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:uhhh, interesting... I hadn't noticed.  Well, I think it's just happening because the templates are being used to demonstrate.  That can be fixed.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:46, 27 February 2007 (CST)
 
:uhhh, interesting... I hadn't noticed.  Well, I think it's just happening because the templates are being used to demonstrate.  That can be fixed.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:46, 27 February 2007 (CST)
 
::pffft... I had every intention of fixing it... but when I looked at the code I didn't see what I had expected to see.  Oh well...  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:48, 27 February 2007 (CST)
 
::pffft... I had every intention of fixing it... but when I looked at the code I didn't see what I had expected to see.  Oh well...  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:48, 27 February 2007 (CST)
:::The problem is that the template includes another template which includes the original template. The category-tag is marked correctly as "include only", but the page then includes [[Template:Inuse/doc]], which in turn includes [[Template:Inuse]] for demonstration purposes - and since, on include, Inuse ''does'' include the category, both pages logically get categorized.
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:::The problem is that the template includes another template which includes the original template. The category-tag is marked correctly as "include only", but the page then includes Template:Inuse/doc, which in turn includes [[Template:Inuse]] for demonstration purposes - and since, on include, Inuse ''does'' include the category, both pages logically get categorized.
 
:::In other words: The template behaves exactly as it should do, and there's no way (and no reason) to fix that. Except, of course, removing the examples from the documentation.
 
:::In other words: The template behaves exactly as it should do, and there's no way (and no reason) to fix that. Except, of course, removing the examples from the documentation.
 
::::[[User:Renegade|Renegade]] 18:17, 27 February 2007 (CST)
 
::::[[User:Renegade|Renegade]] 18:17, 27 February 2007 (CST)
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::::Actually, it's a fast and easy fix. and exactly the sort of thing that the "Subst:" function exists for.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 19:24, 27 February 2007 (CST)
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::::Alright, all taken care of.  Thanks for catching that, Jonpro.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 19:26, 27 February 2007 (CST)
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:::::And, while I'm here, to address Renegade's point there's a good and very obvious reason to fix it.  The category is for "Articles actively undergoing a major edit" and clearly the Inuse template is not actively undergoing a major edit.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 19:28, 27 February 2007 (CST)
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::::::You misunderstood me there...when I said there was no reason to fix it, I ment that the template actually was correctly coded and behaved exactly as it should. Its behavior was just inconvenient in this particular situation.
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::::::I didn't consider Subst: simply because it's something different...it's equivalent to hard-coding the boxes into the "doc" page, meaning they'll have to be updated by hand (or removed and re-subst'd) if the template changes. It's basically a totally different way of designing the doc page. (Static vs. dynamic.)
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::::::...buuuut, since I won't be the one having to update that page, I'll just acknowledge the issue is solved and mess with the next page :D *scans recent changes for a victim*
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:::::::[[User:Renegade|Renegade]] 21:39, 27 February 2007 (CST)

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This is a small thing, but this page is in Category:Articles actively undergoing a major edit. Unless this template is currently undergoing a major edit, it shouldn't be in that category.--Jonpro 14:58, 27 February 2007 (CST)

uhhh, interesting... I hadn't noticed. Well, I think it's just happening because the templates are being used to demonstrate. That can be fixed. OwenIsCool 15:46, 27 February 2007 (CST)
pffft... I had every intention of fixing it... but when I looked at the code I didn't see what I had expected to see. Oh well... OwenIsCool 15:48, 27 February 2007 (CST)
The problem is that the template includes another template which includes the original template. The category-tag is marked correctly as "include only", but the page then includes Template:Inuse/doc, which in turn includes Template:Inuse for demonstration purposes - and since, on include, Inuse does include the category, both pages logically get categorized.
In other words: The template behaves exactly as it should do, and there's no way (and no reason) to fix that. Except, of course, removing the examples from the documentation.
Renegade 18:17, 27 February 2007 (CST)
Actually, it's a fast and easy fix. and exactly the sort of thing that the "Subst:" function exists for.--JayHenry 19:24, 27 February 2007 (CST)
Alright, all taken care of. Thanks for catching that, Jonpro.--JayHenry 19:26, 27 February 2007 (CST)
And, while I'm here, to address Renegade's point there's a good and very obvious reason to fix it. The category is for "Articles actively undergoing a major edit" and clearly the Inuse template is not actively undergoing a major edit.--JayHenry 19:28, 27 February 2007 (CST)
You misunderstood me there...when I said there was no reason to fix it, I ment that the template actually was correctly coded and behaved exactly as it should. Its behavior was just inconvenient in this particular situation.
I didn't consider Subst: simply because it's something different...it's equivalent to hard-coding the boxes into the "doc" page, meaning they'll have to be updated by hand (or removed and re-subst'd) if the template changes. It's basically a totally different way of designing the doc page. (Static vs. dynamic.)
...buuuut, since I won't be the one having to update that page, I'll just acknowledge the issue is solved and mess with the next page :D *scans recent changes for a victim*
Renegade 21:39, 27 February 2007 (CST)