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== Jonas's Pre-canon Videos ==
 
list of joans's videos: why do we just have his pre-canon videos? i think we should add all of his videos.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 00:19, 12 December 2006 (CST)
 
list of joans's videos: why do we just have his pre-canon videos? i think we should add all of his videos.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 00:19, 12 December 2006 (CST)
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:let's have a section about how people suspected he was canon.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 00:20, 12 December 2006 (CST)
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:Jonas's vids:
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can't we transcription of his vids like we do with bree and the rest? just because he's not officially canon doesn't mean we can't pay as much attention to his vids.
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::It just takes someone to do the hard work.  Why don't u think about getting the ball rolling:)--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 23:45, 25 November 2006 (CST)
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:::I don't really know how to start an individual page.
  
let's have a section about how people suspected he was canon.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 00:20, 12 December 2006 (CST)
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== Poster ==
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some people talked about why bree would show a poster for that movie about that lifeguard (the title slips my mind right now and i have a feeling i'll kick myself when it slips back in) and it sorta tells jonas' story; someone helping people AT SEA!! other people have commented that it might have to do with one of bree's parents now being gone, but i say it refers to both Jonas' parents being gone.
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:where is the poster ur talking about... at the movie theater? oh, do you mean the ashton kutcher movie, the guardian i think?
  
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== Parents ==
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does anyone think his parents may have been kidnapped/killed by the cult? i wouldn't put it past the creators... or is that too much of a stretch?
  
Jonas's vids:
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:Anything is possible.  I wish we knew more about the 140th line of latitude.  A lot of unknowns and not many concrete answers.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:39, 26 November 2006 (CST)
can't we transcription of his vids like we do with bree and the rest? just because he's not officially canon doesn't mean we can't pay as much attention to his vids.
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:It just takes someone to do the hard work. Why don't u think about getting the ball rolling:)--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 23:45, 25 November 2006 (CST)
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== Page Needs Rewritten ==
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I am positive that Jonas is not canon now, because of the following reasons. One, Jonas' video, "Trust Issues" was on the lonelygirl15.com homepage and was counted as an episode. Two, Bree acknowledged Jonas' video "Happy Thanksgiving" in her video "Thanksgiving". Finally, Daniel just made a whole video about Bree, the main character, thinking about going to Jonas' house, in the video "Jonas?" Jonas is not canon, I am sure of that. This page makes it sound like Jonas IS canon, when in fact, he is not. This page needs a total rewrite because Jonas is now an official character. Maybe I will get to work on. <sup>--[[User:SilverBULLETx3|silver]]'''[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|BULLET]]''' (''[[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|x3]]'')</sup> 17:40, 30 November 2006 (CST)
  
I don't really know how to start an individual page.
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:[[Canon]] actually means that he IS  official--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 17:47, 30 November 2006 (CST)
  
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== First three videos ==
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Are Jonas's first three videos considered [[canon]], since Jonas himself is canon? I ask for the purposes of the list of YouTube tags and the official list of LG15 videos.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:45, 10 December 2006 (CST)
  
some people talked about why bree would show a poster for that movie about that lifeguard (the title slips my mind right now and i have a feeling i'll kick myself when it slips back in) and it sorta tells jonas' story; someone helping people AT SEA!! other people have commented that it might have to do with one of bree's parents now being gone, but i say it refers to both Jonas' parents being gone.
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:Yes.  --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 12:47, 10 December 2006 (CST)
  
where is the poster ur talking about... at the movie theater? oh, do you mean the ashton kutcher movie, the guardian i think?
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== Gatsby? ==
  
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Honestly, I haven't read "The Great Gatsby" so there may be something more to it than I am aware, but this seems like a common theme in many stories, including at least one Biblical parable. In the words of Danny Elfman: "When football's over and the beer's gone, tell me where my friends go..." --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 12:26, 6 February 2007 (CST)
  
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:I've read the Great Gatsby.  In fact the Jay in my name is taken from Jay Gatsby.  (As for Henry, if you're interested in Lost Generation American lit, it's from Frederic Henry).  And the Jonas-Gatsby connection is a ''huge'' stretch.  I don't want to spoil Gatsby, because every American should read it, but suffice it to say the situations are almost completely different.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 12:43, 6 February 2007 (CST)
  
===Parents===
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:Amen to that, JayHenry. Jonas and Gatsby are pretty much nothing alike except that they are both rich. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]
does anyone think his parents may have been kidnapped/killed by the cult? i wouldn't put it past the creators... or is that too much of a stretch?
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:Anything is possible.  I wish we knew more about the 140th line of latitude.  A lot of unknowns and not many concrete answers.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:39, 26 November 2006 (CST)
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== In defense of Jonas ==
  
===Page Needs Rewritten===
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I don't know if people think any of my speculation should go here or on the [[plot holes]] page, but I have a few things to point out.  
I am positive that Jonas is not canon now, because of the following reasons. One, Jonas' video, "Trust Issues" was on the lonelygirl15.com homepage and was counted as an episode. Two, Bree acknowledged Jonas' video "Happy Thanksgiving" in her video "Thanksgiving". Finally, Daniel just made a whole video about Bree, the main character, thinking about going to Jonas' house, in the video "Jonas?" Jonas is not canon, I am sure of that. This page makes it sound like Jonas IS canon, when in fact, he is not. This page needs a total rewrite because Jonas is now an official character. Maybe I will get to work on. <sup>--[[User:SilverBULLETx3|silver]]'''[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|BULLET]]''' (''[[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|x3]]'')</sup> 17:40, 30 November 2006 (CST)
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:[[Canon]] actually means that he IS  official--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 17:47, 30 November 2006 (CST)
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Jonas is the first person in the official series to point out that Gemma was a member of the Order. It seems to be the case that Bree didn't notice the Tachyon video until Jonas showed it to her and Daniel. If Gemma was truly a member of the Order, as everyone assumes (I'm still only about 90% convinced the case is closed on that matter) why would he want to draw attention to Gemma's deception?
  
===First three videos===
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At the time Jonas posted the clip of Gemma and Lucy together, Bree was staying at his house free and clear, with no suspicions on him, and no Daniel around to interfere. Of course, that was only one of several times that Jonas had access to Bree without interference from Daniel, the other two times being when Daniel was off at Pins 'n' Pints (and his subsequent kidnapping).
Are Jonas's first three videos considered [[canon]], since Jonas himself is canon? I ask for the purposes of the [[:Category:YouTube tags|list of YouTube tags]] and the [[:Category:LG15 videos|official list of LG15 videos]].--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:45, 10 December 2006 (CST)
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:Yes.  --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 12:47, 10 December 2006 (CST)
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Furthermore, if the Order wants Daniel out of the way, and Jonas is with them, he did have at least one chance to take care of Daniel without Bree being around to see anything during the last week of December.  
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My conclusion from this is that either Jonas is not with the Order, or if he is, than my personal theory I have expressed before is true, namely that the Order, while following Bree and Daniel very closely, have no desire to harm them.
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{{User:Brucker/sig}} 12:54, 1 March 2007 (CST)
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==The Book Jonas Found==
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Do you think a section in Jonas' page devoted to the book/transcript he found about the Order should made? It seems like it could lead to something important to the story. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:30, 6 March 2007 (CST)
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:I think we ought to have a whole new section on the page about Jonas's connection to the Order, both suspected and confirmed. <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 21:43, 6 March 2007 (CST)
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==Birthdate==
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I was wondering where August came from for Jonas's b-day. Also, this isn't a big thing, people born in August can be Virgo's just as well as Leo's. Thought I'd point that out ;)-[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:42, 11 March 2007 (CST)
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:Jonas is known from his profile somewhere to be a Leo, so I guessed August, since that was slightly more likely than July. <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 12:38, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
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::And about that isn't he around twenty now? If so why is he still listed as nineteen?
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::I put a question mark next to the 19 so people would stop changing it to twenty. It isn't confirmed yet and we need to wait it out and see. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 17:05, 24 November 2007 (CST)
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==Better?==
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Fixed it a little and updated. How's it look? Any better at all? [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]
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== New Image ==
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Very nice work, Zoey.  God, he's so beautiful!! X-D ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:44, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
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== Jonas Wharton ==
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so, do we update this page to reflect jonas' full name as Jonas Wharton now? --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 08:45, 3 July 2008 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 13:45, 3 July 2008

Jonas's Pre-canon Videos

list of joans's videos: why do we just have his pre-canon videos? i think we should add all of his videos.--Skeeta 00:19, 12 December 2006 (CST)

let's have a section about how people suspected he was canon.--Skeeta 00:20, 12 December 2006 (CST)
Jonas's vids:

can't we transcription of his vids like we do with bree and the rest? just because he's not officially canon doesn't mean we can't pay as much attention to his vids.

It just takes someone to do the hard work. Why don't u think about getting the ball rolling:)--modelmotion 23:45, 25 November 2006 (CST)
I don't really know how to start an individual page.

Poster

some people talked about why bree would show a poster for that movie about that lifeguard (the title slips my mind right now and i have a feeling i'll kick myself when it slips back in) and it sorta tells jonas' story; someone helping people AT SEA!! other people have commented that it might have to do with one of bree's parents now being gone, but i say it refers to both Jonas' parents being gone.

where is the poster ur talking about... at the movie theater? oh, do you mean the ashton kutcher movie, the guardian i think?

Parents

does anyone think his parents may have been kidnapped/killed by the cult? i wouldn't put it past the creators... or is that too much of a stretch?

Anything is possible. I wish we knew more about the 140th line of latitude. A lot of unknowns and not many concrete answers.--modelmotion 19:39, 26 November 2006 (CST)

Page Needs Rewritten

I am positive that Jonas is not canon now, because of the following reasons. One, Jonas' video, "Trust Issues" was on the lonelygirl15.com homepage and was counted as an episode. Two, Bree acknowledged Jonas' video "Happy Thanksgiving" in her video "Thanksgiving". Finally, Daniel just made a whole video about Bree, the main character, thinking about going to Jonas' house, in the video "Jonas?" Jonas is not canon, I am sure of that. This page makes it sound like Jonas IS canon, when in fact, he is not. This page needs a total rewrite because Jonas is now an official character. Maybe I will get to work on. --silverBULLET (x3) 17:40, 30 November 2006 (CST)

Canon actually means that he IS official--modelmotion 17:47, 30 November 2006 (CST)

First three videos

Are Jonas's first three videos considered canon, since Jonas himself is canon? I ask for the purposes of the list of YouTube tags and the official list of LG15 videos.--Jonpro 12:45, 10 December 2006 (CST)

Yes. --Treefunk 12:47, 10 December 2006 (CST)

Gatsby?

Honestly, I haven't read "The Great Gatsby" so there may be something more to it than I am aware, but this seems like a common theme in many stories, including at least one Biblical parable. In the words of Danny Elfman: "When football's over and the beer's gone, tell me where my friends go..." --Brucker 12:26, 6 February 2007 (CST)

I've read the Great Gatsby. In fact the Jay in my name is taken from Jay Gatsby. (As for Henry, if you're interested in Lost Generation American lit, it's from Frederic Henry). And the Jonas-Gatsby connection is a huge stretch. I don't want to spoil Gatsby, because every American should read it, but suffice it to say the situations are almost completely different.--JayHenry 12:43, 6 February 2007 (CST)
Amen to that, JayHenry. Jonas and Gatsby are pretty much nothing alike except that they are both rich. Nancypants

In defense of Jonas

I don't know if people think any of my speculation should go here or on the plot holes page, but I have a few things to point out.

Jonas is the first person in the official series to point out that Gemma was a member of the Order. It seems to be the case that Bree didn't notice the Tachyon video until Jonas showed it to her and Daniel. If Gemma was truly a member of the Order, as everyone assumes (I'm still only about 90% convinced the case is closed on that matter) why would he want to draw attention to Gemma's deception?

At the time Jonas posted the clip of Gemma and Lucy together, Bree was staying at his house free and clear, with no suspicions on him, and no Daniel around to interfere. Of course, that was only one of several times that Jonas had access to Bree without interference from Daniel, the other two times being when Daniel was off at Pins 'n' Pints (and his subsequent kidnapping).

Furthermore, if the Order wants Daniel out of the way, and Jonas is with them, he did have at least one chance to take care of Daniel without Bree being around to see anything during the last week of December.

My conclusion from this is that either Jonas is not with the Order, or if he is, than my personal theory I have expressed before is true, namely that the Order, while following Bree and Daniel very closely, have no desire to harm them.

-BRUCKER EyeBlueSmall.jpg (Home/Talk/Contribs) 12:54, 1 March 2007 (CST)

The Book Jonas Found

Do you think a section in Jonas' page devoted to the book/transcript he found about the Order should made? It seems like it could lead to something important to the story. Malan89 20:30, 6 March 2007 (CST)

I think we ought to have a whole new section on the page about Jonas's connection to the Order, both suspected and confirmed. -BRUCKER EyeBlueSmall.jpg (Home/Talk/Contribs) 21:43, 6 March 2007 (CST)


Birthdate

I was wondering where August came from for Jonas's b-day. Also, this isn't a big thing, people born in August can be Virgo's just as well as Leo's. Thought I'd point that out ;)-Chelseyrl 00:42, 11 March 2007 (CST)

Jonas is known from his profile somewhere to be a Leo, so I guessed August, since that was slightly more likely than July. -BRUCKER EyeBlueSmall.jpg (Home/Talk/Contribs) 12:38, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
And about that isn't he around twenty now? If so why is he still listed as nineteen?
I put a question mark next to the 19 so people would stop changing it to twenty. It isn't confirmed yet and we need to wait it out and see. Chelseyrl 17:05, 24 November 2007 (CST)

Better?

Fixed it a little and updated. How's it look? Any better at all? Nancypants

New Image

Very nice work, Zoey. God, he's so beautiful!! X-D ~ JBSHRYNE 01:44, 24 October 2007 (CDT)


Jonas Wharton

so, do we update this page to reflect jonas' full name as Jonas Wharton now? --Milowent 08:45, 3 July 2008 (CDT)