Talk:Plot holes

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Oh I like this. Hm, perhaps somewhere we can add how things that seem really important one episode, suddlenly don't matter the next? (E.g. the ceremony and what it was, the watcher, the company her dad worked for, the lemniscate thingie, etc.) They're not technically holes, but they're equally annoying. Well, I'll be making entries here as I remember... Great idea! OwenIsCool 20:58, 17 January 2007 (CST)

Fixing a hole...

I think perhaps that points like "Accent" or "Will there be a ceremony," which have irrefutable "solutions," should be removed from the list, or at least put into a separate category. Thoughts? ~ Jbshryne 01:00, 8 February 2007 (CST)

The point of the list (at least in my mind) is not just to point out plot holes that still exist, but plot holes that also used to exist and have been explained or patched. Partially, this is to keep people who aren't aware of the solution from re-posting it, and partially it is to point out that the Creators are actually trying to make this stuff work. An unsolved plot hole is a ding against them, but a solved plot hole is in turn a point in their favor. --Brucker 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Lack of speaking on the part of Lucy et al.

While I don't think it constitutes a plot hole that Lucy and the Watchers don't speak, it is noteworthy, and I think it ought to be noted somewhere. It's not just in The Human Ransom, but all manner of places. Note that in the opening sequence of On The Run, when Bree's parents are being escorted from their house, there does not appear to be any words exchanged. I think this is intentional, and not just a matter of making certain characters appear more "mysterious" but more...something else. Perhaps powerful? Think of it: When the Order shows up at your house a few days after you've defied them by letting your daughter off the hook in respect to a sacred ceremony, they don't have to say a word; they just give you a look, and you know it's time to get in the back of the car and go room with Cassie. --Brucker 17:22, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Perhaps just making note of it in Lucy's article would be just fine. It probably applies to the deacons/watcher/thugs and the rest of the gang, but it's most noticeable in Lucy. Or maybe start a "fan speculation" article on whether the Order requires members to take vows of silence. =P
OwenIsCool 18:07, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Jonas knows too much?

I don't know if it's even a plot hole at all, but in the video "Tough Cookie", Jonas explains that Gemma had been working for the Order the entire time, and was lieing to Bree. The clip he showed is obviously from Tachyon/Brother's Gemma series (Part 2), but how does Jonas really know all that stuff? From the video, all we see is Gemma following Lucy. All that could mean is that Lucy's found Gemma and is taking her in. Now, maybe Jonas worked through the puzzle Tachyon and Brother left, but I don't know how much they'd told us at that point. Either Jonas worked through Tachyon's puzzle and found out about Gemma, the Creaters goofed up, or there's somthing else at work.