http://lg15.com/lgpedia/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Iris2009&feedformat=atomLGPedia - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T11:44:48ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.24.2http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:lonelygirl15/Content&diff=170959Portal:lonelygirl15/Content2016-06-20T20:41:07Z<p>Iris2009: Removed edits reverting back, may need its own portal soon.</p>
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<div><noinclude><center><div style="padding:1ex 1em; border:#aaa 1px solid; width:80%" align="left">'''This is a content subpage for [[Portal:lonelygirl15]].<br><br />
It contains usage information, categories and other content that is not part of the original page.'''</div></center><br />
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==Watch The Show==<br />
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<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0004-Bree3.jpg|none|150px|link=First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season One|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season one of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] :Start at the first video of season one.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 1|List of Videos]] : A full list of season one videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season One|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire first season.<br />
;[[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season One Recap]] : A recap video of the first season.<br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0289-Emma-PMonkey-Huddling-cropped.jpg|none|150px|link=Decision Time]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season Two|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
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Learn more about season two of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[Speak to Me!]] :Start at the first video of season two.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 2|List of Videos]] : A full list of season two videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Two|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire second season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far|lonelygirl15 Season Two Recap]] : A recap video of the second season.<br />
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<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0425-Gina2.jpg|none|150px|link=Drawing in Bed]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season Three|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season three of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[She Lost A Lot Of Blood]] :Start at the first video of season three.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3|List of Videos]] : A full list of season three videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Three|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire third season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season 3 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season Three Recap]] : A recap video of the third season.<br />
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<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Additional Viewing|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
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More ways to watch lonelygirl15.<br />
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; [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ On LG15.com] : View lonelygirl15 on LG15.com<br />
; {{youtube-user|lonelygirl15|On YouTube}} : View lonelygirl15 on YouTube<br />
; [http://revver.com/u/lonelygirl15/ On Revver.com] : View lonelygirl15 on Revver<br />
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__NOTOC__</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:lonelygirl15/Content&diff=170958Portal:lonelygirl15/Content2016-06-20T20:36:48Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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<div><noinclude><center><div style="padding:1ex 1em; border:#aaa 1px solid; width:80%" align="left">'''This is a content subpage for [[Portal:lonelygirl15]].<br><br />
It contains usage information, categories and other content that is not part of the original page.'''</div></center><br />
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[[Category:Content Inclusions|{{PAGENAME}}]]<br></noinclude><br />
<div style="width: 90%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><br />
==Watch The Show==<br />
<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0004-Bree3.jpg|none|150px|link=First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season One|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season one of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] :Start at the first video of season one.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 1|List of Videos]] : A full list of season one videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season One|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire first season.<br />
;[[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season One Recap]] : A recap video of the first season.<br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0289-Emma-PMonkey-Huddling-cropped.jpg|none|150px|link=Decision Time]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season Two|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season two of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[Speak to Me!]] :Start at the first video of season two.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 2|List of Videos]] : A full list of season two videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Two|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire second season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far|lonelygirl15 Season Two Recap]] : A recap video of the second season.<br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0425-Gina2.jpg|none|150px|link=Drawing in Bed]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season Three|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season three of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[She Lost A Lot Of Blood]] :Start at the first video of season three.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3|List of Videos]] : A full list of season three videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Three|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire third season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season 3 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season Three Recap]] : A recap video of the third season.<br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0548-BreeSpeaks.jpg|none|150px|link=Drawing in Bed]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season unknown|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about unknown season of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[Whatever Happened To lonelygirl15?]] :Start at the first video of 2016.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 4|List of Videos]] : A full list of 2016 videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Three|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire third season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season 3 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season Three Recap]] : A recap video of the third season.<br />
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More ways to watch lonelygirl15.<br />
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; [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ On LG15.com] : View lonelygirl15 on LG15.com<br />
; {{youtube-user|lonelygirl15|On YouTube}} : View lonelygirl15 on YouTube<br />
; [http://revver.com/u/lonelygirl15/ On Revver.com] : View lonelygirl15 on Revver<br />
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__NOTOC__</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:lonelygirl15/Content&diff=170957Portal:lonelygirl15/Content2016-06-20T20:26:06Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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<div><noinclude><center><div style="padding:1ex 1em; border:#aaa 1px solid; width:80%" align="left">'''This is a content subpage for [[Portal:lonelygirl15]].<br><br />
It contains usage information, categories and other content that is not part of the original page.'''</div></center><br />
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[[Category:Content Inclusions|{{PAGENAME}}]]<br></noinclude><br />
<div style="width: 90%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><br />
==Watch The Show==<br />
<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0004-Bree3.jpg|none|150px|link=First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season One|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season one of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] :Start at the first video of season one.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 1|List of Videos]] : A full list of season one videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season One|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire first season.<br />
;[[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season One Recap]] : A recap video of the first season.<br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0289-Emma-PMonkey-Huddling-cropped.jpg|none|150px|link=Decision Time]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season Two|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season two of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[Speak to Me!]] :Start at the first video of season two.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 2|List of Videos]] : A full list of season two videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Two|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire second season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far|lonelygirl15 Season Two Recap]] : A recap video of the second season.<br />
</div><br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0425-Gina2.jpg|none|150px|link=Drawing in Bed]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season Three|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season three of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[She Lost A Lot Of Blood]] :Start at the first video of season three.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3|List of Videos]] : A full list of season three videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Three|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire third season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season 3 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season Three Recap]] : A recap video of the third season.<br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0548-BreeSpeaks.jpg|none|150px|link=Drawing in Bed]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season four?|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season three of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[Whatever Happened To lonelygirl15?]] :Start at the first video of season four.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 4|List of Videos]] : A full list of season four videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Three|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire third season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season 3 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season Three Recap]] : A recap video of the third season.<br />
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<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Additional Viewing|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em;"><br />
More ways to watch lonelygirl15.<br />
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; [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ On LG15.com] : View lonelygirl15 on LG15.com<br />
; {{youtube-user|lonelygirl15|On YouTube}} : View lonelygirl15 on YouTube<br />
; [http://revver.com/u/lonelygirl15/ On Revver.com] : View lonelygirl15 on Revver<br />
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__NOTOC__</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:lonelygirl15/Content&diff=170955Portal:lonelygirl15/Content2016-06-20T20:18:41Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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<div><noinclude><center><div style="padding:1ex 1em; border:#aaa 1px solid; width:80%" align="left">'''This is a content subpage for [[Portal:lonelygirl15]].<br><br />
It contains usage information, categories and other content that is not part of the original page.'''</div></center><br />
<br />
[[Category:Content Inclusions|{{PAGENAME}}]]<br></noinclude><br />
<div style="width: 90%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><br />
==Watch The Show==<br />
<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0004-Bree3.jpg|none|150px|link=First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season One|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season one of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] :Start at the first video of season one.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 1|List of Videos]] : A full list of season one videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season One|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire first season.<br />
;[[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season One Recap]] : A recap video of the first season.<br />
</div><br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0289-Emma-PMonkey-Huddling-cropped.jpg|none|150px|link=Decision Time]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season Two|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season two of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[Speak to Me!]] :Start at the first video of season two.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 2|List of Videos]] : A full list of season two videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Two|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire second season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far|lonelygirl15 Season Two Recap]] : A recap video of the second season.<br />
</div><br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0425-Gina2.jpg|none|150px|link=Drawing in Bed]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season Three|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season three of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[She Lost A Lot Of Blood]] :Start at the first video of season three.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 3|List of Videos]] : A full list of season three videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Three|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire third season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season 3 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season Three Recap]] : A recap video of the third season.<br />
</div><br />
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<div style="background-color: #7da8d6; margin-bottom: 1.5em;"><br />
<div style="position: relative; right: -6px; top: -7px;"><div style="float: right; border: #fff 3px solid;"><div style="border: 4px solid #a1c4eb;"><div style="border: 1px solid #fff;">[[Image:0548-BreeSpeaks.jpg|none|150px|link=Drawing in Bed]]</div></div></div></div><br />
<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Season four?|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.4em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;"><br />
Learn more about season three of lonelygirl15.<br />
;[[Whatever Happened To lonelygirl15?]] :Start at the first video of season three.<br />
;[[List of lonelygirl15 videos/Season 4|List of Videos]] : A full list of season four videos.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...#Season Three|The Story]] : A text-based summary of the entire third season.<br />
;[[Lonelygirl15 Season 3 Recap|lonelygirl15 Season Three Recap]] : A recap video of the third season.<br />
</div><br />
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<h3 style="background-color: #194B95; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; font-size:120%; border-bottom: 1px solid #FFFFFF; color:#fff;">{{link|link=lonelygirl15|text=Additional Viewing|color=#FFFFFF}}</h3><br />
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em;"><br />
More ways to watch lonelygirl15.<br />
<br />
; [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ On LG15.com] : View lonelygirl15 on LG15.com<br />
; {{youtube-user|lonelygirl15|On YouTube}} : View lonelygirl15 on YouTube<br />
; [http://revver.com/u/lonelygirl15/ On Revver.com] : View lonelygirl15 on Revver<br />
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<div>[[File:Daniel mobile n.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]On June 19, 2016 [[Daniel]] resurfaced as part of the [[Relaunch of lonelygirl15]]. He revealed his name to be [[Daniel Barlow]] with a social media presence on both [[Snapchat]] (as DanieldBeast) and [[Facebook]][https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012426199152].<br />
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[[File:Y insta.png|thumb|left|250px]]On June 19, 2006 Daniel posted his first Snapstory [https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNmCjR15kzt1XVtWw0X6zalKU0WSVe87UBGP-ZWoMpDNFCPhQeMpmzbE36x96cuag/photo/AF1QipPX9mAQndndxaLTQt7E7Dusc-x-HhrTimOlGOJ-?key=THFPbkRjUExqN0FYZVBEbFJnNXMzeGJKVC03RzBB] and mirrored the post on his Facebook account. On the same day, [[Yousef Abu-Taleb]] posted an instagram pointing to the new Facebook account for his character [https://www.instagram.com/p/BG2P73rj7OB/]<br />
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<div>I'm very amenable to the fanfic page being edited. I appreciate Shiori taking the time to do so. I know that all the editors here are busy.<br />
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However, I humbly suggest that this page doesn't need more information about my series than an acronym...<br />
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If it isn't going to be allowed to remain the way I would prefer it, I'll just nominate it for deletion.<br />
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::Forgot to sign my earlier post[[User:ApotheosisAZ|Apo]] 03:13, 11 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:::Apo I would remind you that this is not a user page and the information does not belong to you and that acts such as repeated reverts..arbitrarary application of deletion tags..and blanking of the page could be considered vandalism. --[[User:LordGreystoke422|LordGreystoke422]] 03:25, 11 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::::LGS422, I merely nominated the page for deletion. I didn't attempt to remove any content.[[User:ApotheosisAZ|Apo]] 03:31, 11 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:::::I understand sir..but I am just reminding you that its not actually your page..that would be your userpage...also..those deletion tags sure look like graffiti to me...I always thought graffiti was vandalism..but then..I thought this whole experience was about inclusion..what was I thinking..Stupid me..DOH...would calling myself stupid be considered name calling? --[[User:LordGreystoke422|LordGreystoke422]] 03:34, 11 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:::::'''STRONG KEEP''' if this is a deletion discussion, that's my vote. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 10:31, 11 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::::::I agree with Milo, especially since the fanfic revamp decided that the series was noteworthy enough to have its own page. That being said, it ''really'' needs to be expanded or I can't see how it would have a place on the Pedia. I for one, wouldn't like to be a n00blet pointed to what seems like a cool series only to find a virtually blank page with an acronym. If that's all you want on the page, we can just add that information to the community videos listing and do away with the page all together.<br />
::::::So, if we're debating whether to delete the page, my vote depends on whether someone's going to expand the page or not. Milo's done well on that front, although it still should probably have some more info. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:38, 11 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::::: Even if the rest of the Pedia burns to the ground this page should remain. [[USer:Mathieas|Mathieas]] 03/09/09<br />
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Keep it!!--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 23:17, 5 March 2009 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Gemma%27s_dog&diff=143490Gemma's dog2008-09-24T17:05:04Z<p>Iris2009: Reverted!</p>
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This is not a critical issue, but something worth discussion. At this point we are 18 months into the lg15 series. There are areas of Lg15 plot which were very important at certain points (like LaRezisto, or Gemma, or Tachyon), that later resolved or become less important. When viewing pages which discuss key character or plot issues (like Gemma, or Spencer, or the Order of Denderah, etc.), I myself find it useful to know when the videos about that subject were released, without having to click on every video link. I think in a chronological way. Thus, I sometimes put video dates into an lgpedia article to let readers easily know when something occurred in the context of the whole storyline. Like, for [[Ted McKinley]] i put it "He first appeared at the press conference filmed in [[What's Going on?]] (Oct. 19, 2007), where he helped ...". That way the reader easily knows, ok, this Ted guy is not relevant to the first year of the show. <br />
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We have no set convention for dealing with this issue that I am aware of, and wondered whether we should set one. I am not saying that every video link needs a date after it like a legal brief would cite cases, but there are articles where it would be useful. (For example, [[The order]] article has them; [[Emma]] does not). Even if we don't come up with any policy, I wanted to raise the issue for people to think about when editing. Thoughts? --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 08:19, 20 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Revamping FanFic ==<br />
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===The "Plan"===<br />
Right now, I think we are faced with a situation where the LGPedia has become overloaded with fan fiction pages and this is a problem. Now, don't get me wrong, I am absolutely '''not''' saying that fan fiction pages on the pedia are bad. Quite the opposite, I'm saying that I think they're good! But with the massive amounts of scattered info we have now, I think we are making it much harder for anyone to really understand what's going on. We also have a lot of extraneous pages, (like video transcripts for obscure series that do not add value to the section on that series) which ultimately only overwhelms anyone who comes here to learn more about a fanfic series.<br />
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So, what I propose is this. I think that we should do a massive cleanup of the fanfic section of the site. I think that instead of treating the section as a free-for-all, we should try to get some sort of streamlined guide to just how each series will be treated.<br />
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'''Type 1''' - These series get a single page similar to the current [[Lonelyjew15]] page. They consist of one page where all the information you'd need to get an understanding of the series is found. The main things that show up on these pages are '''plot summary''', '''character info''', and '''important links''' for watching and following the story more closely. There can be other sections, such as a "Notes" section, but mostly the pages should follow the same general format. The page will serve as a "run-down" to the series it covers.<br />
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'''Type 2''' - Unlike Type 1 series, Type 2 series will all be collected together on one massive page where each series will have its own description. Most of the time the descriptive info on these series is similar to what is contained in a Type 1 series, but to a lesser extent.<br />
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'''Type 3''' - Like with any rule, there can and probably will be exceptions. What would go on these pages would be determined on an "as needed" basis.<br />
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'''Type 4''' - This type covers any major relevant ARGs or series. Since series in this type tend to be complex, they often will require more than one page. [[Cassieiswatching]] and [[redearth88]] are great examples of this. Because of the large-scale undertaking of these series, this type will have to be admin approved before they can go forward.<br />
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'''Type 5''' - There are some series that simply don't belong on the LGPedia at all (adult film entertainment, anyone? :)). These ones do not need pages.<br />
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====Qualifying====<br />
I think each series needs to be examined individually to determine where it best fits within the above types. A strong case should have to be made regarding why any particular series should receive a type of page. Some good reasons would be: number of subscribers, average number of views per video, notibility in the Breeniverse, and many more. Because of this, I believe we should evaluate each series independantly.<br />
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If the idea takes off, I'm happy to create a page where we can discuss statuses for each series. I'm not going to do that now though, because I want to make sure people are on board for the idea first.<br />
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Hopefully you guys like this idea, and hopefully you are on board with it! I truly believe it will do wonders for both getting more editors (who now mostly sit befuddled, wondering how to add such elaborate fanfic pages) and for getting new viewers for fanfic series, as viewers will be less confused when the content is laid out in a neat fashion. Please let me know what you think!!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:57, 21 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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:''Yes, I made a section for comments, this would be too confusing otherwise, lol. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:57, 21 December 2007 (CST)''<br />
::Well, if there's one project to rocket us to 2008, it would be this. Everything above sounds like a great starting point. To clarify, videos ''must'' be fiction, yes, in order to qualify for the above types. They can't just be a LG/KM fan responding, commenting, or spoofing (of course, if they've made themselves into an in-universe fictional character then that's different). I don't know, I just get the feeling that we're going to have to be painstakenly detailed in our discussions in the matter :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:09, 21 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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::Since I've been trying to get rid of the fan-series mess ever since I joined, I of course support this motion, but I'd like rules on series template creation to be included, i.e. whether your "Type 4" series should get their own blog- and other templates, or if they should use stuff like FakeBlog. I don't quite feel like eliminating another dozen uselessly created, outdated fan blog templates.<br />
::It should also be possible to create a Template:FanCharBlock, that simply takes a page and styling options as arguments - so you'd have ''one'' fan-char-block template, and the contents would be located at pages like Redearth88/charblock.<br />
::I do think your typification scale is counterintuitive, though - imo, it should be an ascending or descending scale, e.g.<br />
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::No matter how we name a series's grade, we have to find an acceptable way to rate them that doesn't look like pure arbitrariness to the community...something with hard data, like combined viewcount of the first twenty videos or something, with no chance to be selected before the series reaches at least twenty vids (unless it ends before that).<br />
::Beyond that, I suggest creating a Portal:Community, or use the existing (unused and barely known) [[LGPedia:Community Portal]] page to create a portal similar to the series ones, which only reports about Tier 1/Level 5/Type 4 series - like new Redearth videos released, link to series mainpages and similar things.<br />
::And more or less independent from that, the topic of spoofs that Pheon brought up is interesting...although I agree that mere replies should (of course) not be listed, certain spoofs should at least be collected on a central "LG15 Spoofs" page or something similar (or do we have something like that already?) - because especially milo's recent works are quite funny and deserve long-term exposure.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:07, 21 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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Let me just clarify, this discussion is JUST for fanfic SERIES and how they will be treated on the pedia. Any discussion about what to do about it after the fact is arbitrary at this point, as creating a portal cannot happen unless we have some sort of focus. If we want to create a portal, or any other means of featuring the fanfic AFTER THE FACT, that discussion should take place '''after the fact'''. So let's please not discuss that at this time.<br />
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Also, I agree that there are many notable spoof videos and other notable single videos. I don't really think we need to decide anything definite for that at the moment, because that's not really what this discussion is about. However, I think making a single page where we list all of the videos with some sort of description or whatnot would work. Really though, that's also something we can discuss after the fact if need be, and not what this discussion should focus on.<br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:47, 21 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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Some quick points...<br />
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* I don't really get all this levels and tiers stuff. For one thing it does help new series. If someone starts a new series and wants to make character pages or transcript pages why should they be penalized from doing so just because they are new?<br />
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* Second "Fan Fiction" is a bad catch all category. The accepted industry related term is User Generated Content or (UGC), and while that applies to derivative series it doesn't apply to original series. The distinction in my mind being that a story be dependent on being a user of the site.<br />
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* I think you should really work with theCs and BK on this. There is a upcoming redesign that will effect UGC and the way it's presented and I assume terminology figures into that. I would think it would be logical tha the lgpedia be consistent with that.<br />
--[[User:Immortal1|Immortal1]] 21:50, 21 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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:In reply to your points, in order:<br />
:*The idea is not to "penalize" anybody. The idea is to keep the LGPedia clean. When a new series starts out, there is no sure-fire way of knowing how many hits they'll get, how notable they'll be, whether they'll even stick around, etc. Plenty of times we have people create something on the LGPedia when their series is new, and then stop adding things, which either leaves the burden of keeping a minor series up to date on the LGPedians, or leaves the LGPedia looking messy and incomplete, which is not "good for buisness," if you will. We have also had new series come on and create a lot of pages (some of whom eventually stopped, and the burden was shifted on to LGPedians, often me :() and then they decided they no longer wanted their pages on LGPedia, and asked us to delete all of that hard work. That just seems counter-productive. Instead, what makes sense, at least to me, is when a new series starts, their content can be featured on a smaller scale, and as they progress and we see what happens, we can easily promote the series to a higher level. There is ''nothing'' that says that the "level" or "tier" or whatever term we use is set in stone. Like I said, we are not looking to "penalize" anyone, but to keep things clean and effective from a Pedia standpoint.<br />
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:*The term "fan fiction" is used in this dicussion simply because it is what the "Category" on LGPedia is called and has been since... well, I'd say the dawn of time, but I'm not sure how accurate that is :P. Either way, it is used in this discussion for that reason, and not to disrespect any UGC or other content-creators.<br />
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:*Of course BK and the C's can be in on this discussion. But I wanted to bring it to LGPedia first, as this is, after all, a community site, and when I present the thoughts to BK/C's, I figured it is best to have a solid idea of where the community stands.<br />
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:Hope this clears some stuff up, at least about where I'm coming from! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:14, 21 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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:{{quote|Immortal1|I don't really get all this levels and tiers stuff. For one thing it does help new series. If someone starts a new series and wants to make character pages or transcript pages why should they be penalized from doing so just because they are new?}}<br />
:Counter-question: Why should a "series" that has barely released one episode occupy one episode page, one general description page, two character pages, two "xxx's blog" categories, a general category, a blog template and a character index template?<br />
:Just to add some math to Zoey's reply: We're talking about 9 pages for a "series" of one episode with two characters. If the "series"'s creators then decide to be even more important and add pages for the actors, director and other staff, as well as filmography categories for them, then you're (with only one camera man as staff) at 19 pages for one episode with two characters already.<br />
:And now imagine this: The "series" gets a mere 50 views on youtube, adds a second episode that never gets added to the pedia, and two weeks later, the projects is dead. And we're stuck with 19 meaningless pages, just because somebody made ''one'' video.<br />
:I have said this in the past, but I think I'll have to repeat it: I have no intent to belittle the efforts of the content creating part of the community - but the fact that somebody somewhere made something and declared it to be connected to the Breeniverse does not automatically make it significant enough to be included on LGPedia.<br />
:There is certain stuff that, no matter how much effort and love was invested in it, the general community just doesn't care about. The deciding factors for LGPedia pages are prominence and impact of the page's subject matter - not personal vanity.<br />
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:Just think about it this way: There are [[The party guests|canon characters]] and [[Cameos|actors]] of the official main series that don't have their own pages - if we don't even give every ''canon'' character his own page, why should we add pages for ''non''-canon characters that only five people in the community know so far?<br />
:If a series grows and becomes popular, it is ''inevitable'' to branch it out into multiple pages and categorize it - simply to conquer the growing amount of information. But if all information on a series fits on one page with no loss of clarity, then that's a pretty good sign it doesn't need multiple pages.<br />
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:Zoey: Touching that topic, maybe we should assign "series maintainers" for branching out series. i.e. if LeetBlogger15 wants to add separate episode pages for a medium series, we could allow it under the condition that he actively maintains them, and delete them straight away if he doesn't. That way, series of a certain size could branch out without you getting a headache over half-finished pages and dead links. If it looks like crap and the page isn't maintained, it just gets deleted and the creator loses his chance to branch out due to lack of encyclopaedic interest (b/c, if other people had cared for the pages, they'd have fixed them).<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:49, 22 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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'''My response to this whole thing:'''<br />
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I love the idea of categorizing UGC/FanFic like this. Right now, the 'Pedia is a big mess full of barely notable "series" and the characters of that "series." (I have to say - and am sorry to say - that I am responsible with the community for a lot of that clutter.) <br />
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And I love Zoey's original Type 1, Type 2, Type 3, Type 4, and Type 5 ideas. However, I'm a bit confused as to what Type 3 is. Could anyone clear that up for me? What exactly are you talking about by exceptions? Hmm?<br />
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Just some comments/clear community understandings of Type 1... So, what I'm understanding is that Type 1 is a notable video series with more than 4 main characters and at least more than 15 videos. Type 1 series (whether they are Fan Fiction ''or'' User Generated Content) would only get 1 page with a template - however, I'm not liking the current fact that the Type 1 example [[Lonelyjew15]] has a Person template... shouldn't there be like a FanShow template? The sections on the Type 1 series page would include a summary at the top (no section given), a characters section with brief character blurbs and actors if known (Characters and Cast section), a section with the production credits, if available (Production Crew section), and a section with links to where fans could watch the series and if there are any forums about it, etc. (External Links section). They would be in Category:Type 1 fan fiction.<br />
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Now onto Type 2... My understanding is that Type 2 is basically a Type 1 that is not as notable. Basically the same stuff, with less comprehensive information. Right? They would be in Category:Type 2 fan fiction.<br />
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Type 3... I do not understand what a Type 3 is. Could somebody please clear this up for the community? They would be in Category:Type 3 fan fiction.<br />
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Type 4... Major ARGs or fan series that are very notable, such as [[Redearth88]] or [[Cassieiswatching]], would get more than one page with Major character pages, Cast pages, Episode pages, etc. The main series page would be included in Category:Type 4 fan fiction.<br />
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Type 5... tsk tsk. Type 5 doesn't belong on the Pedia. No categories, please.<br />
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About using the Community Portal... Renegade, I like your idea about using the now hardly used Community Portal as sort of a portal for fan fiction. :) Type 4 would get episode pages linked, and it would be noted whenever Type 1, Type 2, or Type 3 released videos (they would just get linked to their YouTube video page, however).<br />
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Comments? Concerns? Questions?<br />
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Thanks,<br />
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:<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 13:07, 23 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:Zoey specifically stated we're not supposed to discuss portals or any other "later" stuff, I think we should respect that. We'll have enough time to do that once we figured out which content is important enough in the first place.<br />
:As for elaborating on the types, my previous table makes it pretty clear, imo: You have one "category" of series that get no coverage at all, simply because they're not notable. The next level gets a single page, with maybe a paragraph or two, giving an overview of the series. The next level still gets only a single page, but more comprehensive information, like a list of episodes and characters, and a general plot outline. The level after that is the "exception" level - these are theoretically on the level before, only big enough for a single page, but for a special reason get the big treatment - [[Lonelygirl362436]] would be such an example. It only has 1 1/2 human characters and three episodes, so it shouldn't get the full set of pages - but it was made by the Creators and had very high prominence in the community, so gets treated like the next and highest level: A full set of pages and categories, akin to the canon series.<br />
:And yes, it'd be possible to create a full set of customizable fan templates to be used, in order to eliminate all the custom saved ones.<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 14:43, 23 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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:::Just to add my input here, I like the idea. Of course, all the details have to be ironed out, and one inherent difficulty with the system is that it is somewhat subjective. To fix this somewhat, I do think ''some'' objective standard should be set (as has been mentioned) like number of views or number of videos in order for a series to reach a certain level/tier. Personally I think view count would be better since having a lot of videos does not necessarily mean that the series is popular. For including videos on the massive "fan fiction" page (or whatever it's called), I think we should be ''fairly'' liberal in what gets added. Obviously, we don't want to be too liberal, but it takes minimal effort to add a short description about a series, and it can provide much-needed publicity for a new series. Maybe we could even split this page up into different types of fanfic series, like ARGs, spoofs (if we include them), spinoffs, etc. This should allow more series to be added without things looking as cluttered. Clearly, then, if we're liberal about this page, we'd be much more conservative about series which get more coverage. Writing an entire page on a series can take some time, and writing transcripts can take a ''long'' time ([[Jonas Conference Call]] anyone?), and there's no point wasting time writing them if no one really cares. Oh, and I like the idea of the customizable fan templates, Renegade. That'll standardize things and remove a lot of clutter. This whole thing is definitely a touchy subject, but I think everyone is handling it well. I hope we reach a good solution because this is something that's needed to be done for a long time now.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:48, 23 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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::::I don't understand why the number of main characters in a show needs to be a factor in deciding whether or not it is worthy of a certain rank/class/type/tier/level/zone/whatever. ItsCassie, anyone? --[[User:Rekidk|Rekidk]] 19:52, 23 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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:::::Nobody ever said it has to be one - it was just part of the example. One new character and three videos is vastly smaller than Maddison Atkins or Redearth are, for example.<br />
:::::First and foremost, "notability" is the important factor. In itscassie's case, video view counts would probably checked, and general community prominence would be tried to assess.<br />
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:53, 23 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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::::::: Ah, okay; I apologize. I misunderstood. The number of characters was just being thrown out as an example, not something set in stone. I agree that notability should be the most important thing in deciding what gets put in what tier. For example, CassieIsWatching, while lacking a large story or many characters, had a HUGE following and a HUGE effect on the Breeniverse (Glenn created OpAphid after seeing CiW, which led to many events in LG15 from Nov. 06 to Mar. 07... Later led to RE88, etc.) --[[User:Rekidk|Rekidk]] 21:06, 23 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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Here's my two cents... I agree that guidelines definitely need to be set up. A great chunk of the "fanfic/UGC/Whatever you want to call it" seems to be the "New Girl" pages. A problem I have seen is that, with the exception of the Flock, the new girls are the most frequently... neglected, for lack of a better word. I'm sure there are other pages that also suffer from this, and we should find a way to condense information in places... <br />
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Credit Categories: The only UGC series that are significant enough to merit categories for filmography, credits, etc. would be OpAphid, Redearth88/MaddisonAtkins, and Cassieiswatching (if said info were ever to be released).<br />
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Response/Stand-Alone Videos: These should be evaluated on an individual basis. Many of these only take up the space of one page (both video and poster) and function fine ([[Deemontreal]], [[breeiswaiting]], etc.)<br />
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Ties to Canon: Videos that fall in the gray territory should also be considered ([[Paulmark18]], [[watchyourjack]], [[Immant]], etc.)<br />
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Cassiemania: Maybe there could be a page of Cassie-spinoffs that could be restricted to one page, (in the way that the "List of New Girls" page is set up.) ([[Cassieresurrection]], [[Frankiswaking]], [[Frankiswaiting@gmail.com]], etc.) (although some may merit more)<br />
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New Girl Mania: Maybe same solution as the one for Cassie listed above? Why have that list of New Girls page AND a stand-alone page? (Again, some may merit more).<br />
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The argument may be made that the level of info given on, say, the [[lonelyjew15]] page isn't enough. Some series have successfully had more information than that and kept it limited to one page ([[TheLadyLazarus]]).<br />
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Wow, that turned out longer than I intended it to. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:21, 24 December 2007 (EST)<br />
:We need to seriously look over [[List of New Girl Candidates|new girls]]. All of their videos are transcribed and treated as a series. I know some of them got expanded into series or are a part of one, but some of them are just random and really don't deserve that much attention. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 16:49, 21 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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==Series Redesign Discussion==<br />
'''This is independent of any discussion regarding tier placement for now, although once we agree on tiers, further discussion should go on here.'''<br />
===Redearth88===<br />
As I was telling Zoey, I want to redesign the base template being used for spin-offs, as I find it repulsive. More on that later. For the time being, though, I've designed [[Redearth88/Sandbox|a semi-decent replacement for the RE88 portal]]. (It needs to be done; I hate how it's being referred to as a portal but looks like a crappy write-up section.) It still needs some work, obviously; I just hashed it together in about 20 minutes. So let me know what you guys think, and feel free to edit away on it.<br />
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''On a related note, we should figure out exactly what will be listed as part of the RE88 portal, and what will be considered wholly separate.'' - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 11:42, 27 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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:I for one love the new look. It looks much less cluttered than the previous one. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:30, 27 February 2008 (EST)<br />
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::I also like the new look. Now we just have to figure out what goes to the MA portal and what goes to the RE88 portal.<br />
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:::Madisson Atkins is not getting its own portal. It is, for all intents and purposes, within the Redearth universe, and will be getting a redesign using the same color scheme. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:50, 17 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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'''Note:''' The new design has been rolled out earlier than expected, since the series shouldn't be impacted by the ongoing revamp, and there was a general consensus (based on people viewing the sandbox and not touching it). - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 14:24, 17 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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===New Series Template and General guidelines for All===<br />
I just gone putting together my [[User:Shiori/Template|redesigned template]] for series that use it. It's not the best in the world, but it resembles what we have currently and sets some important guidelines that have been argued recently, which I really think need to be hashed out now before we set off redesigning things.<br />
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<li>All series should have a summary on the page. No one will find a series valuable if they don't know what it is.<br>(My idea for a standard set for the summary is something of the following, but it's more subjective than this: "It should be explanatory enough that someone with no idea of what any of the series listed here would be able to understand. (i.e. Assume no one has previous knowledge of lonelygirl15 or KateModern.)")</li><br />
<li>Please, for the love of Jehovah, follow these standards: Videos should be listed as direct links to the video, unless they are transcribed. Transcriptions are not recommended, but if they exist, there should be NO direct links to the video in the listing (since they'll have it on the transcript page). In essence, any of the following are a no-no on the listing of videos for a series: <pre>Video name ([external_link])<br />
[[transcript|Video name]] ([external_link])</pre><br />
We want this:<pre>[external_link Video name]<br />
[[transcript|Video name]]</pre><br />
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Keep in mind that the template I designed is meant to be applied to series that will end up in Tiers 3 or 4, but the guidelines should apply to ALL videos for uniformity. Have fun discussing. :) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:26, 27 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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===How, exactly, to handle Tier 4 and 5 series pages===<br />
I think this also should be discussed. Not only is the randomness of the current structure of pages a pet peeve of mine, but it makes no sense.<br />
We've got pages that are the series's name a space and then the content name, we've got series name/content, and we've got content without any series name. I think, considering the more pages we add to the Pedia, the more likely we are to run into naming conflicts, we should put everything (perhaps not characters; that's what a discussion is for) as '''series name/content''', so you'd get stuff like The Flock/Minor Characters. Please discuss, and keep in mind that we've got several classifications of pages to consider:<br />
*Main series pages (these clearly wouldn't need a content clarifier)<br />
*Character pages<br />
*Video pages (if they exist)<br />
*Informational pages<br />
*Actor pages <small>This should only really apply to RE88, but I don't think these need series clarification</small><br />
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:The formal name is "subpages", although we should probably officially activate the subpages feature in the config to get those handy "<< Series name" links. That being said, this sounds like a very good solution to me - you could have LonelyJew15/Characters, LonelyJew15/Videos, LonelyJew15/OpAdolf and whatnot. We would, of course, need some redirects - LonelyJew15/Anne_Frank is not 100% intuitive.<br />
:One thing that bothers me, though, is the "Tier 3" in the section title. As per the definition, Tier 3 pages only get one page. There are no additional pages to discuss. A simple page under "seriesname" is what it is.<br />
:And an exception I'd make are actors...there's no use having a separate LonelyJew15/Jenni_Powell to the normal Jenni_Powell. Jenni Powell is Jenni Powell, Maya Kramer is Maya Kramer, and Amanda Goodfried is Amanda Goodfried. They are not specific to one series.<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:03, 19 March 2008 (CDT)<br />
:::Right you are. It's been so long since we started the revamp, I forgot the tiers. I changed-ed it. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:05, 19 March 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::::Personally I don't like the subpage idea very much. Wikipedia {{wikipedia|WP:SP|doesn't allow subpages}} for "permanent content that is meant to be part of the encyclopedia" (Disallowed uses, number 3), and I think there's good reason. Here are a few I can think of for our case:<br />
::::#Subpages are harder to link to. I don't know about you, but typing out '''<nowiki>[[LonelyJew15/Anne Frank|Anne Frank]]</nowiki>''' instead of just '''<nowiki>[[Anne Frank]]</nowiki>''' seems like a lot more work to me, especially when it must be done for ''every'' link to a page relating to a series.<br />
::::#In many cases, there's no overlap of names. There's only one [[Anne Frank]], [[Rachel]], [[Maddison Atkins]], etc., and if a name ''did'' happen to overlap, we already have ways to deal with that (e.g. {{tl|one other use}}). In the cases where names would overlap (like "List of videos"), I don't see a problem with just using '''Redearth88 list of videos''' (for example), since it's as easy to type (and looks nicer imo) than '''Redearth88/List of videos'''.<br />
::::#Some characters are in more than one series. For example, [[Tachyon]] is in both [[OpAphid]] and [[Redearth88]] (granted, she's named [[Aly Zarin]] in RE88 but it's still the same character). Also, I haven't been following RE88 and MA recently, but if it's true there's going to be (already has been?) overlap between the two, how do we decide how to categorize the characters? Heck, [[War Pylol]] right now is categorized in [[:Category:OpAphid characters]], Category:Maddison Atkins characters, and Category:Redearth characters. Of course, we could decide which series the character is ''most'' a part of, but then we run the risk of making it look like the character is ''only'' part of that series and not any others.<br />
::::#It would make page names inconsistent and confusing. If someone's looking for the page on [[Bree]], they search for "Bree". If they're looking for [[Gregory Atkins]], they search for "Gregory Atkins", not "Maddison Atkins/Gregory Atkins". Of course, redirects are an option (as you say) but why have a redirect when you can just house the page there in the first place without any loss of understanding about what the page is about? And if we end up sticking with the namespace idea for both official series (see [[# Page/Category naming conventions|below]]), that will confuse things even more. 'Cause now I have to type '''LonelyJew15/List of videos''' for the LJ15 videos but '''LG:List of videos''' (or similar) for the LG15 videos. Seems counter-intuitive and confusing to new (and even ol...err, established) editors. Again, we could have redirects, but it'd be much better (imo) to just keep things consistent.<br />
::::My proposal, then, is to use "SeriesName Pagename" for pages like "Characters" and "Videos" and to just use "Pagename" for everything else. (In fact, after thinking through all of this, I kind of still like that idea for the official series as well. Hmmm...) Other thoughts?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 21:16, 19 March 2008 (CDT)<br />
:::::Dang you're persuasive, Jon. But then this brings up Redearth, which was what I was basing this off of. Should we rename all of the Redearth pages that currently use this structure (during the appropriate phase of the revamp, of course.) But should we come up with some standard for a naming convention when pages need to be moved because of conflict? I've seen (video), (character), (Redearth88), (RE88), and (RE88 character) tacked on to the end of pages floating around (I'm not sure all of them were RE88, but it serves as a good example). Standardizing would probably make this easier... - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:56, 19 March 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::::::I agree that we need to standardize. My suggestion would be to avoid making the "tack-ons" series specific, but instead use (character), (video), etc. For example, [[Doctor (Redearth88)]] would be moved to '''Doctor (character)'''. However, in an instance where there would still be a conflict (both [[Jack]] and [[Jack (Secondary Character)]] are characters, for instance), then we would include the series, but not the "character" part of it. So, [[Jack]] would stay where it is and [[Jack (Secondary Character)]] would be moved to '''Jack (lonelygirl15)''', since watchyourjack isn't really lg15. If there was ''still'' overlap, then we'd use both (like "(KateModern character)"). For all of these cases, {{tl|one other use}} should probably be used, if not a disambiguation page. Thoughts?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:01, 1 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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==Character Pages Discussion==<br />
''Okay, so there's been some talk as to the condition of the character pages we have here on the Pedia. Just bring everyone up to speed, here's what's been said so far:''<br />
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:Zoey, I've been pondering this for some time and thought I may as well ask you about it. Why is it that we do an entire "story so far" on every main character page? Wouldn't it be easier to just highlight the big stuff under "background" and pay more attention to keeping up the [[The Story So Far...]]. I mean, it just seems like our character pages are going to be so huge that no one will read the entire thing when we could be using the really good parts of each character background to make a really awesome page for our story so far, plus it would be less work for each character page and more people would actually edit our story so far page instead of it being left for months without any work done to it. I hope that all makes sense as now I'm looking at it and seems quite long, anyway, it's not that big of deal, just thought I'd throw that out there. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:20, 19 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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::I think you have a completely valid point. I've actually been pondering implimenting something to that effect for a long time. The only thing is, I couldn't figure out how to do up the characters' pages so that this would work. Do you have any ideas... maybe a mockup of a page idea so I (and others) can kind of get a better idea of what exactly you have in mind? I'd love to see it! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:55, 10 March 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:OK, this is proving harder than I had thought it would be. It's difficult to decide what to do with it. Maybe we should start a discussion or something to get other people's input because I really do think it would be better to have the character pages be shorter, but I don't know where to start! By the way I'm not going to be able to do quite as much editing as I have been because people at work are getting suspicious. :( [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:07, 10 March 2008 (CDT)<br />
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So yeah -- thoughts, people? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:38, 11 March 2008 (CDT)<br />
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Well, first I think we should get rid of any sections that are covered in other places (ie: Daniels relationship section and Jonas's fan activity section) and just put links to them at the bottom with the theory links. EDIT: I have made a fake Daniel page [[User:Nancypants/sandbox|here]] so if anyone has ideas please feel free to mess around and change things, it's just my sandbox. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 20:36, 13 March 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:Now that I've had time to look over the proposed page, I must say, I like it! - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:54, 12 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::I rather like the page too! I think it needs to be fleshed out in some parts (don't ask me where! if I could put my finger on it, I'd totally tell you! lol)... I just feel like it's a bit bare... but really... it's SO on the right track! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:03, 21 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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== Written policies needed: Disputing edits & commenting etiquette ==<br />
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On [[LGPedia talk:Deletion Policy#Lesser Deletion Policy|two]] [[Talk:Recovered Memory#a + b = c|occasions]] in the past two weeks, the way we deal with disputed edits came into question. '''As such, I feel it is necessary to, once and for all, write an official policy on how to correctly oppose a revision, and how each side has to behave.''' This policy ''has'' to be signed and endorsed by the administration, in order to give it the necessary authority.<br />
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'''My POV:'''<br><br />
In my opinion, the commonly accepted, now disputed policy is the only practical and logical one: ''Do what the majority wants.''<br><br />
The main question of the disputes was, whether to leave the disputed edit standing and have the disputing side argue why it should be reverted, or to revert to the original version and discuss the changes. In my opinion, it is obvious the latter has to be done, due to the following reasoning:<br />
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Let us first take a look at how an edit can commonly turn out:<br />
#The edit is made, and nobody disputes it. This suggests the community agrees with the edit.<br />
#The edit is made, and somebody reverts it.<br />
##In the discussion following, the community agrees with the edit, and the change is reinstated.<br />
##In the discussion following, the community disagrees with the edit, and the revert is upheld.<br />
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The important part for my reasoning is #1 - no dispute. A certain state of a page can only exist if nobody disputed it. Thus, by the very logic of the concept of community based editing, the original version of the page, the one that is being edited, is a version that was accepted as "usable", "okay" or "fitting" by the community in the past, up to the point until the disputed change was made. The original version can thus be assumed as a ''community accepted revision'', in the sense that the ''majority'' of the community saw no reason to change it, or at least saw no reason to propose the disputed change.<br />
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Now let us watch how a dispute would go under the different systems:<br />
{|style="border: 1px solid #bbbbbb; background-color: #FAFAFA;"<br />
!style="background: #B8D1EF;"|Common process<br />
!style="background: #B8D1EF;"|Proposed process<br />
|-<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|green|Community Accepted Revision}}''<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|green|Community Accepted Revision}}''<br />
|-<br />
|An edit is made<br />
|An edit is made<br />
|-<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|red|Unverified Revision}}''<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|red|Unverified Revision}}''<br />
|-<br />
|The edit gets reverted<br />
|Somebody disputes the edit on a talk page, explaining why it is not a valid contribution to the page, but is not allowed to revert.<br />
|-<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|green|Community Accepted Revision}}''<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|red|Unverified Revision}}''<br />
|-<br />
|The editor disputes the revert on a talk page, outlining why his change should be committed, but is not allowed to revert.<br />
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|-<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|green|Community Accepted Revision}}''<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|red|Unverified Revision}}''<br />
|-<br />
|Discussion<br />
|Discussion<br />
|-<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|green|Community Accepted Revision}}''<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|red|Unverified Revision}}''<br />
|-<br />
|Decision of the majority - either commit the change, or leave as is.<br />
|Decision of the majority - accept new revision, or revert.<br />
|-<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|green|Community Accepted Revision}}''<br />
|style="background: #EAEAEA;"|''Page status: {{color|green|Community Accepted Revision}}''<br />
|}<br />
At first, the processes seems very similar, and the proposed process, as QtheC put it, "encourages addition of content and pushes the discussion toward justifying removal, rather than justifying addition.". However, this does not take into account two very important facts:<br />
#'''The revision status during discussion.'''<br>As visible above, during the discussion in the common process, the page is always held on a community accepted revision, whereas, in the new process, the page stays on the disputed status. In other words, during the common process, the page stays in a revision that nobody in the community but the editor deems "wrong" in any way, while, in the new process, the page stays in a revision that the community has not verified yet, and, in fact, got disputed immediately after it was submitted.<br />
#'''Valuing addition higher than removal.'''<br>This is simply ''wrong''. There is no reason to assume that an addition is always better than a removal. Removing confusing, incorrect or otherwise irrelevant content can clear up and improve a page considerably, while adding only marginally related, badly formatted or phrased or even irrelevant content can confuse readers and significantly diminish a page's quality.<br>What should be evaluated is the ''change'' itself, not whether the nature of the change was an addition or removal. LGPedia does ''not'' per se advocate addition of content. It advocates ''improvement'' of content. In most cases, this means addition, yes. But it can very well mean removal, and it is ludicrous to assume that an addition is by default better than a removal.<br />
To return to the process:<br />
*In the common process, the community accepted revision is upheld, the community discusses a change to the community accepted revision, and, by this discussion, creates a new community accepted revision - be it one that includes the proposed change, or one that expressedly excludes it.<br />
*In the proposed process, the rogue user's unverified revision is upheld, and the community has to live with an actively disputed revision until it proves that it really, really doesn't like this change.<br />
What does this mean practically? <br />
#It is reasonable to assume that the community accepted revision has a certain standard: It has a certain level of visual appeal, the phrasing is alright, and so on. The unverified revision may have been disputed exactly because that is ''not'' the case. In the common process, the community accepted, regularly patrolled page stays out for everyone to see. In the proposed process, the potentially erroneous and typo-laden revision stays out for everyone to see.<br />
#Significant changes could be forced upon the community. Take my proposed [[User:Renegade/Portal:Lonelygirl15|Portal:Lonelygirl15 redesign]], for example. Following the new process, I could simply install it and ''the entire rest of the community'' would have to justify reverting the change, instead of just reverting it and telling me "we did not approve this yet, kthx". Now, I like to think that my portal redesign is not all that bad, but remember that this policy is for everyone - by tomorrow, you could find yourself arguing about a horrible 1995-looking table-based layout that includes the entire plot of lonelygirl15 on the [[Main Page]].<br>And you couldn't just revert it. Policy would say you'd have to discuss the revert first.<br />
#Think of the following question: What if the number of discussing people is rather small? In the common process, if people actually adhered to it instead of edit-waring their revision back in (the person I mean knows exactly who he his), the community accepted revision would be upheld even if there was only one "defender" against the editor. The editor would actively have to show the community backs his change before he could push it through. In the proposed process, one single editor is enough to force a significant change through, and now the "defender" has to go out and inform people the page has been violated and actually has to gather support just to ''return'' to a state that everybody backs. <br />
#Lastly, it is simply a question of common courtesy and "burden of proof" type of thinking - if somebody wants to make a change to a page, that person should be ready to prove that his change is "right" or "makes sense". It should not be required for the majority of the community to go to the talk page and prove the editor wrong, just to get the page they already agreed to back.<br>Community backing for a change should be secured ''before'' the change is made - not afterwards.<br />
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In the end, I can't help but think that the proposed process was proposed exactly ''because'' it allows to force rogue edits down the community's throat - because, one must not forget that the common process does not exist to stop changes - it just requires community backing to make them. In the discussions that spawned these proposals, that community backing was lacking. Several times, it was ''one person'' arguing for several days without support from others, but still trying to force their will upon the entire rest of the communtiy. It is obvious how these users would gain an advantage from the proposed process.<br />
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Let me reiterate this: If someone makes a disputed, reverted edit, and can provide a reasonable explanation for the change, the community ''will'' back him, and the majority ''will'' reinstate the change even if the "defender" is of differing opinion. '''If a change finds support by the majority, the common process does not stop it.''' It just requires the ''undisputed'' revision to stay while the discussion is running, and that the ''change'' is justified, not the ''already accepted'' revision.<br />
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Also note that, in 90% of all cases, consent is automatically given by the fact that nobody disputes an edit. The large majority of edits on LGPedia does not get disputed. No matter how this text sounds on first glance, the common process does ''not'' require every single change to be largely justified. It just requires changes to be justified should they get disputed.<br />
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Independent from this, I would like to have a policy on talk page threads, specifically outlining the following points:<br />
*Indention<br />
*Destruction of other user's posts<br />
The former is something I regularly see in discussions - people seem to be entirely unaware of how to use indention to signify who they're replying to, regularly jumping back to the grandparent level without a note or connection to the grandparent post. This is not only annoying to read, but also destroys the flow of discussion, and thus confuses readers.<br />
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The latter is something platy does, in particular, and something I consider highly inappropriate: Placing replies to sub-points of a comment directly ''inside'' of the original comment.<br><br />
If I have written a post, that is ''my'' post, and nobody has the right to change it except with my consent. It forms a union. Had I wanted to break it up and intermit it with comments, I'd have done that when I wrote it.<br><br />
We have a quote template. Especially I myself have demonstrated in the past how to use it to reply to select subpoints of previous posts. As such, ''there is no justification to alter someone else's post without consent''.<br><br />
I would like the talk page rules to specifically state that replies are to be made in a new, separate, independent post, without modifying the original post.<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:26, 4 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
<small>P.S.: I am aware that I have followed platy's style in the recent discussion(s) - as you can see, I pointed out how impolite and inappropriate his behavior was multiple times, but he didn't listen. I had no other choice but to follow him in order to stay in the discussion, and since my posts had already been violated, it didn't make much difference. Still, I am very displeased with this behavior. My posts are mine and the only people who should be allowed to edit it without my consent are administrators.</small><br />
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:The first point I'd like to make is that things here are and always have been decided by consensus. And while this ''can'' mean majority vote, it should more often be a comprise reached among all the parties involved. For example, instead of viewing an issue such as including a note as a debate between inclusion and exclusion, the discussion really should focus on what aspects of the note are worth including and what aspects are not. If it's the case that no part of the note should be kept, then so be it, but the focus should be '''cooperation toward a common goal'''. If this mindset is adopted, ideally discussions will look more like collaboration than debates. That's not to say there won't be disagreement (obviously in most cases that's why the discussion is taking place), but the driving force behind the discussion should be the desired result, not showing how the other person is wrong. Also, remember to {{wikipedia|WP:FAITH|assume good faith}} when it comes to other editors. Despite what it may seem, there is usually some reasoning behind every edit, so try to find the positive side of someone's contribution and build off of that.<br />
:Secondly, I understand the point about wanting to encourage additions, so I'd like to add my own thoughts about that. As I said above, the goal is to reach a compromise, or a final result that everyone involved is happy with. So, instead of simply removing the edit in question, try ''improving'' it instead. This way, the original editor doesn't feel like their edit was worthless, but the disputer also has the opportunity to fix what they believe is wrong about the change. Again, this doesn't always work, as some additions need to just be completely removed, but it's something to keep in mind.<br />
:In response to the main point of Renegade's post, I completely agree that we need a written policy on this, as this issue has been coming up a lot recently, and the lack of an official policy has made people question what exactly should be done. I have to say that I agree that the edit should stay off the page during the discussion, mainly for the reasons Renegade outlined. If the disputer does not completely revert the edit, but only modifies it, then obviously that new version can stay on the page while the discussion is happening. If, however, an edit war starts between two different versions of an edit (and this has happened before), the original, non-disputed one will be restored until a consensus can be reached on the talk page. Just to clarify, this applies only when the edits are simply going back and forth between versions, rather than gradually improving into a better version. The idea is to prevent senseless edit wars, not to hinder improvement. And just to reiterate, the vast majority of edits do not get disputed, so we're not saying that every edit must be explicitly accepted by the community. If no one contests it, that can be read as implicit consent and we can all go about our lives.<br />
:Finally, concerning the talk page guidelines, that sounds like a good idea. Really, it's just common etiquette, but it's also something people may not be aware of right away. So if we do have such a policy, I think it's necessary to be lenient on newcomers who may not be aware of it, and just issue a friendly warning on the talk page, for example. If it becomes an issue to the extent that someone repeatedly refuses to follow the guidelines, actions would have to be taken, but hopefully we never get to that point.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 01:03, 10 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
::I'm with Jon. It's nice to point out that, in most cases, a revert in order to dispute an addition is ''not'' the best solution. We've been pretty good about making improvements to ambiguous or questionable language when prudent, and adding something about that into the policy might not be a bad idea. The proposed solution would be only when ''it is believed'' that an improvement upon an edit cannot be created and/or the edit should never have been made in the first place.<br />
::I also think we should make a move to limit the people with the ability to use that happy "revert" button to only do so when the edit made is clearly in violation with pre-established guidelines. That'll probably make a lot of people happier. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 09:24, 14 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
:::I haven't had a chance to read this in its entirety yet, but I just wanted to point out that the only people with the rollback button are admins and spam-patrollers --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:53, 21 April 2008 (CDT).<br />
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::::After 17 days, that is all you have to say about this?<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:39, 21 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::::Sooooo....an entire month has passed and the administration unanimously decided to be indecisive and ignore the issue. And yet you complain when there are edit wars. Hypocrites.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 03:37, 4 May 2008 (CDT)<br />
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== Auto-generating EpHeader inside the Blog template ==<br />
I will be the first to admit, this is random. But, at least in my mind, it might actually be a good idea. The [[Template:Blog|Blog template]] can detect whether an episode number is actually a number, and based on that, generate the Epcode or KMEpcode template accordingly. Going along the same principle, why can't we use the same test to auto-generate {{tl|EpHeader}} with the blog template? I, for one, would absolutely ''love'' not having to make sure the episode numbers match between the blog template and the epheader template, as having them NOT match happens probably more than it should.<br><br />
Obviously we would have the epheader template pull the blog name, as well, so we could have the special characters when needed.<br />
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What does everyone else think? I know LGBot and EvilRenegade might hate the suggestion, considering the work they'd have to do... :p<br />
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'''Summary for people who are confused about what I just said:'''<br />
We currently have to do (essentially) {{tl|Blog}}{{tl|EpHeader}} on each episode page. I'm suggesting making it so that you'd only have to do {{tl|Blog}} on an episode page. All with no added user-side parameters! - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:05, 15 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:The current setup is as it is because, in the past, custom intro-paragraphs for episodes were not uncommon. We couldn't check how the headers of each episode looked like, so we just made LGBot add it everywhere so we could move around or remove the template where necessary.<br />
:I believe for KM I included EpHeader from the start, for this exact reason.<br />
:So while I agree it might be easier, all 450+ episodes would have to be checked to be sure it worked.<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:50, 15 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::From what I can see (I only checked out about 50 blogs. I've edited more than that recently to get a pretty good sample size), all of the videos that this would apply to are currently using the EpHeader template. (Well, plus some additional verbage, but that would stay intact. So I can't see a problem. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:57, 15 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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'''Yep. Jon and I got this worked out last night. Discussion closed. :p''' - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:37, 16 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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==Puzzle Revamp==<br />
::''For a more detailed explanation, see [[Talk:Lonelygirl15 puzzles#The Puzzle "Revamp"]]''<br />
I know several people are going to kill me for doing this, but I'm proposing that another "revamp" take place. Please note, it is on a much smaller scale than the one taking place, and is only in reference to puzzles in [[Lonelygirl15]] (including [[OpAphid]] and [[Jumper]]) and [[KateModern]] and how they are organized and represented on the pedia. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 18:54, 19 April 2008 (EST)<br />
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:::For one, afaik, Jumper is not canon. At least we made very sure to limit its display on LGPedia. And for two, the only thing I constantly thought during reading both pages was "wtf?".<br />
:::Why do you want this? What purpose does it serve? Why forcefully limit the amount of space a puzzle can have?<br />
:::For one, UGC puzzles fall under the general UGC Tier system. If you're not Tier 4 or higher, you can't even make a separate puzzle page anyway. So the only puzzles we're really talking about are OpAphid, LG15 and similar ones.<br />
:::And these are finite.<br />
:::The UGC revamp had to happen because any series keeps growing and growing and growing, and if a series is featured, it sucks when the pages are not up to date, and if a series is not all that notable, it sucks when it takes up more and more space. This does not apply to puzzles. Puzzles are over when they're over, and there are only two possibilities - either you covered them completely with both puzzle and solution, or you didn't. They don't grow after complete coverage. As such, there is no need to limit their expansion.<br />
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:::Series that are not notable do not get to create puzzle pages in the first place. Series that do get to create puzzle pages cannot expand them beyond "everything". Either a puzzle is covered completely, or it is not. There is no middle ground. If puzzles are so small they can be grouped on a single page, but aren't, this can be fixed as part of the normal pedia procedure, without a grand revamp.<br />
:::As such, I, personally, think this revamp is unnecessary and unrealistic.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 07:18, 21 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
From what I understand, the proposition only affects series that would already merit puzzle pages? Is this correct? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 10:50, 21 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
:That is correct. This only affects puzzles for Lonelygirl15, KateModern, and OpAphid. (Jumper falls into a gray area, so I'm not exactly sure what to label it). Renegade is correct in that UGC series follow the guildlines set up by the revamp (i.e. Redearth88, Maddison Atkins. The Coalition, etc. are not part of the discussion. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:56 21 April 2008 (EST)<br />
::EDIT: I just read Renegade's message again. The problem is that some puzzles are small enough to be lumped together in one page, and some have more info. This is evident simply by viewing the [[Lonelygirl15 puzzles]] page. I admit, "Revamp" is probably the wrong word to use. Analysis maybe? Whatever the word, it looks strange if some puzzles are together on one page, while others have their own page (and if we grant each their own page, some puzzles have barely enough info to merit one. Should there be some index where one can access all the puzzles easily without searching through categories, or what? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 12:33, 21 April 2008 (EST)<br />
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:::But that is exactly my point - either the puzzle description is complete, or not. Some are big enough to need entire pages, some are tiny and can live with a few lines. You cannot just cut down a puzzle description that's a page long - you'll either miss the puzzle, or the solution.<br />
:::And, like I said before, if any of the standalone puzzles don't merit their own pages, they can be put on the collective puzzle page as part of normal pedia operation - no need for a larger project.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:39, 21 April 2008 (CDT)<br />
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== Lowercase letters starting titles of pages ==<br />
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I am a bit confused on this. Why can't a lowercase letter begin the title of a page? I know, technical restrictions, but Wikipedia apparently can do that... Just a thought. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|SilverBULLETx3]] 12:22, 3 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:Long story short, Wikipedia uses a plugin that isn't installed on the LG15 version of the MediaWiki. That's not to say it couldn't be, only that it isn't currently. There was another work-around Wikipedia had at one point, but IIRC, it was some crazy javascript that only worked part of the time. Plus, if you'll notice, all of Wikipedia's pages are still upper-case only, they just have a template that allows the title of the page to appear lowercase. At that point, I think you're more arguing semantics. (Our current blog template will show the title in the text of the page correctly, regardless of formatting.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 00:11, 12 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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==Alternative to revamp proposal==<br />
Seeing as the revamp seems to have fallen through, I'd like to make a proposition. Instead of a tier system, we have the consensus system. Basically, every '''series''' has the opportunity to have a comprehensive single page on the lgpedia. If someone believes that more pages are merited, they can propose it on the article's talk page. However, if the consensus allows for the expansion to occur, there has to be a user (or users) willing to take responsibility for their upkeep. Please keep in mind that this is just a proposal, and some details still have to be hashed out. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13 August 208 (EST)<br />
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::You might want to take this discussion over to Lucy's Balcony so that this page can focus on the actual series that need work on their pages.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 15:30, 13 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:I agree to this, in principle. HOWEVER, I do think we need to set up a minimum requirement for creating new pages, as people did go all willy-nilly last time. We do have a videos/minor series page, and I'd like to continue using it and/or fuse it into the new series page somehow. I'd say we need some requirements like this (and this is just my thoughts on the matter, mind):<br />
:'''In order to justify series page:'''<br />
:1. Series must be "significant" (in the eyes of the community). Generally speaking, this would require:<br />
::a. Series must have x videos (5?) or a serious indication of numerous videos or longevity.<br />
::''or''<br />
::b. Series (or video) was featured on Inside LG15.<br />
:2. Series page must have a justifiable amount of content. No single-sentence pages.<br />
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:We should probably establish minimum guidelines for added pages, as well, but I figured having guidelines that people can agree to before creating pages would help out in the long run. I guess what I'm looking for is people to expand or argue my proposed rules. We do really need something, but they shouldn't be arbitrary like they were before. More objective, less subjective. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:50, 31 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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=Change the Editing Warning Message=<br />
When editing on the LGPedia, the current message reads:<br />
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"Please note that all contributions to LGPedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here.<br />
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource (see [[LGPedia:Copyrights|Project:Copyrights]] for details). '''DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!'''"<br />
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I propose we replace this message with this improved version, with a less threatening, more respectful and more welcoming tone:<br />
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"Please note that all contributions to LGPedia may be edited by other users in a collaborative fashion. By adding content, you are asserting that it is your own work, that you have permission and have acknowledged the work of others by giving credit, or that it has been copied from a public domain or similar free resource (see [[LGPedia:Copyrights|Project:Copyrights]] for details). '''DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!'''"<br />
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::: Definitely more diplomatic. One of the problems with a pedia is that people do get upset when their contribution is deleted. Perhaps you could add something that addresses the more emotional issues regarding working on a pedia because ultimately most problems arise from "hurt feeling" rather than substantive facts. Never underestimate the importance of the "touchy feely" part of the equation which is what I think the original post was trying to do in a rather poorly worded statement.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 15:22, 29 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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== All introductions on lonelygirl15 video pages are gone!!! ==<br />
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We no longer have the whole "''name of video'' is the #th video in the lonelygirl15 video series. It is also the #th video in season #." I think something got messed up with Template:Blog, anyone wanna go check it out? I'm bad with HTML editing and stuff, so I can't fix anything. Just thought I'd bring it to the community's attention! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|SilverBULLETx3]] 00:42, 30 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:Fixed. There was some funky coding I hadn't realized needed to be removed from the EpHeader template when I added in the Resistance part of it. (It really wasn't ''that'' big of a deal, though... The exclamation points made me giggle.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:39, 31 August 2008 (CDT)<br />
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=Banning users from editing certain pages?=<br />
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I see Broken Kid has been editing a number of the pages that relate to the crew of the new show, and protecting them, i.e., notations say "EQAL-specific (not show-specific) info is locked for editing so that EQAL.com becomes official source of information." Edits appear to include the removal of pictures and other selected information about these persons. Now, I'm not the most active person on the LGPedia, but I do keep track of it generally. Was this change discussed at all, and if not (or even if so), what do people think about it? Locking numerous pages from editing makes LGPedia something different than a place to "give the fan community a place to collect information about the project," as the main page currently says. The possiblity of this happening is always a concern with a fan-wiki hosted on an official site, I guess. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 12:58, 7 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::This isn't so much banning users as locking pages for EQAL staff and cast/crew. I've been asked to lock these so that the users or the company can make sure the information on these pages represents what the user wants. The only information that has been removed so far are pictures that they did not supply, ages/birthdates, and personal myspace page links. Because these pages are indexed and found via search engines, people have complained about the inclusion of information they don't want associated with their work on EQAL shows. So these are being updated, and admins can keep those pages updated. [[User:Broken Kid|Broken Kid]] 13:09, 7 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:::Thanks for the quick explanation, BK. I didn't mean users are being banned, just banned from editing these pages. Even though I understand the rationale here, it seems like some policy needs to be put somewhere to explain that these pages are not subject to user edits. That's important, because one of the primary theories of a wiki is that it improves with collaborative input of an entire community. So, you can expect pages to be full of information, but not always 100% accurate or logical at any one time. On the other hand, pages that are not edited by community collaboration can be taken by readers to be "official information", and thus interpreted in that light as EQAL's official position. There are tons of pages on the LGPedia which are written in ways very different than they may have been written if done by EQAL staff, but with just as much (if not more) love. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 15:32, 7 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::This is just wrong. <br />
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::EQAL always had the right to make authoritative edits. They have turned LGPedia from a wiki into their private PR machine. What do they think we are... dancing monkeys?<br />
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::I respect their ownership of LG15.com as private property but I have no respect for tyranny. LGPedia has always treated EQAL respectfully but apparently that is not enough. I understand their desire to protect their corporate image but all facts on LGPedia are verified and public information. Exactly what dark secret is EQAL trying to hide?<br />
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::This is censorship. Nothing more, nothing less. Shame on you Greg Goodfried.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 17:00, 7 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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This was posted on [[Inside LG15]] after the above posts:<br />
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"'''Update from the LG15 Universe'''<br />
September 7th, 2008<br />
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As you know, we are preparing for a re-launch of the LG15 website that will include a new homepage (this is live now at LG15.com), the launch of the LG15 social network (holding page is live at LG15.com/theresistance), and a re-designed look/feel for Inside LG15 and the LGPedia to match the rest of the site. We’re really excited about the new social network and the new look/feel. One thing that we are doing as part of this process is to bring as much official information into the LGPedia as possible.<br />
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From the very beginning we created the LGPedia to be the #1 source for information about the LG15 universe and we chose to use wiki software so that it could be edited and improved by the fans. Thanks to the tireless efforts of Zoey and other contributors the LGPedia has flourished. It’s truly amazing. What we’d like to do going forward is to provide as much official graphics and information as possible so that the LGPedia is up-to-date and as thorough and exhaustive of a resource as it can possibly be. Additionally, we’ve had requests from cast and crew members and EQAL employees to put some guidelines in place concerning the inclusion of their personal information in the LGPedia. We really need to respect people’s privacy and thought this was a fair request. With this in mind Broken Kid is in the process of placing certain pages under administrator-only control so that we can protect people’s privacy and provide accurate information. These pages include all the cast, crew, and EQAL employee pages, and anything that refers to real people and real events/locations.<br />
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Please understand that the VAST majority of LGpedia will remain 100% community editable, including ALL of the pages and sections that refer to the fictional elements of shows in the LG15 Universe. We’re very excited about the increased profile the LGPedia will be taking within the LG15 universe, including the link on the homepage, and eventually inclusion throughout the site in a more integrated fashion.<br />
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Thanks!<br />
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--[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 20:10, 7 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::Like I said this is a corporate coup by Eqal, Inc. in an attempt to seize control of the fan run LGPedia. They always had the ability to make authoritative edits and their was no need for this change in policy. This is just pure censorship. Nothing more, nothing less. It is supposed to be a fan run wiki, not a public relations mouth piece for Eqal, Inc.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 21:43, 7 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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::Am I allowed to ask why only certain cast and crew members are locked, and others are not? You'll find that [[Jackson Davis]] and [[Alexandra Dreyfus]], for example, are unlocked while [[Marnette Patterson]] and [[Brett Ryback]] are locked. Why? --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 21:54, 9 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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:::I haven't gotten to all of them yet. I still have to get to major actors and KateModern crew. [[User:Broken Kid|Broken Kid]] 08:29, 10 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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As some of you have [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page#Thin.3F noticed] the width of LGPedia has been reduced lately. I queried this on the [http://www.lg15.com/bbsposts/list/2/35/78/1 new forum] and was told that it was given a fixed width in order to fit in with the rest of the site's design. With this fixed width some users such as [http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/Xer0_/?action=view&current=wikiwidth.png myself]see a smaller thiner LGPedia whilst users like modelmotion have a LGpeida that takes over the full length of their screen.<br />
After discussing the possibility of returning it to the way it was a compromise was suggested.<br />
{{quote|Casey|What I think I could do is offer you a variable width "Skin" that you could set in your profile settings.<br />
This would only affect the page if you are logged in. I will have to do some research to determine exactly how to implement this change, so it may take some time. Would this be a suitable fix for those of you who require variable width Wiki'ing?}}<br />
Modelmotion in the thread suggested to Casey that this be discussed on LGPedia but he does not seem interested in discussing it on here. So i decided to post a discussion about it on here if he will not. --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 05:19, 24 September 2008 (CDT)<br />
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That would help if he could fix it up a little--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 12:03, 24 September 2008 (CDT)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Reclaim_My_Identity%3F&diff=143488Reclaim My Identity?2008-09-24T17:02:18Z<p>Iris2009: Reverted</p>
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| caption = Remember this?<br />
| blogger = Jonas<br />
| date = 20080709<br />
| url = {{lg15|642}}<br />
| forumid = 17967<br />
| length = 5:08<br />
| description = I think my dad wanted me to find this.<br />
| location = [[Jonas's house]]<br />
| tags = {{tags|lonelygirl15|lg15|bree|danielbeast|jonastko|resistance|the order|journal|revelation}}<br />
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| execprod = Miles Beckett, Greg Goodfried, and Amanda Goodfried<br />
| serprod = Amanda Goodfried <br />
| pa = Jenni Powell<br />
| directors = Marcello Daciano <br />
| story = Tom Pettit, Blair Singer, Jim Campolongo, and Amanda Goodfried<br />
| vidplay = Jim Campolongo and Amanda Goodfried<br />
| camera = Kevin Schlanser <br />
| editor = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| music supervisor = Seth Jacobs<br />
| song = "To Let Myself Go" by Ane Brun<br />
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| Next = Blood Will Flow<br />
| PreviousB = No Way To Live<br />
| NextB = Handcuffed<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
(''The doors of [[Jonas's house]] are seen and Jonas turns the camera to himself in front of the doors'')<br />
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'''Jonas:''' (''Whistles'') Home sweet home. I have come back to reclaim my identity. (''Laughs'') Whatever that's supposed to mean. But you know what? I do think it's a logical step. Come back to where it all began. My parents' house. My house. My... kingdom. My castle. My... house. My house.<br />
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(''Jonas pushes the door open and the scene cuts to him walking through the house''.)<br />
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'''Jonas:''' I gotta say it's a little weird walking through here again. It's just... all the memories are just... just a lot of memories. You know? This is the place where I grew up. Went through a lot here. Lived here on my own. (''Laughs'') (''Walks into a dark room'') Oh. The library. This is where I first talked to Bree. (''Voice over'') Look familiar? Huh?<br />
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(''Cut to Jonas sitting in the library chair in front of the bookcase'')<br />
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'''Jonas:''' (''With his boxing gloves'') (''Punches while making sound effects'') (''Laughs'') [[My Name Is Jonas]]. Remember that hot little number? (''Chuckles'') God. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I'm just... tryna get the old feel back. Get the old juices flowing. (''Puts gloves on the floor'') Silly, I know, but... (''sighs'') I don't know. It's just... (''looks around'') it's weird. Everything is in the same place as it was. Every book is lined up in the exact same order. Every trophy and trinket is exactly where it belongs. I don't know. Half of me expected the place to be ransacked. Everything gone. I mean, call me crazy, but everywhere I've lived for the last year and a half gets ransacked so I just figured, why not? Right? (''Laughs'') Man, look at this stuff! (''Gets up and walks over to the bookcase'') An old baseball. (''Fades into a shot of Jonas picking up a clock'') My dad's old clock. Thing doesn't even work anymore. I always meant to fix it but I- (''drops a piece of the clock'') Whoops. (''Bends down and picks it up'') I always meant to fix it, I just... never really had the time. (''Sits back down in the chair'') You know? (''Examines the piece he dropped'') Time is always just so... ('''INAUDIBLE'''). Now that's weird. (''Holds piece up'') Looks like a piece of a book was torn out and pasted on here. It says, Reva- Revelation. (''Holds piece up to camera'') Hmm... (''covers camera'')<br />
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(''Cut to a sequence of clips sped up of Jonas looking through various books in his library. He comes to a black book and the clip goes back to normal speed. He puts his arms down, chuckles, and takes a seat again''.)<br />
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'''Jonas:''' (''Holds book up to the camera'') I finally found it! It's the Bible! You know, I don't know why it took me so long to figure that out, right? Revelation, the Bible. But check this out. (''Holds up the open book to where a piece has been cut out'') Look. (''Inserts the piece from the clock in, which is a perfect fit'') Huh. Perfect. And look, I haven't read this yet because I wanted to wait for you guys but the passage is marked, "Revelation 7:11" so... (''sniffs'') here we go. (''Reading the passage from the Bible'') "And all the angels stood about the throne and about the... elders and the four beasts and fell before the throne on their faces and worshiped God." Oh look at this, I didn't even notice this. There's something... there's something written in the margins here. (''Holds book up to camera'') You see that? It says, "[[Elder|Elders]] will fall when the sun rises." (''Pondering'') Elders will fall when the sun rises... what does that mean?<br />
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(''Fade to a shot of Jonas, sped up, sitting with his feet up holding the book and thinking. He slams the book on the table and starts spinning in the chair. He gets up and starts spinning the chair before walking out of the room. A shot of the chair remains still for a few seconds before we see Jonas enter the room again with a picture. Jonas takes a seat and holds up a picture of a rising sun''.)<br />
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'''Jonas:''' This was hanging in my parents' room right above their bed. And that is the sun rising. <br />
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(''Jonas turns the picture around and a book is taped to the back with a [[Resistance]] symbol drawn on the frame. Cut to Jonas holding a little red book''.) <br />
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'''Jonas:''' It turns out this was my dad's journal. I've skimmed through a lot of it and it recounts part of the time he was with the Resistance. The last entry is dated a week before he disappeared and uh... this is what it says. "For it is within my son. Hope resides. When we are gone, he will be the last of the resistance. As long as The Order cannot locate the key, he will be safe for all time." (''Chuckles'') Wow. Um... I'm gonna need to read all of this and- and digest it... and find this key because if The Order wants it so badly then maybe it'll give us some leverage for- for [[Eclipse of the Heart|the eclipse]]. Uh... I'll be in contact soon. (''Covers camera'')<br />
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==Notes==<br />
* This is the first time Jonas's house has been seen since [[Home Sweet Home?]], which was released on October 4, 2007.<br />
* Jonas comments that he is surprised that his house has not been ransacked by The Order. Ironically, when Jonas last visited his house in [[Home Sweet Home?|October]], someone had indeed broken into the house and rummaged through various parts of the house, including the library.<br />
*A clearer translation of the Bible verse that Jonas reads is "All the angels stood around the throne, the elders, and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,"(Revelation 7:11,Holman Christian Standard Bible Translation)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Iris2009&diff=143487User:Iris20092008-09-24T16:57:59Z<p>Iris2009: /* Movies */ -removed dead link.</p>
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<div>'''Do not make personal attacks anywhere in LGPedia.''' Comment on content, not on the contributor. Personal attacks will not help you make a point; they hurt the LGPedia community and deter users from helping create a good encyclopedia on the Lonelygirl15.com website.<br />
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Many LGPedians remove personal attacks on third parties on sight, and although this isn't policy it's often seen as an appropriate reaction to extreme personal abuse. Users have been banned for repeatedly engaging in personal attacks. Abusive edit summaries are particularly ill-regarded.<br />
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<div>Vandel!!!</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Privacy_policy&diff=107371LGPedia:Privacy policy2008-02-29T16:02:49Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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*[[User_talk:Zoey/archive/Apr_07_-_May_07|''April 2007 - May 2007'']].''<br />
*[[User_talk:Zoey/archive/May_07_-_Oct_07|''May 2007 - October 2007'']].''<br />
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== Apologies ==<br />
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I would just like to apologise for the comment i had made earlier.<br />
It was out of line and i shouldn't have done it. That day was my first day of lgpedia editing so i was getting a bit frustrated with all the code.<br />
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Once again I am sorry for making that comment and taking my frustrations out on you. I hope we can put this beside us.<br />
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Happy editing<br />
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[[User:Danielbeast24790|Danielbeast24790]] 01:02, 8 February 2008 (CST) <br><br />
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== What Happened(?) ==<br />
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ugh, where did that question mark come from! its not on myspace. i TRIED to be helpful with moving around the lucasambuca stuff. yech. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:17, 26 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:The question mark is in the officially displayed title below video at [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/?p=407] (and in the title bar); given that that question mark significantly eases page naming, we should be happy about it being there instead of starting an argument about which naming is authoritive.<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:21, 26 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::oh, i'm not trying to start an argument. i'm happy with the ?, i just felt bed for having made edits using the myspace title that had to be revereted --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 10:02, 29 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
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You seem pretty busy since yesterday. I know I'm a huge nub, but is there something I can help you with? Or are you okay? --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 12:06, 30 October 2007 (PST)<br />
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Okay, well I fixed up [whatweird.com]]. I know you're suuuuper busy transcribing and all. But I just wanted to know if you can check it real quick. I'm such a noobie. And I wanted to change the other pages you mentioned, but I just didn't know what to say... Sorry. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 11:41, 2 November 2007 (PST)<br />
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== Your reply requested ==<br />
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See [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony#KMProduction and Sophie Recap vids deleted??]]. Thanks!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:28, 31 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Yay for me ==<br />
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I have created 2 new lg15 video pages in the last week. Is there an easy way to figure out how many edits I have on Lgpedia? I want to award myself for my excellent work. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 13:42, 1 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Why thank, you. 500 sounds pretty measley though, since its taken me over a year to reach that level. What if i changed all references to Daniel to "BeastInCharge" and Bree to "DearlyDepartedSaintBree", I could probably rack up another 1000 right there? I can also liberally add the "K-Team" to random KM vids. Thoughts? --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 13:51, 1 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
==Re:Help?==<br />
I would be happy to help but I have less than an hour left at work which is the only place I have a computer, I will do what I can though and finish the rest on Monday when I come back to work!--[[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]<br />
==Sorry!==<br />
I wish I could help more but I actually have to ''work'' at work, what a bummer! I'm sure on Monday I can get a bunch of it done though! - [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]<br />
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== RE:Headers ==<br />
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Sorry, Zoey, I didn't see your edit summaries or anything. All I saw was no headers and I figured nobody was going to add them, so I went ahead and did so. But if you're saying the template's supposed to be adding them, it's not.<br />
:<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:45, 3 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Oh, okay. But I have a question. The Redearth88 Prologue videos also use Template:Redearth88, so how are we going to distinguish the Redearth88 Prologue headers from the Redearth88 headers? For all of the 40-some prologue videos, it might say something like "'''Insert title here''' is the insert number here-th video in the Redearth88 video series." because it wouldn't know that's a Prologue video. Could we put something in the template, like "Prologue = yes" like we did for Template:Blog with "KM = yes"?<br />
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:49, 3 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Well, I'm always looking for new things to do to help out around here, so I'm actually going to do that right now. :)<br />
:::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:58, 3 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::Oh, okay, thanks for the advice! I wasn't exactly sure how to word it. But for Joel Frady I put MA and Redearth88 because he's in both.<br />
::::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 10:03, 3 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Charlie's Mom==<br />
:Charlie contacts her mom at the end of [[Trait Negative]]. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 16:24, 5 November 2007 (EST)<br />
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==Zoey...==<br />
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I have my link now. Turns out mediawiki was a bitch to try and get online. <br />
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http://fishtacopedia.blogspot.com/ <br />
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thx--[[User:xwestsidex|xwestsidex]] 22:27, 6 November 2007 {PST}<br />
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::Zoey where's my lonelycracks link? Ive been waiting over a week for it. Have you been procrastinating?--[[User:xwestsidex|xwestsidex]] 12:11, 14 November 2007 (PST)<br />
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::Zoey, it is critical that you put my link on the lonelycracks page. This "eat pie" thing is sorta the same thing as "Eat fish taco" in a sense, and everyone needs to be linked to that page. Cmon Zoey. I've been waiting hella long for this, and you told me that you'd do it, what's the holdup?!--[[User:xwestsidex|xwestsidex]] 23:40, 22 November 2007 (PST)<br />
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==Help==<br />
Wow, first of all that westside guy needs a life sooo bad. But anyway, thats not why I'm writing you, I wanted to know if you had an suggestions about how the [[Lonelygirl15]] page should look? I tried to help with the plot/theme part, but didn't know how much to say, I didn't want to say too much as that would belong on the timeline or the story so far...but I also didn't want to say too little. If you have time let me know how you'd like it to look or if there are any sections we should add. Thanks! [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]<br />
:You know, it's a good question. I'm not really sure! It's a tough page because there's so much that ''could'' be included but.. not so much that's not redundant. Bleh, I can think about that and get back to you maybe once I come up with some ideas.<br />
:In the mean time, do you watch KateModern? The KM character pages could almost all use some updates, and you rock at that! I even think the LG15 characters could use just brief updates at the bottoms of their pages with the lastest. Just a thought :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 03:11, 10 November 2007 (CST)<br />
::Unfortunately I couldn't care less about KateModern, lol,I tried to get into it, but tuned out pretty quick so I don't know enough about them to update anything there, but I'll take a look at the LG character pages later! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:13, 12 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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==Sarah==<br />
Sorry about that! I didn't realize it was the same picture, what do you think about this one? [[Image:0321-Sarah.jpg|76px]] For such a pretty girl it's hard to find a good picture of her! I just ''really'' dislike the one we've had for all this time. Let me know, and also, let me know if you have ideas about the LG15 page! {{unsigned|Nancypants}}<br />
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:You know what, I actually took that picture as a possibility to use for her somewhere, but then people told me that she looked like she was going to cry - eep! I'll try looking through the pics, I kind of like the idea of using an "old Sarah" picture since we use the "new Sarah" on her character page and front page anyways... maybe I'll use that one of her with the ice cream XD That's ''totally'' old Sarah. But still... newish. Hmmm...<br />
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:Well, at least until we can find a really good "new Sarah" one that we haven't already used, I think. Wow, have I confused you yet? XD --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 03:09, 10 November 2007 (CST)<br />
::The one up now looks good, also the ice cream one is a good idea, I thought of that before too. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:13, 12 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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==Thank you==<br />
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Thank you for cleaning up vandalism that User 62.220.12.98 left on the page for my character! :)<br />
--[[User:Bubbleteagirl|Bubbleteagirl]] 18:37, 9 November 2007 (CST)<br />
:No problemo, just doin' my job! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 03:09, 10 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Lonelygirl15 ==<br />
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Hey, when you have time, read over the [[Lonelygirl15]] page and tell me what you think. I pretty much told the story, but mostly through links so its a quick read through, you get the gist and if newcomers read it, there aren't spoilers right there on the page. I have no idea what else to do with that page, so...yeah, let me know what you think whenever you have some time! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:16, 16 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Image Redirecting ==<br />
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Omigosh, so sorry! I didn't realize that it was a problem for you. My internet started working a few hours ago and I just wanted to do something....<br />
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Sorry, I won't do it anymore :D<br />
--[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 16 Nov 2007 23:43 (PST)<br />
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:Sure! Always glad to help. Gives me a little experience too, since I'm still trying to figure stuff out. Besides, I haven't been on LG15 since last week. TOO LONG! So, yeah. Hit me.<br />
--[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 17 Nov 2007 00:05 (PST)<br />
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Okay, so I looked over the list and did the simplest thing first: <br />
:* [[Beth]]. Not so hard. I didn't spam the page with images of Beth, because all the available pictures are essentially the same.<br />
:* Then I hit LaRezisto. I basically changed it back to my original version. Of course, I added a few things. But yeah. Look over it as see if it's all right, please.<br />
::* I also changed Jay Laisne's page because it referred to him being LaRezisto, which I couldn't have.<br />
::* Also changed [[Elder]]. Added that KM elder chick. Rewrote the whole rogue elder is LaRezisto thing.<br />
::* Updated Claire's page. <br />
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I dunno, but, shouldn't the rogue Elder have his own page? I mean....I dunno. Just my opinion. I also didn't redirect LaRezisto to Claire's page. 'Cause...that didn't seem logical to me. Maybe I misunderstood. But I didn't do it 'cause LaRezisto is a character within a character. I dunno if I make sense. But the character Claire played the character LaRezisto...<br />
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Okay! Anyway! I'm gonna do some KM transcripts. I hate KM...But I feel kinda bad for them. No one loves them. Pfft. Anyways. I'm off to do that. <br />
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Since I'm not really use to changing big things, I didn't really know what you meant by changing the locations page. What needs changing? Exactly what do you specifically do when changing it? Sorry if I can't figure things out for myself. I need direction :P And the TCC page. I didn't really see what needed updating except for the notes. So...I didn't do that. But yeah. I can help with the location page, all I need is specifications.<br />
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Oh, and I won't be on tomorrow because I go to church. I'll be on around 9PM PST. Kay? I really wish I could be more help, but I'm not :( I'll learn, I hope.<br />
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== Zoey ==<br />
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Hey Zoey I have some screencaps from the "unanswered calls" vid but I have no idea how to edit on here. Please help.<br />
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:Check out [[Special:Upload]] and let me know if you still have any questions :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:44, 24 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Crystal Young ==<br />
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Hey Zoey, I saw you uploaded the Crystal Young picture. May I please inquire as to where you got it from? <br />
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Thanks,<br />
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:Crystal's headshot was forwarded to me by Amanda Goodfried. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:40, 26 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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==About "Tense/Pronouns/Etc"==<br />
Hey Zoey, <br />
I saw that you made an edit to the talk page of that page... not sure what happened? You commented to not post dead links, which I totally understand. Was it me, or Renegade, that posted one? I can't even remember. :-) Take care [[User:Grace2 89|Grace2 89]] 22:00, 29 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Re:Carl ==<br />
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Hey, I added the Cat Hunt part, hopefully it looks OK, but you might want to change the wording a little, I'm glad you liked the updates though! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:40, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Jonas ==<br />
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I finished Jonas and added all the things except I couldn't find or remember what you were talking about when you said to add the stuff about the sandwiches so that's the only thing thats missing [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:24, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Re:Marla Singer ==<br />
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Sorry, I just thought that Marla Singer would fit better. We don't use Clara, we use Clara Stokes. Not Maddison, but Maddison Atkins. Nor do we use Adam, we use Adam Lamar. However, I understand your concern and will gladly stop using Marla Singer's full name for the pure quality of the 'pedia. A timely response on my talk page would be appreciated.<br />
:<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 17:44, 6 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Sarah ==<br />
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Hey Zoey, what do you think about chopping Sarah's page up a little with some other headings like "After Bree" events and "Helping at the Lullaby Project" so it doesn't seem like such a long read. I started to do it but then thought I'd better ask you about it first. Let me know, thanks! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:29, 13 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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==XMas==<br />
Hey, Zoey -- Great stuff with the holiday look at the LG15 Portal!! You should definitely keep them up till the New Years or something! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 12:01, 24 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Jessica Cleanup ==<br />
Done with the Jessica grammar edit as requested on the "ways to help page" --[[User:Surfthetsu|surfthetsu]]<br />
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== KateModern episode numbers ==<br />
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Zoey, I think it would make more sense to have the KateModern episode numbers consistent with the ones on the KM site, which is why I added the recap videos in the first place. If you think they shouldn't be there, I don't really care (you are all-knowing after all), but all of the video pages will need to be renumbered again. Just a heads up. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 13:09, 10 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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'Kay, new question. Should the Season One episode have a number? It's hard to tell without talking to the C's, since all of the recap videos have since been posted on the Bebo page. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 14:55, 10 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== KateModern Character Profiles ==<br />
(I sure hope i'm doing this right... Still kinda new at this..)<br />
I wouldn't mind working on the other characters at all! I was actually looking at all the profiles a couple minutes ago and was in awe at how behind some of them actually are. When I first edited Steve's page, I was a little worried that someone would get angry. Last time I updated a Wikipedia page that was behind (I pretty much just added the character died) I got yelled at by one of the admin... Oh, but now i'm rambling. Anyway, I would LOVE to update the character profiles. As long as someone checks in on the pages sometimes (as sometimes I miss things, as you've seen), I should be fine. =P<br />
Oh, and would you like me to edit Steve's Page (and work on the others) the same way Charlie's page is set up? <br />
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Oh, no no.. Not this Wiki. Happy Medium, I can do. <br />
And no problem. I'm really glad to be helping. =)--[[User:ShadowLilly|ShadowLilly]] 01:45, 2 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Publicity photo categorization ==<br />
I was actually thinking about the photo categorization and stuff. Thing is, with all of the behind-the-scenes photos, it's getting foggy as to what is a publicity still vs. a cast an crew photo. I'm thinking we re-categorize cast and crew photos that aren't being used on cast/crew information pages under the categories Publicity Photos, Behind-the-Scenes, and Video Images. (All would be under cast and crew photos). I dunno, that's just an idea I had. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:19, 16 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:What I did ''for now'', anyway, was I created much-needed behind-the-scenes categories under the cast and crew photo section and divvied up the press section into lonelygirl15 press photos and KateModern press photos. I didn't want to divide it any further until we come up with exactly how we're going to divide it, especially since some of the photos are in-character and some aren't. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:58, 17 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Just wondering ==<br />
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Zoey, I've been pondering this for some time and thought I may as well ask you about it. Why is it that we do an entire "story so far" on every main character page? Wouldn't it be easier to just highlight the big stuff under "background" and pay more attention to keeping up the [[The Story So Far...]]. I mean, it just seems like our character pages are going to be so huge that no one will read the entire thing when we could be using the really good parts of each character background to make a really awesome page for our story so far, plus it would be less work for each character page and more people would actually edit our story so far page instead of it being left for months without any work done to it. I hope that all makes sense as now I'm looking at it and seems quite long, anyway, it's not that big of deal, just thought I'd throw that out there. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:20, 19 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Favor to ask. ==<br />
Hey Zoey, i want the iris2009 page cleared and gone, can you take care of it, i blanked it to pass on to you i want it deleted.<br />
Thanks. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 18:58, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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well, i wanted to try to get iris2009 page into tier 2, no admin besides Jay and Owen and TWj have ever touched it, my fans along with me have cared for the page..all i ask is to keep the 1 page...--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 21:38, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
== Thanks ==<br />
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Thank you, I can't seem to change that page without messing everything up, you can also take out Emma and The story so far. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 20:35, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Iris2009&diff=107203Iris20092008-02-29T02:41:15Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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= Introduction=<br />
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Iris2009 is a [[Revver]] user who has produced in-character video replies in response to [[Bree]] and her saga. In the majority of his videos, Iris2009 shares advice with the the official characters while sharing his own story.<br />
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An example of his in-character exploits can be found in his video {{revver|120414|So I Was Caught}}, in which he explains that he was caught in the backyard of a man who forced him to eat habanero peppers. What was very curious to viewers is the fact that this man looked and sounded very much like Iris2009, leading viewers to speculate that this man was, in fact, Iris2009's brother. In another video, {{revver|130137|Merry Belated Christmas!}}, he offers [[Bree]], [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]] a place to stay. This offer led to more viewer speculation about the accommodations he was actually offering, as earlier in the same video, Iris states that he bought a tent in which to sleep and planned to set it up in a field. Some viewers wondered satirically what the scene would look like if the lg15 characters actually took Iris up on his offer. Some painted an amusing yet uncomfortable image of Daniel, Jonas, and Bree crammed into a 2-man tent with Iris and his habanero peppers.<br />
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For his videos, Iris2009 records himself, which accounts for the unsteady camera work, especially in videos where he is walking and talking. Iris2009 is an earnest fan who has shown determination despite some viewers' reactions. One such example of a seemingly disparaging comment came in reference to his video "I Wanna Tell You Something, Bree..." in which a [[Revver]] user stated that Iris2009's video was "too weird to be official!" This has neither discouraged him nor diminished his eagerness to share his dream of becoming an official part of the lg15 series. Although it is highly improbable that this dream will be fulfilled, Iris2009 continues making videos and responding to the official story. Iris2009 does not hide the fact that he holds fast to his lonelygirl15 dream. In his video "Daniel, Good Job," in which he shows a glimpse of a building that had some similarities to the building that Daniel broke into during [[Breaking And Entering]], it seems unlikely to viewers that this is the same building. However, Iris works hard to imply that this building demonstrates a connection to the official story. <br />
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Allegedly on December 20th, 2006 in a lonelygirl chatroom, he was even observed stating that he would eat habanero peppers until he "makes canon." Nonetheless, Iris2009 is a man on a mission and a man with a dream, continuing to produce his exploits and responses on video while trying to gain the notice of the lg15 producers.<br />
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==Story summary==<br />
In {{revver|119871/flv|So I ditched my car...}} Iris first goes on the run after feeling he is being watched by a watcher. Fast foward to early 2007 when IspyIris2009 puts surveillance footage of him on the internet: {{revver|138525/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 1}} and {{revver|156917/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 2}} In {{revver|172403/flv|I must have missed something...}} Iris reveals that since he was a hacker that maybe it was the gov't who was following him and take it as a compliment but after seeing the surveillance footage of him on the internet, he realizes it wasn't the gov't. after all. Because of the timing he realized it might be about the last system he hacked, which was the warehouse that Daniel found the epogen at. The files were decrypted so he went back to see if he could crack them. In {{revver|177162/flv|TIME TO PLAY!!!}} Iris says he's working on the files but it's apparent things are not right. After the gang was kidnapped Daniel took to the forum to research the drugs they were given. In {{revver|232382/flv|Dear DB}} Iris remembered seeing the drug names from a document in a file he decrypted. The document turned out to be an invoice and he reported back to us. He has other documents but apparently can't make sense of them.<br />
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[http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62804_infinity_122_551lo.JPG Invoice]<br />
(When you go to the image page it has been scaled down to fit your computer screen. Click on it to show it in the original size.)<br />
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I see no reason to keep the page, if its going t be removed. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:16, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:It needs to stay until the end of the revamp process for reference. It's not like we're going to completely shun any and all reference to the series, you know. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:23, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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I disagree, the series videos have been cancelled, even though it is a wiki, i belive that he needs to be removed, tough the series has been around since 06, i belive that its not worthy enough to be on the Pedia.--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:27, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:Since its preliminary tier is 1 anyway, it'll be removed soon enough. Should no one bring forth final objections, it'll be removed as part of Phase 1 of the Fanfic Revamp early next week.<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:38, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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I withdrawing the motion..Im going to fight to get this raised to tier 2. because its a active series..and should not be removed. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 20:16, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Iris2009&diff=107173Talk:Iris20092008-02-29T01:28:06Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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<div>== Notations for deletion ==<br />
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I see no reason to keep the page, if its going t be removed. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:16, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:It needs to stay until the end of the revamp process for reference. It's not like we're going to completely shun any and all reference to the series, you know. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:23, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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I disagree, the series videos have been cancelled, even though it is a wiki, i belive that he needs to be removed, tough the series has been around since 06, i belive that its not worthy enough to be on the Pedia.--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:27, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Iris2009&diff=107172Talk:Iris20092008-02-29T01:27:38Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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<div>== Notations for deletion ==<br />
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I see no reason to keep the page, if its going t be removed. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:16, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:It needs to stay until the end of the revamp process for reference. It's not like we're going to completely shun any and all reference to the series, you know. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:23, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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I disagree, the series videos have been cancelled, even though it is a wiki, i belive that he needs to be removed, tought the series has been around since 06, i belive that its not worthy enough to be on the Pedia.--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:27, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Iris2009&diff=107171Talk:Iris20092008-02-29T01:27:21Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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<div>== Notations for deletion ==<br />
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I see no reason to keep the page, if its going t be removed. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:16, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:It needs to stay until the end of the revamp process for reference. It's not like we're going to completely shun any and all reference to the series, you know. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:23, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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I disagree, the series videos have been cancelled, even though it is a wiki, i belive that he needs to be removed, tought the series has been around since 06, i belive that its not worthy enough to be on the Pedia.</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Iris2009&diff=107155Talk:Iris20092008-02-29T01:16:54Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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== Notations for deletion ==<br />
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I see no reason to keep the page, if its going t be removed. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:16, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Iris2009&diff=107153Iris20092008-02-29T01:15:50Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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= Introduction=<br />
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Iris2009 is a [[Revver]] user who has produced in-character video replies in response to [[Bree]] and her saga. In the majority of his videos, Iris2009 shares advice with the the official characters while sharing his own story.<br />
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An example of his in-character exploits can be found in his video {{revver|120414|So I Was Caught}}, in which he explains that he was caught in the backyard of a man who forced him to eat habanero peppers. What was very curious to viewers is the fact that this man looked and sounded very much like Iris2009, leading viewers to speculate that this man was, in fact, Iris2009's brother. In another video, {{revver|130137|Merry Belated Christmas!}}, he offers [[Bree]], [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]] a place to stay. This offer led to more viewer speculation about the accommodations he was actually offering, as earlier in the same video, Iris states that he bought a tent in which to sleep and planned to set it up in a field. Some viewers wondered satirically what the scene would look like if the lg15 characters actually took Iris up on his offer. Some painted an amusing yet uncomfortable image of Daniel, Jonas, and Bree crammed into a 2-man tent with Iris and his habanero peppers.<br />
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For his videos, Iris2009 records himself, which accounts for the unsteady camera work, especially in videos where he is walking and talking. Iris2009 is an earnest fan who has shown determination despite some viewers' reactions. One such example of a seemingly disparaging comment came in reference to his video "I Wanna Tell You Something, Bree..." in which a [[Revver]] user stated that Iris2009's video was "too weird to be official!" This has neither discouraged him nor diminished his eagerness to share his dream of becoming an official part of the lg15 series. Although it is highly improbable that this dream will be fulfilled, Iris2009 continues making videos and responding to the official story. Iris2009 does not hide the fact that he holds fast to his lonelygirl15 dream. In his video "Daniel, Good Job," in which he shows a glimpse of a building that had some similarities to the building that Daniel broke into during [[Breaking And Entering]], it seems unlikely to viewers that this is the same building. However, Iris works hard to imply that this building demonstrates a connection to the official story. <br />
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Allegedly on December 20th, 2006 in a lonelygirl chatroom, he was even observed stating that he would eat habanero peppers until he "makes canon." Nonetheless, Iris2009 is a man on a mission and a man with a dream, continuing to produce his exploits and responses on video while trying to gain the notice of the lg15 producers.<br />
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==Story summary==<br />
In {{revver|119871/flv|So I ditched my car...}} Iris first goes on the run after feeling he is being watched by a watcher. Fast foward to early 2007 when IspyIris2009 puts surveillance footage of him on the internet: {{revver|138525/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 1}} and {{revver|156917/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 2}} In {{revver|172403/flv|I must have missed something...}} Iris reveals that since he was a hacker that maybe it was the gov't who was following him and take it as a compliment but after seeing the surveillance footage of him on the internet, he realizes it wasn't the gov't. after all. Because of the timing he realized it might be about the last system he hacked, which was the warehouse that Daniel found the epogen at. The files were decrypted so he went back to see if he could crack them. In {{revver|177162/flv|TIME TO PLAY!!!}} Iris says he's working on the files but it's apparent things are not right. After the gang was kidnapped Daniel took to the forum to research the drugs they were given. In {{revver|232382/flv|Dear DB}} Iris remembered seeing the drug names from a document in a file he decrypted. The document turned out to be an invoice and he reported back to us. He has other documents but apparently can't make sense of them.<br />
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[http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62804_infinity_122_551lo.JPG Invoice]<br />
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[[Category: Fan fiction]]</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Iris2009&diff=107150User:Iris20092008-02-29T01:12:43Z<p>Iris2009: fine, we will play by your rules...</p>
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'''''Iris2009 Lives on The LGpedia and has made the privacy patrol and along with many policys that are followed here now....'''''<br><br />
[[LGPedia:Policy Patrol|Click here to read about about all the policys Iris2009 has wrote.]]<br />
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== Favorites ==<br />
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*Favorite LG15 chatroom: All of them<br />
*Favorite LG15 character: Jonas<br />
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== Future Movies ==<br />
''TJ Marsh will be appearing as an extra in the new movie "The Kingdom".''<br><br />
''which comes out in theaters everywhere 28 September 2007 .''<br><br />
''It was filmed in Mesa, Arizona on the Loop 202 and many other locales.''<br><br />
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[http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?theme=minfo&lid=wmv-1000-p.1540965-180764,qtv-56-p.1540957-180764,qtv-100-p.1540958-180764,qtv-300-p.1540959-180764,qtv-700-p.1540960-180764,wmv-56-p.1540961-180764,wmv-100-p.1540962-180764,wmv-300-p.1540963-180764,wmv-700-p.1540964-180764,qtv-28-p.1540957-180764,wmv-28-p.1540961-180764&id=1809740161&f=1809740161&mspid=1809802070&type=t+ The Trailer of "The Kingdom"]<br />
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[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2551199/ Thomas e marsh Jr's Imdb Profile]<br />
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== Links ==<br />
*[http://www.myspace.com/imachampionfriend Iris2009's Myspace]<br />
*[http://nowlive.com/webmastah Nowlive profile]<br />
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[[Category: Chatroom Regulars]]</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Zoey&diff=107140User talk:Zoey2008-02-29T00:58:26Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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<div>===Archives===<br />
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*[[User_talk:Zoey/archive/Apr_07_-_May_07|''April 2007 - May 2007'']].''<br />
*[[User_talk:Zoey/archive/May_07_-_Oct_07|''May 2007 - October 2007'']].''<br />
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== Apologies ==<br />
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I would just like to apologise for the comment i had made earlier.<br />
It was out of line and i shouldn't have done it. That day was my first day of lgpedia editing so i was getting a bit frustrated with all the code.<br />
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Once again I am sorry for making that comment and taking my frustrations out on you. I hope we can put this beside us.<br />
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Happy editing<br />
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[[User:Danielbeast24790|Danielbeast24790]] 01:02, 8 February 2008 (CST) <br><br />
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== What Happened(?) ==<br />
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ugh, where did that question mark come from! its not on myspace. i TRIED to be helpful with moving around the lucasambuca stuff. yech. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:17, 26 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:The question mark is in the officially displayed title below video at [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/?p=407] (and in the title bar); given that that question mark significantly eases page naming, we should be happy about it being there instead of starting an argument about which naming is authoritive.<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:21, 26 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::oh, i'm not trying to start an argument. i'm happy with the ?, i just felt bed for having made edits using the myspace title that had to be revereted --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 10:02, 29 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
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You seem pretty busy since yesterday. I know I'm a huge nub, but is there something I can help you with? Or are you okay? --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 12:06, 30 October 2007 (PST)<br />
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Okay, well I fixed up [whatweird.com]]. I know you're suuuuper busy transcribing and all. But I just wanted to know if you can check it real quick. I'm such a noobie. And I wanted to change the other pages you mentioned, but I just didn't know what to say... Sorry. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 11:41, 2 November 2007 (PST)<br />
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== Your reply requested ==<br />
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See [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony#KMProduction and Sophie Recap vids deleted??]]. Thanks!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:28, 31 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Yay for me ==<br />
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I have created 2 new lg15 video pages in the last week. Is there an easy way to figure out how many edits I have on Lgpedia? I want to award myself for my excellent work. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 13:42, 1 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Why thank, you. 500 sounds pretty measley though, since its taken me over a year to reach that level. What if i changed all references to Daniel to "BeastInCharge" and Bree to "DearlyDepartedSaintBree", I could probably rack up another 1000 right there? I can also liberally add the "K-Team" to random KM vids. Thoughts? --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 13:51, 1 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
==Re:Help?==<br />
I would be happy to help but I have less than an hour left at work which is the only place I have a computer, I will do what I can though and finish the rest on Monday when I come back to work!--[[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]<br />
==Sorry!==<br />
I wish I could help more but I actually have to ''work'' at work, what a bummer! I'm sure on Monday I can get a bunch of it done though! - [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]<br />
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== RE:Headers ==<br />
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Sorry, Zoey, I didn't see your edit summaries or anything. All I saw was no headers and I figured nobody was going to add them, so I went ahead and did so. But if you're saying the template's supposed to be adding them, it's not.<br />
:<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:45, 3 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Oh, okay. But I have a question. The Redearth88 Prologue videos also use Template:Redearth88, so how are we going to distinguish the Redearth88 Prologue headers from the Redearth88 headers? For all of the 40-some prologue videos, it might say something like "'''Insert title here''' is the insert number here-th video in the Redearth88 video series." because it wouldn't know that's a Prologue video. Could we put something in the template, like "Prologue = yes" like we did for Template:Blog with "KM = yes"?<br />
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:49, 3 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Well, I'm always looking for new things to do to help out around here, so I'm actually going to do that right now. :)<br />
:::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:58, 3 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::Oh, okay, thanks for the advice! I wasn't exactly sure how to word it. But for Joel Frady I put MA and Redearth88 because he's in both.<br />
::::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 10:03, 3 November 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Charlie's Mom==<br />
:Charlie contacts her mom at the end of [[Trait Negative]]. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 16:24, 5 November 2007 (EST)<br />
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==Zoey...==<br />
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I have my link now. Turns out mediawiki was a bitch to try and get online. <br />
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http://fishtacopedia.blogspot.com/ <br />
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thx--[[User:xwestsidex|xwestsidex]] 22:27, 6 November 2007 {PST}<br />
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::Zoey where's my lonelycracks link? Ive been waiting over a week for it. Have you been procrastinating?--[[User:xwestsidex|xwestsidex]] 12:11, 14 November 2007 (PST)<br />
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::Zoey, it is critical that you put my link on the lonelycracks page. This "eat pie" thing is sorta the same thing as "Eat fish taco" in a sense, and everyone needs to be linked to that page. Cmon Zoey. I've been waiting hella long for this, and you told me that you'd do it, what's the holdup?!--[[User:xwestsidex|xwestsidex]] 23:40, 22 November 2007 (PST)<br />
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==Help==<br />
Wow, first of all that westside guy needs a life sooo bad. But anyway, thats not why I'm writing you, I wanted to know if you had an suggestions about how the [[Lonelygirl15]] page should look? I tried to help with the plot/theme part, but didn't know how much to say, I didn't want to say too much as that would belong on the timeline or the story so far...but I also didn't want to say too little. If you have time let me know how you'd like it to look or if there are any sections we should add. Thanks! [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]<br />
:You know, it's a good question. I'm not really sure! It's a tough page because there's so much that ''could'' be included but.. not so much that's not redundant. Bleh, I can think about that and get back to you maybe once I come up with some ideas.<br />
:In the mean time, do you watch KateModern? The KM character pages could almost all use some updates, and you rock at that! I even think the LG15 characters could use just brief updates at the bottoms of their pages with the lastest. Just a thought :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 03:11, 10 November 2007 (CST)<br />
::Unfortunately I couldn't care less about KateModern, lol,I tried to get into it, but tuned out pretty quick so I don't know enough about them to update anything there, but I'll take a look at the LG character pages later! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:13, 12 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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==Sarah==<br />
Sorry about that! I didn't realize it was the same picture, what do you think about this one? [[Image:0321-Sarah.jpg|76px]] For such a pretty girl it's hard to find a good picture of her! I just ''really'' dislike the one we've had for all this time. Let me know, and also, let me know if you have ideas about the LG15 page! {{unsigned|Nancypants}}<br />
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:You know what, I actually took that picture as a possibility to use for her somewhere, but then people told me that she looked like she was going to cry - eep! I'll try looking through the pics, I kind of like the idea of using an "old Sarah" picture since we use the "new Sarah" on her character page and front page anyways... maybe I'll use that one of her with the ice cream XD That's ''totally'' old Sarah. But still... newish. Hmmm...<br />
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:Well, at least until we can find a really good "new Sarah" one that we haven't already used, I think. Wow, have I confused you yet? XD --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 03:09, 10 November 2007 (CST)<br />
::The one up now looks good, also the ice cream one is a good idea, I thought of that before too. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:13, 12 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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==Thank you==<br />
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Thank you for cleaning up vandalism that User 62.220.12.98 left on the page for my character! :)<br />
--[[User:Bubbleteagirl|Bubbleteagirl]] 18:37, 9 November 2007 (CST)<br />
:No problemo, just doin' my job! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 03:09, 10 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Lonelygirl15 ==<br />
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Hey, when you have time, read over the [[Lonelygirl15]] page and tell me what you think. I pretty much told the story, but mostly through links so its a quick read through, you get the gist and if newcomers read it, there aren't spoilers right there on the page. I have no idea what else to do with that page, so...yeah, let me know what you think whenever you have some time! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:16, 16 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Image Redirecting ==<br />
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Omigosh, so sorry! I didn't realize that it was a problem for you. My internet started working a few hours ago and I just wanted to do something....<br />
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Sorry, I won't do it anymore :D<br />
--[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 16 Nov 2007 23:43 (PST)<br />
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:Sure! Always glad to help. Gives me a little experience too, since I'm still trying to figure stuff out. Besides, I haven't been on LG15 since last week. TOO LONG! So, yeah. Hit me.<br />
--[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 17 Nov 2007 00:05 (PST)<br />
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Okay, so I looked over the list and did the simplest thing first: <br />
:* [[Beth]]. Not so hard. I didn't spam the page with images of Beth, because all the available pictures are essentially the same.<br />
:* Then I hit LaRezisto. I basically changed it back to my original version. Of course, I added a few things. But yeah. Look over it as see if it's all right, please.<br />
::* I also changed Jay Laisne's page because it referred to him being LaRezisto, which I couldn't have.<br />
::* Also changed [[Elder]]. Added that KM elder chick. Rewrote the whole rogue elder is LaRezisto thing.<br />
::* Updated Claire's page. <br />
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I dunno, but, shouldn't the rogue Elder have his own page? I mean....I dunno. Just my opinion. I also didn't redirect LaRezisto to Claire's page. 'Cause...that didn't seem logical to me. Maybe I misunderstood. But I didn't do it 'cause LaRezisto is a character within a character. I dunno if I make sense. But the character Claire played the character LaRezisto...<br />
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Okay! Anyway! I'm gonna do some KM transcripts. I hate KM...But I feel kinda bad for them. No one loves them. Pfft. Anyways. I'm off to do that. <br />
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Since I'm not really use to changing big things, I didn't really know what you meant by changing the locations page. What needs changing? Exactly what do you specifically do when changing it? Sorry if I can't figure things out for myself. I need direction :P And the TCC page. I didn't really see what needed updating except for the notes. So...I didn't do that. But yeah. I can help with the location page, all I need is specifications.<br />
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Oh, and I won't be on tomorrow because I go to church. I'll be on around 9PM PST. Kay? I really wish I could be more help, but I'm not :( I'll learn, I hope.<br />
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== Zoey ==<br />
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Hey Zoey I have some screencaps from the "unanswered calls" vid but I have no idea how to edit on here. Please help.<br />
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Sheetzjunkie<br />
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:Check out [[Special:Upload]] and let me know if you still have any questions :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:44, 24 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Crystal Young ==<br />
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Hey Zoey, I saw you uploaded the Crystal Young picture. May I please inquire as to where you got it from? <br />
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Thanks,<br />
Surfthetsu<br />
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:Crystal's headshot was forwarded to me by Amanda Goodfried. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:40, 26 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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==About "Tense/Pronouns/Etc"==<br />
Hey Zoey, <br />
I saw that you made an edit to the talk page of that page... not sure what happened? You commented to not post dead links, which I totally understand. Was it me, or Renegade, that posted one? I can't even remember. :-) Take care [[User:Grace2 89|Grace2 89]] 22:00, 29 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Re:Carl ==<br />
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Hey, I added the Cat Hunt part, hopefully it looks OK, but you might want to change the wording a little, I'm glad you liked the updates though! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 15:40, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Jonas ==<br />
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I finished Jonas and added all the things except I couldn't find or remember what you were talking about when you said to add the stuff about the sandwiches so that's the only thing thats missing [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:24, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Re:Marla Singer ==<br />
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Sorry, I just thought that Marla Singer would fit better. We don't use Clara, we use Clara Stokes. Not Maddison, but Maddison Atkins. Nor do we use Adam, we use Adam Lamar. However, I understand your concern and will gladly stop using Marla Singer's full name for the pure quality of the 'pedia. A timely response on my talk page would be appreciated.<br />
:<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 17:44, 6 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Sarah ==<br />
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Hey Zoey, what do you think about chopping Sarah's page up a little with some other headings like "After Bree" events and "Helping at the Lullaby Project" so it doesn't seem like such a long read. I started to do it but then thought I'd better ask you about it first. Let me know, thanks! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:29, 13 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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==XMas==<br />
Hey, Zoey -- Great stuff with the holiday look at the LG15 Portal!! You should definitely keep them up till the New Years or something! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 12:01, 24 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Jessica Cleanup ==<br />
Done with the Jessica grammar edit as requested on the "ways to help page" --[[User:Surfthetsu|surfthetsu]]<br />
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== KateModern episode numbers ==<br />
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Zoey, I think it would make more sense to have the KateModern episode numbers consistent with the ones on the KM site, which is why I added the recap videos in the first place. If you think they shouldn't be there, I don't really care (you are all-knowing after all), but all of the video pages will need to be renumbered again. Just a heads up. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 13:09, 10 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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'Kay, new question. Should the Season One episode have a number? It's hard to tell without talking to the C's, since all of the recap videos have since been posted on the Bebo page. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 14:55, 10 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== KateModern Character Profiles ==<br />
(I sure hope i'm doing this right... Still kinda new at this..)<br />
I wouldn't mind working on the other characters at all! I was actually looking at all the profiles a couple minutes ago and was in awe at how behind some of them actually are. When I first edited Steve's page, I was a little worried that someone would get angry. Last time I updated a Wikipedia page that was behind (I pretty much just added the character died) I got yelled at by one of the admin... Oh, but now i'm rambling. Anyway, I would LOVE to update the character profiles. As long as someone checks in on the pages sometimes (as sometimes I miss things, as you've seen), I should be fine. =P<br />
Oh, and would you like me to edit Steve's Page (and work on the others) the same way Charlie's page is set up? <br />
--[[User:ShadowLilly|ShadowLilly]] 01:35, 2 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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Oh, no no.. Not this Wiki. Happy Medium, I can do. <br />
And no problem. I'm really glad to be helping. =)--[[User:ShadowLilly|ShadowLilly]] 01:45, 2 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Publicity photo categorization ==<br />
I was actually thinking about the photo categorization and stuff. Thing is, with all of the behind-the-scenes photos, it's getting foggy as to what is a publicity still vs. a cast an crew photo. I'm thinking we re-categorize cast and crew photos that aren't being used on cast/crew information pages under the categories Publicity Photos, Behind-the-Scenes, and Video Images. (All would be under cast and crew photos). I dunno, that's just an idea I had. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:19, 16 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:What I did ''for now'', anyway, was I created much-needed behind-the-scenes categories under the cast and crew photo section and divvied up the press section into lonelygirl15 press photos and KateModern press photos. I didn't want to divide it any further until we come up with exactly how we're going to divide it, especially since some of the photos are in-character and some aren't. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:58, 17 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Just wondering ==<br />
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Zoey, I've been pondering this for some time and thought I may as well ask you about it. Why is it that we do an entire "story so far" on every main character page? Wouldn't it be easier to just highlight the big stuff under "background" and pay more attention to keeping up the [[The Story So Far...]]. I mean, it just seems like our character pages are going to be so huge that no one will read the entire thing when we could be using the really good parts of each character background to make a really awesome page for our story so far, plus it would be less work for each character page and more people would actually edit our story so far page instead of it being left for months without any work done to it. I hope that all makes sense as now I'm looking at it and seems quite long, anyway, it's not that big of deal, just thought I'd throw that out there. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:20, 19 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Favor to ask. ==<br />
Hey Zoey, i want the iris2009 page cleared and gone, can you take care of it, i blanked it to pass on to you i want it deleted.<br />
Thanks. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 18:58, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Renegade&diff=107138User talk:Renegade2008-02-29T00:54:24Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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==Thanks==<br />
I just wanted to say thanks to you because I use your userpage constantly to copy templates and the page framework! So yeah, thought I'd let you know it's convenient to me too! [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]<br />
:Thank ''you'' for adding episode pages...otherwise I'd have to do it! XD<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:49, 8 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== recap ==<br />
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LOL, I hated the recap too, but I just wanted to do it the way we've always done it. Sorry!!- [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:56, 12 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== sorry ==<br />
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sorry for whatever I did to the portal, I didn't mean to and actually wasn't aware that I had edited it. I saw the editing conflict but didn't think I did anything else. I'm still not %100 on what I did, but, yeah, sorry. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:26, 13 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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Sorry for saying sorry too much! LoL, just kidding! <3 [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:12, 13 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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==0xxx==<br />
The main reason I've been adding leading zeros to episode numbers is because the general format is four digits, and if you look at the categorized videos by blogger, having them not lead with zeros makes them appear out of order. I was contemplating going through and changing all of the videos to three-digit format, but, as I said, it's standard episode number format, so 90% of the videos already had leading zeros. I edited the template a little while ago to give a little nudge for people to add the zero. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 09:38, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:If you want to change all of the videos out there, be my guest. Like I said, I did see the convenience in organizing it without the leading zero, but I didn't feel like editing several hundred video pages. Have fun with that, if you decide to. :p - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 11:00, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::As a follow-up, it might be a good idea to edit the Epcode template to remove leading zeros as well. Having the regular videos without them and the season two ones giving leading zeros looks a little funky. I'd do it, but the code it kind of "yikes". Up to the challenge? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 13:26, 6 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Re:Fight and Flight - 0001 ==<br />
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The reason I added the zeroes is that there are zeroes in the LG videos. Get my drift? It's not cool to have "lonelygirl15 video 0001" and then just "KateModern video 1." You gotta have consistency. <small>edit:</small> I'm just trying to help.<br />
:<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 12:09, 9 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::Sorry, I didn't realize that it was changed to just lonelygirl15 video 1. It used to be 000#, if you look in the history for some of the videos.<br />
:::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 14:58, 10 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== I am very sorry that I had done on “Theories_About_Characters” ! ==<br />
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I just read your message on my user talk page today .I am very sorry for my carelessness .Thanks for your remind,Renegade.--by [[User:AzukiLotus |Irene (AzukiLotus)]]3rd January 2007<br />
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== Re:Brainwashed ==<br />
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No problem at all, that was ''ALOT'' of spam you cleaned up, you are much appreciated!! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 16:15, 3 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Random Suggestion of the Day ==<br />
I just had an idea, kind of randomly. Would it be possible/worthwhile to try and combine the Epcode and KMEpcode templates? Well, really, I could probably combine them myself. What I was thinking is making the Epcode template so that it could work with any series. Like, make the parameters go something like this:<br />
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<nowiki>{{Epcode|Episode number|Last episode of season 1|Last episode of season 2|etc.,etc.}}</nowiki><br />
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If we could get it to work that way, not only would it be universal, but it would be a world of a lot easier to format for each subsequent season, and we could just put the numbers straight into the blog template. I don't know, I could just be crazy. Just a thought! - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]]<br />
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== Jumper Pages ==<br />
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Well, the whole Jumper thing isn't exactly fanfic. It's pseudo-canon (i.e. videos made by the creators that have ties to the lonelygirl15 story... the only other example I can think of at the moment is Nikki Bower, however, unlike Nikki B, the watchyourjack story is not dependent on the lonelygirl one. Also with whatweird and everything, it has a multilayer plot in it's own right). I think there sould be a separate discussion on how the series should be handled. I'll create one on Lucy's balcony right now. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:42, 24 January 2008 (EST)<br />
:I know I'm planning on trimming them down a bit later today (especially the Character page). I'm not planning on creating any more pages anytime soon (The characters page is actually the Paladins page converted into a list of other characters in the ARC). I know I'm probably annoying a lot of people, I apologize for that. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 09:16, 31 January 2008 (EST)<br />
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== Publicity photo categorization ==<br />
I was actually thinking about the photo categorization and stuff. Thing is, with all of the behind-the-scenes photos, it's getting foggy as to what is a publicity still vs. a cast an crew photo. I'm thinking we re-categorize cast and crew photos that aren't being used on cast/crew information pages under the categories Publicity Photos, Behind-the-Scenes, and Video Images. (All would be under cast and crew photos). I dunno, that's just an idea I had. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:18, 16 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:What I did ''for now'', anyway, was I created much-needed behind-the-scenes categories under the cast and crew photo section and divvied up the press section into lonelygirl15 press photos and KateModern press photos. I didn't want to divide it any further until we come up with exactly how we're going to divide it, especially since some of the photos are in-character and some aren't. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:58, 17 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Character Page images ==<br />
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Hello. i had recently changed the images on the character pages. and now they're reverted back to the old images, i dont know what happened to the images i put there. do you have any idea? <br />
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my question is. that i had changed the images on character pages like daniel, jonas and the others. to match Jennie's page. because the image on her page is a promotional image. i wanted the other pages to have the same type of images. and now they're no longer there. im just wondering if anyone around here knows what happened to them.<br />
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--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 02:42, 17 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Nov. 16th edit 346 ==<br />
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I never got a chance to apologize for saying your edit/opinion was idiotic. I'm terribly sorry about that. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 18:48, 22 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== No! ==<br />
I made the Page, i have taken care of the page. i want MY page i worked on deleted and cleared.--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 18:48, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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Im taking this to the Creators. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 18:54, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Shiori&diff=107136User talk:Shiori2008-02-29T00:51:09Z<p>Iris2009: /* Okay, listen here. */</p>
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<div>Hey there! Let me offer you a belated welcome, and thanks from a fellow LGPedian for all your great work. Also: your caption for [[Jonas Cares]] is absolutely hysterical. :-D ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 15:27, 28 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Theories ==<br />
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Hey, just wanted to tell you all the work you did on the Theories page is '''awesome'''! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:53, 3 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== 0xxx ==<br />
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I didn't say anything so far because I didn't find anything that broke because of it, but...why the hell do you always add a leading zero to the episode numbers? What is the practical purpose of that? -_^<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:35, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:<small>[in reply to [[User talk:Renegade#0xxx]]]</small><br />
:Well, since your note is lacking in [[User:Renegade#Episode Page Framework|my framework]], no wonder I didn't see it. xD (And no, that's not a hint to update it. :P) <br />
:The thing is, with a leading zero, the sorting is messed up as well - everything is filed under "0". Episode 10, 256, 320, they're all in section "0" instead of "1", "2" and "3". I do see your point, but, in my opinion, it's easier to find episode 30 by checking a section "3" than to count down 30 in the "0" section...<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:51, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::<small>[again in reply to [[User talk:Renegade#0xxx]]]</small><br />
::[{{fullurl:Special:Contributions|target=EvilRenegade}} Done] :P<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:20, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=First_Blog_/_Dorkiness_Prevails&curid=12152&diff=90597&oldid=90142 AGAIN??]<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:46, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::::No, I fixed that; I was contemplating changing things to be to the 100th place, but decided against it. The categorization is WAY off now, though. I'm trying to sort by date added, but it's not working too well. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 18:53, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::::It's less off than it was before, and it was less off than before you changed it to sorting by date. Before, everything was ordered under "0", now, at least what's starting with 3 is sorted under "3". It sucks that it leads to 3, 3x, 3xx, but it's still better having all 3s under "3" than having no numeral indication at all.<br />
:::::I'm gonna revert that blog change, btw, because 0+order and numbers+slight inorder ''both'' make more sense than ordering by seemingly random characters. Not to mention that this ordering doesn't create any more order, because it Orders both September 2006 and September 2007 under "S" - not to mention all the stuff that goes into "J".<br />
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:00, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::::::Yeah, I know. Like I said in the change there, it was tentative. Ideally, it would be awesome if we could find someway to sort by date without having the pages categorized under any label at all; maybe year. I don't think that's possible, though, so bah. I mainly only care because it makes finding a person's previous blog a little easier. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:06, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::::::::I find it quite easy to find the previous blog simply by looking at the [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|List of videos]]?<br />
::::::::What we could try is do conditional sorting - iow, change the sort key to automatically change the sort key to "1 - <nowiki>{{{number}}}</nowiki>" "10 - <nowiki>{{{number}}}</nowiki>" "100 - <nowiki>{{{number}}}</nowiki>" and so on. That *should* sort them correctly. {{color|red|Actually, scratch that...that would result in the same ordering as now.}} But please leave the episode numbers alone in the future, it's easier to do such stuff in the template than editing 366 vid pages. ;)<br />
:::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::I think I found why the zeros were there in the first place; I found this on Wikipedia:<br />
::"When trying to sort with ''numbers'' (e.g. wikipedia:Naming conventions (pieces of music)), don't forget to add an extra zero when more than 9 entries in the category are expected; and a second extra zero when more than 99, etc...: <s><nowiki>[[Category:Symphonies by Joseph Haydn|Symphony 13]]</nowiki></s> → <nowiki>[[Category:Symphonies by Joseph Haydn|Symphony 013]]</nowiki> (he wrote 108 symphonies). Categories sort by the first character, so leaving out the preceding zero would cause 10 to be sorted before 2."<br />
::I agree that, assuming we wanted to put them back in, it would be WAY better to do it in the template itself. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:29, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::That is ''kind of'' the reason - the difference is that, in that example, both Symphony 010 and Symphony 002 would correctly be sorted under "S" and then by number - whereas in our case, the sorting "0" is never right in the first place.<br />
:::I think I just had an idea though...I think I semi-hacked the sort key on another wiki to sort everything under the space character (i.e. no sort key is displayed) - if we combine that with automatically generated zero-padding, it should be sorted correctly. Give me a moment to code this up.<br />
:::'''Update:''' I think it's working - only problem is that non-canon vids are "numbered" JONx, for example - I'll have to add a special case for that. But otherwise, I think it's slowly re-ordering itself to the correct order, with no misleading header.<br />
:::'''Update 2:''' Check [[:Category:Jonas's blogs]] - as far as I can see, everything is totally and entirely as it should be. The videos look in order, there is no header, and the pre-canon vids are separated. :)<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::::AWESOME! Should we delete the leading zeros from the KM blogs, too? I'm just wondering for continuity's sake now. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:17, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::::::Well, the same template is used on both, so if KM vids have zeros as well, they'll have to be de-zeroed as well. Don't worry about it, though, I'll have EvilRenegade do it. ;)<br />
:::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:52, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::::::I just ran the bot on the KM vids - that should settle the whole zero-padding issue once and for all. :) I forgot to turn logging on, so there might be one or two vids that fell through because of editing conflicts, but those will be apparent quickly because's sorted wrongly in the categories, and can be fixed manually.<br />
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:07, 6 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::::::::I've edited Epcode just earlier, so I'm not afraid of it - I'm just not sure what you want changed? If you refer to the fact that the seasonal episode numbers are zero-padded, I did that because a unified format of #x### looks better than stuff like "1x1" does. The difference between "Episode 1", "Episode 10" and "Episode 100" makes no difference to our sense of design and symmetry, but "1x1", "1x10" and "1x100" kind of growing a tale looks a little stupid, imo. "Episode 1/1x001" looks far better than "Episode 1/1x1".<br />
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::::::::In the "Episode" part, the leading zeros were useless, 'cause there's no reason to pad the number in what is basically akin to a small sentence - our mind is used to reading "Episode 1", not "Episode 001". But in the episode code, the zeros preserve a unified format, without which the episode code is less readable and looks disorganized.<br />
:::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:32, 6 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== 0x:xx ==<br />
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Déjà vu, much? xD<br><br />
Just wanted to say that things like simple mass replacements, like the removal of leading zeros, can be done much faster and easier by [[User:EvilRenegade|EvilGade]]. So next time just give me a nudge or something. ;)<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 23:56, 10 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== 4 U ==<br />
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{{Hardwork}} I think you deserve this! I was going to put it on your user page but didn't wanna mess it up! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 22:15, 18 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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:Just wanted to say thanks for reverting all that junk earlier today . . . you're an awesome LGPedian, Shiori !! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:08, 1 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== KateModern Renumbering ==<br />
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You're right, the videos do need to be renumbered. However, the way I listed them is the correct way.<br />
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It's not about me being all knowing; it's about me having spoken to the KateModern production team about how they wanted their series represented on LGPedia.<br />
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There are lots of reasons that there can be inconsistancies on the LG15.com numbering and the LGPedia numbering. For instance, [[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] is not listed on the lonelygirl15 section of LG15.com which messes up the numbering, however, I think there is no doubt that this is Bree's first blog. Like I said, the way I listed the videos is consistant with the way KM wants their videos listed, so that's what I'm going to go by.<br />
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You're welcome to help out with the renumbering if you'd like. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:27, 10 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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:Hey, it's not about being in contact with the Creators... they're not even the ones who told me this. It's just a matter of trying to accurately portray the series as the KM Prod. team would like.<br />
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:That being said, I think we should work from the assumption that no recap video should be given an official number if posted from the [[Sophie]] account. In general, I think that lines up with what they want. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:53, 11 January 2008 (CST)<br />
::That works, although The Story So Far... was uploaded there as well, and should probably be numbered. I was apparently wrong about all of the recaps being posted on the Bebo page, so we'll just use only the recaps listed on the KM Bebo page as the ones that should be numbered. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:01, 11 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Tag spaces ==<br />
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#Like I said before, this is the kind of job that the bot can do quickly, easily and flawlessly. There's no need for you to manually go through dozens (or hundreds) of videos if you simply want to replace stuff (and "trait|positive" to "trait positive" ''is'' a replacement).<br>Just ask, and you can save yourself a whole lot of time.<br />
#I was actually holding off that very change for quite some time now, on a simple basis - technically, the tag isn't "trait positive" - it' the tags "trait" and "positive". Just like they're using the tags "hymn", "of" and "one", not "hymn of one".<br>I won't revert it, because, as said, I've been thinking about the same change for quite some time, but I wanted to note that, technically, your change is not correct.<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:41, 23 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Thank you,Shiori! ==<br />
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I just know that you had cleaned up the information I had [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Breeniverse_Timeline&diff=100322&oldid=100321 wrote] [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Bree%27s_parents&diff=next&oldid=100319 yesterday] . <br />
Thank you very much! I am not good at English grammar.--Irene([[User:AzukiLotus|AzukiLotus]])21:20 29th January 2008 (Hong Kong Time)<br />
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== Toyota Aygo Platinum ==<br />
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Hey, I saw you added [[Man on a Mission]] to the list of videos with [[KM Product placement#Toyota Aygo Platinum|product placement]] for the Toyota Aygo Platinum. I'm having a bit of trouble finding it in that video. Would you mind getting a screenshot to put on the page? Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:05, 3 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Userbox ==<br />
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Hey, thanks for adding that spam patrol userbox, I just noticed it, it's awesome! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:52, 5 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Publicity photo categorization ==<br />
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Hey, didn't see you in chat today, so I'll try it this way...Zoey was thinking about categorizing the publicity pictures, with categories like group shots, etc. iirc, you did the Videos with... categorization a few weeks ago quite neatly, and I was wondering if you'd be up for this task?<br><br />
To differentiate them from "normal" categories, you'd probably have to go for stuff like "Publicity photos of Daniel" or something similar, or whatever reasonable system you come up with.<br><br />
How about it?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:16, 16 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Just so you know... ==<br />
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[09:13] <Renegade15> when shiori comes in, tell her she's a pedia junkie<br />
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missed you in chat so passing it along<br />
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== Okay, listen here. ==<br />
I want the page gone, that way, im of the past. let it be blank.<br />
Have zoey delete it..I dont have time to argue about trying to keep it. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 18:51, 28 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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what you dont uderstand im deleteing my page, 1 page..okay. That i want removed from the pedia. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 18:51, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Renegade&diff=107135User talk:Renegade2008-02-29T00:48:38Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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==Thanks==<br />
I just wanted to say thanks to you because I use your userpage constantly to copy templates and the page framework! So yeah, thought I'd let you know it's convenient to me too! [[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]<br />
:Thank ''you'' for adding episode pages...otherwise I'd have to do it! XD<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:49, 8 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== recap ==<br />
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LOL, I hated the recap too, but I just wanted to do it the way we've always done it. Sorry!!- [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:56, 12 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== sorry ==<br />
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sorry for whatever I did to the portal, I didn't mean to and actually wasn't aware that I had edited it. I saw the editing conflict but didn't think I did anything else. I'm still not %100 on what I did, but, yeah, sorry. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:26, 13 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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Sorry for saying sorry too much! LoL, just kidding! <3 [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:12, 13 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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==0xxx==<br />
The main reason I've been adding leading zeros to episode numbers is because the general format is four digits, and if you look at the categorized videos by blogger, having them not lead with zeros makes them appear out of order. I was contemplating going through and changing all of the videos to three-digit format, but, as I said, it's standard episode number format, so 90% of the videos already had leading zeros. I edited the template a little while ago to give a little nudge for people to add the zero. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 09:38, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:If you want to change all of the videos out there, be my guest. Like I said, I did see the convenience in organizing it without the leading zero, but I didn't feel like editing several hundred video pages. Have fun with that, if you decide to. :p - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 11:00, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::As a follow-up, it might be a good idea to edit the Epcode template to remove leading zeros as well. Having the regular videos without them and the season two ones giving leading zeros looks a little funky. I'd do it, but the code it kind of "yikes". Up to the challenge? - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 13:26, 6 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Re:Fight and Flight - 0001 ==<br />
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The reason I added the zeroes is that there are zeroes in the LG videos. Get my drift? It's not cool to have "lonelygirl15 video 0001" and then just "KateModern video 1." You gotta have consistency. <small>edit:</small> I'm just trying to help.<br />
:<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 12:09, 9 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::Sorry, I didn't realize that it was changed to just lonelygirl15 video 1. It used to be 000#, if you look in the history for some of the videos.<br />
:::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 14:58, 10 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== I am very sorry that I had done on “Theories_About_Characters” ! ==<br />
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I just read your message on my user talk page today .I am very sorry for my carelessness .Thanks for your remind,Renegade.--by [[User:AzukiLotus |Irene (AzukiLotus)]]3rd January 2007<br />
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== Re:Brainwashed ==<br />
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No problem at all, that was ''ALOT'' of spam you cleaned up, you are much appreciated!! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 16:15, 3 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Random Suggestion of the Day ==<br />
I just had an idea, kind of randomly. Would it be possible/worthwhile to try and combine the Epcode and KMEpcode templates? Well, really, I could probably combine them myself. What I was thinking is making the Epcode template so that it could work with any series. Like, make the parameters go something like this:<br />
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If we could get it to work that way, not only would it be universal, but it would be a world of a lot easier to format for each subsequent season, and we could just put the numbers straight into the blog template. I don't know, I could just be crazy. Just a thought! - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]]<br />
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== Jumper Pages ==<br />
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Well, the whole Jumper thing isn't exactly fanfic. It's pseudo-canon (i.e. videos made by the creators that have ties to the lonelygirl15 story... the only other example I can think of at the moment is Nikki Bower, however, unlike Nikki B, the watchyourjack story is not dependent on the lonelygirl one. Also with whatweird and everything, it has a multilayer plot in it's own right). I think there sould be a separate discussion on how the series should be handled. I'll create one on Lucy's balcony right now. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:42, 24 January 2008 (EST)<br />
:I know I'm planning on trimming them down a bit later today (especially the Character page). I'm not planning on creating any more pages anytime soon (The characters page is actually the Paladins page converted into a list of other characters in the ARC). I know I'm probably annoying a lot of people, I apologize for that. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 09:16, 31 January 2008 (EST)<br />
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== Publicity photo categorization ==<br />
I was actually thinking about the photo categorization and stuff. Thing is, with all of the behind-the-scenes photos, it's getting foggy as to what is a publicity still vs. a cast an crew photo. I'm thinking we re-categorize cast and crew photos that aren't being used on cast/crew information pages under the categories Publicity Photos, Behind-the-Scenes, and Video Images. (All would be under cast and crew photos). I dunno, that's just an idea I had. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:18, 16 February 2008 (CST)<br />
:What I did ''for now'', anyway, was I created much-needed behind-the-scenes categories under the cast and crew photo section and divvied up the press section into lonelygirl15 press photos and KateModern press photos. I didn't want to divide it any further until we come up with exactly how we're going to divide it, especially since some of the photos are in-character and some aren't. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 07:58, 17 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Character Page images ==<br />
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Hello. i had recently changed the images on the character pages. and now they're reverted back to the old images, i dont know what happened to the images i put there. do you have any idea? <br />
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my question is. that i had changed the images on character pages like daniel, jonas and the others. to match Jennie's page. because the image on her page is a promotional image. i wanted the other pages to have the same type of images. and now they're no longer there. im just wondering if anyone around here knows what happened to them.<br />
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== Nov. 16th edit 346 ==<br />
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I never got a chance to apologize for saying your edit/opinion was idiotic. I'm terribly sorry about that. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 18:48, 22 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== No! ==<br />
I made the Page, i have taken care of the page. i want MY page i worked on deleted and cleared.--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 18:48, 28 February 2008 (CST)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Shiori&diff=107133User talk:Shiori2008-02-29T00:46:15Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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<div>Hey there! Let me offer you a belated welcome, and thanks from a fellow LGPedian for all your great work. Also: your caption for [[Jonas Cares]] is absolutely hysterical. :-D ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 15:27, 28 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Theories ==<br />
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Hey, just wanted to tell you all the work you did on the Theories page is '''awesome'''! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 19:53, 3 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== 0xxx ==<br />
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I didn't say anything so far because I didn't find anything that broke because of it, but...why the hell do you always add a leading zero to the episode numbers? What is the practical purpose of that? -_^<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:35, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:<small>[in reply to [[User talk:Renegade#0xxx]]]</small><br />
:Well, since your note is lacking in [[User:Renegade#Episode Page Framework|my framework]], no wonder I didn't see it. xD (And no, that's not a hint to update it. :P) <br />
:The thing is, with a leading zero, the sorting is messed up as well - everything is filed under "0". Episode 10, 256, 320, they're all in section "0" instead of "1", "2" and "3". I do see your point, but, in my opinion, it's easier to find episode 30 by checking a section "3" than to count down 30 in the "0" section...<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:51, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::<small>[again in reply to [[User talk:Renegade#0xxx]]]</small><br />
::[{{fullurl:Special:Contributions|target=EvilRenegade}} Done] :P<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:20, 4 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=First_Blog_/_Dorkiness_Prevails&curid=12152&diff=90597&oldid=90142 AGAIN??]<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:46, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::::No, I fixed that; I was contemplating changing things to be to the 100th place, but decided against it. The categorization is WAY off now, though. I'm trying to sort by date added, but it's not working too well. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 18:53, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::::It's less off than it was before, and it was less off than before you changed it to sorting by date. Before, everything was ordered under "0", now, at least what's starting with 3 is sorted under "3". It sucks that it leads to 3, 3x, 3xx, but it's still better having all 3s under "3" than having no numeral indication at all.<br />
:::::I'm gonna revert that blog change, btw, because 0+order and numbers+slight inorder ''both'' make more sense than ordering by seemingly random characters. Not to mention that this ordering doesn't create any more order, because it Orders both September 2006 and September 2007 under "S" - not to mention all the stuff that goes into "J".<br />
::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:00, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::::::Yeah, I know. Like I said in the change there, it was tentative. Ideally, it would be awesome if we could find someway to sort by date without having the pages categorized under any label at all; maybe year. I don't think that's possible, though, so bah. I mainly only care because it makes finding a person's previous blog a little easier. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:06, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::::::::I find it quite easy to find the previous blog simply by looking at the [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|List of videos]]?<br />
::::::::What we could try is do conditional sorting - iow, change the sort key to automatically change the sort key to "1 - <nowiki>{{{number}}}</nowiki>" "10 - <nowiki>{{{number}}}</nowiki>" "100 - <nowiki>{{{number}}}</nowiki>" and so on. That *should* sort them correctly. {{color|red|Actually, scratch that...that would result in the same ordering as now.}} But please leave the episode numbers alone in the future, it's easier to do such stuff in the template than editing 366 vid pages. ;)<br />
:::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::I think I found why the zeros were there in the first place; I found this on Wikipedia:<br />
::"When trying to sort with ''numbers'' (e.g. wikipedia:Naming conventions (pieces of music)), don't forget to add an extra zero when more than 9 entries in the category are expected; and a second extra zero when more than 99, etc...: <s><nowiki>[[Category:Symphonies by Joseph Haydn|Symphony 13]]</nowiki></s> → <nowiki>[[Category:Symphonies by Joseph Haydn|Symphony 013]]</nowiki> (he wrote 108 symphonies). Categories sort by the first character, so leaving out the preceding zero would cause 10 to be sorted before 2."<br />
::I agree that, assuming we wanted to put them back in, it would be WAY better to do it in the template itself. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:29, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::That is ''kind of'' the reason - the difference is that, in that example, both Symphony 010 and Symphony 002 would correctly be sorted under "S" and then by number - whereas in our case, the sorting "0" is never right in the first place.<br />
:::I think I just had an idea though...I think I semi-hacked the sort key on another wiki to sort everything under the space character (i.e. no sort key is displayed) - if we combine that with automatically generated zero-padding, it should be sorted correctly. Give me a moment to code this up.<br />
:::'''Update:''' I think it's working - only problem is that non-canon vids are "numbered" JONx, for example - I'll have to add a special case for that. But otherwise, I think it's slowly re-ordering itself to the correct order, with no misleading header.<br />
:::'''Update 2:''' Check [[:Category:Jonas's blogs]] - as far as I can see, everything is totally and entirely as it should be. The videos look in order, there is no header, and the pre-canon vids are separated. :)<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::::AWESOME! Should we delete the leading zeros from the KM blogs, too? I'm just wondering for continuity's sake now. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:17, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::::::Well, the same template is used on both, so if KM vids have zeros as well, they'll have to be de-zeroed as well. Don't worry about it, though, I'll have EvilRenegade do it. ;)<br />
:::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:52, 5 December 2007 (CST)<br />
:::::::I just ran the bot on the KM vids - that should settle the whole zero-padding issue once and for all. :) I forgot to turn logging on, so there might be one or two vids that fell through because of editing conflicts, but those will be apparent quickly because's sorted wrongly in the categories, and can be fixed manually.<br />
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:07, 6 December 2007 (CST)<br />
::::::::I've edited Epcode just earlier, so I'm not afraid of it - I'm just not sure what you want changed? If you refer to the fact that the seasonal episode numbers are zero-padded, I did that because a unified format of #x### looks better than stuff like "1x1" does. The difference between "Episode 1", "Episode 10" and "Episode 100" makes no difference to our sense of design and symmetry, but "1x1", "1x10" and "1x100" kind of growing a tale looks a little stupid, imo. "Episode 1/1x001" looks far better than "Episode 1/1x1".<br />
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::::::::In the "Episode" part, the leading zeros were useless, 'cause there's no reason to pad the number in what is basically akin to a small sentence - our mind is used to reading "Episode 1", not "Episode 001". But in the episode code, the zeros preserve a unified format, without which the episode code is less readable and looks disorganized.<br />
:::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:32, 6 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== 0x:xx ==<br />
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Déjà vu, much? xD<br><br />
Just wanted to say that things like simple mass replacements, like the removal of leading zeros, can be done much faster and easier by [[User:EvilRenegade|EvilGade]]. So next time just give me a nudge or something. ;)<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 23:56, 10 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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== 4 U ==<br />
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{{Hardwork}} I think you deserve this! I was going to put it on your user page but didn't wanna mess it up! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 22:15, 18 December 2007 (CST)<br />
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:Just wanted to say thanks for reverting all that junk earlier today . . . you're an awesome LGPedian, Shiori !! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:08, 1 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== KateModern Renumbering ==<br />
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You're right, the videos do need to be renumbered. However, the way I listed them is the correct way.<br />
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It's not about me being all knowing; it's about me having spoken to the KateModern production team about how they wanted their series represented on LGPedia.<br />
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There are lots of reasons that there can be inconsistancies on the LG15.com numbering and the LGPedia numbering. For instance, [[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] is not listed on the lonelygirl15 section of LG15.com which messes up the numbering, however, I think there is no doubt that this is Bree's first blog. Like I said, the way I listed the videos is consistant with the way KM wants their videos listed, so that's what I'm going to go by.<br />
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You're welcome to help out with the renumbering if you'd like. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:27, 10 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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:Hey, it's not about being in contact with the Creators... they're not even the ones who told me this. It's just a matter of trying to accurately portray the series as the KM Prod. team would like.<br />
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:That being said, I think we should work from the assumption that no recap video should be given an official number if posted from the [[Sophie]] account. In general, I think that lines up with what they want. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:53, 11 January 2008 (CST)<br />
::That works, although The Story So Far... was uploaded there as well, and should probably be numbered. I was apparently wrong about all of the recaps being posted on the Bebo page, so we'll just use only the recaps listed on the KM Bebo page as the ones that should be numbered. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 20:01, 11 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Tag spaces ==<br />
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#Like I said before, this is the kind of job that the bot can do quickly, easily and flawlessly. There's no need for you to manually go through dozens (or hundreds) of videos if you simply want to replace stuff (and "trait|positive" to "trait positive" ''is'' a replacement).<br>Just ask, and you can save yourself a whole lot of time.<br />
#I was actually holding off that very change for quite some time now, on a simple basis - technically, the tag isn't "trait positive" - it' the tags "trait" and "positive". Just like they're using the tags "hymn", "of" and "one", not "hymn of one".<br>I won't revert it, because, as said, I've been thinking about the same change for quite some time, but I wanted to note that, technically, your change is not correct.<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:41, 23 January 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Thank you,Shiori! ==<br />
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I just know that you had cleaned up the information I had [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Breeniverse_Timeline&diff=100322&oldid=100321 wrote] [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Bree%27s_parents&diff=next&oldid=100319 yesterday] . <br />
Thank you very much! I am not good at English grammar.--Irene([[User:AzukiLotus|AzukiLotus]])21:20 29th January 2008 (Hong Kong Time)<br />
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== Toyota Aygo Platinum ==<br />
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Hey, I saw you added [[Man on a Mission]] to the list of videos with [[KM Product placement#Toyota Aygo Platinum|product placement]] for the Toyota Aygo Platinum. I'm having a bit of trouble finding it in that video. Would you mind getting a screenshot to put on the page? Thanks. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:05, 3 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Userbox ==<br />
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Hey, thanks for adding that spam patrol userbox, I just noticed it, it's awesome! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:52, 5 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Publicity photo categorization ==<br />
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Hey, didn't see you in chat today, so I'll try it this way...Zoey was thinking about categorizing the publicity pictures, with categories like group shots, etc. iirc, you did the Videos with... categorization a few weeks ago quite neatly, and I was wondering if you'd be up for this task?<br><br />
To differentiate them from "normal" categories, you'd probably have to go for stuff like "Publicity photos of Daniel" or something similar, or whatever reasonable system you come up with.<br><br />
How about it?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:16, 16 February 2008 (CST)<br />
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== Just so you know... ==<br />
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[09:13] <Renegade15> when shiori comes in, tell her she's a pedia junkie<br />
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missed you in chat so passing it along<br />
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== Okay, listen here. ==<br />
I want the page gone, that way, im of the past. let it be blank.<br />
Have zoey delete it..I dont have time to argue about trying to keep it.</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Iris2009&diff=107130Talk:Iris20092008-02-29T00:43:34Z<p>Iris2009: DELETE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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<div>LEAVE MY PAGE ALONE!!! DELETE IT!!!!!!!!!</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Iris2009&diff=107129User:Iris20092008-02-29T00:42:20Z<p>Iris2009: my user page, i want this on it...</p>
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= Introduction=<br />
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Iris2009 is a [[Revver]] user who has produced in-character video replies in response to [[Bree]] and her saga. In the majority of his videos, Iris2009 shares advice with the the official characters while sharing his own story.<br />
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An example of his in-character exploits can be found in his video {{revver|120414|So I Was Caught}}, in which he explains that he was caught in the backyard of a man who forced him to eat habanero peppers. What was very curious to viewers is the fact that this man looked and sounded very much like Iris2009, leading viewers to speculate that this man was, in fact, Iris2009's brother. In another video, {{revver|130137|Merry Belated Christmas!}}, he offers [[Bree]], [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]] a place to stay. This offer led to more viewer speculation about the accommodations he was actually offering, as earlier in the same video, Iris states that he bought a tent in which to sleep and planned to set it up in a field. Some viewers wondered satirically what the scene would look like if the lg15 characters actually took Iris up on his offer. Some painted an amusing yet uncomfortable image of Daniel, Jonas, and Bree crammed into a 2-man tent with Iris and his habanero peppers.<br />
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For his videos, Iris2009 records himself, which accounts for the unsteady camera work, especially in videos where he is walking and talking. Iris2009 is an earnest fan who has shown determination despite some viewers' reactions. One such example of a seemingly disparaging comment came in reference to his video "I Wanna Tell You Something, Bree..." in which a [[Revver]] user stated that Iris2009's video was "too weird to be official!" This has neither discouraged him nor diminished his eagerness to share his dream of becoming an official part of the lg15 series. Although it is highly improbable that this dream will be fulfilled, Iris2009 continues making videos and responding to the official story. Iris2009 does not hide the fact that he holds fast to his lonelygirl15 dream. In his video "Daniel, Good Job," in which he shows a glimpse of a building that had some similarities to the building that Daniel broke into during [[Breaking And Entering]], it seems unlikely to viewers that this is the same building. However, Iris works hard to imply that this building demonstrates a connection to the official story. <br />
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Allegedly on December 20th, 2006 in a lonelygirl chatroom, he was even observed stating that he would eat habanero peppers until he "makes canon." Nonetheless, Iris2009 is a man on a mission and a man with a dream, continuing to produce his exploits and responses on video while trying to gain the notice of the lg15 producers.<br />
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==Story summary==<br />
In {{revver|119871/flv|So I ditched my car...}} Iris first goes on the run after feeling he is being watched by a watcher. Fast foward to early 2007 when IspyIris2009 puts surveillance footage of him on the internet: {{revver|138525/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 1}} and {{revver|156917/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 2}} In {{revver|172403/flv|I must have missed something...}} Iris reveals that since he was a hacker that maybe it was the gov't who was following him and take it as a compliment but after seeing the surveillance footage of him on the internet, he realizes it wasn't the gov't. after all. Because of the timing he realized it might be about the last system he hacked, which was the warehouse that Daniel found the epogen at. The files were decrypted so he went back to see if he could crack them. In {{revver|177162/flv|TIME TO PLAY!!!}} Iris says he's working on the files but it's apparent things are not right. After the gang was kidnapped Daniel took to the forum to research the drugs they were given. In {{revver|232382/flv|Dear DB}} Iris remembered seeing the drug names from a document in a file he decrypted. The document turned out to be an invoice and he reported back to us. He has other documents but apparently can't make sense of them.<br />
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[http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62804_infinity_122_551lo.JPG Invoice]<br />
(When you go to the image page it has been scaled down to fit your computer screen. Click on it to show it in the original size.)<br />
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[[Category: Fan fiction]]</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Iris2009&diff=107127Iris20092008-02-29T00:40:36Z<p>Iris2009: leave the page alone...its been deleted, because its going to be deleted.</p>
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DELETED, BECAUSE OF BULL CRAP REVAMP!<br />
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All series should have history on the pedia.<br />
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And its downright desrespectful, the fact that the fans were the ones taking care of the page and all the hard work is deleted..sad.</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Iris2009&diff=107124Talk:Iris20092008-02-29T00:36:22Z<p>Iris2009: Removing all content from page</p>
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All series should have history on the pedia.<br />
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And its downright desrespectful, the fact that the fans were the ones taking care of the page and all the hard work is deleted..sad.</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Iris2009&diff=107122User:Iris20092008-02-29T00:31:54Z<p>Iris2009: </p>
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= Introduction=<br />
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Iris2009 is a [[Revver]] user who has produced in-character video replies in response to [[Bree]] and her saga. In the majority of his videos, Iris2009 shares advice with the the official characters while sharing his own story.<br />
<br />
An example of his in-character exploits can be found in his video {{revver|120414|So I Was Caught}}, in which he explains that he was caught in the backyard of a man who forced him to eat habanero peppers. What was very curious to viewers is the fact that this man looked and sounded very much like Iris2009, leading viewers to speculate that this man was, in fact, Iris2009's brother. In another video, {{revver|130137|Merry Belated Christmas!}}, he offers [[Bree]], [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]] a place to stay. This offer led to more viewer speculation about the accommodations he was actually offering, as earlier in the same video, Iris states that he bought a tent in which to sleep and planned to set it up in a field. Some viewers wondered satirically what the scene would look like if the lg15 characters actually took Iris up on his offer. Some painted an amusing yet uncomfortable image of Daniel, Jonas, and Bree crammed into a 2-man tent with Iris and his habanero peppers.<br />
<br />
For his videos, Iris2009 records himself, which accounts for the unsteady camera work, especially in videos where he is walking and talking. Iris2009 is an earnest fan who has shown determination despite some viewers' reactions. One such example of a seemingly disparaging comment came in reference to his video "I Wanna Tell You Something, Bree..." in which a [[Revver]] user stated that Iris2009's video was "too weird to be official!" This has neither discouraged him nor diminished his eagerness to share his dream of becoming an official part of the lg15 series. Although it is highly improbable that this dream will be fulfilled, Iris2009 continues making videos and responding to the official story. Iris2009 does not hide the fact that he holds fast to his lonelygirl15 dream. In his video "Daniel, Good Job," in which he shows a glimpse of a building that had some similarities to the building that Daniel broke into during [[Breaking And Entering]], it seems unlikely to viewers that this is the same building. However, Iris works hard to imply that this building demonstrates a connection to the official story. <br />
<br />
Allegedly on December 20th, 2006 in a lonelygirl chatroom, he was even observed stating that he would eat habanero peppers until he "makes canon." Nonetheless, Iris2009 is a man on a mission and a man with a dream, continuing to produce his exploits and responses on video while trying to gain the notice of the lg15 producers.<br />
<br />
==Story summary==<br />
In {{revver|119871/flv|So I ditched my car...}} Iris first goes on the run after feeling he is being watched by a watcher. Fast foward to early 2007 when IspyIris2009 puts surveillance footage of him on the internet: {{revver|138525/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 1}} and {{revver|156917/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 2}} In {{revver|172403/flv|I must have missed something...}} Iris reveals that since he was a hacker that maybe it was the gov't who was following him and take it as a compliment but after seeing the surveillance footage of him on the internet, he realizes it wasn't the gov't. after all. Because of the timing he realized it might be about the last system he hacked, which was the warehouse that Daniel found the epogen at. The files were decrypted so he went back to see if he could crack them. In {{revver|177162/flv|TIME TO PLAY!!!}} Iris says he's working on the files but it's apparent things are not right. After the gang was kidnapped Daniel took to the forum to research the drugs they were given. In {{revver|232382/flv|Dear DB}} Iris remembered seeing the drug names from a document in a file he decrypted. The document turned out to be an invoice and he reported back to us. He has other documents but apparently can't make sense of them.<br />
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[http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62804_infinity_122_551lo.JPG Invoice]<br />
(When you go to the image page it has been scaled down to fit your computer screen. Click on it to show it in the original size.)<br />
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[[Category: Fan fiction]]</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Iris2009&diff=107121Iris20092008-02-29T00:29:59Z<p>Iris2009: Deleted all my info, because of the crappy Revamp!</p>
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DELETED, BECAUSE OF BULL CRAP REVAMP!</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Iris2009&diff=93582Iris20092007-12-23T20:23:40Z<p>Iris2009: /* Video Links */ clearing for now.</p>
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= Introduction=<br />
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Iris2009 is a [[Revver]] user who has produced in-character video replies in response to [[Bree]] and her saga. In the majority of his videos, Iris2009 shares advice with the the official characters while sharing his own story. <br />
<br />
An example of his in-character exploits can be found in his video {{revver|120414|So I Was Caught}}, in which he explains that he was caught in the backyard of a man who forced him to eat habanero peppers. What was very curious to viewers is the fact that this man looked and sounded very much like Iris2009, leading viewers to speculate that this man was, in fact, Iris2009's brother. In another video, {{revver|130137|Merry Belated Christmas!}}, he offers [[Bree]], [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]] a place to stay. This offer led to more viewer speculation about the accommodations he was actually offering, as earlier in the same video, Iris states that he bought a tent in which to sleep and planned to set it up in a field. Some viewers wondered satirically what the scene would look like if the lg15 characters actually took Iris up on his offer. Some painted an amusing yet uncomfortable image of Daniel, Jonas, and Bree crammed into a 2-man tent with Iris and his habanero peppers.<br />
<br />
For his videos, Iris2009 records himself, which accounts for the unsteady camera work, especially in videos where he is walking and talking. Iris2009 is an earnest fan who has shown determination despite some viewers' reactions. One such example of a seemingly disparaging comment came in reference to his video "I Wanna Tell You Something, Bree..." in which a [[Revver]] user stated that Iris2009's video was "too weird to be official!" This has neither discouraged him nor diminished his eagerness to share his dream of becoming an official part of the lg15 series. Although it is highly improbable that this dream will be fulfilled, Iris2009 continues making videos and responding to the official story. Iris2009 does not hide the fact that he holds fast to his lonelygirl15 dream. In his video "Daniel, Good Job," in which he shows a glimpse of a building that had some similarities to the building that Daniel broke into during [[Breaking And Entering]], it seems unlikely to viewers that this is the same building. However, Iris works hard to imply that this building demonstrates a connection to the official story. <br />
<br />
Allegedly on December 20th, 2006 in a lonelygirl chatroom, he was even observed stating that he would eat habanero peppers until he "makes canon." Nonetheless, Iris2009 is a man on a mission and a man with a dream, continuing to produce his exploits and responses on video while trying to gain the notice of the lg15 producers.<br />
<br />
==Story Summary==<br />
In {{revver|119871/flv|So I ditched my car...}} Iris first goes on the run after feeling he is being watched by a watcher. Fast foward to early 2007 when IspyIris2009 puts surveillance footage of him on the internet: {{revver|138525/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 1}} and {{revver|156917/flv|IspyIris2009 Part 2}} In {{revver|172403/flv|I must have missed something...}} Iris reveals that since he was a hacker that maybe it was the gov't who was following him and take it as a compliment but after seeing the surveillance footage of him on the internet, he realizes it wasn't the gov't. after all. Because of the timing he realized it might be about the last system he hacked, which was the warehouse that Daniel found the epogen at. The files were decrypted so he went back to see if he could crack them. In {{revver|177162/flv|TIME TO PLAY!!!}} Iris says he's working on the files but it's apparent things are not right. After the gang was kidnapped Daniel took to the forum to research the drugs they were given. In {{revver|232382/flv|Dear DB}} Iris remembered seeing the drug names from a document in a file he decrypted. The document turned out to be an invoice and he reported back to us. He has other documents but apparently can't make sense of them.<br />
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[http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62804_infinity_122_551lo.JPG Invoice]<br />
(When you go to the image page it has been scaled down to fit your computer screen. Click on it to show it in the original size.)</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Policy_Patrol&diff=92392LGPedia:Policy Patrol2007-12-15T20:37:35Z<p>Iris2009: stars!</p>
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[[No Personal Attacks|Click here to read about our stand against personal attacks]]</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Amanda_Goodfried&diff=92389Amanda Goodfried2007-12-15T20:27:05Z<p>Iris2009: fixed typo</p>
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<div>{{Crew<br />
| name = Amanda Goodfried<br />
| image = Amanda Goodfried .jpg<br />
| first = [[What's A Date?]]<br />
| role = [[The Creators|Creator]], producer, answers e-mails to Bree<br />
| KMrole = co-executive producer<br />
| age = {{age|1979|2|4}}<br />
| birthday = February 4th, 1979<br />
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'''Amanda Solomon Goodfried''' is the Supervising Producer of Lonelygirl15. In this capacity, she oversees all aspects of physical production including location scouting, cast and crew scheduling, set design, props, and line production. She also runs the Interactive Department, taking responsibility for in-character chat/forum, youtube and myspace pages, and live events. Prior to joining Lonelygirl15, Amanda, an attorney, worked in the business affairs department at the Creative Artists Agency (CAA) in Beverly Hills, a Hollywood talent agency. <br />
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Amanda received a B.A. in Political Science from the University of California at Berkeley and a J.D. from the University of Miami. Prior to working at CAA, she was an agent trainee at Abrams Artists Agency, and worked at several production companies and in the LA County District Attorney’s Office. She also did fundraising for Al Gore's 2000 campaign with the Democratic National Committee and worked in Family Services at the Miami Dade Superior Court. <br />
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Amanda is married to [[Greg Goodfried]], an Executive Producer of Lonelygirl15 and Founder/Co-President of Telegraph Ave. Productions. She receives inspiration from overcoming great odds, redemption, Jane Austen, The BBC, her cats, and the unconditional love and support of her husband. Amanda has a passion for travel, and says that if she weren't working on LG15, she would like to be a "professional tourist." From every city she visits, Amanda collects a bottle opener. Her most unique one is of Joseph Stalin, which she bought in Budapest.<br />
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[[Image:Lucy The Human Ransom.JPG|thumb|120px|left|Amanda Goodfried as "Lucy" in episode [[The Human Ransom]].]]<br />
It was revealed by Wired Magazine, that Amanda was brought on to the project to portray [[Bree]] online. The Creators felt that they needed a female to type responses as Bree, and knew that they could trust Amanda. When users send e-mail or send messages to Bree on YouTube or MySpace, it is usually Amanda who responds. This is how the connection to Creative Artists Agency was made. Amanda responded to messages while at work and the IP address of CAA was discovered within one of these messages.<br />
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Comments on the MySpace wall of Amanda from the band The Jane Doe's were also discovered by fans, who concluded that she helped the band get their song in the [[Swimming!]] video. <br />
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Amanda has received credit for helping write the story since the video [[Bree The Cookie Monster]]. She was briefly a leading suspect for the role of [[Lucy]], but this speculation was dropped after it was revealed that Lucy was played by [[Jessi Williams]]. However, after the release of [[The Human Ransom]], The Creators clarified that while Jessi Williams had played Lucy for a while, she was now portrayed by Amanda, and had been ever since her appearance [[On The Run]].<br />
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It was also later revealed that the actress portraying [[Jules]] was Amanda's sister, [[Shannon Solomon]]. Additionally, the actress that portrayed [[Bree's mom]], [[Cameos#Allison Probert|Allison Probert]], is believed to be Amanda's cousin.<br />
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In addition to her roles as producer and head of interactivity on lonelygirl15 and co-executive producer for KateModern, Amanda is the writer, director, editor, and producer of the [[Nikki Bower]] videos.<br />
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[[Category:Actors]]</div>Iris2009http://lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Iris2009&diff=92388User:Iris20092007-12-15T20:22:49Z<p>Iris2009: cleaning up my profile a bit...</p>
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<div>[[Image:Iris2009.JPG|thumb|right|Iris2009 on his myspace.]]<br />
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'''''Iris2009 Lives on The LGpedia and has made the privacy patrol and along with many policys that are followed here now....'''''<br><br />
[[LGPedia:Policy Patrol|Click here to read about about all the policys Iris2009 has wrote.]]<br />
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== Favorites ==<br />
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*Favorite LG15 chatroom: All of them<br />
*Favorite LG15 character: Jonas<br />
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== Future Movies ==<br />
''TJ Marsh will be appearing as an extra in the new movie "The Kingdom".''<br><br />
''which comes out in theaters everywhere 28 September 2007 .''<br><br />
''It was filmed in Mesa, Arizona on the Loop 202 and many other locales.''<br><br />
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[http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?theme=minfo&lid=wmv-1000-p.1540965-180764,qtv-56-p.1540957-180764,qtv-100-p.1540958-180764,qtv-300-p.1540959-180764,qtv-700-p.1540960-180764,wmv-56-p.1540961-180764,wmv-100-p.1540962-180764,wmv-300-p.1540963-180764,wmv-700-p.1540964-180764,qtv-28-p.1540957-180764,wmv-28-p.1540961-180764&id=1809740161&f=1809740161&mspid=1809802070&type=t+ The Trailer of "The Kingdom"]<br />
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[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2551199/ Thomas e marsh Jr's Imdb Profile]<br />
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== Links ==<br />
*[http://www.myspace.com/imachampionfriend Iris2009's Myspace]<br />
*[http://nowlive.com/webmastah Nowlive profile]<br />
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<div>[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]<br />
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[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]<br />
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Welcome to '''Lucy's Balcony''', a place to ask questions or discuss general issues about the [[LGPedia]]. This page is intended to be a place where admins and active editors can discuss ongoing issues, ideas and concerns. To start a new thread, [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&action=edit&section=new click here]. Please remember to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end.<br />
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For old or inactive conversations, visit [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/archive|Lucy's archive]].<br />
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[[Image:snowwhitebalcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[User:Zoey|Zoey]], one of your [[LGPedia]] admins, frolics with the doves on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]<br />
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==No uploading??==<br />
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The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago. <br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".<br />
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::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::<small>P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?</small><br />
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::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Missions Page==<br />
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox<br />
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:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Show Template?==<br />
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Any thoughts at all? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"<br />
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?<br />
:::We. Don't. Care.<br />
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?<br />
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.<br />
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.<br />
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007 <br />
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::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.<br />
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.<br />
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".<br />
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.<br />
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.<br />
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==LGPedia: pages==<br />
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==I Finished the Missions Page==<br />
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Potential naming problem==<br />
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
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in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)<br />
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::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization<br />
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.<br />
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).<br />
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==Portals==<br />
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Maddison Atkins ==<br />
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Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Relationships ==<br />
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Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Location pages for KM==<br />
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:<br />
*By City - "Images of London."<br />
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.<br />
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.<br />
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.<br />
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.<br />
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:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.<br />
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== KM Forum Links ==<br />
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Oops :X<br />
::My bad, consider it fixed.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Re-Organization Day ==<br />
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Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}<br />
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}<br />
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Need help with title! ==<br />
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There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Vandalism ==<br />
I was shocked by the amount of vandalism that is talking place on the lgpedia lately. I just went to recent changes and half of them were banning of vandals/spammers. This is becoming a serious problem, as our hardworking members should not have to constantly ban all these IP addresses when their time could be better spent. I'm opening a discussion on the topic as to find a solution. The floor is open. Any ideas/comments? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:45, 22 October 2007 (EST)<br />
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:I'm glad you started the discussion. I'm not really sure what the best solution is this time. Before, when the spamming took the form of external links, we were able to filter those by requiring verification when an external link was added. The only solution I can think of for this problem is to require something similar for every edit that is made. I'm not sure if it'd be possible to restrict that to anonymous users or not, but if so that's a possibility. The obvious downside is that it could become a huge hassle for people trying to edit normally. But maybe there's a creative solution that hasn't occurred to me. Ideas?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:30, 22 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::The current external link verification is already annoying. A general captcha for every edit would be death.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: Isn't there a way where only people with a username can edit? I know it might sounds dumb, but I think it could relieve a few headaches. Who is xwestsidex or whatever? I dunno who he is. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 03:22, 23 October 2007 (PST)<br />
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::Yes there is - to set that up, we'd either have to protect each page manually (or, ''they''), or we need the FTP access I requested ''months'' ago. But both options would put off casual, unregistered users. You'd be punishing a large majority of users for the deeds of a small, non-community minority of spammers.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Requiring a username was brought up a while back, and we decided that it's simply not worth it. As Renegade said, it'd be cutting off a lot of people who would otherwise contribute. When I first started editing, I didn't have a username and I don't think I would have gotten involved if I had had to register right away. Besides, being a place that ''anyone'' can edit is somewhat of a cardinal rules of wikis in general. Oh, and xwestsidex is a vandal from a while ago who pops his pathetic head in every once in a while to cause what he thinks is mischief. Suffice it to say that anything from xwestsidex won't really make sense and can probably be reverted.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:36, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:But it's so annoying having to go around stopping the spam. I just spent a good part of my morning chasing around some spammers. I feel like ''I'' spammed the recent changes page. Lol, if you go look there, there's a whole page of just my edits. It's quite embarassing. I know it would cut a whole bunch of ppl out of the loop, but I kinda wish the username verification system was in place. I'm so selfish. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 04:16, 25 October 2007 (PST)<br />
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I don't usually make comments on pages like this, but I thought I'd point a few things out.<br /><br />
-In the last day, there have been 68 edits by anonymous users. 55 of those edits were made by IPs currently banned for being a vandal.<br /><br />
-5 of those remaining 13 were reverted.<br /><br />
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As far as edits go that actually "improved" this wiki...<br /><br />
-2 were people reverting poor edits (one was me!). <br /><br />
-There was an edit that corrected who posted clues to Emma's code.<br /><br />
-One changed a period to a question mark.<br /><br />
-Three edits were right after each other, and probably could've just been one.<br /><br />
-There was an edit to theories about Purple Monkey, which is a funny section.<br /><br />
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--[[User:Ricket|Ricket]] 16:38, 25 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Ricket makes a good point. Surely Registering for an account can't be that big of a deal? I see a lot more benefits than, er, non-benefits, from requiring a username to make edits. From what I've seen, of the dozens of spammers/vandals banned, only one or two were registered users. But seeing as so many people are against it, maybe we could require some question to be answered? (I don't mean 1+4=?, I mean Basic things that anyone who has ever seen the show would know: "The 'p' in "P. Monkey" stands for..." "The lonelygirl15 is _____'s account", stuff like that? EDIT: Questions are for unregistered users, of course.--[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:09, 30 October 2007 (EST)<br />
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::Erm, no. Maybe ''that'' would be a hassle. I mean, ''that'' will discourage even more users from editing. (Laziness factor) I've been up until 5 in the morning on LG15 ('cause I have no life) and about more than 90% of the vandalisms that occur during that time is from non-registered people. I've only seen one registered user vandalize and one non-registered person actually contribute to the LGPedia. I do understand that we are trying to include everyone, and that that's what a wiki is all about, but you gotta decide which is th lesser evil: Cutting out non-registered people out and prevent vandalism, or allow everyone to participate even if that includes vandalism. I doubt that this xwestsidex fellow isn't gonna stop any time soon. And who knows? Maybe other people who aren't xwestsidex will vandalize under that alias, just for the fun of vandalizing. Then the problem will ''never'' go away. I don't think, in my opinion, it's worth it. It'll just make the LG15 experience more enjoyable and less of a chore to edit. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 11:57, 30 October 2007 (PST)<br />
:::We should be more worried about the spammers (the ones who put random letters all over pages) than that westside guy,all he does is say 'fish taco' alot. The ones that actually spam the pages are the worst because they are able to work so quickly and we don't block them fast enough. I think the answer is blocking the spammers faster and making more pages have to answer the math questions..thats my thoughts on it. EDIT: We also need to make it to where people who arn't signed in can't change Lucy's Balcony. IP users hardly ever participate in these talks anyway and it would cut down on about half of the spamming. Poor Lucy's Balcony gets it everytime![[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 20:11, 9 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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::::I actually semi-protected this page a couple of days ago for the very fact that it was getting hit so often. Only registered users should be able to edit it now.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:34, 12 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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man, must i say..that its getting horrible with each passing grade. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 10:08, 18 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== KMProduction and Sophie Recap vids deleted?? ==<br />
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Just wondering, why were my KateModern Production and Sophie Recap videos deleted? The pages, I mean. The KateModern Production videos are very much a part of KM and the Sophie Recap videos were posted on the official KateModernLG15 YouTube account, as well as Sophie's own Bebo. And Sophie is just as much official as Nikki B is on LG. So, why were they deleted? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:40, 30 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Looking at the [[Special:Log/Delete|deletion log]], [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] put "see [[Talk:Portal:KateModern]]" (I added the link) as the reason for the deletion. I looked there and there seems to be part of an explanation for why the videos shouldn't be included in the official list, but I'm not sure why they can't have pages. Back in the [[List of New Girl Candidates|new ceremony girl]] phase, there were a lot of videos that got pages because they were related to the lonelygirl15 story. Unless there's an explanation somewhere that I'm missing, I'm for restoring the video pages. But since Zoey deleted them, I'll wait for her response before I do anything.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 13:45, 31 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::I understand Zoey's point but I still think that since the videos were made by the official KM team, they should at least have pages on here. Don't include them in the list, as they're not canon persay, but they still deserve a page.<br />
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:50, 31 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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I deleted the KateModern production videos because they are ''not'' official videos by any means, they are just BTS extras for anyone who wants to watch them. Not to mention, they are heavily edited and would be hard to transcribe. There's really no purpose to doing so because they don't futher the story in any way. It's like offering a "script" to the bonus features on a DVD. That seems silly. Why not just link to the bonus features and let whomever wants to enjoy them enjoy them?<br />
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About Sophie's videos, I removed them because, they, too, would be hard to transcribe, and are literally just recuts of what already exists in all of the previous transcripts, whereas the lg15 recaps are actual... recaps. But the big deciding factor for me was their lack of placement in the official list of Katemodern videos on the Bebo page.<br />
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I know that we created a bajillion pages way back in the day of the "new girls," and I'm on purpose trying to avoid going that route again. It was chaos trying to keep up, and I was the one who ended up taking the grunt of the work. For me, it's way more important to focus on videos that are actually important in furthering the two main story than "extras" that are unnecessary and can be understood by watching the other videos or reading the other transcripts. If someone wants to ''personally'' take responsibilty for the maintenance of the pages, and not just create them and never transcribe them... or start out working on them and then give up (meaning this would be something you'd have to keep up long term, because I do not personally see the point of doing any more than just linking to the pages and will therefore not be responsible for their upkeep), then fine, I will undelete them. But if they are just going to sit there as halfway completed pages, there is no reason for them to be created as pages on here. They aren't official, they don't further the stories, and they can, and most likely ''will'' end up just cluttering the LGPedia if people don't actively take responsiblity for them. So yes, that was my logic, at least. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 31 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:'''PS''' I thought I should note, the recap videos haven't been ''totally'' removed from the LGPedia by any means. They are still listed on: [[Sophie]]. And the BTS videos are still listed on [[KateModern]].<br />
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== OpAphid mess ==<br />
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Silver recently tried to unify the OpAphid bloglines, and the situation currently is kind of a giant mess. We need a consent on how we're going to treat the series and all connected blogs.<br />
*Before, we had separate templates and "series" strands for Brother, Tachyon and OpAphid. The only thing crossing over was [[Miss Me?]], which used [[Template:Blog]] rather than [[Template:Aphid]]. Apart from that, all bloggers were independent from each other, using their own templates.<br />
*Now, all pre-canon and parallel videos, including Brother's and Tachyon's, use Template:Aphid, up until Miss Me?, which uses Blog, and all following ones use the brand new [[Template:Redearth88]].<br />
I was tasked with deciding whether to revert this change or not. In theory, Silver's system does make more sense. We do not have separate bloglines for Daniel and Jonas either, and neither do we do that in series like Maddison Atkins. However, since this is a rather drastic departure from our previous (year-old) system, which, among other things, means that videos by OpAphid use three different templates by now, I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on this before I go through and revert dozens of videos, when it's actually a logical change.<br />
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On the other hand, it's rather unfortunate that Tachyon's vids have the look and feel of OpAphid now, so if we do keep it the way it is, we should go all the way and create a "neutral" theme for the Aphid template, just as we have for other series. (Not to mention that the transformation wasn't 100% pretty, and all videos would need a post-change checkup of the links and variable settings.)<br />
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In addition, I just heard that it's, for some reason necessary that the new vids use the RedEarth template, so changing the post-canon vids over is kind of out of question.<br />
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Even though I loathe the work, I, personally, vote for a cleaned-up unification, including a new template theme, simply because we're doing it everywhere else as well, and it actually makes sense to have Brother's and Tachyon's videos, which are more or less a back-and-forth in communication, lined up next to each other.<br />
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Still, the old system is over a year old, and it's a rather drastic change, so...what's ''your'' opinion?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 14:29, 5 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== The new favicon ==<br />
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Who the fuck is responsible for the new favicon and how can I punish him?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:59, 16 November 2007 (CST)<br />
*sorry to be dense, renegade, but what's a favicon? --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:05, 16 November 2007 (CST)<br />
::'''Fav'''orites '''Icon''' - the ugly black thing in your browser's title bar/tab row, next to "LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony".<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 21:11, 16 November 2007 (CST)<br />
::::Ah, i see it now. Thanks. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 22:10, 16 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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:It's Ugly....With a capital "U" ... I mean....What were they thinking?! Nasty :( --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 17 Nov 2007 00:08 (PST)<br />
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::I completely agree. We need to start a protest or something.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 14:28, 17 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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== Image Redirecting ==<br />
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At first, I was willing to put up with it... but now, I am finding image redirecting OUT OF CONTROL. The idea is to use it on pages like Characters or something.. when someone could click the image, because they'd think it would take them to that character's page. We do NOT need to redirect every single image is uploaded. <br />
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Redirecting makes everything harder to keep track of... harder to see what images have been categorized and what haven't... harder to read any image descriptions or whatever, etc. Plus, plenty of times images are used in more than one place, and if they redirect to a certain page, it may not take you to the page you want to go to. And.. also, it's a lot harder when trying to snag an image for use on a page if you have to go to the page they redirect to, then unredirect yourself back to the image and snag the URL, and yeah... I could go oooon and onnnn.<br />
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Image redirection used to be the exception, not the rule. And ever since that has changed, it has been a nightmare for me. So please, can we please go back to making it the EXCEPTION again? Pretty please? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:36, 17 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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:I've never really like the idea of image redirecting although I do see it's usefulness. You'd think there would be a way of having an image link to a certain page rather than the image page itself. I'm sure I'm not the first person to bring this up. Has anyone heard if this is possible, or if not, why this functionality hasn't been added?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 14:28, 17 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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::If there is a way to do it, I haven't yet figured it out. We do not, however, have the latest version of MediaWiki, so it's possible the functionality has been added, but that we do not have the ability to use it. I agree, there is a time and a place for image redirecting, but I really believe that redirecting every image that comes up on the pedia is WAY overkill and ultimately does more bad than good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:55, 17 November 2007 (CST)<br />
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:::There is no such feature in MediaWiki; there would be a more or less convenient way if this installation supported embedding of "external" images, but whoever made the config turned that of. Should we get FTP access to the installation, I could change that, and one could use the image path instead of a descriptive text in normal external link code. (At least theoretically. And practically, I'd probably write a template to do that.)<br />
:::We do have [[Template:Imagelink]], though, which superimposes a link area over an image.<br />
:::@jonpro: I assume the reason for the lack of this feature is that the MediaWiki software is developed for Wikipedia, which primarily uses free licenses - these often include an attribution clause, and that attribution wouldn't happen if a click on the image didn't lead to the image page.<br />
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*[[User_talk:Zoey/archive/Apr_07_-_May_07|''April 2007 - May 2007'']].''<br />
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==Image Categories==<br />
Sure, I can certainly try! I actually don't know how to put things in categories, but I'm about to go try to learn, and then I will definitely categorize the ones I uploaded. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|Truncatedslinky]] 02:24, 1 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Awesome thanks a TON. The syntax for putting an image (or any page for that matter) into a Category is: <nowiki>[[Category:Category Name Here]]</nowiki> If you look at [[:Category:Images|the image category]], I think most of it should be pretty easy to follow. Largely images are going to have [[:Category:Images by character|character]] and [[:Category:Images by location|location]] components, but of course, depending on what the image is it may be better suited for more/less cats than that. I hope that made sense, it's 3 am. But yeah. Let me know if you have any questions or whatever! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Thank you so much! Yeah, it's about 3 AM here, too, but that made almost perfect sense. Except... when I read the word cats, I didn't think "categories"-- for some reason, the first thought I had was "There are images of cats on here?" haha.. Oh well, I just categorized my very first image and I promise to do it from now on. :-) --[[User:Truncatedslinky|Truncatedslinky]] 02:47, 1 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::Yipes, sorry!! I keep reminding myself and I just can't seem to remember! I'm writing a post-it note to myself and sticking it on my monitor. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|Truncatedslinky]] 01:02, 7 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::I didn't even forget, that time, you're just fast like whoa! --[[User:Truncatedslinky|Truncatedslinky]] 18:09, 8 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::::LOL! Do you know that when you upload an image, there's a box called "Summary" to enter the categories immediately as you upload? Saves time... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:13, 8 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== About my reaction... ==<br />
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Just wanted to make sure you know it was/is nothing personal. I was just kind of caught off guard, and I majorly disagree with the way deletions are handled at the moment - but that does not mean I have anything against you or your work, personally, and I'm sorry if my initial responses seemed like that. I'm pretty sure you had no hostile intentions, and I do not assume you targeted "my" templates out of any ill will or animosity. It's just not a particularly nice sight if you come online, check the changes, and the first thing you see is that the templates you coded, without having any technical flaw, are about to be deleted in 24h. -_-<br />
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So, as said...sorry if I sounded like I was blaming you, personally. I was mad at the situation, not at you.<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:03, 4 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:No, it's okay. But I appriciate you saying this. I really do hope you know that I was in no way trying to single you out. I did leave the deletion tag up for six days, and after no objections put up a 24 hour notice thing. I'm sorry if it caught you off guard, but I was just trying to follow the deletion policy on the site. And I certainly wasn't trying to single you out by ''any'' means. And I'm sorry if you felt that way. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:05, 6 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Gah! Im sorry ==<br />
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So so so so sorry. I was fixing it up, and my windows crashed again. If you haven't heard, my computer sucks lately. I am SOOOOO sorry I didn't fix the format for the chat. I comletely forgot to go back. You're my hero now.<br />
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Honestly, sorry. Sooooooooo sorry. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 00:27, 6 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Ugh, I don't blame you. It was a long transcript :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:05, 6 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Great job==<br />
Saw the editing you did to the chat with Greg. That was a lot of line-breaks. That was even worse than all the ones I had to do with Bree's June 4 chat the other night. Again, good work. [[User:Lurker|Lurker]] 19:27, 6 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Ohmygod, that was such a pain in the arse XD. [[Greg Goodfried|Greg]] was in the chat for a seriously long time. And yeah. Actually removing the timestamps was the most tedious part... hopefully I cleaned it up properly. It might be worth having someone double check it. My eyes are about to implode from looking at that page too long ;P But um, thanks! And nice work on the June 4 chat by you too!! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:05, 6 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== LGPedia:Participate ==<br />
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I saw you say it's "not quite ready yet", but you left no explanation what was wrong?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:28, 16 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Woops, sorry. I mentioned a few things in [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony|Lucy's balcony]], but um also, for some reason, the noinclude text was showing up on the recent changes page. Not sure why... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:29, 16 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Well, if everything else works, just kill the noinclude? It's not like it'd be the first undocumented template on here...<br />
::(And since this one is not for general use, it doesn't matter much, either.)<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:38, 16 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
::<small>P.S.: Make sure the template is the first element of whatever line you add it to...everything else makes it decompose itself, for some reason...</small><br />
:::Hm, could it be because it's LGPedia instead of Template? I can just delete it.. but ew, I'd rather not :P. And um, the stuff I said on Lucy's Balcony too... although that can be changed once it's up and all... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:46, 16 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::No, I assume it's because Recent Changes is a special page rather than a normal page - since the noinclude text does ''not'' show up directly on MediaWiki:Recentchangestext, for example. I checked both Wikipedia and Meta-wiki, and neither of them use templates on recent changes, even though they do it everywhere else - I assume this is the reason.<br />
::::So while I would prefer it to have some documentation just as well, I'm gonna go and remove the noinclude now, and do the changes you suggested. As said, it's not like everybody will go and try to include that page now - it's used once, that usage is/will be done, so there doesn't have to be any help on how to use it further...where to add items is explained in the source.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:52, 16 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::Kay, I'll wait for your updates and then go ahead and re-add it. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:02, 16 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::::::Text size big enough for your eyes? ;)<br />
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 18:05, 16 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::::: Yay! Looks good! This page is getting long... I should really make an archive for some of my older talk discussions.... (/random thought) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:15, 16 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Template:FanPerson ==<br />
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I see your were having problems, but due to lacking revision comments :P I don't quite understand what you were trying to do?<br><br />
Tell me what it is, and I can try to help. ;)<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 04:19, 24 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Haha, sorry. I was too busy pulling my hair out to give a good summary I guess. Basically, I'm trying to make the first/last fields work conditionally. They work fine on Template:Person, but on FanPerson, I made them conditional and they're not showing up, regardless of whether a person has something entered for first/last or not. I don't GET it... grr. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:12, 24 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
{{FanPerson|first=Alpha|last=beta|unseen=1}}<br />
::Works for me now. The ifs were simply wrongly structured - lacking pipes.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]])<br />
:::Yay THANK YOU! I really need to figure out how to do this for myself. But in the mean time, hey, it gives us a reason to keep you around at least ;) (hehe, kidding if you didn't pick up on that :() --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:54, 25 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Creators chat last night ==<br />
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Did anyone here manage to catch the log? My DSL got shut off, so I couldnt get on (dumb "under our roof" rule).<br />
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Nice to see you in IRC, and glad it works better then lg chat. It usually does. Someone told me typing out www.lonelygirl15.com, with the www., helps to make it work better. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 10:18, 28 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Well, my computer still isn't working (it will be four to six weeks before it is apparently x_x), so I've been sneaking on other peoples computers in the mean time. I've been able to access the LG chat and the IRC chat from other places, but not on my comp yet... and I tried both with and without the www. I'll have to check the IRC chat once I get my comp back... see if it works. I didn't even know it existed last time I had my comp lol. And ugh, I didn't know there was a Creators chat last night! I'm so bummed, I totally missed it!! Hopefully someone got a log of it... :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:32, 28 June 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Acrowleyorder transcripts ==<br />
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I plan to transcribe the majority of them (with the exception of the one marked "graphic content" because I'm too nervous to actually view the video). Though I'm not the best at transcribing, so it may be iffy in a few places, So it might be a good idea if someone better at it than I am checked it over. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 23:38, 3 July 2007 (EST)<br />
:Okay, that's no problem! As long as you actually planned to do them. A lot of times people create the pages and never transcribe them, which is truly a waste. I'm sure you'll do a fine job. Just keep to the format of the other vidoes and keep them.. tidy and stuff and they'll be hunky dory, promise! :D You might also want to consider just creating the page and then transcribing them as you go... it seems less massive and then you're not just.. creating pages. Yeah, just a thought ^^ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:43, 3 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Razor ==<br />
I Have a reason to belive that this acct was hacked and we should invistgate farther. This user has been around for awhile and if they really wanted to spam they would of done it the first day they signed up. i suggest we un bann the ip and tell the user to change there password and if it happens agian they can stay gone? well had to include my input. Thanks. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 19:26, 11 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Banning the I.P. won't do any good in my eyes on account that Razor33 said that his brother was the one getting in to the LGPedia. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:56, 11 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::Some people just get fed up with haters and decide to spam though...maybe thats what happened to him...[[User:xwestsidex|xwestsidex]]<br />
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== Nike ==<br />
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Hey, Zoey. In the product placement under "Nike", are you talking about Spencer's shoes? If you are then when he slightly turns his foot, you see a newbounds shoe logo. Just letting you know in case I need to change it or not. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 00:05, 12 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:It was actually something a friend had to point out to me, but apparently Spenc's socks have a Nike logo on them. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:07, 12 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Information regarding the lack of a general ban template ==<br />
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[[Template:Banned|You're wrong]] :P<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 04:44, 12 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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I created the videos, and since I closed the account, I don't want the pages up any longer.<br />
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== Misty ==<br />
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Hello Zoey i think you are really good, and i believe that lgpedia is looking for new administrators and would like to nominate [[User:Misty|Misty]] if i can.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]]([[User talk:Houdini|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Houdini|contribs]])<br />
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== Reverts ==<br />
Hey, Zoey, I've got a question: I occasionally see someone spam a page (or blank it clean), but I just have no idea how to revert it. Now, I'm probably as blind as ever, and have totally missed the "Revert Button" or something, but right now, I just really feeling helpless when it comes to fixing things --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:25, 16 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
: Click on the "History" tab, then click on the date for the last good edit (or compare selected versions to find the last good edit if you're not sure), once that page is loaded click "edit".. it will say something like.. Warning, you are editing an outdated version of this page, are you sure you wish to save? Save it, and put something like "revert" in the summary box. That should do it :) (Hopefully this is clear, admins have a different way of doing it, so I haven't done this in a while, but I think I made it clear... hopefully :P) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:31, 16 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Zoey, you are seriously a wonderful asset to this site! Thanks a bunch! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:38, 16 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Aw, wow, thanks so much! *blush* --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:39, 16 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== IP ==<br />
The Iris network is in direct contact with the creators and has been told it's eventually going canon. The active agents did once have their own pages. The Iris network really did trick the creators with a fake email address. Agent genocide who is Jennifer Thompson was the one who got in. {{unsigned|24.182.6.17}}<br />
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:Unless you can provide me PROOF, with specific e-mails/contacts from the Creators validating your point that the Iris Network is in fact canon, it will be treated as a fan series. Just because a member of your group appeared in what was ''clearly'' classified as a Fan Cameo, does not mean your group is canon. In fact, we are barely treating Jennifer as canon, muchless a fan group she is in. As such, the Iris Network pages will be merged into one page and categorized as a fan group. Please stop trying to make edits indicating otherwise, or you will find youself IP banned. Thank you. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 15:49, 17 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==xwestsidex==<br />
The westside guy is back with this IP address: 207.200.116.196<br />
Just thought I'd let you know. :) By the way, is there any particular place that you are supposed to post reports on spammers? --[[user:jeans|jeans]]<br />
:Just spambot-tag him with [[Template:Spambot]]. That way, Zoey just has to ban everyone in [[:Category:Active Spambots]] later.<br />
:I already did it for his last two IPs.<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:59, 18 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Zoey, you rock! :) ==<br />
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Hey Zoey, I just wanted to let you know how much the LGPedians appreciate your work on adding all the locations to the video pages. It must've taken a lot of work, seriously! Just wanted to say thanks. :) <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 20:55, 18 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Do you know what spam is ==<br />
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that isn't spamming<br />
have a great day {{unsigned|Houdini}}<br />
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:I have said multiple times that the bebo template does NOT support account NAMES because we don't always know the names of a bebo user's account, but we do always know the NUMBERS for their accounts. The edits you made BROKE the links and therefore need to be rolled back. Constant link breaking = spamming. Informing me that you weren't spamming when you were = spamming. Please do not spam any more unless you want your account to be banned. Thank you. {{unsigned|Zoey}}<br />
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== Could you please... ==<br />
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...delete these pages? Thanks! --[[User:Colbertnationgirl|cng]] 10:34, 20 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Colbertnationgirl<br />
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Nicole's VLog<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:40, 20 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Zoey. ==<br />
I was wonderin if you can think about what i was talking to you about. Thanks. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 14:12, 20 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== New Girl videos ==<br />
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Could you please get rid of the chrysplanet pages? I should have come to first about it. I made the videos, but I've closed all the accounts and I don't want the pages up anymore, if that would be okay?<br />
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== Awards ==<br />
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Hey Zoey i thought it would be cool if the lgpedia community had awards, that can be awarded to everybody. <br />
Like the ...<br />
Bree Award-Highest Honor<br />
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Taylor Awards-Best Editor<br />
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Jonas Award-Most Determination <br />
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It can be like an annual lgpedia award show or a random give out.<br />
I don't know, but stuff like that. We can talk about it.-[[Houdini]]<br />
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== IF you need me to help ==<br />
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i'm here to edit just put me to work, what can i do - [[houdini]]<br />
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== Uploading Files? ==<br />
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For somereason it works, but then when i try to put the picture of a KateModern video it says something about a GD library. Do you know what that is and how the pictures can be put up?--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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The LGpedia is being fixed..webmaster is hard at work fixing it as broken kid has informed me. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 18:46, 26 July 2007 (CDT)</div>Iris2009