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I'd also like to nominate this page for deletion as I agree with all the points brought up in favor of it thus far.  --[[User:JenniPowell|JenniPowell]] 08:35, 6 August 2008 (EST)
 
I'd also like to nominate this page for deletion as I agree with all the points brought up in favor of it thus far.  --[[User:JenniPowell|JenniPowell]] 08:35, 6 August 2008 (EST)
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== What to do now ==
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Hey everyone, thanks for posting. It's nice to see so many names on one page; it seems like we don't have useful discussions around here as much as we used to. It is of course true that this revamp has not gone anywhere for months, and I think one reason for that is that it is rather complicated. For example, the [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/Fanfic revamp#Flock Regulations|Flock Regulations]] as they are outlined would require a fair amount of work to keep up with and enforce, and I for one do not have the time nor would I want to devote the time to doing that.
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On the other hand, what we have now doesn't work either. Pages and series get neglected, and it makes LGPedia look incomplete and messy. That was the whole reason the revamp was started in the first place. So we can't just throw it out and go back to how things were. The goal is organization and presentability, not exclusion.
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If the tier system is unpopular, what do people think would work better? Ideally, we'd have a system that's not complicated, but keeps the pedia looking acceptable and also gives fan series the opportunity for a presence if they want one. Any suggestions?
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(I see no reason to delete this page now, as it can provide some insight into what we should do. I'm sure some of the same issues will come up.)--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 03:21, 7 August 2008 (CDT)

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I'd like to lend my modest voice to the deletion of this dead project.Apo 01:53, 6 August 2008 (CDT)

Agreed. This project and it's pages should be held to the same standards it was trying to impose.--Immortal1 17:18, 6 August 2008 (CDT)

As I stated in the Deletion tag, I think the same logic with regards to fanfiction/user generated content that was so greatly discussed be applied here. It seems its chief architect abandoned the project, like many creators of content, leaving a rotting corpse. But unlike fanfiction which ADDED to the Pedia. This whole discussion has resulted in nothing but wasted time..and effort that could have gone into creating a much richer and broader reference material for this EXTENDED community of which we are all a part. Having been here from the EARLY days..I can tell you..this was intended to be about INCLUSIVITY and not Exclusivity. This whole project has done nothing to foster greater belonging..and it has done EVERYTHING it suggested that User Generated content did..Clutter the pedia..with half completed projects..spread out over multiple pages...a sprawl that almost no fanfiction could compete with. It also has resulted in the VERY unsightly creation of many tags and notes at the top of the pages...that pervade the Pedia..and encourage new editors to NOT post..because their work very well may be discard. So... Do I have any seconds? Seems I was seconded before I finished... --LordGreystoke422 01:59, 6 August 2008 (CDT)

If we spend more time discussing and defending how to organize content than producing quality content it seems counter productive. --modelmotion 02:02, 6 August 2008 (CDT)


Destruction of history is one of the greatest sins of mankind. Remember the library of Alexandria that was burned to ashes? Can we not learn from our mistakes and leave well enough alone? Why do we have to fit everything into a neat little tiny box? GregGallows


Well, I'd tend to agree with the deletion of documents, it must be noted that some information has been lost already. Barring that though, it must be noted that LG15 (and all attached blogs, fanfics, wikis and more) is a community. A community that brings together all sorts of people from around the web. People were welcomed to creatively add to the expanding Breeniverse as they please. As every author, actor and videographer is equal so is every work of fiction.

This teir system, along with being an article that could do with some cleaning up, creates an exclusive enviroment that is contrary to that of the original intent of the Lonelygirl15 community.

Taking into consideration Greg's comment, though, I suggest that this article be rendered obsolete and clearly noted as such so that there be no confusion and so that the inclusive, community enviroment be maintained and no one feel ostersized by their works, which are all creatively equal.

--Zudit 03:32, 6 August 2008 (CDT)

CdnMatt: As far as complete removal of documents, I believe that all works created (weather current or historical) should remain contained within the Fan-Fiction Portal page. Credit should be given openly as the user can judge to view or not view the link.

Portal Page: This document could contain much of the information that is discussed previously (including links to the fan-fic site, main characters, banner identification, name, overview, and #vids). The Portal should be set up as a grid-system to initially contain the name of the Fan-Fic and below the name - the banner or hyperlink to their respective site. The next section could contain a brief overview that is somewhat similar to the site's main-page overview.

The main purpose of this project would be to allow ease of access to fan-fiction pages and allow viewers to judge their preference for the series and/or return back to the portal to continue access to other series-sites. By doing this - we negate any need for a tier-system and eliminate any back-lash from the hard-work that people put in towards producing their series.

CdnMatt --CdnMatt 05:08, 6 August 2008 (EST)

I'd also like to nominate this page for deletion as I agree with all the points brought up in favor of it thus far. --JenniPowell 08:35, 6 August 2008 (EST)

What to do now

Hey everyone, thanks for posting. It's nice to see so many names on one page; it seems like we don't have useful discussions around here as much as we used to. It is of course true that this revamp has not gone anywhere for months, and I think one reason for that is that it is rather complicated. For example, the Flock Regulations as they are outlined would require a fair amount of work to keep up with and enforce, and I for one do not have the time nor would I want to devote the time to doing that.

On the other hand, what we have now doesn't work either. Pages and series get neglected, and it makes LGPedia look incomplete and messy. That was the whole reason the revamp was started in the first place. So we can't just throw it out and go back to how things were. The goal is organization and presentability, not exclusion.

If the tier system is unpopular, what do people think would work better? Ideally, we'd have a system that's not complicated, but keeps the pedia looking acceptable and also gives fan series the opportunity for a presence if they want one. Any suggestions?

(I see no reason to delete this page now, as it can provide some insight into what we should do. I'm sure some of the same issues will come up.)--Jonpro 03:21, 7 August 2008 (CDT)