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::::: yeah, Bukanator at the cove has registered with the e-mail address Bukanator@lonelygirl15.com -- since the Cove requires e-mail verification, it's definitely admins of the project who are behind it.  He's been sending PMs to a lot of people.  But, this discussion seems to be closed, right?  We've agreed to leave ONE Bukanator entry on the main page?  Take this bizarre love affair elsewhere, you two!--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 12:19, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 
::::: yeah, Bukanator at the cove has registered with the e-mail address Bukanator@lonelygirl15.com -- since the Cove requires e-mail verification, it's definitely admins of the project who are behind it.  He's been sending PMs to a lot of people.  But, this discussion seems to be closed, right?  We've agreed to leave ONE Bukanator entry on the main page?  Take this bizarre love affair elsewhere, you two!--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 12:19, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
  
:::::: Be vewwy vewwy qwiet, JayHenry... someone is hunting wabbits.... or possibly ducks. Or both! Buka buka! [[User:Nora|Nora]] 13:21, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
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:::::: Be vewwy vewwy qwiet, JayHenry... someone is hunting wabbits.... or possibly ducks. Or both! Buka buka! OKAY, how about this for a compromise. The departed, not-all-that-lamented-by-the-oldschool-fans, alleged-by-Candace-Murphy NDA-breaker Grant Stenfield is actually referred to as "Grant Stenfield." We give him a nice and proper divorce from ''el Bukanator,'' aside from a mention that it is suspected that Grant originally manned that puppet. THEN we create a new '''Ambiguous Characters''' section for characters whose direct status within the Holy Breeniverse are as yet, uhm, shall we say, ''"amorphous."'' The mysterious stoli-swilling, amnesiac zombie Boris Bukanator goes ''there.'' Sound good? Baseball season? [[User:Nora|Nora]] 13:21, 9 October 2006 (PDT)

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What is this???

It's a Wiki for the Lonelygirl15 series. It's just beginning, and it seems that there is only one other user besides me who has started to contribute. Eventually, it will be like an encylopedia that anyone can edit. If you know how a Wiki works and would like to contribute, it'd be great. If you don't know how a wiki works, then maybe you should just look around and see how things work until a help page of sorts gets written up. --TheNunOwnedGoat 14:57, 29 September 2006 (PDT)

So what do we have to discuss on here??

Cuz I noticed my last post was deleted.

Your last post was deleted because you blanked the comments of previous users, which is generally frowned upon on talk pages.
This is the talk page for the main page of the LGpedia; any suggestions or comments you have about the Main Page are the kind of thing we should discuss here. - Dharmabum420 03:42, 1 October 2006 (PDT)

Well I do have one suggestion. Its not on the main page but its on lg15.com Well u could add an rss later on when the website is done. It would be quite helpful. Anywayz Depends on u Thanks anywayz. Keep up the good work

  • This is really strange.

YouTube videos

I understand the reasons for the policy regarding only posting Revver videos. I feel, however, that if this is to be a good wiki, we should at least always provide a link to YouTube as well. For several reasons: 1) Thoroughness is preferable. 2) Some browsers, especially on computers where the user does not have admin privileges (such as younger fans or people at work) and can't install different software, do not support the file format of Revver. The Wiki should not impede fans with such limitations 3) The tags and dialog that went with the YouTube videos are interesting to many people.--JayHenry 12:50, 3 October 2006 (PDT)

Bukanator?

We've had a small revert war going on regarding Bukanator and Grant Steinfeld. Full disclosure: I originally created both pages because I thought they were significant. But it's not productive to keep deleting and undeleting his name from the main page. I think we should discuss if he belongs on the main page and where, and see if we can reach a consensus.--JayHenry 08:44, 8 October 2006 (PDT)

I started a discussion about this just before getting this message in a private part of the forum. So Nora and I will probably sort it out there. Thanks for intervening though, and we will keep you updated with what gets decided, I agree something had to be done. HyeMew 08:51, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
I think it should be an open, not private, discussion. It seems to me that it's a problem because of Bukanator's strange status within the Breeniverse. He is a creation of The Creators and lonelygirl15 and Danielbeast both acknowledged him, and his administration of the fansite, in the comments of YouTube, thus he is a character. Comments from the YouTube accounts are canon, thus he is canon. So he's a canon unseen character. I think you could make the case that a better classification could be used than "unseen," but rather than add a category that's only Bukanator, I think we should leave him as an unseen character, and explain his story fully in his article--JayHenry 09:19, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
It is only a private convo because of the category I placed it in. It could very well be moved to a public one, I know I'd like you to see it Jay. Of course lg15 and db "acknowledged" Buka, there is no question that he is "canon" and not a cassie spin-off character. What I'm saying is whether he is a character in the integral story line. For example in the Cookie movie some people that sent in suggestions were mentioned. Winekone and Brookers, etc. have been mentioned in the videos as well. Buka has not. Does that mean these random people are "unseen" characters too, just because Bree has mentioned them? No, Winekone nor Buka (as of right now) have not done anything to be a "part" of the story, and therefore not a character. If things had gone according to plan, we all would have thought Buka to just be some random fan who made a site like all the rest of us and there wouldn't even be a discussion as to whether he's a character to the plot or not. Remember, every page ever doesn't need a special place on the main page. I wouldn't be opposed to Buka being somewhere (a crew section, perhaps, as he is a "crew" member of sorts), but we can't confuse running the tribute site with being a character in the story! I can tell you right now a "bukanator" will never drop by in the videos ever, so why put him in a pantheon with Paul, Andrea, Bree's mom..., who one day could? HyeMew 09:57, 8 October 2006 (PDT)

We don't know that Buka would never have had a larger role in the ongoing storyline. I feel that to be an unwarranted assumption. If the "storyline" is perceived as being Bree and Daniel *and the response building up around them on the internet,* then any entity confirmed to have been invented by Miles/Mesh/Greg is just as valid a character as Daniel and Bree and Lucy are. If it is invalid to list Boris Bukanator as a character, although he comes from the Creators, why do we accept the tutle's name as "Owen," when that didn't come from the Creators? In other words, "DUCK SEASON!" Nora 03:26, 8 October 2006 (PDT)

"We don't know that Buka would never have had a larger role in the ongoing storyline... an unwarranted assumption" Well I think similarly it's an unwarrented assumption that, until he does, that he WILL have a larger part in the story! Also, what do you mean about why do we accept the turtle's name as canon? It did come from the creators. As of Grillz the title mentioned "featuring Ow'n". "WABBIT SEASON!" HyeMew 13:03, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
It depends what you mean by storyline. Buka's not integral to the storyline if you mean the storyline of Daniel and Bree as written by Mesh. But he is integral to the storyline of how the Lonelygirl15 production played out in the real world. Buka's fan site is integral to the production -- his fan site is still the hub of the LG15 community. I would argue that Winekone and Brookers and SteveXCraig are not characters because they're real people. Bukanator is, quite literally, a "character." Maybe we should make a separate category for him, other than "Unseen Characters," but I don't see anything that merits him being bumped off the main page. Unrelatedly, I think Paul and Andrea should be the same page for now -- right now they're a single entity.--JayHenry 16:18, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
DUCK SEASON!
Combining Paul and Andrea would be a waste, because what if they do diverge, even in a slight way? That's just unecessary. I agree Buka can be on the main page, just not in the "unseen characters" section. Unseen characters section should refer to those who have a chance of showing up and are in "Bree's" world. I think Bukanator, as he "acts" as a staff member, despite being just a character should be listed in the staff section. That way he is on the main page as desired but not listed as a character in the videos' story line.

I think that is an acceptable compromise. What is NOT acceptable is me just having to remove a "Boris Bukatar" as an unseen story character when he is ALREADY listed in the staff section. No matter what Bukanator and Boris Bukatar are completely one-in-the-same and there is NO reason to list him twice like that, nor to give Boris a page seperate from his on-line name Bukanator. HyeMew 07:59, 9 October 2006 (PDT)

Hye, my secret boyfriend, you're about a day behind the times. Bukanator has very, *very* recently begun to come out of hibernation and act as an independent character. JayHenry can probably fill you in, or Milowent. Buka has (or once had) a pet dog and liked to swim. He (is?) is moving and talking and communicating with people now. Might be a spoof, might not be a spoof, but until we know differently, he/it is as much a provisional character as anyone else. Remember that in the greater Breeniverse, we are 'all characters, as we have received in revelatory hallucination from our Holy Guardian Angel. This very wiki talk page discussion is quasi in-character. Nora 09:22, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
Huh where can I find more about this? Is this a joke?? Buka had a dog?! Who cares! Down with Buka!! Besides, you can't detach Bukanator from Boris Bukatar, they are one in the same still. This is like saying danielbeast had a pet cockateil and went to public school while Daniel has a pet tortoise and went to a private school. There cannot be two different identities, that just isn't fair. Whatever the case is I think these new Buka updates are pure rubbish, whatever the story behind them are. HyeMew 10:08, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
yeah, Bukanator at the cove has registered with the e-mail address Bukanator@lonelygirl15.com -- since the Cove requires e-mail verification, it's definitely admins of the project who are behind it. He's been sending PMs to a lot of people. But, this discussion seems to be closed, right? We've agreed to leave ONE Bukanator entry on the main page? Take this bizarre love affair elsewhere, you two!--JayHenry 12:19, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
Be vewwy vewwy qwiet, JayHenry... someone is hunting wabbits.... or possibly ducks. Or both! Buka buka! OKAY, how about this for a compromise. The departed, not-all-that-lamented-by-the-oldschool-fans, alleged-by-Candace-Murphy NDA-breaker Grant Stenfield is actually referred to as "Grant Stenfield." We give him a nice and proper divorce from el Bukanator, aside from a mention that it is suspected that Grant originally manned that puppet. THEN we create a new Ambiguous Characters section for characters whose direct status within the Holy Breeniverse are as yet, uhm, shall we say, "amorphous." The mysterious stoli-swilling, amnesiac zombie Boris Bukanator goes there. Sound good? Baseball season? Nora 13:21, 9 October 2006 (PDT)