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:Just wanted to say thanks for reverting all that junk earlier today . . . you're an awesome LGPedian, Shiori !! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:08, 1 January 2008 (CST)
 
:Just wanted to say thanks for reverting all that junk earlier today . . . you're an awesome LGPedian, Shiori !! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:08, 1 January 2008 (CST)
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== KateModern Renumbering ==
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You're right, the videos do need to be renumbered. However, the way I listed them is the correct way.
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It's not about me being all knowing; it's about me having spoken to the KateModern production team about how they wanted their series represented on LGPedia.
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There are lots of reasons that there can be inconsistancies on the LG15.com numbering and the LGPedia numbering. For instance, [[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]] is not listed on the lonelygirl15 section of LG15.com which messes up the numbering, however, I think there is no doubt that this is Bree's first blog. Like I said, the way I listed the videos is consistant with the way KM wants their videos listed, so that's what I'm going to go by.
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You're welcome to help out with the renumbering if you'd like. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:27, 10 January 2008 (CST)

Revision as of 19:27, 10 January 2008

Hey there! Let me offer you a belated welcome, and thanks from a fellow LGPedian for all your great work. Also: your caption for Jonas Cares is absolutely hysterical. :-D ~ JBSHRYNE 15:27, 28 November 2007 (CST)

Theories

Hey, just wanted to tell you all the work you did on the Theories page is awesome! Nancypants 19:53, 3 December 2007 (CST)

0xxx

I didn't say anything so far because I didn't find anything that broke because of it, but...why the hell do you always add a leading zero to the episode numbers? What is the practical purpose of that? -_^

~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 09:35, 4 December 2007 (CST)
[in reply to User talk:Renegade#0xxx]
Well, since your note is lacking in my framework, no wonder I didn't see it. xD (And no, that's not a hint to update it. :P)
The thing is, with a leading zero, the sorting is messed up as well - everything is filed under "0". Episode 10, 256, 320, they're all in section "0" instead of "1", "2" and "3". I do see your point, but, in my opinion, it's easier to find episode 30 by checking a section "3" than to count down 30 in the "0" section...
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 09:51, 4 December 2007 (CST)
[again in reply to User talk:Renegade#0xxx]
Done :P
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 18:20, 4 December 2007 (CST)
AGAIN??
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 18:46, 5 December 2007 (CST)
No, I fixed that; I was contemplating changing things to be to the 100th place, but decided against it. The categorization is WAY off now, though. I'm trying to sort by date added, but it's not working too well. - Shiori 18:53, 5 December 2007 (CST)
It's less off than it was before, and it was less off than before you changed it to sorting by date. Before, everything was ordered under "0", now, at least what's starting with 3 is sorted under "3". It sucks that it leads to 3, 3x, 3xx, but it's still better having all 3s under "3" than having no numeral indication at all.
I'm gonna revert that blog change, btw, because 0+order and numbers+slight inorder both make more sense than ordering by seemingly random characters. Not to mention that this ordering doesn't create any more order, because it Orders both September 2006 and September 2007 under "S" - not to mention all the stuff that goes into "J".
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 19:00, 5 December 2007 (CST)
Yeah, I know. Like I said in the change there, it was tentative. Ideally, it would be awesome if we could find someway to sort by date without having the pages categorized under any label at all; maybe year. I don't think that's possible, though, so bah. I mainly only care because it makes finding a person's previous blog a little easier. - Shiori 19:06, 5 December 2007 (CST)
I find it quite easy to find the previous blog simply by looking at the List of videos?
What we could try is do conditional sorting - iow, change the sort key to automatically change the sort key to "1 - {{{number}}}" "10 - {{{number}}}" "100 - {{{number}}}" and so on. That *should* sort them correctly. Actually, scratch that...that would result in the same ordering as now. But please leave the episode numbers alone in the future, it's easier to do such stuff in the template than editing 366 vid pages. ;)
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 19:20, 5 December 2007 (CST)
I think I found why the zeros were there in the first place; I found this on Wikipedia:
"When trying to sort with numbers (e.g. wikipedia:Naming conventions (pieces of music)), don't forget to add an extra zero when more than 9 entries in the category are expected; and a second extra zero when more than 99, etc...: [[Category:Symphonies by Joseph Haydn|Symphony 13]] → [[Category:Symphonies by Joseph Haydn|Symphony 013]] (he wrote 108 symphonies). Categories sort by the first character, so leaving out the preceding zero would cause 10 to be sorted before 2."
I agree that, assuming we wanted to put them back in, it would be WAY better to do it in the template itself. - Shiori 19:29, 5 December 2007 (CST)
That is kind of the reason - the difference is that, in that example, both Symphony 010 and Symphony 002 would correctly be sorted under "S" and then by number - whereas in our case, the sorting "0" is never right in the first place.
I think I just had an idea though...I think I semi-hacked the sort key on another wiki to sort everything under the space character (i.e. no sort key is displayed) - if we combine that with automatically generated zero-padding, it should be sorted correctly. Give me a moment to code this up.
Update: I think it's working - only problem is that non-canon vids are "numbered" JONx, for example - I'll have to add a special case for that. But otherwise, I think it's slowly re-ordering itself to the correct order, with no misleading header.
Update 2: Check Category:Jonas's blogs - as far as I can see, everything is totally and entirely as it should be. The videos look in order, there is no header, and the pre-canon vids are separated. :)
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 19:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
AWESOME! Should we delete the leading zeros from the KM blogs, too? I'm just wondering for continuity's sake now. - Shiori 20:17, 5 December 2007 (CST)
Well, the same template is used on both, so if KM vids have zeros as well, they'll have to be de-zeroed as well. Don't worry about it, though, I'll have EvilRenegade do it. ;)
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 20:52, 5 December 2007 (CST)
I just ran the bot on the KM vids - that should settle the whole zero-padding issue once and for all. :) I forgot to turn logging on, so there might be one or two vids that fell through because of editing conflicts, but those will be apparent quickly because's sorted wrongly in the categories, and can be fixed manually.
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 10:07, 6 December 2007 (CST)
I've edited Epcode just earlier, so I'm not afraid of it - I'm just not sure what you want changed? If you refer to the fact that the seasonal episode numbers are zero-padded, I did that because a unified format of #x### looks better than stuff like "1x1" does. The difference between "Episode 1", "Episode 10" and "Episode 100" makes no difference to our sense of design and symmetry, but "1x1", "1x10" and "1x100" kind of growing a tale looks a little stupid, imo. "Episode 1/1x001" looks far better than "Episode 1/1x1".
1x1 1x001
1x5 1x005
1x13 1x013
1x52 1x052
1x107 1x107
In the "Episode" part, the leading zeros were useless, 'cause there's no reason to pad the number in what is basically akin to a small sentence - our mind is used to reading "Episode 1", not "Episode 001". But in the episode code, the zeros preserve a unified format, without which the episode code is less readable and looks disorganized.
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 16:32, 6 December 2007 (CST)

0x:xx

Déjà vu, much? xD
Just wanted to say that things like simple mass replacements, like the removal of leading zeros, can be done much faster and easier by EvilGade. So next time just give me a nudge or something. ;)

~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 23:56, 10 December 2007 (CST)

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I think you deserve this! I was going to put it on your user page but didn't wanna mess it up! Nancypants 22:15, 18 December 2007 (CST)
Just wanted to say thanks for reverting all that junk earlier today . . . you're an awesome LGPedian, Shiori !! --Pheon 23:08, 1 January 2008 (CST)

KateModern Renumbering

You're right, the videos do need to be renumbered. However, the way I listed them is the correct way.

It's not about me being all knowing; it's about me having spoken to the KateModern production team about how they wanted their series represented on LGPedia.

There are lots of reasons that there can be inconsistancies on the LG15.com numbering and the LGPedia numbering. For instance, First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails is not listed on the lonelygirl15 section of LG15.com which messes up the numbering, however, I think there is no doubt that this is Bree's first blog. Like I said, the way I listed the videos is consistant with the way KM wants their videos listed, so that's what I'm going to go by.

You're welcome to help out with the renumbering if you'd like. --Zoey 13:27, 10 January 2008 (CST)