Difference between revisions of "Talk:Subjects Apprehended"

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Psmith 19:39, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

Audio

Has anyone tried taking a recording of the sounds heard and speeding them up to try and get something? Or reversing it? -MHBus

The chirping is a slowed sparrows song. I also have isolated the "Jonas"s.

Transcript

There is no discription of the video. I.E. If I wanted to understand the video without actually watching it, I would have no idea what happened except that Bree gasped and said "Jonas?". Also, was Daniel really captured? After all, he's considered chop liver to the order. In Miss Me? they mock him and say that Bree has "A stronger mind". Plus, you don't see him being captured, like you do Jonas and Bree.--juniemoon

Feel free to add a description in the transcript. Probably just no one has gotten around to it yet or doesn't know how to describe it.--Jonpro 12:34, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Well, I listened to it a couple times and I never heard "Jonas" like people here at the LGpedia claim. I'm guess that, like you say Jonpro, that people don't know quite how to describe it. -MHBus

Okay, I attempted a transcript, but that sort of thing isn't really my thing. If someone could improve it, that'd be great.--Jonpro 18:33, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Done. Psmith 20:23, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Thanks, dude. It looks great.--Jonpro 21:15, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Template discussion / Who is the blogger?

Ahh, time to bring up the discussion again. First of all, I don't think {{Aphid}} includes the capability for a cast, probably because there never was one before (exception:Miss Me?). I'm wondering if we should expand the template to include it. Also, what about credits and categories? Should we start treating OpAphid videos like regular LG15 videos (maybe by using {{Blog4}} with OpAphid as the blogger or something). I'm not sure what's best; just wanted to open up the discussion.--Jonpro 19:06, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

I think the problem is a different one - is this an OpAphid video at all? The description clearly says "The Order", and it has no similarity to a previous OpAphid video. While this could, of course, be due to Glenn being replaced, it might as well mean that this is a video from the Order, as opposed to videos by OpAphid. (Meaning we'd have to add "Order" to Init and create an "order" blog template.)

~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 20:11, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

I don't think this is an OpAphid video. It isn't labeled OpAphid. Listing it as such without any proof is wrong. I think it should be treated like a regular LG15 video, only with "The Order" listed as the blogger, or even "unknown" as blogger. I agree there should be a "Order" blog template. Sappho 20:45, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

I think we need to establish what the relationship is between OpAphid and the Order. Daniel was Clearly being held by the Order when the Miss me video was made, But they style of the video was clearly OpAhid style. this video had a different style but not so different as to exclude the possiblilty that it was OpAphid. But I think that Both this video and Miss Me should have Blog4 templates, and the OpAphid template should be reserved for videos that are part of the ARG. Misty 22:26, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

There is no way this is an OpAphid video. Every single OpAphid video that has been posted has been spooky and has had a lot of cut and paste action. This one has none of the hallmarks of her videos. It is a straight up Order video. I think the OP should be changed to ORD. Just my 2 cents. --Guest

every other OpAphid video was made by Glenn Rubenstein. Maybe this wasn't, thats why the style is different. or maybe its because this is a private video just for order memebers, and the OpAphid video style was directed at a different audience. Misty

You're missing something there, Misty: Miss Me has the eye logo intro, the overbright style, the distorted audio, reverse audio, and, most importantly, the outro crediting it to OpAphid. It is very clearly an OpAphid video.

Subjects Apprehended has nothing of that, and isn't even credited to OpAphid in the description. I'd say all signs are pointing at Miss Me being from OpAphid, and Subjects Apprehended being from "The Order", whichever faction of them calls themselves that. (As people pointed out in the forums, it might as well be the reformed people of the Order, e.g. Jonas's parents.)

~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 08:13, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

no I wasn't missing that, I was saying there are other explanations than this not being an OpAphid video. If OpAphid was making a private report, do you think it would look like the public vlogs? the purpose is different so the style is different. I'm not saying that this is absolutely an OpAphid video, but I don't think you can say this is absolutely not one -Misty 18:17, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

"This is absolutely not an OpAphid video." :P

Thing is, when broadcasting in public, the group identifies themselves as "OpAphid", which, apparently, is part of the Order. Now, since this is a private message, we can assume it goes to no one else but their own people, right? So why would they identify as a subgroup of the Order in all public, but as soon as they're sending internal, where it is a given that the sender is part of the Order, and knowing the subgroup would be important, they switch to the meaningless "The Order"?

If this message was really from OpAphid, then there'd be no reason whats-o-ever not say so. Especially in private conversation, where there is nothing to hide.

There is no logical reason why all public videos of OpAphid would have "OpAphid" written all over them, but as soon as they're among their own, they pretend to not exist (while, at the same time, reporting success). It is way, way, way more probable that this is simply a video from another subgroup of the Order, the Resistance, or the Order as a whole.

~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 19:48, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Or the Creators f*cked up. Majorly. :D

If you want to be correct you would have better chances if this were listed as an order video. You have no solid proof to say otherwise. Let us say we find out that Op Aphid did this video or the Watchers alone. We would still be correct. If you label it otherwise and are proven wrong the information was wrong the entire time. -GiddeanX

Will there be anymore?

Is this the ending to the LG15 series? Or will they escape from the Order's evil clutches?

Of course there will be more...

I don't know...they'll probably continue, seeing how far they've dragged it on already. they never seemed to actually be planning an end to the plot - whenever one thing is resolved, another pops up.

on the other hand, it would be interesting to end it here - they have to end it some time, and it's kind of cool and sophisticated if you know what i mean to end it unconventionally with the order triumphing.

but i doubt they'll do it.--24.19.3.231 21:40, 27 March 2007 (CDT)