LGPedia talk:General style guide

Fun Fact

Sarah just canonized Jonas's for fans of the General Style Guide! (Check her latest MySpace blog . . . ) :P --Pheon 16:03, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

It's been canon since at least Gemma, Who Are You? :) --JayHenry 16:37, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Well, yeah, but that was spoken -- now its undeniably spelled out for us!--Pheon 16:44, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Capitalization issues

I'd just like to confirm the capitalization for some things. I believes the standards are LG15, lonelygirl15, and KateModern. The one I've probably seen different the most is lonelygirl15, which often seems to be capitalized. Do others think this capitalization looks good or would something else be preferred?--Jonpro 14:02, 6 October 2007 (CDT)

Another couple for you guys: Order or order, Ceremony or ceremony? Grace2 89 22:16, 29 November 2007 (CST)

the Order and the Ceremony. --Zoey 00:58, 30 November 2007 (CST)

Tense/Pronouns/Etc.

So I am having a totally great time editing this beast! What a fun thing. I've noticed some things that need resolution, though:

• When adding to the notes sections, the bullet should have a space after it. * This, instead of *This
• Things should not be written in first-person. "The mark could be seen on Jonas's arm" not "We could see the mark on Jonas's arm." "Fans", "viewers", or "it was revealed" are great terms.
• When discussing literature, items are most often written in the present tense. "In video blah-blah, Bree talks to Daniel about." However, since this is literature but with a definite timeline, happening in real-time, I think it makes more sense to use the past tense. "In video blah-blah, Bree talked to Daniel about." This gives the impression that these are things that happened in the past and are affecting the current story-line.
• When linking to another wiki-page, link as few words as possible. For example, "Somewhere" over the rainbow; not "Somewhere over the rainbow".

There are some other things, but I can't remember what. Anyway, this is how I am editing from this point forward. :-) Let me know if anyone has a different idea. Grace2 89 21:10, 26 November 2007 (CST)

I disagree with note-space and linking comments:

This code

:* Space
:*No space

is rendered as

• Space
• No space

and results in the source code

<ul><li> Space
</li><li>No space
</li></ul>

As you can see, the indention is exactly the same, yet you have a superfluous, invisible space at the beginning of each such item. And I do not see how

*[[Item A]]
*[[Item B]]
*[[Item C]]

can be read any less well than

* [[Item A]]
* [[Item B]]
* [[Item C]]

As such, I strongly vote against mandatory introduction of undisplayed whitespace.

As for the linking of as few words as possible, I see no practical reason for that - if I want to link to the video Daniel introduces Mallory in, I'm linking to the video Daniel introduces Mallory in, and not just the video.

Even if you take your own example, it makes no sense - if I want to link something relevant to "somewhere over the rainbow", then obviously the link is relevant for the entire phrase, and not just "somewhere" - "somewhere" is a different location than "somewhere over the rainbow".

I agree with the other two notes, though.

~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 09:42, 27 November 2007 (CST)

Okay, I totally agree with both those things. So I'm wondering then, what is the consensus of the space/nospace? If I read it correctly, you just showing me the difference in coding the lists. Practically, I think it's generally easier to read when there is a displayed single space after a bullet point. Let me know what you think.

Secondly, your example makes much more sense than the one I gave. I agree that it is better to be as specific as possible with linking. You are correct with the link about Daniel and Mallory. Mine was a bad example. What I disagree with is when entire clauses are linked when they are unnecessary. I'm not seeing a lot of instances, it was just something I thought needed to be addressed. Especially since I am new here and wanted to be on the same page as you all.

Let me know if there's anything else I should know! :-)

Grace2 89 16:36, 27 November 2007 (CST)

I think you misunderstood me - what I showed you was that the extra space after the asterisk has no practical value in the finished site. No matter if you add a space or not, the space between the bullet point and the list item will be equal in the finished list. So all adding spaces does is add a whole lot of useless spaces that no one ever sees to the output.

The only situation where the space is ever seen is when somebody edits the page - and, I personally, don't see any significant readability improvement with added spaces:

*[[Item A]] *[[Item B]] *[[Item C]]	* [[Item A]] * [[Item B]] * [[Item C]]
Item A Item B Item C	Item A Item B Item C

~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 17:36, 27 November 2007 (CST)

You're right, I didn't understand what you are saying. I do now and it makes sense. Thanks! Grace2 89 13:00, 28 November 2007 (CST)