Talk:Lonelygirl15 characters

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Character categories

Okay, with the addition of the "Random Girl" character, I wonder about a number of things. (I was about to make a page for her, but then I realized that if she will not be recurring, all one needs to know about her is on the Truth Or Dare page.) Does she need her own category on this page? If so, is this the right category? It occurs to me that while "Supporting Characters" says "nor do they have speaking parts in general", in fact, I'm pretty sure this is the first time any non-blogging character has spoken on camera. While she is supposedly only appearing in this one video, in a way she has a status above Bree's parents or Lucy because of this fact. --Brucker 18:04, 19 January 2007 (CST)

I think the Guest characters section is a good idea. Random Girl's role is really quite different than any of the other supporting characters. Plus, who knows... we may be having more such guest characters. That would be interesting! OwenIsCool 12:22, 20 January 2007 (CST)

Should "The Cowboy" be added to this page? Also, should this cowboy have his on page? -- LGFAN 11:02, 5 February 2007 (CST)

The Cowboy should definitely be on here. For now I just linked him to the video The Cowboy but since it looks like he's going to be making a few more appearances we should probably create a "The Cowboy (character)" page, or actually, we should move the video to "The Cowboy (video)" as we did with Purple Monkey (video) and Aleister Crowley (Video). Hmm... just noticed our capitalization is inconsistent. Video should be lowercase.--JayHenry 11:13, 5 February 2007 (CST)
That sounds good. I also figured it was too early to make an article for the cowboy, especially since all we know about him is pretty much summarized in "The Cowboy" video. I kinda jumped the gun with Uncle Franklin and that was pointless =(
OwenIsCool 17:03, 5 February 2007 (CST)

shouldnt we add like a whatever u would call it section for like all the canon people that just post the videos like tachyon and brother?

Yeah, we definitely need to add them... I guess I'm still sorta in denial that they're canon. Ugh.--JayHenry 18:41, 13 February 2007 (CST)
Amen to that JayBrotha haha. HyeMew 18:43, 13 February 2007 (CST)


Hows that? --Iris2009 18:47, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Gemma

Shouldn't Alex replace gemma as a main character by now?

Alex hasn't even made a blog. OwenIsCool 20:58, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

Well, shouldn't Gemma be at least moved out of Main Char.'s section considering she isn't on the main page with BD&J anymore? Chelseyrl 00:35, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

Redesign

ok now that we finished with the list of videos redesign, i thought, ok its time for a redesign of the list of characters. So I created a redesign page. ignore the stuff i did at first, it was just to get something started and is totally lame. can someone with some design talent work on it? -Misty 17:45, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

The redesign is live, I'd like to thank everyone for thier help. -misty 10:42, 8 May 2007 (CDT)


what about the creators?--TJ Marsh 16:34, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

This page is for characters within the series, not people who help make it. In other words, these are characters in the Breeniverse. The Creators don't fall in that group.--Jonpro 21:31, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Other Blogging Characters

It's now obvious that Nikki B, Jules and taylor are all now canon character so they balong on the list of characters. The description under ARG characters best fit those videos, so i figured they bleonged in that group, but there is no more ARG, and these characters were never part of the ARG, so I renamed the group "other blogging character", which would be more apropriate. -misty 11:43, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

I cropped the pictures of Carl and Sonia so they would fit better -FH14 3:01, 05 June 2007 (EST)

Animal Characters?

Animals don't have pages, with the exception of Gemma's dog, and they aren't "characters" persay. But if it is necessary, then by all means, tell me. silverX3 15:18, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

I've actually been building pages for Gemma's dog, Piglet, and Colossus. It might be kind of neat to include them at this point... --Zoey 01:11, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
If stuffed animals have pages, real animals should certainly get them. --slinky 01:15, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Is it Just Me, or are the boxes screwed up for the Animals. --FH14 12:12, 17 June 2007 (EST)

Fixed. --Zoey 23:52, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Cool Page

I really like the design of this page! The pictures are awesome. :) Wingless earthbound 14:13, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Trivial characters

There has been an increase of trivial characters added to this page that I think should be removed. Just because someone is mentioned in passing (e.g. Sam). doesn't make them a character. I think we need to limit this page to characters that matter to the plot. -misty 17:40, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree, but how about we keep them on THIS page and take out the links in their name, since some of the characters (like Sarah's Jay) have all the information we currently have on them in their little boxes anyway. That way, we don't get redundant character pages that only have a sentence or two. --Pheon 18:18, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
I don't think they belong on this page even. -misty 21:16, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
Well, this is an encyclopdia. We've got to be comprehensive without being redundant. --Pheon 21:21, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
I suppose you think we should have a character box for Rosencrantz, Gildenstern, Alestair Crowley and Pluto. All of those as as much LG15 characters as Sam, Jay and Gemma's flatmate. -misty 22:24, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
As I see it, this is absolutely non-negotiable. There is no other Lonelygirl15 wiki and we have to be comprehensive. If you would like minor characters to be listed, rather than put in boxes, okay. But deleting minor characters is absolutely unacceptable. There's nowhere else that has the functionality to track the minutiae of the series -- that's our purpose. --JayHenry 22:27, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
There's no page about Crowley or Pluto?!?!? --slinky 01:17, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
Yes, there is a page about Aleister Crowley, there's a page for Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead, but there's not a character box as their are not essentially characters. silverX3 10:23, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Wel;l since everyone seems to think that trivial characters belong, I made a separate catagory for them since the don't meet with the criteria of "mentioned in several of the videos" for Unseen characters. -misty 17:37, 8 July 2007 (CDT)

'Stuffed' Characters??

I like the addition of Taylor's trolls, but since they aren't really 'stuffed,' is there a possible solution for the category with a misnomer-ish title? "Toy Characters" perhaps? --Pheon 01:27, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

That's not a bad idea.. does anyone have any thoughts about this? --Zoey 13:25, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

Official character colors

It has become apparent that we need to establish official colors for each character. That color should be used everywhere that color is used to represent character/actor, and should be unique to that actor. once established, I propse, that there should be a rule that no changes can be made unless there is a consensus after a minimum of 3 days of discussion on this page. Currently the colors are

Bree = DeepPink Daniel = MidnightBlue Jonas = DarkOrange OpAphid = #627d6d
Gemma = CornflowerBlue Tachyon = #B7D5B9 Brother = #61B167 Nikki Bower = DarkViolet
Owen = Green P. Monkey = Purple Thor = Crimson Daniel's puppy = Chocolate
Jules = LightSalmon Sarah = #976 Taylor = SkyBlue Spencer = LimeGreen
Lucy = Orange Alex = Red Carl = DarkOliveGreen Sonia = Plum

Please Propose any additions/Changes. -misty 06:45, 2 July 2007 (CDT)

I support the idea that each character/actor has a unique color. That said, I also restate my opinion that I would like to see a bigger difference between Bree's and Jules' colors, since they are rather similar looking on the videolist. --Pheon 01:01, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

Ideas for Jules:
lightsalmon
lightcoral
tomato
palevioletred
goldenrod
darksalmon
thistle

I can get more if no one likes these.. but what do people think? --Zoey 01:19, 3 July 2007 (CDT)
I was going to suggest salmon, but lightsalmon is good too. How about LimeGreen for Spenser since Lime is too bright -misty 12:35, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

Lightsalmon (CMJ) and LimeGreen (LALR) sound good to me! Any last minute objections, or should I go ahead and make the changes? --Zoey 17:34, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

I'm happy with Lightsalmon and LimeGreen as well, even though I'm still wary about Spence's initial (but that's another story :) )--Pheon 23:44, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
Okay, going ahead and making the changes! --Zoey 00:06, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
OK a couple more suggestions, Carl = DarkOliveGreen , Sarah = RosyBrown , Daniels Puppy = Chocolate, Taylor's Troll Dolls = Fuchsia --misty 20:31, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
Cool colors, Misty! (But I like Sarah's current color) How do you even know those guys exist?? --Pheon 21:11, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

well I'm going to interpret this as support for the changes, pheon it didn't seem to me you were trying to object to changing sarah, if i'm wrong correct me. SO I'm adding them to the list and with no objections I'll make the changes al around tomarrow -misty 02:05, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

I would have to say I agree with Pheon, I'm not crazy about the new Sarah color. I think we should stick with what we had for her. The rest look good! --Zoey 02:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Yes, to clarify, I'd ask to keep Sarah's colors as is. But I will say I enjoy the other changes --Pheon 03:18, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Misty, I saw that you made the changes for Sarah's color, but I was under the impression that the consensus was to leave it as is? --Zoey 12:47, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

I have reverted Sarah's color, as the consensus was to leave it as is. --Zoey 13:25, 14 July 2007 (CDT)


Ok we need to think about colors for the KM characters, and Warpylol needs a color I'm going to make suggestions tomorrow but I thought I would give someone else the chance to jump in first. -misty 02:05, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Okay, with KateModern, I actually made all the pages in that ae2301 color on PURPOSE. I felt like it gave it some uniformity (and I know how much you like uniformity ;)) within the series and just kept everything neaty and tighty and.. from getting overly complicated. Maybe that color could become the official "KateModern Project" character color? And what about ForestGreen for War? I'm pretty sure we don't have that color yet... and it seems... "suiting"? Ugh I need to go to bed now, this probably wasn't terribly coherant, but hopefully it all made sense and sounds good :) --Zoey 02:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Issac Gillman?

He should be under unseen characters, right? Yes, he has been "heard" in a voicemail, but that shouldn't count. I'm getting the official O.K. from everyone now before I do anything. Love, -R- 19:28, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

I agree. I can also se the other side, he is after all dead., but personally I don't think the fact of his dying is merits promoting him to a higher catagory. -Mistymisty 04:12, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
Exactly, I see what you mean. Love, -R- 04:15, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
Even though he isn't that noteworthy, he is deceased. If you put a deceased character in the unseen category, it totally defeats the purpose of categorizing characters.   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 11:34, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

The L is Missing

Maybe it is just my computer but the L in List is missing when i go on this because it is hidden or cut off. - Houdini

Hmmm . . . I seem to be getting the same thing too.--Pheon 18:21, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
The L is cut off on my computer as well. I think it is hidden.   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 21:06, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Meep!

I added Daniel's grandma (as mentioned in Comfort Food) to the Trivial Characters section, and the characterboxes are now over to the right, and the Trivial Characters section is messed up. Help?   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 14:07, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

Deacons + unseen = meep!

I'm pretty sure that the Deacons are not unseen characters. Bree told us that the Deacons (and the Elders) were at the Ceremony (the fake Ceremony, that is), plus the individual Deacon that Kenneth Goodfried portrays is in On The Run and The Unthinkable Happened, alongside Lucy. I'm going to move them to Guest Characters.   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 10:02, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

LaRezisto

I would add LaRezisto myself, but I'm not exactly sure where to put him (maybe Supporting Characters), and I would probably mess the whole page up. Help?   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 00:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

DB's folks

We did technically see an arm & shoulder of Daniel's dad. Does that move him and/or Daniel's parents from "Unseen" to "Guest" ?? ~ JBSHRYNE 11:00, 15 August 2007 (CDT)

I think that merits Daniel's Dad to get moved to seen. --FH14

Mallory

Mallory picture

If you need to promote Mallory from unseen to supporting then here is a cropped picture in the right ratio. Psmith 17:50, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

Former Character Section?

The Supporting Characters Section is getting quite bulky. Maybe we could make a "former characters" section for characters who will most likely not appear in the series again but aren't deceased (i.e. Alex, Jules, amd *sob* Spencer; plus, it might be a better place to put OpAphid, Brother, and Tachyon.) What does everyone think? --FH14 20:48, 10 September 2007 (EST)

Added Section, though the alignment seems to be a bit off. --FH14 16:35, 11 September 2007 (EST)

Supporting Characters

So, I've been thinking about this a lot, and I've come to the conclusion that we have been a bit over-zealous as we've been adding characters to the "Supporting Characters" section. To me, a supporting character is someone who has "been in many video blogs" and "contribues to the plot". Just because Carla and Toby appeared in two video blogs, doesn't qualify them as significant supporting characters, imo. They were both cameo roles, and did not contribute a great deal to the plot either way. I mean, Watchers are still under guest characters, even though we've seen them a lot more, and they've contributed a great deal more to the plot. I just cannot see justification for Carla and Toby being up there. I also removed Jonas's parents from that list, at least for now. They seem to be phasing out as Emma moves on and joins TAAG. They have been only in a few videos, and just don't seem important enough for now to constitute a top-spot listing on the character page. Hey, I am actually hesistant about leaving Mallory up there, but I thought I would give her some time... I have a feeling she may grow into something more significant, so I didn't want to remove her just yet.

I was also kind of iffy on Barb, but she has appeared in a number of videos, and along with Carl and Sonia at Jonas's parent's house that one time. Depending on how much playtime she gets in the future, I might be able to see moving her down, but for now, I thought I'd leave her up there, since she seems to be part of the "young Hymn of Oneies" along with Carl and Sonia.

Anyways, I just wanted to explain my changes to you. I'd love to hear thoughts and feedback on this. --Zoey 02:15, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

I agree, Zoey. We've been adding to the Supporting Characters section a lot lately. Currently these are the people that are in the section:

Actually, now I see that someone cleaned up the section. I'm fine with Lucy, Nikki B, Carl, Sonia, LaRezisto, Emma, and Mallory staying (Mallory's only been in two videos but I think she is something important). I mean, Barb has been in a lot of videos, but does she contribute to the plot as much as Carl or Sonia? I don't think so. She's just another Hymnie! And about Watchers... does anyone think that maybe instead of Barb we could have Watchers up there since we've seen like a million Watchers? I like the idea of it. 72.95.224.117 10:49, 22 September 2007 (CDT)