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Talk:Portal:lonelygirl15

2008-04-26T03:17:32Z

Juuleeya: /* Portal Images */

== New Jonas Picture? ==
Crazy! I love it! I provided an option for a new photo for Jonas on the main page discussion, but it seems like it would be more useful on this page now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] Reposted from July 11]]

:Actually, the consensus from before was a yes, and I think he looks darn good there too, so um, if no one objects by say, tommorow, why don't I change the pic? :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
::I'm a fan of the latest pic of Jonas (now that its clearer), but I won't really mind if it was changed. I do wonder though -- is there the chance we could that the names of the characters can be placed to the left of their respective picture, with the lettering going up-to-down?? Then maybe the pics won't look so broken up . . . Anyways, great job to everyone who helped with the remodeling!--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Really Pheon?? That was actually one of my favorite parts of the design! I felt like each character had their own little "pedistol" if you will. Kind of said, "look at me. I am important." Haha, I don't know, I guess we could see what other people think, but like I said, this is one of my favorite parts of the design atm! :o --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

[EDIT] I did some mockups to see how it would look, and ugh, it came out bad. I mean, I can try to redo them if you want (I didn't save), but meh. Like I said.. character... pedastol... yay! xP. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:Well, I'm not an expert of wiki-codes, so if you said the attempt turned out bad, then it probably did. Eh, it's sorta growing on me . . . :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:46, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I like this pic, but it doesn't match well with the others. I would be in favor of updating the other pics with ones that look better with this pic, but until then I think we should leave the one thats up there now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I edited the Portal with this pic and previewed it and I think it looks great with the others. We should change it! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

== Spencer ==

If spencer is on the portal for main characters, then shouldn't he be on the character template as a main character..--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]]([[User talk:Houdini|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Houdini|contribs]])
:However, isn't he only going to be a main character for two months?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
I agree. If he's only here for two months, we can always remove him. I say, once a character has posted a blog that ends up on the main LG15 site, it is fair to consider them a "main blogging character". I'd also move him up on the [[Characters]] page as well. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:52, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Screenshots? ==
Seriously, where are they? The last couple of videos just straight up don't have them, and they don't seem to be on the KMPortal either. Is this just lack of time, or are we changing that idea around? If it's lack of time, I'll do it myself... I just wanted to make sure. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:53, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
:I thought the same thing too, until I realized that something's up with downloading pics. If you see some of the latest vids like [[Mission Possible]] & [[Proceed with Caution]] pictures are downloaded, but the only thing that shows up is, '' 'Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg' ''. Anyone know how to fix this?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:24, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, that thing is pretty frustrating. :/ --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:Well, it's fixed now! Big thanks whoever did it!! --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== Missions ==

This is gonna sound egotistical or whatever that is but...do you think we should put the missions page on this portal. I know me and silver made it, but it is a big part of the series. Well everyone decides.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:12, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

== OpAphid ==

OpAphid is no longer part of lg, by direction of [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] we are to post OpAphid videos in maddison's section only. Please stop posting it here. TY --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 00:06, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

== Someone!!! ==

Someone
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me
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up!?

== Wierd..... ==

Who
else
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acsees
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Brees
YouTube
account?

== Outdating ==

Is there anyway we can maybe move Bree on the main page to a heading saying, "Deceased" or something? She's not going to be posting anymore videos, sadly... and I think here pretty soon we're going to need to remove or move Spencer... and honestly, maybe even add Emma. I know right now we're in a transition, but Bree IS something that can be taken care of. Just a suggestion. [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)Greenie

:I don't think a "deceased" category is necessary. Those who do watch the series know Bree is dead, and those who newly come to it don't want to be spoiled right on the portal. As for removing/adding people, so far, Spencer is credited with 22 appearances, while Emma is credited with 3 - while I agree with you that Spencer should be removed if he doesn't take part in the series anymore, I think we should at least wait with the switch until Emma has made at least something like 10 appearances - just to be sure she's not just some kind of guest character that's gonna be dropped the day after tomorrow.
:i think anybody who has used the internet in the past two months knows that bree is dead. there is no need to worry about spoiling anything. haha... - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]

:And in the end, don't forget [http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-spencergilman there is a petition running] to bring Spencer back - who knows, maybe the Creators listen for once.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:30, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I was thinking perhaps we should give Bree a "Deceased" heading of some form too, but I like your reasoning, Renegade. We don't want to spoil fans if we can help it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Renegade, I agree about the spoilers.... what about a non-active category or something? Bree still deserves to be main page... but she's just... not here anymore. Also, I was thinking that Emma needs to wait until she either does her own blog episode, or has been around for awhile. I'm going to the petition to sign it, because I really like Spencer... -Greenie [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:10, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
What if you simply made her picture gray instead of calling her deceased. Then she'll remain part of the cast picture, but is simply set apart. It also won't spoil anything. It may trigger that she is somehow different, but it won't make people automatically assume she's dead. Just a thought. '''-- Evergreen -- Sept. 15, '07 11:28 AM EST'''
:I agree that there should be something done differently, like making her picture grey. I noticed the update on the main page. Now what about Emma? Also, Taylor hasn't been posting much. And now it seems Mallory has made a blog. I'd like to see if she makes any more blogs, and if she gets more involved in the fight against the Order. I think there might be a lot of updating to do soon, but I really feel Emma might be approaching main page, honestly. -Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 13:23, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I find the picture order a little strange on the main page. I see that it's "alphabetical", but... I dunno. I think a Jonas-Daniel-Emma-Sarah or Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma order would make more sense, seeing as Jonas and Daniel seemed to have taken over as the co-main-main characters of the show. Also for Bree's picture, is there any way to make the picture black white and shades of gray? I dunno, just a thought. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:38, 26 September 2007 (EST)

:I also think the portal page are getting a bit outdated - 6 months has made a lot of difference in all the main character's appearance, no? And I agree that it might be time to add Emma to the portal page. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
::Seeing as Emma is now Missing/kidnapped, I'd hold off on her for a bit . . . and are we going to be seeing Taylor in a vid soon? I'm getting worried she may not come back! And as for pics, we may need to update them, but not any recent picture will do (it's going to take a lot to beat the Daniel one :P )--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree wholeheartedly that "Daniel in sombrero" is nearly impossible to beat! But I do think he looks great in this one: [[Image:LG291Daniel cropped.jpg|90px]] Though it is a WHOLE different Daniel... which was really kinda my point, that they've changed a lot, both in appearance and in their heads. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 04:55, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

== New Series Portal Images ==

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]] 
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waste my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 4:05 PM}}
::Honestly, this SHOULD be on the Main Page Discussion, since that's where this pic'll end up. But anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Oh, crap. I didn't even realize I put this here, ooops. Haha. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:22 PM}}

== Emma ==

Sorry, I recently added Emma in the character section. I didn't think about having it approved...Der >.< I was gonna to, but I didn't so....My fault.

Erm, so....should we add Emma? I mean, she is the next trait positive girl.... --[[User:free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 22:206, 27 September 2007

== New Bree Portal Image ==
I know, I'm supposed to post something on the talk page. My bad. But the whole gray box thing just didn't sit quite right with me. The edits can be reversed if necessary, but I just think the graying of the picture might look better (Anyone who watches Big Brother knows what I'm talking about. In the house there is a wall with pictures of all the players. When a player is evicted, their picture turns black and white). --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:10, 28 September 2007 (EST)
:I think the idea was that she would get both a black/white image AND a gray box... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:25, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
Okay, I'm going to be bold and suggest that Gemma and Spencer (who were once main characters in their own right) to be re-added to the front page under Bree's Format (it would look something like [[User:FH14/Sandbox|this]]. What does Everyone think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 00:34, 30 September 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, I saw that, but I think I have to disagree. There are plenty of other formerly main characters who could go up there, and all you really do is open up a can of worms. Like why not Jules? Or Aunt Alex? Op/Tach/Bro? I could go on... I mean, I think Bree should still be up there because she IS lonelygirl15, but other than that, people can find the characters through the character pages. That's how I see it at least. What do other people think? (Oh and while I'm thinking of it, how do people feel about the shade of grey used for Bree's box right now? Too light? Too dark? Just right? Let me know! Thanks!) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:45, 29 September 2007 (CDT)
:: What if the box was a little bit more of a bluish gray? --[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
I think if Bree's staying, Gemma and Spencer should too. They're both main characters. Just because a main character dies halfway through a movie doesn't mean they shouldn't be at the top of the credits. If the part they HAD was huge, it shouldn't make a difference.
:::Exactly. Also, Zoey, I see your point about Jules, Alex, Tach/Bro/Op, etc. All Were supporting Characters more than anything. They were either only present for a few weeks, pop up about once a month, etc. (The only one who would have a strong case for a main character is Alex, but it's still stretching it a bit.) Gemma and Spencer posted several blogs and had a large impact and interaction with the plot during their times, and deserve credit. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:04, 2 October 2007 (EST)

::::#The series is frickin' ''named'' after Bree.
::::#250 episodes are a little more than Gemma's few side-vids or Spencer's half a dozen appearances.
::::It's just a major difference if you take a vanished supporting off the portal, or the namesake and series lead for 250 episodes.
::::Not to mention that greying out is already way too spoilertastic for my taste. Taking her off would majorly spoil newcomers.
::::There is a ''reason'' people are pissed about Bree's death - just like a lonelygirl15 ''series'' doesn't work without a lonelygirl15, a ''portal'' doesn't, either. You can't have a portal to Bree's series without her.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:10, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::Keep Bree until/unless the C's give us a new cast photo. It wouldn't be unusual for a new cast photo to come out each season for a TV show, and when it does, that's what you use. Old cast pics would then get relegated elsewhere. I'm no rush to excise bree from the portal. You know, Bree's eyes used to appear on EVERYP AGE of the original lonelygirl15.com, it was quite freaky. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 15:38, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::::::For the record, we didn't even get a cast photo when we specifically and directly asked for one, multiple times, even after Amanda promised one.
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:42, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::::: Which basically means Bree will on the page forever, until we find a new cast photo pop up in some magazine somewhere. Maybe if someone with graphics skills worked up a cartoon version of the current cast to use in the meantime, it might come sooner . :-) --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:15, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
I'm not quite understanding the whole "spoliers" reasoning. There's a message at the top of the Main Page that states that: ''All pages on this encyclopedia are written from an all-knowing point of view. If you have not seen all episodes of a series yet, and don't want to see SPOILERS, do not read further''. I know how unbelieveably MAJOR Bree was. But Gemma and Spencer were on the Portal Page at one point to. Am I suggesting Gemma and Spencer fall under the same category of MAIN MAIN Character as Bree does. No. That honor belongs to only her, Daniel, and Jonas (and if the character continues at the pace she has: Sarah). But Keep in Mind that Gemma and Spencer had just as much imput and impact on the Story during their time as Bree did throughout the entire first Season. (BTW, I never suggested that Bree's picture be taken down in any way, shape, or form. I apologize if I came across that way.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:42, 2 October 2007 (EST)

:There's a big difference between ''the text'' giving away information you don't want to know, and ''the page itself''. If you want to, you can consciously not read the text of a page - but you can't not look at the page itself. If somebody just wanted to click through to [[Product placement]], for example, he can do so without being spoiled by the episode descriptions simply by not reading them - but the fact that Bree is grey and not in the first position (or gone as a whole) is pretty frickin' obvious, and you can't ignore it - no matter if you've just seen My Fatal Mistake or First Blog.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:14, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree with you, but Bree needs to be differentiated somehow, as she is a former character of the show. (BTW, her death has been advertised all over the internet, 99% of internet users probably know she's dead anyway; though I do agree the other 1% deserves to be able to find it out by watching the episode where she dies and not from here.) My best suggestion would be this - Make a more obvious and noticeable spoiler tag. Or maybe this: On a website for a book series I like, there are certain portions of the site that can only be accessed if you answer to the following statement: ''The following pages contain spoilers. These are to be read by those who have seen all Episodes of Lonelygirl15 (or KateModern, in regards to the other Portal). If you have not, you are entering at your own risk '''LEAVE, ENTER''''' - or something like that? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 18:30, 2 October 2007 (EST)

== Current Main Characters?? ==

I think it's pretty clear who the current main (blogging) characters are: That is, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Mallory, Emma. I think that the main page needs to reflect that (while please keeping grayed-out Bree). Yay or nay? ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:02, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

Yay.
Taylor should be taken off the list ... she's been gone for about a month now.

:Agreed. Though maybe a different order? Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma-Mallory? In Season One it was Bree as the Main Character with Jonas and Daniel as the two sidekicks. Now I'm getting the vibe that it's Jonas as the new main character with Daniel and Sarah as the two sidekicks. (And Bree should be on the front page too, of course.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:02, 4 October 2007 (EST)
::I'm down with that order. The big challenge is finding "headshots" for Em and Mal, now.. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 13:07, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
Ach... sorry, I didn't see that this discussion was already going on up above. But seriously, I think it's time to change it... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 13:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Actually, the discussion above is more focused on Bree's portal image, and how former main characters should be treated. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:38, 4 October 2007

I am going to officially combine my reply to the above discussion and this one, simply because I am too lazy to type this out twice. I am strongly opposed to putting Gemma and Spencer (or any ''former'' character besides Bree) on the main page, simply because they are just that... "former" characters. There are plenty of other ways to find out about major former characters, including the [[Characters]], the bottom indexes on many of the other character's pages, and the video pages themselves that the characters appear in. The only reason I think Bree is should stay is because she ''is'' lonelygirl15. She is not currently an active character.. CERTAINLY not an active blogging character.. so I don't think she should look the same as all the other characters. Hence the greying. I think, aside from setting her apart in a good way, it kind of shows that we're in "mourning" for her.. so to speak. Now, about switching the characters. After watching recently, I think I can agree that the characters should be: Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, Mallory, (Bree). Please make sure though, that as you get new images you keep all the character's heads a fairly consistant size. Consistancy = good :)

So can anyone get some pics of Emma and Mallory?

== Opinions on new news design? ==

Hey everyone...the plain, lame news-design always bothered me, so I designed a new one today. Could you all tell me what you think of it, what might have to be improved, and, most importantly, if it negatively affects your loading times? Thanks. 
Known problems:
*Light initials are sometimes hard to read
*Faction-/statusless videos have an extra line (easy fix, just have to discuss something with Z first)
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:23, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

: I love the concept, but ... the background colors - are they in relation to who's blogging? I can't say I'm a big fan of the yellow, but these are very minor things - I think the idea is terrific!! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 14:02, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::Thanks :)
:::'''Yellow:''' Newest vid.
:::'''Lighter grey:''' Even episode numbers.
:::'''Darker grey:''' Odd episode numbers.
:::'''Dark purple-ish grey:''' Videos with no "real" number, i.e. those containing letters.
::Usually, this'd lead to the first one being yellow, and the other three having alternating row colors - it just looks weird right now because Nikki posted, and she has the NaN color. Check out [[Portal:KateModern]] to see how it looks without non-canon vlogs in the list.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:15, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::I won't deny that I prefer the older version better (hey, it was what I was used to), but ''it is'' growing on me. :D Good job, Renegade, though I too must ask we pick a different color than yellow. That, and can we still post non-video updates like we have in the past? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:18, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
:::lol...that reminds me of something I read just a few hours ago...
:::{{quote|[http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/10/09/30-usability-issues-to-be-aware-of/ Smashing Magazine]|'''Baby-Duck-Syndrome''' Baby Duck Syndrome describes the tendency for visitors to stick to the first design they learn and judge other designs by their similarity to that first design. The result is that users generally prefer systems similar to those they learned on and dislike unfamiliar systems. This results in the usability problems most re-designs have: users, get used with previous designs, feel uncomfortable with new site structure they have to find their way through.}}
:::hehe...but as long as it's growing on you :D
:::As for the events, that's a [[Template:Event|separate template that I didn't touch]] - I can think of no reason why it shouldn't work.
:::And about the yellow...meh. I like it, I think it works, but if I'm the only one, I guess we'll have to change it. Any suggestions? Blue, red and gray are used extensively on the portals, so they're probably not a good choice. Purple-ish is used by non-canon. It also shouldn't be similar to current character colors, and should provide enough contrast to stand out.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: Heh, we've imprinted. I don't have a suggestion for a color yet, but will think about this all day today. -[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 02:21, 10 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: I like the yellow. It screams "new video." If yellow is too much, then maybe a green color? Meh, I dunno. I just like green is all... -[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] ([[User talk:Free2liv4evr|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Free2liv4evr|contribs]]) 02:56, 12 October 2007 (PST)
::::: Okay, the yellow is growing on me. And now it will always remind me of a baby duck. :-) - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 05:07, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

== Brand New Images ==

So after much discussion over the last few months about the characters and their portal images, I decided to be a lameo and spend most of my Saturday night finding and cropping new pictures. I think they came out really good, and everyone I've asked so far has agreed, but I wanted to know what you guys thought before I made anything official :)

[[User:Zoey/sandbox]] Ta da!

I'm looking for images where they look really good.. then I'm trying to get equalish saturation levels within the pictures and I want all their heads to be about the same size and proportion within the shot. So what do you think? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:34, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:Well, you probably know I love those two pictures of Jonas and Daniel - and overall I think it looks great. The colors in the pictures of Sarah and Mallory are a good bit warmer than the others, but something about the way they're ordered makes it work well regardless! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 10:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I really like it. It was time for a change. -- [[User:Bree is awesome|Bree is awesome]] 12:28, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I vote... Yes to Zoey's design! It looks great! --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:41, 21 October 2007 (EST)

::Yay, I'm so so glad you like it! I'm still messing around with Bree a bit, I want to make sure we get her the ABSOLUTE BEST IMAGE we possibly can. So if you could keep an eye on her and let me know which ones you like/don't like, that'd be great. Otherwise.. if there are no objections in a bit, I'll go ahead and make the changes :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Oh, I really like it, Zoey. Brava. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:41, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

==Dates for videos==
I was under the impression that videos posted on the same day should have only the newest one list the date, but Renegade keeps reverting. Am I wrong on this one? I won't change it anymore until we reach a consensus on the issue. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:I say they all should list the date.
::[[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 13:18, 23 December 2007 (CST)
::Same here, they should all list the date when listed --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:38, 2 January 2008 (CST)
:::Of course they should...not only is the other option optically inferior, it's also confusing - how is someone who's coming two days later going to know all vids were on the same day? Somebody might just have forgotten to add the date, just like we sometimes have no forum link.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:57, 2 January 2008 (CST)

== 'Breeniverse' ==

This name is on the main page a lot.. seems a bit awkward considering she's quite..well dead. Another term perhaps?
:It's the term the Creators used so far. We're open for suggestions, but "lonelyverse" kind of sounds depressive, and "danielverse" and "jonasverse" are just as personal. "Orderverse" sounds like the Order is the protagonist. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.73.187.201|79.73.187.201]] ([[User talk:79.73.187.201|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.73.187.201|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]])

== New portal image ==

So i went ahead and made one to show you guys, posting it here cause the main page is locked.

What do you think?

[[Image:PORTALIMAGEs3sm.jpg]]

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]

:The main page will likely be redesigned right after the lg15 portal, as such it is not yet foreseeable whether your new image will be applicable.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:57, 27 January 2008 (CST)

::While Renegade has a point (they may release new production pictures with Jennie & Gina, who knows?), that's a pretty awesome image, Michiev! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:02, 27 January 2008 (CST)

== New portal title image. ==

I made an image so that we can make a new title image for the lonelygirl15 portal.

it would look like this: 
{{header|1=[[Image:Lonelygirl15_Portal_Title_2.png]]|off=yes}} I'm a little rusty with photoshop, so the LG15 logo still has marks around it. I can also make headers for some other articles, too. (that is, if we decide to use them.) {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 8:58 PM}}
:I like it, but there are two problems with it: 1) I think Ren's trying to tweak out a new portal version for Zoey, which would make the header silly. 2) The new promo images hint that the LG15 font may change ''again'', so we should probably wait for that, as well. (Also, just out of curiosity, where'd you get the font sample from? It's extremely pixelated.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:08, 3 February 2008 (CST)
::Flickr. It wasn't pixelated though. I just resized it and because I'm not very good with making things transparent, I reached for the magic wand. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:43 PM}}
::Oh, I made a new version that's less... bad (just because it was bugging me.) 
::Here: 
::{{header|1=[[Image:Lg15portaltitle.png]]|off=yes}} 
::an improvement, but we won't use it anyways so this is kind of pointless... baha. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:54 PM}}

== GINA ==

Put up sideline pitcure of Gina

RESPOND!
RESPOND
RESPOND
RESPOND
:You know, impatience will get you nowhere. She's not exactly a main character yet. Heck, Emma can't even be written off as a main character. Patience, young padawan, patience. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:28, 21 February 2008 (CST)

#1 Shiori scares me. scares me BAD. #2 THANKYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

== Emma's Actress: Fired? Quit? Emma never appearing again? WE NEED NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RESPOND ==

Please Respond!

== YouWish8=AUNTALEX'S ACCOUNT? ==

New Response Video Made. CLAIMS: Shadows are people on a lot of drugs that make sure they never sleep, and
(these drugs) kill them when they are thirty. Who Posted It and aparently started the video with her face then montage/redub?
Why, none other than Jonas's Aunt, Alex. Should it be a featured video? Respond Here:
:Fan-made videos do not get featured on the Portal page - typically they get listed on the right side of the main page. The Portal page is to feature official videos and official important news, and that's about it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:42, 2 March 2008 (CST)

==JONAS'S PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE==

:Why is his photo darkened still? before I thought it was darkened to portray his mood at the time..when he was drinking and depressed. But why is it still darkened now? I think that should be changed!!
::It's not dark? It looks the same as everyone else's--[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:36, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Was this right? RE: Crossover vids ==

I posted the video infor under the KM template because it was first posted on Bebo, then updated both portals with the necessary information, except changed Steve to Jonas where needed. I'm sure there's no set decision on what to do, but I felt it should be discussed somewhere. --[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:35, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Portal Images ==

I made a few portal images for both LG15 and KM- although they're maybe not very good. Hopefully at least they'll motivate someone else to do better. :) 
[[Image:Lgportal.jpg]] 
[[Image:Kmportal.jpg]]

Talk:Portal:lonelygirl15

2008-04-26T03:17:16Z

Juuleeya: /* Portal Images */

Talk:Portal:lonelygirl15

2008-04-26T03:17:02Z

Juuleeya: /* Was this right? RE: Crossover vids */

File:Lgportal.jpg

2008-04-26T03:13:54Z

Juuleeya: Possible portal image for Lonelygirl15?

Possible portal image for Lonelygirl15?

File:Kmportal.jpg

2008-04-26T03:13:16Z

Juuleeya: Possible portal image for KateModern?

Possible portal image for KateModern?

KateModern relationships

2008-04-05T19:35:16Z

Juuleeya: /* Lee and Sophie */

{{see also|Lonelygirl15 relationships}}
This page is an attempt to track the relationships, crushes, and feelings of sexual tension between the characters of the [[KateModern]] series. For information on a specific relationship, click the navigation below.

==Kate==
===Kate and her ex===
[[Image:KM0001-DrawnCharacters.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Kate's ex stomped on her heart.]]
According to her early [[Fight and Flight|art videos]], Kate's ex broke her heart. When Kate begins to have [[Awful Dream|bad dreams]], she goes to [[Sangas|see her ex]] in order to make sense of them. This greatly [[Lovers Quarrel|upsets]] her current boyfriend, [[Tariq]]. After Kate goes to see a specialist about her abnormal blood and wakes up [[I can't remember anything!|unable to remember anything]], her friends believe that Kate may have restarted her relationship with her ex, in spite of her [[A new friend|instances to the contrary]]. Kate's ex was quickly forgotten as soon as [[Steve]] appeared on the scene. However, he was brought up again as a possible suspect in Kate's murder after Charlie uncovered old footage that suggested that Kate was being stalked by him and was at serious risk (In the footage, she called the police when he was knocking at her door).

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===Kate and Tariq===
[[Image:KateModern4.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Kate and Tariq enjoy themselves.]]
At the beginning of the [[KateModern]] storyline, Kate is dating Tariq. The two seem happy until Kate tells him that [[A Friendly Lie|her name really isn't Kate]]. Kate then has some memory loss and seeks the help of Steve. Tariq is uneasy about the connection between Steve and Kate, and when he finds out that Steve is in the Hymn of One he becomes angry. Tariq then confronts and [[Tariq Attack|hits Steve]], then storms off. After a [[Walk of Shame|small break]] from the group, Tariq reappeared at [[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM|Carnaby Street]], frantic and worried about Kate. Since that day, and the confirmation that Steve was not who he claimed to be, the two were closer than ever before.

Soon though, Kate started being [[Who Watches The Watcher?|stalked]] by a [[Watcher]], which worried Tariq. His worry increased when [[Dudley]] came and left a secret message for her. He, Kate, and Charlie went to [[Girl Power|meet up with Dudley]] at a [[Pinchin Street|prearranged location]], however, Kate asked him not to join them. She said that his "knight in shining armor crap" would get in the way. This upset Tariq greatly, causing him to [[The End|break things off]] with Kate.
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===Kate and Steve===
[[Image:Steve talks to Kate.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Well, he ''seems'' trustworthy...]]
Kate and Steve's relationship started off when Kate [[A new friend|met him in a library]] after doing some research about her memory loss. He claimed to be there researching the same thing and told Kate that he can help her regain her memory. This new friendship made everyone close to Kate uneasy. It was later revealed that [[Charlie's party|Steve is a member of the Hymn of One]], this revelation lead Kate to [[Ding Dong|assualt]], [[The Prisoner|tie up and interrogate]] Steve. During his interrogation, Steve reveals that he has been lying about his amnesia and his intentions. After being released, Steve threatened to go the police but [[Gavin]] was able to [[Gavin Steps Up|convince him not to]]. After [[Why?|Kate's disappearance]] Steve declared that he was [[Bless You|concerned about Kate]] and wanted to help Charlie find her.

After an absence of two months, it is revealed that Steve was working undercover to gather enough evidence to convince Kate about the order's true nature. Steve reveals to Charlie one night that I thinks he was in love with Kate.
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===Kate and Charlie===
[[Image:Charlie Kate.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Charlie and Kate make funny faces.]]
Kate and Charlie are flatmates. [[Charlie]] [[A Friendly Lie|introduced Kate to her friends]] after they met. When Kate started hanging out with Steve, Charlie was [[Charlie's Workout|very concerned]] and didn't want Kate spending time with him. Charlie was proven right when it turned out that Steve was lying to Kate about his amnesia and involved in the Hymn of One. Charlie has continued to prove herself a loyal friend to Kate by always being concerned for her, even when [[Why?|Kate assaulted Charlie]] and disappeared. Upon her [[Smells like Xmas spirit|return]], Charlie welcomes her home with open arms.

Kate soon [[Kate Come Home|runs away]] again and Charlie finds her [[Homeless (KateModern)|living on the streets]]. Although Charlie tries to keep a better eye on her friend, Kate takes off again, [[Kate Positive|claiming that she has found her purpose]]. Charlie becomes upset and decides to [[St. Kilda Beach |leave for Australia]]. She returns quickly, though, after learning of [[Back to Brick Lane|Kate's untimely death]].

Charlie continues to honor her friend after she's gone with a beautiful [[Kate's Memorial Service|memorial service]].
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==Tariq==
===Tariq and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Tariq|Kate and Tariq]]''
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===Tariq and Gavin===
[[Image:Tariq and Gavin.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Tariq and Gavin hard at work.]]
Tariq and Gavin are business partners and best friends. The series started off with the two [[Spiders|starting up a business together]]. It is this business along with Kate and all of the drama that she is associated with that causes most of the disagreements between the pair, as Gavin thinks that he and Tariq should be [[Birdwatching|focusing on their blossoming business]], lest anyone beat them to the punch, instead of wasting time with Kate's "craziness". After Gavin's loyalty was put into doubt by Steve's comment, it was Tariq who found him [[Explain yourself|hiding out in his sister's house]]. Tariq was also able to convince Gavin to do his part in helping Kate find out what happened with the specialist.

After Tariq and Gavin`s abuse of their trainee Lee, the theft of the software and the resulting treasure hunt for it, Tariq and Gavin`s relationship changed completely. Both men blamed the other for the loss of the software, and Gavin has put Tariq on his [[The List|hate-list]]. They were not on speaking terms for almost a month, reconciling in time for Christmas.
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===Tariq and Julia===
[[Image:KM115-TariqJuliaCaught.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Caught in the act.]]
Tariq and Julia meet in [[Orange Wednesday]], when Gavin and Tariq go to the Orange Mobile shop, where Julia works. At first, she finds them bizarre because they are filming everything, but she comes around as she later [[Moving On|goes out with Tariq]]. Tariq describes his relationship with Julia as "more relaxed than his relationship with Kate ever was." Since then, they have been seen going on multiple dates, becoming somewhat serious in their relationship.

Tariq trusts Julia enough to tell her his and Gavin's location while they are [[Terrence (video)|in hiding]] after [[The Leak|Lee exposed their software for what it was]]. Julia helps Tariq when Lee begins leaving clues to where he hid the software, and is annoyed by Tariq and Gavin's inability to work together. On the last clue, Julia takes the initiative and she and Charlie go to get the last gnome [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007|themselves]].

After the software is lost, Tariq deems Julia the one thing he's got going for him. They spend more time together and less time worrying about the order. During Christmastime they are seen decorating a tree together in Tariq's flat.

However, by [[Happy new year?|New Years]], the two had broken up. Julia ended things, telling Tariq that he "need[s] to learn when to let something go."
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==Charlie==
===Charlie and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Charlie|Kate and Charlie]]''
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===Charlie and her exes===
[[Image:0026-Charlie Digusted.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Charlie's exes disgust her.]]
In an attempt to warn [[Kate]] about the creepiness of [[Steve]], Charlie reminisced about [[Charlie's Workout|other creepy guy]]s she knew in her past. She talks about '''Brad''', who used to keep live snakes and feed them mice. She also talks about '''Peter''', '''Bruce''', '''Henry''' and his collection of female mannequins, '''Roger''', the romantic, who was not particularily well endowed, and '''Donald''', who she figures is best not to talk about on camera.
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===Charlie and Gavin===
[[Image:0028-KM-Charlie-Gavin.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Keep your socks on!]]
The series started with Gavin and Charlie barely knowing each other, but in the video [[Office space]] Gavin showed that he is interested in Charlie by wanting to go to her birthday party. At Charlie's party, the pair flirted. In the video [[Birdwatching]], Gavin and Charlie talk about Kate, and Gavin offers to help. He then gives her a kiss on the cheek and the video ends with Gavin getting a close-up of Charlie's behind. When Charlie and Gavin were locked up in Tariq and Gavin's office they made many videos, one of which showing that [[Creep or unique?|Charlie thinks Gavin is cute]]. That particular video ended with Gavin hugging Charlie as the two laughed. After Gavin [[Gavin Steps Up|convinced Steve not to press charges]] against Kate, Charlie decided to that he deserved a treat and asked him out to the cinema. In the most recent video [[False Alarm]] Charlie confesses that she and Gavin had sex. In the video she thought she was pregnant but ended up getting her period at the end of it, causing Gavin to [[...|freak out a bit.]]

Charlie then goes to see the movie [[Disturbia]], and begins to get a crush on Shia LaBeouf. While comparing her feelings for Gavin and Shia, Charlie [[Girls Are From Venus|reveals]] parts of a private video that she and Gavin made, in which Gavin asks her to "keep [her] socks on." This embarrasses Gavin, who angrily heads out to a bar to [[Keep Your Socks On!|pick up other girls]]. Upset by this, Charlie turns her full attention onto Shia, and heads to the Regency Grand Hotel to [[Desperately Seeking Shia|try and meet him]]. However, Gavin, having realized his feelings for Charlie, goes to [[Somebody Do Something |stop her]]. He ends up [[Saved By LaBeouf|asking her]] to be his girlfriend.

After Kate went off with [[Michelle Clore]] to study art, Charlie couldn't pay the rent for [[Kate and Charlie's flat|the flat]] that she used to live in with Kate. Gavin then rerented [[Gavin and Charlie's flat|her old flat]] for the two of them to live in together. The arrangement started off nicely, but became strained after Lee stole the software for Gavin and Tariq's business. Charlie reluctantly helped Gavin decipher the clues to find the software (even kissing Lee to try to get it back).

After the Software was lost, Gavin became reclusive and borderline insane and Charlie became frustrated with him to the point where she finally [[You Stink|broke it off]] with him. Gavin posted a blog online asking for ideas on how to get Charlie back, expecting to receive numerous suggestions. Instead, everyone unanimously told him to take a shower and straighten out his life. He followed the advice and it worked for a short while until Charlie accused him of working with Terrence to steal the list of trait positive girls.

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===Charlie and Shia LaBeouf===
[[Image:KM0050-CharlieLovesShia.JPG|thumb|right|200px|I LOVE SHIA LABEOUF!]]
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===Charlie and Lee===
[[Image:KM0123-LeeKissesCharlie.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Hahaha Gavin, look at me now!]]
In an attempt to recover Gavin's stolen software, in [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007]] Charlie was forced to kiss Lee "for ten whole seconds", while [[Julia]] filmed in horror.
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==Gavin==
===Gavin and Tariq===
''See [[#Tariq and Gavin|Tariq and Gavin]]''
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===Gavin and Charlie===
''See [[#Charlie and Gavin|Charlie and Gavin]]''
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===Gavin and Julia===
[[Image:KM0069-Gavin-Julia.jpg|thumb|right|200px|What girlfriend?!]]
When Gavin first meets Julia, he [[Orange Wednesday|attempts to flirt with her]]. Any chance he may have had, however, was foiled when Tariq reminded him that he was already involved with Charlie.
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==Steve==
===Steve and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Steve|Kate and Steve]]''
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==Julia==
===Julia and Tariq===
''See [[#Tariq and Julia|Tariq and Julia]]''
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===Julia and Gavin===
''See [[#Gavin and Julia|Gavin and Julia]]''
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===Julia and Rupert===
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[[Image:KM204-JuliaInLove.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Julia gushes about her new love.]]
Julia first told the world about her new love interest in her video, [[Can You Keep a Secret?]] However, she would not reveal his name. A few weeks later, Charlie [[Precious Blood: 12PM|caught her in bed]] with Rupert Van Helden, and the two confirmed that they were seeing each other and very much in love.
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==Lee==
===Lee and Charlie===
''See [[#Charlie and Lee|Charlie and Lee]]''
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===Lee and Sophie===
[[Image:Sophielee.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Caught up in the moment?]]
During the treasure hunt to recover Gavin and Tariq's software, Sophie met Lee in the [[Waterloo station - 130PM, 20th November 2007|Waterloo Station]]. Lee claimed that Sophie was "so lovely", and was clearly taken with her. [[St. Paul's Cathedral: 6pm - 22nd November 2007|Later]], Lee left flowers for her, which distracted her while a [[Watcher]] ran off with the next clue in the hunt.
For a long time, nothing more occurred between the two, but during the third live chat during the 12-in-12. Lee visited Sophie in her office, and both were visibly upset by the latest video. Both asked viewers for help regarding the new puzzle that Terrence had uploaded to Charlie's Bebo site. It was eventually discovered that the image was indicating that Charlie was being held at Aunt Joan's house. Lee tried franticly to contact Gavin, but the line was busy, so his number was given to fans to try and contact. After several minutes of failed attempts to contact Gavin's phone, Lee remembered that Justin had implanted trackers into all JTV staff members' phones. Lee raced off to track Gavin's phone, and gave Sophie a passionate kiss before leaving.
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==Sophie==
===Sophie and Lee===
''See [[#Lee and Sophie|Lee and Sophie]]''

==Alice==
===Alice and Rupert===
[[Image:KM0203-AliceandSophie.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Grrowl.]]
While going over the list of [[Who Killed Kate?|suspects]] in [[Kate]]'s murder with her housemate, Sophie, [[Alice]] commented on the fact that she found [[Rupert Van Heldon|Rupert]] cute and growled seductively when his name was mentioned.
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==Rupert==
===Rupert and Alice===
''See [[#Alice and Rupert|Alice and Rupert]]''
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===Rupert and Julia===
''See [[#Julia and Rupert|Julia and Rupert]]''
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[[Category:KateModern characters]]

KateModern relationships

2008-04-05T19:33:08Z

Juuleeya: /* Lee and Sophie */

{{see also|Lonelygirl15 relationships}}
This page is an attempt to track the relationships, crushes, and feelings of sexual tension between the characters of the [[KateModern]] series. For information on a specific relationship, click the navigation below.

==Kate==
===Kate and her ex===
[[Image:KM0001-DrawnCharacters.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Kate's ex stomped on her heart.]]
According to her early [[Fight and Flight|art videos]], Kate's ex broke her heart. When Kate begins to have [[Awful Dream|bad dreams]], she goes to [[Sangas|see her ex]] in order to make sense of them. This greatly [[Lovers Quarrel|upsets]] her current boyfriend, [[Tariq]]. After Kate goes to see a specialist about her abnormal blood and wakes up [[I can't remember anything!|unable to remember anything]], her friends believe that Kate may have restarted her relationship with her ex, in spite of her [[A new friend|instances to the contrary]]. Kate's ex was quickly forgotten as soon as [[Steve]] appeared on the scene. However, he was brought up again as a possible suspect in Kate's murder after Charlie uncovered old footage that suggested that Kate was being stalked by him and was at serious risk (In the footage, she called the police when he was knocking at her door).

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===Kate and Tariq===
[[Image:KateModern4.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Kate and Tariq enjoy themselves.]]
At the beginning of the [[KateModern]] storyline, Kate is dating Tariq. The two seem happy until Kate tells him that [[A Friendly Lie|her name really isn't Kate]]. Kate then has some memory loss and seeks the help of Steve. Tariq is uneasy about the connection between Steve and Kate, and when he finds out that Steve is in the Hymn of One he becomes angry. Tariq then confronts and [[Tariq Attack|hits Steve]], then storms off. After a [[Walk of Shame|small break]] from the group, Tariq reappeared at [[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM|Carnaby Street]], frantic and worried about Kate. Since that day, and the confirmation that Steve was not who he claimed to be, the two were closer than ever before.

Soon though, Kate started being [[Who Watches The Watcher?|stalked]] by a [[Watcher]], which worried Tariq. His worry increased when [[Dudley]] came and left a secret message for her. He, Kate, and Charlie went to [[Girl Power|meet up with Dudley]] at a [[Pinchin Street|prearranged location]], however, Kate asked him not to join them. She said that his "knight in shining armor crap" would get in the way. This upset Tariq greatly, causing him to [[The End|break things off]] with Kate.
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===Kate and Steve===
[[Image:Steve talks to Kate.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Well, he ''seems'' trustworthy...]]
Kate and Steve's relationship started off when Kate [[A new friend|met him in a library]] after doing some research about her memory loss. He claimed to be there researching the same thing and told Kate that he can help her regain her memory. This new friendship made everyone close to Kate uneasy. It was later revealed that [[Charlie's party|Steve is a member of the Hymn of One]], this revelation lead Kate to [[Ding Dong|assualt]], [[The Prisoner|tie up and interrogate]] Steve. During his interrogation, Steve reveals that he has been lying about his amnesia and his intentions. After being released, Steve threatened to go the police but [[Gavin]] was able to [[Gavin Steps Up|convince him not to]]. After [[Why?|Kate's disappearance]] Steve declared that he was [[Bless You|concerned about Kate]] and wanted to help Charlie find her.

After an absence of two months, it is revealed that Steve was working undercover to gather enough evidence to convince Kate about the order's true nature. Steve reveals to Charlie one night that I thinks he was in love with Kate.
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===Kate and Charlie===
[[Image:Charlie Kate.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Charlie and Kate make funny faces.]]
Kate and Charlie are flatmates. [[Charlie]] [[A Friendly Lie|introduced Kate to her friends]] after they met. When Kate started hanging out with Steve, Charlie was [[Charlie's Workout|very concerned]] and didn't want Kate spending time with him. Charlie was proven right when it turned out that Steve was lying to Kate about his amnesia and involved in the Hymn of One. Charlie has continued to prove herself a loyal friend to Kate by always being concerned for her, even when [[Why?|Kate assaulted Charlie]] and disappeared. Upon her [[Smells like Xmas spirit|return]], Charlie welcomes her home with open arms.

Kate soon [[Kate Come Home|runs away]] again and Charlie finds her [[Homeless (KateModern)|living on the streets]]. Although Charlie tries to keep a better eye on her friend, Kate takes off again, [[Kate Positive|claiming that she has found her purpose]]. Charlie becomes upset and decides to [[St. Kilda Beach |leave for Australia]]. She returns quickly, though, after learning of [[Back to Brick Lane|Kate's untimely death]].

Charlie continues to honor her friend after she's gone with a beautiful [[Kate's Memorial Service|memorial service]].
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==Tariq==
===Tariq and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Tariq|Kate and Tariq]]''
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===Tariq and Gavin===
[[Image:Tariq and Gavin.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Tariq and Gavin hard at work.]]
Tariq and Gavin are business partners and best friends. The series started off with the two [[Spiders|starting up a business together]]. It is this business along with Kate and all of the drama that she is associated with that causes most of the disagreements between the pair, as Gavin thinks that he and Tariq should be [[Birdwatching|focusing on their blossoming business]], lest anyone beat them to the punch, instead of wasting time with Kate's "craziness". After Gavin's loyalty was put into doubt by Steve's comment, it was Tariq who found him [[Explain yourself|hiding out in his sister's house]]. Tariq was also able to convince Gavin to do his part in helping Kate find out what happened with the specialist.

After Tariq and Gavin`s abuse of their trainee Lee, the theft of the software and the resulting treasure hunt for it, Tariq and Gavin`s relationship changed completely. Both men blamed the other for the loss of the software, and Gavin has put Tariq on his [[The List|hate-list]]. They were not on speaking terms for almost a month, reconciling in time for Christmas.
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===Tariq and Julia===
[[Image:KM115-TariqJuliaCaught.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Caught in the act.]]
Tariq and Julia meet in [[Orange Wednesday]], when Gavin and Tariq go to the Orange Mobile shop, where Julia works. At first, she finds them bizarre because they are filming everything, but she comes around as she later [[Moving On|goes out with Tariq]]. Tariq describes his relationship with Julia as "more relaxed than his relationship with Kate ever was." Since then, they have been seen going on multiple dates, becoming somewhat serious in their relationship.

Tariq trusts Julia enough to tell her his and Gavin's location while they are [[Terrence (video)|in hiding]] after [[The Leak|Lee exposed their software for what it was]]. Julia helps Tariq when Lee begins leaving clues to where he hid the software, and is annoyed by Tariq and Gavin's inability to work together. On the last clue, Julia takes the initiative and she and Charlie go to get the last gnome [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007|themselves]].

After the software is lost, Tariq deems Julia the one thing he's got going for him. They spend more time together and less time worrying about the order. During Christmastime they are seen decorating a tree together in Tariq's flat.

However, by [[Happy new year?|New Years]], the two had broken up. Julia ended things, telling Tariq that he "need[s] to learn when to let something go."
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==Charlie==
===Charlie and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Charlie|Kate and Charlie]]''
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===Charlie and her exes===
[[Image:0026-Charlie Digusted.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Charlie's exes disgust her.]]
In an attempt to warn [[Kate]] about the creepiness of [[Steve]], Charlie reminisced about [[Charlie's Workout|other creepy guy]]s she knew in her past. She talks about '''Brad''', who used to keep live snakes and feed them mice. She also talks about '''Peter''', '''Bruce''', '''Henry''' and his collection of female mannequins, '''Roger''', the romantic, who was not particularily well endowed, and '''Donald''', who she figures is best not to talk about on camera.
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===Charlie and Gavin===
[[Image:0028-KM-Charlie-Gavin.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Keep your socks on!]]
The series started with Gavin and Charlie barely knowing each other, but in the video [[Office space]] Gavin showed that he is interested in Charlie by wanting to go to her birthday party. At Charlie's party, the pair flirted. In the video [[Birdwatching]], Gavin and Charlie talk about Kate, and Gavin offers to help. He then gives her a kiss on the cheek and the video ends with Gavin getting a close-up of Charlie's behind. When Charlie and Gavin were locked up in Tariq and Gavin's office they made many videos, one of which showing that [[Creep or unique?|Charlie thinks Gavin is cute]]. That particular video ended with Gavin hugging Charlie as the two laughed. After Gavin [[Gavin Steps Up|convinced Steve not to press charges]] against Kate, Charlie decided to that he deserved a treat and asked him out to the cinema. In the most recent video [[False Alarm]] Charlie confesses that she and Gavin had sex. In the video she thought she was pregnant but ended up getting her period at the end of it, causing Gavin to [[...|freak out a bit.]]

Charlie then goes to see the movie [[Disturbia]], and begins to get a crush on Shia LaBeouf. While comparing her feelings for Gavin and Shia, Charlie [[Girls Are From Venus|reveals]] parts of a private video that she and Gavin made, in which Gavin asks her to "keep [her] socks on." This embarrasses Gavin, who angrily heads out to a bar to [[Keep Your Socks On!|pick up other girls]]. Upset by this, Charlie turns her full attention onto Shia, and heads to the Regency Grand Hotel to [[Desperately Seeking Shia|try and meet him]]. However, Gavin, having realized his feelings for Charlie, goes to [[Somebody Do Something |stop her]]. He ends up [[Saved By LaBeouf|asking her]] to be his girlfriend.

After Kate went off with [[Michelle Clore]] to study art, Charlie couldn't pay the rent for [[Kate and Charlie's flat|the flat]] that she used to live in with Kate. Gavin then rerented [[Gavin and Charlie's flat|her old flat]] for the two of them to live in together. The arrangement started off nicely, but became strained after Lee stole the software for Gavin and Tariq's business. Charlie reluctantly helped Gavin decipher the clues to find the software (even kissing Lee to try to get it back).

After the Software was lost, Gavin became reclusive and borderline insane and Charlie became frustrated with him to the point where she finally [[You Stink|broke it off]] with him. Gavin posted a blog online asking for ideas on how to get Charlie back, expecting to receive numerous suggestions. Instead, everyone unanimously told him to take a shower and straighten out his life. He followed the advice and it worked for a short while until Charlie accused him of working with Terrence to steal the list of trait positive girls.

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===Charlie and Shia LaBeouf===
[[Image:KM0050-CharlieLovesShia.JPG|thumb|right|200px|I LOVE SHIA LABEOUF!]]
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===Charlie and Lee===
[[Image:KM0123-LeeKissesCharlie.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Hahaha Gavin, look at me now!]]
In an attempt to recover Gavin's stolen software, in [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007]] Charlie was forced to kiss Lee "for ten whole seconds", while [[Julia]] filmed in horror.
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==Gavin==
===Gavin and Tariq===
''See [[#Tariq and Gavin|Tariq and Gavin]]''
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===Gavin and Charlie===
''See [[#Charlie and Gavin|Charlie and Gavin]]''
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===Gavin and Julia===
[[Image:KM0069-Gavin-Julia.jpg|thumb|right|200px|What girlfriend?!]]
When Gavin first meets Julia, he [[Orange Wednesday|attempts to flirt with her]]. Any chance he may have had, however, was foiled when Tariq reminded him that he was already involved with Charlie.
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==Steve==
===Steve and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Steve|Kate and Steve]]''
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==Julia==
===Julia and Tariq===
''See [[#Tariq and Julia|Tariq and Julia]]''
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===Julia and Gavin===
''See [[#Gavin and Julia|Gavin and Julia]]''
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===Julia and Rupert===
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[[Image:KM204-JuliaInLove.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Julia gushes about her new love.]]
Julia first told the world about her new love interest in her video, [[Can You Keep a Secret?]] However, she would not reveal his name. A few weeks later, Charlie [[Precious Blood: 12PM|caught her in bed]] with Rupert Van Helden, and the two confirmed that they were seeing each other and very much in love.
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==Lee==
===Lee and Charlie===
''See [[#Charlie and Lee|Charlie and Lee]]''
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===Lee and Sophie===
[[Image:Sophielee.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Caught up in the moment?]]
During the treasure hunt to recover Gavin and Tariq's software, Sophie met Lee in the [[Waterloo station - 130PM, 20th November 2007|Waterloo Station]]. Lee claimed that Sophie was "so lovely", and was clearly taken with her. [[St. Paul's Cathedral: 6pm - 22nd November 2007|Later]], Lee left flowers for her, which distracted her while a [[Watcher]] ran off with the next clue in the hunt.
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==Sophie==
===Sophie and Lee===
''See [[#Lee and Sophie|Lee and Sophie]]''

==Alice==
===Alice and Rupert===
[[Image:KM0203-AliceandSophie.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Grrowl.]]
While going over the list of [[Who Killed Kate?|suspects]] in [[Kate]]'s murder with her housemate, Sophie, [[Alice]] commented on the fact that she found [[Rupert Van Heldon|Rupert]] cute and growled seductively when his name was mentioned.
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==Rupert==
===Rupert and Alice===
''See [[#Alice and Rupert|Alice and Rupert]]''
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===Rupert and Julia===
''See [[#Julia and Rupert|Julia and Rupert]]''
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KateModern relationships

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This page is an attempt to track the relationships, crushes, and feelings of sexual tension between the characters of the [[KateModern]] series. For information on a specific relationship, click the navigation below.

==Kate==
===Kate and her ex===
[[Image:KM0001-DrawnCharacters.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Kate's ex stomped on her heart.]]
According to her early [[Fight and Flight|art videos]], Kate's ex broke her heart. When Kate begins to have [[Awful Dream|bad dreams]], she goes to [[Sangas|see her ex]] in order to make sense of them. This greatly [[Lovers Quarrel|upsets]] her current boyfriend, [[Tariq]]. After Kate goes to see a specialist about her abnormal blood and wakes up [[I can't remember anything!|unable to remember anything]], her friends believe that Kate may have restarted her relationship with her ex, in spite of her [[A new friend|instances to the contrary]]. Kate's ex was quickly forgotten as soon as [[Steve]] appeared on the scene. However, he was brought up again as a possible suspect in Kate's murder after Charlie uncovered old footage that suggested that Kate was being stalked by him and was at serious risk (In the footage, she called the police when he was knocking at her door).

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===Kate and Tariq===
[[Image:KateModern4.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Kate and Tariq enjoy themselves.]]
At the beginning of the [[KateModern]] storyline, Kate is dating Tariq. The two seem happy until Kate tells him that [[A Friendly Lie|her name really isn't Kate]]. Kate then has some memory loss and seeks the help of Steve. Tariq is uneasy about the connection between Steve and Kate, and when he finds out that Steve is in the Hymn of One he becomes angry. Tariq then confronts and [[Tariq Attack|hits Steve]], then storms off. After a [[Walk of Shame|small break]] from the group, Tariq reappeared at [[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM|Carnaby Street]], frantic and worried about Kate. Since that day, and the confirmation that Steve was not who he claimed to be, the two were closer than ever before.

Soon though, Kate started being [[Who Watches The Watcher?|stalked]] by a [[Watcher]], which worried Tariq. His worry increased when [[Dudley]] came and left a secret message for her. He, Kate, and Charlie went to [[Girl Power|meet up with Dudley]] at a [[Pinchin Street|prearranged location]], however, Kate asked him not to join them. She said that his "knight in shining armor crap" would get in the way. This upset Tariq greatly, causing him to [[The End|break things off]] with Kate.
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===Kate and Steve===
[[Image:Steve talks to Kate.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Well, he ''seems'' trustworthy...]]
Kate and Steve's relationship started off when Kate [[A new friend|met him in a library]] after doing some research about her memory loss. He claimed to be there researching the same thing and told Kate that he can help her regain her memory. This new friendship made everyone close to Kate uneasy. It was later revealed that [[Charlie's party|Steve is a member of the Hymn of One]], this revelation lead Kate to [[Ding Dong|assualt]], [[The Prisoner|tie up and interrogate]] Steve. During his interrogation, Steve reveals that he has been lying about his amnesia and his intentions. After being released, Steve threatened to go the police but [[Gavin]] was able to [[Gavin Steps Up|convince him not to]]. After [[Why?|Kate's disappearance]] Steve declared that he was [[Bless You|concerned about Kate]] and wanted to help Charlie find her.

After an absence of two months, it is revealed that Steve was working undercover to gather enough evidence to convince Kate about the order's true nature. Steve reveals to Charlie one night that I thinks he was in love with Kate.
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===Kate and Charlie===
[[Image:Charlie Kate.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Charlie and Kate make funny faces.]]
Kate and Charlie are flatmates. [[Charlie]] [[A Friendly Lie|introduced Kate to her friends]] after they met. When Kate started hanging out with Steve, Charlie was [[Charlie's Workout|very concerned]] and didn't want Kate spending time with him. Charlie was proven right when it turned out that Steve was lying to Kate about his amnesia and involved in the Hymn of One. Charlie has continued to prove herself a loyal friend to Kate by always being concerned for her, even when [[Why?|Kate assaulted Charlie]] and disappeared. Upon her [[Smells like Xmas spirit|return]], Charlie welcomes her home with open arms.

Kate soon [[Kate Come Home|runs away]] again and Charlie finds her [[Homeless (KateModern)|living on the streets]]. Although Charlie tries to keep a better eye on her friend, Kate takes off again, [[Kate Positive|claiming that she has found her purpose]]. Charlie becomes upset and decides to [[St. Kilda Beach |leave for Australia]]. She returns quickly, though, after learning of [[Back to Brick Lane|Kate's untimely death]].

Charlie continues to honor her friend after she's gone with a beautiful [[Kate's Memorial Service|memorial service]].
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==Tariq==
===Tariq and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Tariq|Kate and Tariq]]''
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===Tariq and Gavin===
[[Image:Tariq and Gavin.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Tariq and Gavin hard at work.]]
Tariq and Gavin are business partners and best friends. The series started off with the two [[Spiders|starting up a business together]]. It is this business along with Kate and all of the drama that she is associated with that causes most of the disagreements between the pair, as Gavin thinks that he and Tariq should be [[Birdwatching|focusing on their blossoming business]], lest anyone beat them to the punch, instead of wasting time with Kate's "craziness". After Gavin's loyalty was put into doubt by Steve's comment, it was Tariq who found him [[Explain yourself|hiding out in his sister's house]]. Tariq was also able to convince Gavin to do his part in helping Kate find out what happened with the specialist.

After Tariq and Gavin`s abuse of their trainee Lee, the theft of the software and the resulting treasure hunt for it, Tariq and Gavin`s relationship changed completely. Both men blamed the other for the loss of the software, and Gavin has put Tariq on his [[The List|hate-list]]. They were not on speaking terms for almost a month, reconciling in time for Christmas.
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===Tariq and Julia===
[[Image:KM115-TariqJuliaCaught.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Caught in the act.]]
Tariq and Julia meet in [[Orange Wednesday]], when Gavin and Tariq go to the Orange Mobile shop, where Julia works. At first, she finds them bizarre because they are filming everything, but she comes around as she later [[Moving On|goes out with Tariq]]. Tariq describes his relationship with Julia as "more relaxed than his relationship with Kate ever was." Since then, they have been seen going on multiple dates, becoming somewhat serious in their relationship.

Tariq trusts Julia enough to tell her his and Gavin's location while they are [[Terrence (video)|in hiding]] after [[The Leak|Lee exposed their software for what it was]]. Julia helps Tariq when Lee begins leaving clues to where he hid the software, and is annoyed by Tariq and Gavin's inability to work together. On the last clue, Julia takes the initiative and she and Charlie go to get the last gnome [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007|themselves]].

After the software is lost, Tariq deems Julia the one thing he's got going for him. They spend more time together and less time worrying about the order. During Christmastime they are seen decorating a tree together in Tariq's flat.

However, by [[Happy new year?|New Years]], the two had broken up. Julia ended things, telling Tariq that he "need[s] to learn when to let something go."
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==Charlie==
===Charlie and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Charlie|Kate and Charlie]]''
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===Charlie and her exes===
[[Image:0026-Charlie Digusted.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Charlie's exes disgust her.]]
In an attempt to warn [[Kate]] about the creepiness of [[Steve]], Charlie reminisced about [[Charlie's Workout|other creepy guy]]s she knew in her past. She talks about '''Brad''', who used to keep live snakes and feed them mice. She also talks about '''Peter''', '''Bruce''', '''Henry''' and his collection of female mannequins, '''Roger''', the romantic, who was not particularily well endowed, and '''Donald''', who she figures is best not to talk about on camera.
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===Charlie and Gavin===
[[Image:0028-KM-Charlie-Gavin.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Keep your socks on!]]
The series started with Gavin and Charlie barely knowing each other, but in the video [[Office space]] Gavin showed that he is interested in Charlie by wanting to go to her birthday party. At Charlie's party, the pair flirted. In the video [[Birdwatching]], Gavin and Charlie talk about Kate, and Gavin offers to help. He then gives her a kiss on the cheek and the video ends with Gavin getting a close-up of Charlie's behind. When Charlie and Gavin were locked up in Tariq and Gavin's office they made many videos, one of which showing that [[Creep or unique?|Charlie thinks Gavin is cute]]. That particular video ended with Gavin hugging Charlie as the two laughed. After Gavin [[Gavin Steps Up|convinced Steve not to press charges]] against Kate, Charlie decided to that he deserved a treat and asked him out to the cinema. In the most recent video [[False Alarm]] Charlie confesses that she and Gavin had sex. In the video she thought she was pregnant but ended up getting her period at the end of it, causing Gavin to [[...|freak out a bit.]]

Charlie then goes to see the movie [[Disturbia]], and begins to get a crush on Shia LaBeouf. While comparing her feelings for Gavin and Shia, Charlie [[Girls Are From Venus|reveals]] parts of a private video that she and Gavin made, in which Gavin asks her to "keep [her] socks on." This embarrasses Gavin, who angrily heads out to a bar to [[Keep Your Socks On!|pick up other girls]]. Upset by this, Charlie turns her full attention onto Shia, and heads to the Regency Grand Hotel to [[Desperately Seeking Shia|try and meet him]]. However, Gavin, having realized his feelings for Charlie, goes to [[Somebody Do Something |stop her]]. He ends up [[Saved By LaBeouf|asking her]] to be his girlfriend.

After Kate went off with [[Michelle Clore]] to study art, Charlie couldn't pay the rent for [[Kate and Charlie's flat|the flat]] that she used to live in with Kate. Gavin then rerented [[Gavin and Charlie's flat|her old flat]] for the two of them to live in together. The arrangement started off nicely, but became strained after Lee stole the software for Gavin and Tariq's business. Charlie reluctantly helped Gavin decipher the clues to find the software (even kissing Lee to try to get it back).

After the Software was lost, Gavin became reclusive and borderline insane and Charlie became frustrated with him to the point where she finally [[You Stink|broke it off]] with him. Gavin posted a blog online asking for ideas on how to get Charlie back, expecting to receive numerous suggestions. Instead, everyone unanimously told him to take a shower and straighten out his life. He followed the advice and it worked for a short while until Charlie accused him of working with Terrence to steal the list of trait positive girls.

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===Charlie and Shia LaBeouf===
[[Image:KM0050-CharlieLovesShia.JPG|thumb|right|200px|I LOVE SHIA LABEOUF!]]
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===Charlie and Lee===
[[Image:KM0123-LeeKissesCharlie.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Hahaha Gavin, look at me now!]]
In an attempt to recover Gavin's stolen software, in [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007]] Charlie was forced to kiss Lee "for ten whole seconds", while [[Julia]] filmed in horror.
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==Gavin==
===Gavin and Tariq===
''See [[#Tariq and Gavin|Tariq and Gavin]]''
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===Gavin and Charlie===
''See [[#Charlie and Gavin|Charlie and Gavin]]''
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===Gavin and Julia===
[[Image:KM0069-Gavin-Julia.jpg|thumb|right|200px|What girlfriend?!]]
When Gavin first meets Julia, he [[Orange Wednesday|attempts to flirt with her]]. Any chance he may have had, however, was foiled when Tariq reminded him that he was already involved with Charlie.
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==Steve==
===Steve and Kate===
''See [[#Kate and Steve|Kate and Steve]]''
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==Julia==
===Julia and Tariq===
''See [[#Tariq and Julia|Tariq and Julia]]''
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===Julia and Gavin===
''See [[#Gavin and Julia|Gavin and Julia]]''
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===Julia and Rupert===
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[[Image:KM204-JuliaInLove.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Julia gushes about her new love.]]
Julia first told the world about her new love interest in her video, [[Can You Keep a Secret?]] However, she would not reveal his name. A few weeks later, Charlie [[Precious Blood: 12PM|caught her in bed]] with Rupert Van Helden, and the two confirmed that they were seeing each other and very much in love.
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==Lee==
===Lee and Charlie===
''See [[#Charlie and Lee|Charlie and Lee]]''
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===Lee and Sophie===
[[Image:Sophielee.JPG|thumb|right|200px|"Caught up in the moment?."]]
During the treasure hunt to recover Gavin and Tariq's software, Sophie met Lee in the [[Waterloo station - 130PM, 20th November 2007|Waterloo Station]]. Lee claimed that Sophie was "so lovely", and was clearly taken with her. [[St. Paul's Cathedral: 6pm - 22nd November 2007|Later]], Lee left flowers for her, which distracted her while a [[Watcher]] ran off with the next clue in the hunt.
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==Sophie==
===Sophie and Lee===
''See [[#Lee and Sophie|Lee and Sophie]]''

==Alice==
===Alice and Rupert===
[[Image:KM0203-AliceandSophie.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Grrowl.]]
While going over the list of [[Who Killed Kate?|suspects]] in [[Kate]]'s murder with her housemate, Sophie, [[Alice]] commented on the fact that she found [[Rupert Van Heldon|Rupert]] cute and growled seductively when his name was mentioned.
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==Rupert==
===Rupert and Alice===
''See [[#Alice and Rupert|Alice and Rupert]]''
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===Rupert and Julia===
''See [[#Julia and Rupert|Julia and Rupert]]''
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Juuleeya: Sophie and Lee kissing during a livechat during the 12-in-12.

Sophie and Lee kissing during a livechat during the 12-in-12.