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Talk:We Have A Plan

2007-07-18T03:18:37Z

Falcovolt: /* Lightsaber - replica? */

:rofl: i love this dork!! reminds me of the dude Mo Rocca (when he used to be on animal planet)... --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
* *rolls eyes* God....GEEK! lmao He is funny. -BA

I think he's a riot. Does anyone else think he looks a bit like Jason Mraz?-EmiB

==Lightsaber - replica?==
Several people in the revision history claim the lightsaber was a replica rather than a special effect, purely because they say so. 
Let's look into this:
#When watched in slow motion, from 2:00 to 2:01, when the lightsaber is held horizontally across the screen, one can seemingly see the glow overlay move independently from the handle.
#Same in 2:02, when Spencer holds it vertically close the upper edge of the frame.
#In 2:04, there is a a moment where the glow seems to "jump" if you watch it frame by frame.
#In Order to be white in the middle, the saber would have to emit a considerable amount of light - at least as much as a fluorescent lamp; however, except for some outer glow around the blade, there is no additional light visible on Spencer or any other object in the room. Check out the lightsabers in these images from Google: [[Image:Real lightsabers.jpg|500px]] Now where is the same glow on ''anything'' in Spencer's lab or on himself?
#At 2:06, Spencer puts on his glasses; he lightly holds the saber in his right hand, even widely opening it up when taking the hand down. If the saber has a physical blade, why does it seem to have no weight at all?
#In the same moment, we can clearly see the reflection of his hand going down in the glasses - yet not the reflection of a giant, glowing blade.
#At 2:04/2:05, when Spencer does a wide sweep, his hands move above his desk on the left, producing a shadow on it - yet, at 2:01, when the lightsaber is above the exact same location, there is no light-change on the desk at all - neither more light, from a glowing blade, nor less light from a shadow.
#In addition, one can clearly see that every object on the desk more or less reflects on it, due to the desk being coated or polished. Yet, no matter how often Spencer sweeps the lightsaber above the desk, there is never, ever a reflection of it.

So, I know I wasn't there and can't "prove" this. But if yet another fanboy wants to challenge all probability, could he please provide a similar list of things speaking ''for'' the idea it was a replica? 'cause I kinda can't understand how a sane man can seriously assume this was anything but a special effect, and I'm really interested in hearing what non-light-emitting-lightbulbs are used in Star Wars merchandise...
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:12, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Renegade, I fully agree with you. I've been a avid collector of these MR Lightsabers ever since they have been put on the market. From what I see, Spencer is using this lighstaber... 
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v249/falcovolt/?action=view&current=Hasbro_Anakin_Skwalker_Lightsaber_8.jpg
The blade is weightless because... it's hallow plastic. Also, none of the MR sabers have that "light blue" color that Spencer has. Which only is more proof that they used a process called "Rotoscoping" Also here is what many of the sabers look like from my personal collection 
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v249/falcovolt/Props/?action=view&current=eef06768.jpg
I think we can safely deem it isn't a MR lightsaber
:~ [[User:Falcovolt|Falcovolt]] ([[User talk:Falcovolt|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Falcovolt|contribs]]) 11:19 PM, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

==It is a genuine handcrafted jedi lightsaber==
# No geek would be caught with less (is truely necessary I will also compile a list of why Spencer is a geek (and a dweeb, dork, and a nerd) but I think we can atleast agree there)
# The glow was clearly caught within the blade by focusing crystals commonly found within lightsabers, thus resulting in lack of a glow
# A lightsaber would not cause a shadow either
# A lightsaber blade has no weight, and those trained in its use can balance the forces within it to cancel out even the weight of the handle, thus resulting in it appearing as though Spencer is holding a handle with a special effect
# Of course the lightsaber produces a lot of light to be white in the middle, it is also real, see number 2: focusing crystals
# Lightsabers do not reflect. Look at Vader's shiny helmet in Star Wars, the only time you see the effects of a lightsaber in it is when the blade is incredibly close to the helmet.
# The camara clearly wasnt good enough to handle the difficulties in filming a lightsaber, hence the appearence of independant movement

==Gosh==
Lonelycrackers are some of the dorkiest people I know! A debate on whether or not it's a real light saber, etc... Srsly guys XD You crack me up. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 15:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Talk:We Have A Plan

2007-07-18T03:16:31Z

Falcovolt: /* Lightsaber - replica? */

:rofl: i love this dork!! reminds me of the dude Mo Rocca (when he used to be on animal planet)... --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
* *rolls eyes* God....GEEK! lmao He is funny. -BA

I think he's a riot. Does anyone else think he looks a bit like Jason Mraz?-EmiB

==Lightsaber - replica?==
Several people in the revision history claim the lightsaber was a replica rather than a special effect, purely because they say so. 
Let's look into this:
#When watched in slow motion, from 2:00 to 2:01, when the lightsaber is held horizontally across the screen, one can seemingly see the glow overlay move independently from the handle.
#Same in 2:02, when Spencer holds it vertically close the upper edge of the frame.
#In 2:04, there is a a moment where the glow seems to "jump" if you watch it frame by frame.
#In Order to be white in the middle, the saber would have to emit a considerable amount of light - at least as much as a fluorescent lamp; however, except for some outer glow around the blade, there is no additional light visible on Spencer or any other object in the room. Check out the lightsabers in these images from Google: [[Image:Real lightsabers.jpg|500px]] Now where is the same glow on ''anything'' in Spencer's lab or on himself?
#At 2:06, Spencer puts on his glasses; he lightly holds the saber in his right hand, even widely opening it up when taking the hand down. If the saber has a physical blade, why does it seem to have no weight at all?
#In the same moment, we can clearly see the reflection of his hand going down in the glasses - yet not the reflection of a giant, glowing blade.
#At 2:04/2:05, when Spencer does a wide sweep, his hands move above his desk on the left, producing a shadow on it - yet, at 2:01, when the lightsaber is above the exact same location, there is no light-change on the desk at all - neither more light, from a glowing blade, nor less light from a shadow.
#In addition, one can clearly see that every object on the desk more or less reflects on it, due to the desk being coated or polished. Yet, no matter how often Spencer sweeps the lightsaber above the desk, there is never, ever a reflection of it.

So, I know I wasn't there and can't "prove" this. But if yet another fanboy wants to challenge all probability, could he please provide a similar list of things speaking ''for'' the idea it was a replica? 'cause I kinda can't understand how a sane man can seriously assume this was anything but a special effect, and I'm really interested in hearing what non-light-emitting-lightbulbs are used in Star Wars merchandise...
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:12, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Renegade, I fully agree with you. I've been a avid collector of these MR Lightsabers ever since they have been put on the market. From what I see, Spencer is using this lighstaber... 
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v249/falcovolt/?action=view&current=Hasbro_Anakin_Skwalker_Lightsaber_8.jpg
The blade is weightless because... it's hallow plastic. Also, none of the MR sabers have that "light blue" color that Spencer has. Which only is more proof that they used a process called "Rotoscoping" Also here is what many of the sabers look like from my personal collection 
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v249/falcovolt/Props/?action=view&current=eef06768.jpg
I think we can safely deem it isn't a MR lightsaber
:~ [[User:Falcovolt|Falcovolt]]

==It is a genuine handcrafted jedi lightsaber==
# No geek would be caught with less (is truely necessary I will also compile a list of why Spencer is a geek (and a dweeb, dork, and a nerd) but I think we can atleast agree there)
# The glow was clearly caught within the blade by focusing crystals commonly found within lightsabers, thus resulting in lack of a glow
# A lightsaber would not cause a shadow either
# A lightsaber blade has no weight, and those trained in its use can balance the forces within it to cancel out even the weight of the handle, thus resulting in it appearing as though Spencer is holding a handle with a special effect
# Of course the lightsaber produces a lot of light to be white in the middle, it is also real, see number 2: focusing crystals
# Lightsabers do not reflect. Look at Vader's shiny helmet in Star Wars, the only time you see the effects of a lightsaber in it is when the blade is incredibly close to the helmet.
# The camara clearly wasnt good enough to handle the difficulties in filming a lightsaber, hence the appearence of independant movement

==Gosh==
Lonelycrackers are some of the dorkiest people I know! A debate on whether or not it's a real light saber, etc... Srsly guys XD You crack me up. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 15:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

We Have A Plan

2007-07-17T07:38:38Z

Falcovolt: /* Notes */ They did NOT use a MR lightsaber for this. If they did, there would be a glow in the backround on Spencers shirt, and the toy is too dull (MR uses metal and it would be glossy)

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'''We Have A Plan''' is the two hundred thirty-third video in the lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].

==Transcript==
'''Spencer:''' Hey, I would normally never do this at work, but I have all these thoughts running through my head and I just saw my boss go on his lunch break. I mean, what's happened in the past week alone! [[Daniel]] and [[Sarah]] dropped a [[All Wet|letter]] from my [[Isaac Gilman|dad]] into some beach water, smearing a part of that letter which reveals a formula to save [[Bree]]. I met [[Jonas]], [[Taylor]], [[Sarah]], and [[Daniel]] at my [[Neutrogena office|office]], on my way [[Hope He's Not Mad|to lunch]]. Nice surprise guys, almost got fired. Just kidding. Then, I get involved in this whole thing by [[The Bree Solution|trying to figure out this letter]] with [[Taylor]], my new protégé, little sister, overall pal of mine. We bonded over [[product placement#Triscuit_Crackers|cheese and crackers]]. Just like old times... Anyway, I then tell her that just because Bree is Trait: Negative, that has nothing to do with the [[purity bond]]. That's just some [[Hymn of One]] [[four-letter words|B.S.]] used to control the minds of these young girls. Then we ask the fans to help us decipher the letter and, (''claps hands'') ta-da! We discover that we need to create a serum using the blood from one of these girls. Daniel goes off on his woodward [[Deep Throat]] meeting, and we discover that Bree is under lock-and-key because there is going to be a Hymn of One [[the Ceremony (ritual)|Ceremony]] in one month! One month... one month! You know what that means, don't you? It means that we have a mission, and we choose to accept it!

(''The words "Mission Accepted" appear on screen, which are covered by the words "Top Secret" in red.'')

'''Spencer:''' Our mission is top secret, so all I can reveal to you is that we have a [[TCC|mole]] from the inside. Which means we ''know'' where to get these blood samples to save Bree. God, I can't believe I'm doing this. I feel like... I feel like Edward Bond in [http://www.amazon.com/Dark-World-Henry-Kuttner/dp/B000IVVLTK Dark World], you know? I've just penetrated an alternate world, a semi-factual world very similar to my own. I wonder if I'll meet a doppelgänger Spencer. Holy sh...

(''Musical montage in which Spencer plays with a {{wikipedia|lightsaber}}.'')

'''Spencer:''' (''To a person off camera.'') I'm just recording some notes for my uh, project. (''Nods'')

(''Musical montage in which Spencer performs random karate moves and plays with a toy dinosaur.'')

==Notes==
*The lightsaber-effect probably marks the first use of visible high-level special effects in the series.
*This is the second time Spencer has joked about being fired, the first being in [[What Up Blogosphere!]]
*Spencer's referral to Taylor as his "little sister" seems to negate any implications that he had felt [[Relationships#Taylor_and_Spencer|romantic feelings]] for her.
* Spencer's "Woodward-Deep Throat" comment is a reference to ''Washington Post'' reporter Bob Woodward, who met with the real Deep Throat, breaking [[pop culture references#Other References|the Watergate scandal]]. Woodward was played by Robert Redford in the Oscar-winning 1976 film, ''All The President's Men'', which is listed as one of [[Nikki Bower]]'s favorite films on her profile pages.
*Spencer's reference to the inside informant (or "mole") is a reference to the Mysterious Reporter, who is suspected as being the one coding the Hymn of One's video entries with secret messages.