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Rather than a unique page for each tag, most of which are pretty clearly descriptors of her videos, couldn't we have the tags all direct back to one page that says these are tags of no particular significance, and then break out into new pages if we need them? Or could we just leave meaningless tags without links?--JayHenry 17:25, 9 October 2006 (PDT)

My wiki experience is somewhat limited, so I wasn't sure what the best approach was. I think those pages should all exist so as to keep them off of the list, but perhaps they should redirect to a list of all tags used?--Brucker 17:30, 9 October 2006 (PDT)

as long as they direct somewhere they'll disappear from that list. The list is only for broken links -- I think the new YouTube tags page you set up is good. But I don't know, I'm not an admin or anything. Let's ask Dharmabum--JayHenry 17:40, 9 October 2006 (PDT)

tag page

I completely agree. What happened was I was trying to fix links to disambiguation pages. Some vids have the tag "lonelygirl15", which links to the lonelygirl15 disambig page. I changed it to link to Lonelygirl15 (tag), which redirects to the Category page for YouTube tags. Should I leave that as is and just not include lonelygirl15 (tag) on the disambig page? Another option would be to link those tags directly to lonelygirl15 (character). Whatever we do, I just want it to be consistent and hopefully not link to a disambig page. Thoughts or suggestions? Thx. OwenIsCool 16:15, 30 November 2006 (CST)

My feeling is that in the case of the lonelygirl15 tags on the videos, there actually is ambiguity there. Furthermore, the tag is on virtually every video, and cleanup of any sort would be huge undertaking that is largely unneeded. I think the tags should only be redirected in cases where they refer clearly to something that we already have a page for, like a few cases of the tag "helper" being redirected to the Lucy page. In general, there ought not be any page that has a name ending in "(tag)", just for style purposes. I think the non-unusual tags are largely unimportant, and don't warrant a page of their own. --Brucker 17:36, 30 November 2006 (CST)

Sounds reasonable. Thanks for trying to fix some of them. I'll go back and fix the rest that link to the old tag page and get everything back to normal. OwenIsCool 01:36, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Dr.

I didn't see the Dr. links. All the page said was "Dr. is an abbreviation for Doctor" so we can always bring it back if needed. But, I wonder if fan fiction should have all their YouTube tags link the same way we do for lonelygirl15 canon material. It seems to me that we shouldn't track tags for anyone except LG, DB, Jonas and Gemmers -- and frankly I'm beginning to wonder if there's anything behind the LG tags or not.--JayHenry 22:41, 4 December 2006 (CST)

Some more category ideas

If you check here: Special:Uncategorizedpages you can see a list of all the uncategorized pages. In theory, I think almost all these pages should eventually have categories. I'm stumped on what to name the categories. A lot of pages are about real world influences of LG15 -- like Stargirl or Dava Sobel or even Richard Feynman. It would be cool to have these items categorized together. There are a number of items about stuff in the LG15 series that doesn't really qualify as Category:theories and speculation but needs some sort of categorization -- like Breebrows or Hot pink feather boa or Bandage. We also have a number of Breeniverse events (I think Category:Events is probably adequate -- but this would include items like "The Road Trip" which is currently listed as a location, Bree chat, Fall equinox, etc. Also, we need a category for articles surrounding the series, articles like Phorum 3, Firing of Yousef or A Message From The Creators. Any other ideas??--JayHenry 15:20, 5 December 2006 (CST)

I've got a lot of ideas. I like the idea of information that relates to, but is not directly part of, the Breeniverse, such as Feynman and Sobel. Actually, I've expressed before that I'd considered the idea of how to deal with information that is part of the Breeniverse that involves real people. Perhaps Category:Real-world references with possibly sub-categories like Category:Real-world people et al.

I'm not sure how to categorize the minor details like the Hot pink feather boa, but some of the little details are more important than others, like the bandage, of course. Perhaps somebody needs to coin a new term like "Breeniverse" for these things, such as "Breeism" or "Breeica" (although those don't have such a ring to them).

I've already created a category called Category:Meta-discussion, although I've only used it once, and although I didn't intend it to be used in such a way, perhaps it would work for discussing behind-the-scenes issues.

As for the very specific issue of The road trip, while I think it's a legitimate enough location, I think it's a poor name, as it seems to indicate an action/event rather than a place. Likewise with The ceremony, both for the reason already stated, and because it's too easily confused with The Ceremony. I'm actually going to continue this discussion at Category talk:Locations, and leave the talk of new categories here. --Brucker 16:01, 5 December 2006 (CST)

I added categories to the OpAphid video template at Template:Aphid -- you can see them in action at You Made the Right Choice, Bree!‎. Pretty easy for this. I've never looked much at the wikitext in Template:Blog3 but it might be pretty easy to add there too.--JayHenry 12:29, 7 December 2006 (CST)

I'd like to see a "Category:Userpage" myself. --Treefunk 01:03, 8 December 2006 (CST)

Where you at, Brucker?? In the middle of finals or something? I'd love your input on the potential main page redesign at Main Page/redesign.--JayHenry 13:51, 12 December 2006 (CST)

Three jobs and two kids!! You must be loco. I totally assumed you were a college student!--JayHenry 14:50, 12 December 2006 (CST)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing that for me!!! --Iris2009 15:01, 12 December 2006 (CST)

Main page

Hi Brucker,
I really like the Characters page you made. It's simple and clean and takes a load off the Main page. However, I think it might be premature to start changing the main page. My impression was that for now we'd be working off Main page redesign to implement our suggested changes. When we're closer to our redesigned page, then we would move that to the real main page. Otherwise I think we would wind up with a bit of a mish-mash between versions. As you can see, the color on the Bloggers table doesn't even match the rest of the page. You probably know what you're doing anyway, but I just thought I'd mention it.
OwenIsCool 12:37, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Just my way of trying to be a little pushy. I figure if i start making changes, it will make others look into it more. If anyone doesn't like it, I won't be offended if they roll it back. There certainly is a lot more work to be done before the full revamp. --Brucker 12:54, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Yeah, I understand what you mean. We haven't made many real changes in Main Page redesign yet, so it's important that more people get involved. However, I see now that some people have started tinkering with the changes you made (and adding their own) directly on the main page. I don't think you meant to promote people's making numerous experimental edits to the Main page, as this would be disorienting to new users... but unfortunately that seems to be how your edit was interpreted by some. I've reverted a couple of the needless changes, but I'm not sure how to direct more people to the redesign page, which is I think what you meant to do. OwenIsCool 13:33, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Hehehe, your new heading on editing the Main page should get the message across. That was a smart way of doing it. Thanks for taking care of it. OwenIsCool 14:42, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Nice job Brucker

Those are great images you chose for the main page. Much much better than the ones before. Great work.Garfwog 19:11, 21 December 2006 (CST)