
 [[Following the Drugs - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
 [[He's a monster, I promise!!]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[The Perfect Beach]] {{init|Bree}}
 [[First Video (I know, lame title)]] {{Init|Taylor}}
 
 
===Going Underground===
<li>[[About The Gun]] {{init|Jonas}}
 [[The Ceremony Girl?! - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[New Girl]] {{init|Bree}}
<li>[[Running For Life]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Intervention]] {{init|Jonas}}
 [[Practice Sucked :(]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Sloppy Drunk]] {{init|Bree}}
 [[Field Trip]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[Blog Girl]] {{init|Bree}}
<li>[[Quitting The Sauce]] {{init|Daniel}}
 [[I Recognize Her!]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[What Happened to Us???]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[A Solid Lead]] {{init|Bree}}
 [[Mi Escuela]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[Science Proved Nothing]] {{init|Jonas}}
 
 
=== The Search For Jules ===
<li>[[OUT OF THE BUNKER!!!]] {{init|Bree}}
 [[Hear Me Out]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[Crazy Emo Chick]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Bucking Broncos - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[No Trespassing]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[We Found Julia!!!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[It's Not Kidnapping]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Naïve Girl]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[She's Missing]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Aiding and Abetting]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 
 
===Bree's Surrender ===
<li>[[What the F*@k???]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[1500 Miles]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[I Know What Boys Like]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Let's Play Doctor]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Comfort Food]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[My Sister = Slut]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Oh, The Places You'll Go]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Sing With Me]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[CAMP PLAY]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Be Part of Something]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Opening the Box]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Entertaining Myself]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[It's A Cult]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 
 
=== Getting Bree Back ===
<li>[[Getting Her Back]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[I hAtE tHeSe PeOpLe]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Bedside Manner]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Taking Advantage of Her]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[HOLY SH%T!!!]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[The Morning After]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Mr. Park Ranger]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Everybody Does It ;)]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Like A Virgin]] {{Init|Taylor}}
 [[My Eternal Song]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Going Home]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===The Gilman Files===
<li>[[A New Lead]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[The Mad Scientist]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Sweating Bullets]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[FOLLOW YOUR HAPPINESS]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Mistress]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[In (Search of) sanity...]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Rockin' the Boat]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[My Mom's A Freak!]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[What Up Blogosphere!]] {{Init|Spencer}}
<li>[[Look Back]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Dad Died Too]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Dude Back Off]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Going Back to Cali]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[All Wet]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Kicked Out - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[I'm Here To Help]] {{Init|Spencer}}
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*[[#Before Bree|Before Bree]]
*[[#In The Beginning...|In The Beginning...]]
*[[#Bree & Daniel's Relationship|Bree & Daniel's Relationship]]
*[[#Bree's Religion|Bree's Religion]]
*[[#More Bree & Daniel's Relationship|More Bree & Daniel's Relationship]]
*[[#The Ceremony|The Ceremony]]
*[[#More Questions|More Questions]]
*[[#Things Turn Dark|Things Turn Dark]]
*[[#Bree & Daniel Escape|Bree & Daniel Escape]]
*[[#The Watchers|The Watchers]]
*[[#Bree & Daniel Get Desperate|Bree & Daniel Get Desperate]]
*[[#Going To Jonas|Going To Jonas]]
*[[#Bree Makes A Move|Bree Makes A Move]]
*[[#Bree & Daniel's Relationship Ad Nauseam|Bree & Daniel's Relationship ''Ad Nauseam'']]
*[[#Daniel's Disappearance|Daniel's Disappearance]]
*[[#"Those Who Fight And Run Away..."|"Those Who Fight And Run Away..."]]
*[[#Who IS Jonas?|Who IS Jonas?]]
*[[#Introducing Aunt Alex!|Introducing Aunt Alex!]]
*[[#Tracked, Captured, and Escaped|Tracked, Captured, and Escaped]]
*[[#South Of The Border|South Of The Border]]
*[[#Going Underground|Going Underground]]
*[[#The Search For Jules|The Search For Jules]]
*[[#Bree's Surrender|Bree's Surrender]]
*[[#Getting Bree Back|Getting Bree Back]]
*[[#The Gilman Files|The Gilman Files]]

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Talk:I'm Here To Help

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Chartreuse:

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Chartreuse:

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Chartreuse: /* Extras! */

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"Chartreuse" is a Lonelygirl15.com forum member (by the same username) who has been watching the saga since Bree started [[Proving_Science_Wrong|proving science wrong]]. She is 20, lives in Oklahoma, and is studying web design independently.

Lonelygirl15 is her first major internet obsession... and the series became that much sweeter with the addition of [[Jonas]].

==ARG Involvement==
Meli, under the name of "Lanie", became heavily involved in the [[GuillotineCalamity]] [[ARG]], working to decode clues almost around the clock. She also followed the [[Cassieiswatching]] and [[OpAphid]] [[ARG]]s, but... wasn't as good at them.

She's done some [[ARG]] videos, but won't tell you which ones.

List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3

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<ol>
===Before Bree===
[[Paytotheorderofofof vs. Dinosaur]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[YouTubers Secret Language]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Misdirected. Lost Visual in the Burn Out]] {{Init|Brother}}
 [[Sparks Are Flying]] {{Init|Brother}}
 [[3-2-1 Contact]] {{Init|Brother}}
 
 
===In The Beginning...===
<li>[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Purple Monkey (video)|Purple Monkey]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[School Work in Summer... BLECHH!!!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Danielbeast]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Grillz feat. Danielbeast, LG15, P. Monkey, and O'n.]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Parents Suck...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Daniel Responds]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Daniel Returns, and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Proving Science Wrong!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Bree & Daniel's Relationship===
<li>[[Boy Problems...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Girl Problems...]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[He Said, She Said]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Lazy Eye (and P. Monkey gets Funky!)]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Proving Science Wrong... with Lonelybeast and Danielgirl15]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Daniel The Neanderthal]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Bree's Religion===
<li>[[What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Add Poe Hinder Vilification]] {{Init|WarPylol}}
<li>[[What Bree's Dad Said...]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Me, Religion, and Daniel :(]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[I Probably Shouldn't Post This...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Mysteries of My Past... REVEALED!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[A Peace Offering (and P. Monkey Boogies)]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[To Hell With Bree's Dad (yeah!)]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[I'm Really, Really, Really Excited!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Swimming!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Bree The Cookie Monster]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[A Change In My Life]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Poor Pluto]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===More Bree & Daniel's Relationship===
<li>[[I Want to Take Bree to a Party!]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Should I Or Shouldn't I?]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[I'm Going to the Party!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[House Arrest]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[In The Park]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[What's A Date?]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My First Kiss]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Learning To Drive]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Equinox]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[How Could You?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
===The Ceremony===
<li>[[My Difficult Decision]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[You Made the Right Choice, Bree!]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[An update of sorts]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Who Is This?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[My Helper]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[DO GO TO GOD, Cassie (for my helper)]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[How My Parents Met]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Where Are They Going?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Daniel Crossed The Line]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Order of Denderah]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Everyone Hates Cassie: What a poor, lonely girl.]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[They Attack Cassie! Is Daniel Next? He Crossed the Line.]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[Zodiac of Denderah]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[What ever happened to that girl, Cassie?]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[Aleister Crowley (Video)|Aleister Crowley]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[The Ceremony Is Tomorrow :)]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Cassie is Lying, Cassie Tells Lies]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[The Ceremony]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[I Completed The Ceremony]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===More Questions===
<li>[[Following The Helper]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Daniel, Be Careful...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Where's Daniel?]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Nut Kills Man]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[Disclosure: Cassie. We Are "They"]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[Which Side Are You On? (Keep This In Mind)]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[I'm Hiding Out]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Cassie Does Not R.I.P. (Rest In Peace)]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[I Lied To Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Living In London]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[My lonesome update for mid October]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[I Listened To Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Hi Gemma!]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Things Turn Dark===
<li>[[It's Not Your Decision]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[I Talked To My Parents]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[Proving Longitude Wrong]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[URGENT: For My Helper!]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Thanks Gemma...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[They Disappeared...]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[What Makes Us Sad?]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Life's Not Fair]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Bree & Daniel Escape===
<li>[[Still At Daniel's]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Where Are My Parents?]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[They Are Still Everywhere]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Horrid Flatmates]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[What I Found at Topanga Canyon - NBR 2]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[On The Run]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Learning Egyptian]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[What's in the Box/Bree & Daniel Update - NBR 3]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Motel Pool]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[They Are Watching]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Don't Trust The Authorities]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Exploring The Motel]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===The Watchers===
<li>[[Someone's Following You]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Man In The Suit]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Breakfast In Bed]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[My Name Is Jonas]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[A Watcher]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Fleeing The Watcher]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Watchers Everywhere]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Survival Skills]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Silent Treatment]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Bored At Home]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[An Awkward Silence]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Date With P. Monkey]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Happy Thanksgiving]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Thanksgiving]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[My Day at the Movies - NBR 5]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
 [[Adventures in Babysitting]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[Mysteries of My Past... Revealed: My Time in Suburbia]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
 
 
===Bree & Daniel Get Desperate===
<li>[[Ransacked!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Scared To Go Home]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Trust Issues]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Jonas?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Daniel Is Right]] {{Init|Gemma}}
<li>[[Homeless]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Knock 'Em Down]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Warwalking]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Anti-Cribs]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Bad Decisions]] {{Init|Gemma}}
 [[Home Alone]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[The Test]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Where Is Jonas?]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
 
 
===Going To Jonas===
<li>[[Your Decision]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Back Home]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Gemma? (Part I)]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
 [[Gemma? (Part II)]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Tough Cookie]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Gemma, Who Are You?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Cheer Me Up]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Back At Bree's]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Gemma? (Part III)]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
 [[Investigating Gemma - NBR 7]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Bree Phone Home]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Undisclosed Location]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Skateboarding]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Breaking And Entering]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Mystery Movies]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Happy Holidays LG15 - NBR 8]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Christmas Surprise]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
===Bree Makes A Move===
<li>[[Bree's Gone]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 [[Gemma (Part IV)]] {{Init|Tachyon}}
<li>[[Roadtrip]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[The Unthinkable Happened]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Gemma (Part V)]] {{Init|Brother}}
<li>[[Bree's Dad Is Dead]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[My Dad Said...]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[45 Seconds]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Purple Monkey Returns]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Foosball]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[The Last Hours of Bree's Dad's Life - NBR 9]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Hiding In The Bathroom]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Bree & Daniel's Relationship ''Ad Nauseam''===
<li>[[Bree And I Hooked Up]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[The Ends Justify The Means]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[Kicked Out]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Daniel’s A Liar]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Truth Or Dare]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Hungover]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Investigating Pins and Pints]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Time To Grow Up]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Foosball Battle]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Naming Bree's Dad]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
 [[Lose Something?]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
<li>[[For The Ladies]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
===Daniel's Disappearance===
<li>[[Daniel's Missing!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Looking For Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Sleepover]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[The Cowboy]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Miss Me?]] {{Init|OpAphid}}
 [[Finding the Cowboy - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Me For Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Storm The Castle]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 [[Mmm Slurpee - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[The Human Ransom]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
==="Those Who Fight And Run Away..."===
<li>[[Rescuing Daniel]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Drinking Problems]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Valentine's Day Massacre]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Watch This!]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[Look Who I Found!!!]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Yellow Snow]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Snow Angels]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Jonas Sucks]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Men Are From Mars]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Cracked The File]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 
 
===Who IS Jonas?===
<li>[[How Dumb Am I?]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Bree Is Crazy]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Interrogation 101]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[What The Hell?!??!]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Is He Out There?]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Proving Bree Wrong]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[On The Road Again]] {{Init|Daniel}}
 [[School's In Session! - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Sorry Jonas]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===Introducing Aunt Alex!===
<li>[[Beach Bum]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Flesh Wound]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Hand Hurts]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Aunt Alex]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Training Hard]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[On The Hot Seat]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Uncle Dan]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Lucy!?!?!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Alex Is...]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 
 
=== Tracked, Captured, and Escaped ===
<li>[[Truckstop Reunion]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Co-Ed Foosball]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Vegas, Baby!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Subjects Apprehended]] {{init|The Order}}
<li>[[Psychological Torture]] {{init|The Order}}
<li>[[Communication Terminated]] {{init|The Order}}
<li>[[Missing Days]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Losing My Religion]] {{init|Bree}}
 
 
===South Of The Border===
<li>[[Lying Bastards]] {{init|Daniel}}
 [[It's Party Time - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Spring Break Sucks]] {{init|Bree}}
<li>[[Confrontation]] {{init|Bree}}
<li>[[Hug It Out]] {{init|Jonas}}
 [[Call Me Jules]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[Apology Accepted?]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Spanglish]] {{init|Jonas}}
 [[Following the Drugs - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
 [[He's a monster, I promise!!]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[The Perfect Beach]] {{init|Bree}}
 [[First Video (I know, lame title)]] {{Init|Taylor}}
 
 
===Going Underground===
<li>[[About The Gun]] {{init|Jonas}}
 [[The Ceremony Girl?! - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[New Girl]] {{init|Bree}}
<li>[[Running For Life]] {{init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Intervention]] {{init|Jonas}}
 [[Practice Sucked :(]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Sloppy Drunk]] {{init|Bree}}
 [[Field Trip]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[Blog Girl]] {{init|Bree}}
<li>[[Quitting The Sauce]] {{init|Daniel}}
 [[I Recognize Her!]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[What Happened to Us???]] {{init|Daniel}}
<li>[[A Solid Lead]] {{init|Bree}}
 [[Mi Escuela]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[Science Proved Nothing]] {{init|Jonas}}
 
 
=== The Search For Jules ===
<li>[[OUT OF THE BUNKER!!!]] {{init|Bree}}
 [[Hear Me Out]] {{Init|Jules}}
<li>[[Crazy Emo Chick]] {{Init|Bree}}
 [[Bucking Broncos - NBR Investigates]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[No Trespassing]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[We Found Julia!!!]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[It's Not Kidnapping]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Naïve Girl]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[She's Missing]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Aiding and Abetting]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 
 
===Bree's Surrender ===
<li>[[What the F*@k???]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[1500 Miles]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[I Know What Boys Like]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Let's Play Doctor]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[Comfort Food]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[My Sister = Slut]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[Oh, The Places You'll Go]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Sing With Me]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[CAMP PLAY]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Be Part of Something]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Opening the Box]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Entertaining Myself]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[It's A Cult]] {{Init|Jonas}}
 
 
=== Getting Bree Back ===
<li>[[Getting Her Back]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[I hAtE tHeSe PeOpLe]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[Bedside Manner]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Taking Advantage of Her]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[HOLY SH%T!!!]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[The Morning After]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Mr. Park Ranger]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Everybody Does It ;)]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Like A Virgin]] {{Init|Taylor}}
 [[My Eternal Song]] {{Init|Nikki Bower}}
<li>[[Going Home]] {{Init|Bree}}
 
 
===In Search Of The Gilmans===
<li>[[A New Lead]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[The Mad Scientist]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Sweating Bullets]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[FOLLOW YOUR HAPPINESS]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[The Mistress]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[In (Search of) sanity...]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Rockin' the Boat]] {{Init|Daniel}}
<li>[[My Mom's A Freak!]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[What Up Blogosphere!]] {{Init|Spencer}}
<li>[[Look Back]] {{Init|Bree}}
<li>[[My Dad Died Too]] {{Init|Jonas}}
<li>[[Dude Back Off]] {{Init|Sarah}}
<li>[[Going Back to Cali]] {{Init|Taylor}}
<li>[[All Wet]] {{Init|Daniel}}
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*[[#Before Bree|Before Bree]]
*[[#In The Beginning...|In The Beginning...]]
*[[#Bree & Daniel's Relationship|Bree & Daniel's Relationship]]
*[[#Bree's Religion|Bree's Religion]]
*[[#More Bree & Daniel's Relationship|More Bree & Daniel's Relationship]]
*[[#The Ceremony|The Ceremony]]
*[[#More Questions|More Questions]]
*[[#Things Turn Dark|Things Turn Dark]]
*[[#Bree & Daniel Escape|Bree & Daniel Escape]]
*[[#The Watchers|The Watchers]]
*[[#Bree & Daniel Get Desperate|Bree & Daniel Get Desperate]]
*[[#Going To Jonas|Going To Jonas]]
*[[#Bree Makes A Move|Bree Makes A Move]]
*[[#Bree & Daniel's Relationship Ad Nauseam|Bree & Daniel's Relationship ''Ad Nauseam'']]
*[[#Daniel's Disappearance|Daniel's Disappearance]]
*[[#"Those Who Fight And Run Away..."|"Those Who Fight And Run Away..."]]
*[[#Who IS Jonas?|Who IS Jonas?]]
*[[#Introducing Aunt Alex!|Introducing Aunt Alex!]]
*[[#Tracked, Captured, and Escaped|Tracked, Captured, and Escaped]]
*[[#South Of The Border|South Of The Border]]
*[[#Going Underground|Going Underground]]
*[[#The Search For Jules|The Search For Jules]]
*[[#Bree's Surrender|Bree's Surrender]]
*[[#Getting Bree Back|Getting Bree Back]]
*[[#In Search Of The Gilmans|In Search Of The Gilmans]]

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Talk:All Wet

2007-07-07T06:42:20Z

Chartreuse:

Looks like there's some trouble in paradise? Hmm? --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:42, 7 July 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Going Back to Cali

2007-07-06T03:40:23Z

Chartreuse: /* The "Look Back" Video Clues? */

Yes! Whats this? 5 or something videos in a row? --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 22:11, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

== The "Look Back" Video Clues? ==
Does it bug anyone else that tomorrow is Friday, and nobody's said ANYTHING about the "Friday Early Low Tide Yacht Club Parents Slip" jumbled phrase that was the last Bree video? I haven't dropped by the forum in a while (<3Pedia) to see if anyone's said anything to Taylor or anyone, but... I dunno, it felt like we could have gone somewhere with this, and today we got... mostly a filler video. Darn it! I was looking for an intriguing Friday video at some boat place, but no such luck. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:40, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

Talk:What Up Blogosphere!

2007-07-05T00:10:31Z

Chartreuse:

Ong. Really really really like Spence. He's so funny! XD --[[User:Demented Llama|DL]]

ya notice he mixes things up? "first" "b" "third" "d" --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
:LG15 said it might be a clue. Like b3d is a compound for some long thing that I'm too blonde to know anything about. XP --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 17:17, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
:That was very Home Alone-y, IMO and very funny, messing up the "list" like that! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:21, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
::AAWWWW. He's adorkable. And he's actually more realistic... kind of like, wtf guys, leave me alone. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:33, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

::: Where was this uploaded to?
::::What do you mean?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::This was uploaded to Spencer's youtube account... la_labrat. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 19:10, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

== I think we should vote. ==

::And have Spencer voted as the most edible of all the LG15 cast. I swear I've seen many many comments by people that they could just "eat him." --[[user:EcholaliaRicochet|EcholaliaRicochet]]

== hmm ==

you'd think a big nerd like spencer would know how to run a webcam. but no. personaly, i was very annoyed with him durring the first half of the video. yeah the first few seconds of his video were already out of character and somehow it shows through but then in the second half he really redeemed himself as "king nerd" of the lg15 world. pretty rad. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 30
:just because he's into science doesn't mean he's into videos.

==Faction?==
I wonder what faction the creators will categorize him as, if at all.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

Talk:Jonas Fan Club

2007-07-04T23:57:18Z

Chartreuse:

So what would you like to see on the Fan Club site? I'm open to suggestions for leadership titles, too. With so few in the club to date, I think we could easily get a title for everyone. Thoughts? Anyone? {{unsigned|Sack36}}

:How do I join? *bats eyes* --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:57, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

Template:Userbox CrushSpencer

2007-07-04T23:54:03Z

Chartreuse: Changed bg color to match his shirt... it was bugging me.

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Talk:Spencer

2007-06-30T06:36:00Z

Chartreuse: /* LOLOMGWTF Is Spencer on the REAL Neutrogena website?! */

==MySpace==
I think it's safe to assume that the [[MySpace]] account {{myspace|la_labrat}} is official for Spencer, since [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=419506&highlight=#419506 Daniel told us all to message him]. I can't imagine the C's telling us all to bombard some fan-kid. Unless anyone objects, I'll go ahead and add the info from the MySpace to his character page. We can always remove it if we find out later that it's not offical... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 24 June 2007 (CDT)
:I just added it, but since we don't know much else about this kid, I decided not to put in a Person box just yet.--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:55, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

== LOLOMGWTF Is Spencer on the REAL Neutrogena website?! ==

OMGOMGOMG! My mind is going crazy- Spencer is the ACTUAL "employee of the month" at the ACTUAL Neutrogena website with ''''''no qualifications that it's with a TV show!'''''' (other than a link to LG15.com, very slyly integrated) Is this real? Maybe a product-placement deal they worked with Neutrogena? Anyone who understands why I see this as totally nuts, blurring the lines between TV and the real world, please reply with some sort of explanation!!!
[http://www.neutrogena.com/spencer.asp] (notice all the NORMAL Neutrogena stuff links there, too!)
[http://lg15today.blogspot.com/2007/06/spencer-as-neutrogena-employee-of-month.html]
[http://lg15today.blogspot.com/2007/06/neutrogena-story.html]
--[[User:DoubleG|DoubleG]] 00:15, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
: Hey, hey, calm down! If you read the [[Neutrogena]] page, it'll tell you that yes, this is a deal between LG15 and Neutrogena. It is cool though! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:36, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:What Up Blogosphere!

2007-06-30T06:33:51Z

Chartreuse:

Ong. Really really really like Spence. He's so funny! XD -DL

ya notice he mixes things up? "first" "b" "third" "d" --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
:That was very Home Alone-y, IMO and very funny, messing up the "list" like that! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:21, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
::AAWWWW. He's adorkable. And he's actually more realistic... kind of like, wtf guys, leave me alone. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:33, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:My Mom's A Freak!

2007-06-29T04:29:17Z

Chartreuse: /* Déjà Vu */

Creepy trolls. Reminds me of Mimi from The Drew Carey show. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 21:44, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

I'm so glad that I wasn't the only one..lol. --[[User:Bree_is_awesome|madison]]

===Transcript===

Can someone else so this?, because i thought i could, but i can't! --[[User:Bree_is_awesome|madison]]

== Déjà Vu ==

Totaly. That was the first thing I thought of in the first 5 seconds of the video. [[User:70.113.85.225|70.113.85.225]] 23:10, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
:I know, I totally lost it when she turned and threw a stuffed animal at the sleeping guy. I mean, seriously. I was thinking, "man, we've come so far... I mean, now we've got the adventures of New Character 2 and New Character 4 trying to contact New Character 6..." --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:20, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
::Whoa. Just a little confusing. DX Maybe there will be a PSW ;P --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 23:24, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
::: [[Image:Fingernails.jpg|180px]] [[Image:0221-JonasLookingAtBall.jpg|180px]]
::: Seriously. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:29, 28 June 2007 (CDT)