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EliCash Lonely Fan
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 173
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Group hug? |
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livelongandprosper77 Devoted Fan
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 546 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Group Hug! everyone start singing, "We are the world...."
_________________ LLP is in the house fo rizzle.
Lonelygirl15: "Time for another episode of p-r-o-v-i-n-g s-c-i-e-n-c-e wronngggg!"
Capt. Picard: "Tea Earl Grey, hot" |
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Beckers Thor's Hammer
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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livelongandprosper77 Devoted Fan
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Okay maybe i over did that a bit just a hug and lots of love everyone don't be haters! _________________ LLP is in the house fo rizzle.
Lonelygirl15: "Time for another episode of p-r-o-v-i-n-g s-c-i-e-n-c-e wronngggg!"
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Beckers Thor's Hammer
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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curiousGeorge Enthusiastic Fan
Joined: 06 Sep 2006 Posts: 351 Location: Rancor Cove
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have a problem with editing the videos to show the "middle frame" as the thumbnail. As Milo said, it is part of the shoddy YT game that many of their content creators have to play. I feel sorry for the creators that they have to worry about this facet of YT, it is just stupid...
I was a little disturbed by the inclusion though of a completely random pic in the middle of the vid. A more clever way to pull this off would have been to edit the vid from the beginning with, clearly legible and pertinent, frames in the middle to provide this function... A little more creativity in the editing room, that 's all it would take.
I have to say that there are so many absurd plot problems, continuity issues, (insert usual litany of rants) that this is probably the least of their problems at this point, although they appear to be getting a little better.
Maybe... I still want to know who can see what vids and phorums . _________________ All Your Base are Belong to Bukanator |
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AniDonia Lonely Fan
Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 164 Location: The Deuce
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:07 am Post subject: |
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^ here's the tiniest violin in the world, playing a sad, sad song for you
I thought it was a clever way for the Creators to keep the YouTube fans updated on an important and exciting episode.
It was also a clever and novel way to address, without breaking charactor, the long-recognized problem that a good number of the casual YT followers aren't aware of and/or don't follow the LG15 non-Bree charactors--and thus miss really important plots points that aren't shown in Bree's videos. This is plain just through the video viewcounts and subscription numbers:
Bree:
Subscribers: 71,888
Viewcount on most recent vid: 214,104
Daniel:
Subscribers: 18,996
Viewcount on most recent vid: 322,227
Jonas:
Subscribers: 9,056
Viewcount on most recent vid: 61,800
Gemma:
Subscribers: 14,631
Viewcount on most recent vid: 81,063
Tachyon:
Subscribers: 2,666
Viewcount on most recent vid: 13,377
OpAphid:
Subscribers: 2,957
Viewcount on most recent vid: 127,624
I think the numbers speak for themselves. Over 3.5 times as many people are subscribed to Bree as they are to Daniel. About 9 times as many people are subscribed to Bree as they are to Jonas. Over 23 times as many people subscribe to Bree as to the the ARGs.
Now, maybe with the exception of the ARGs, all the videos from the Canonical charactors are equally as important to the LG15 storyline. The YouTubers who are following the story on YT are obviously watching it because they are interested in the plot and want to follow it--they are just not hardcore or obsessed enough about it to frequent the LG15 site and find out about the peripheral characters/new characters, etc.
Why is it a bad thing to make them aware of a video that is posted by a non-Bree character that they may not have been aware of having an account on YouTube?
Why is it a bad thing to bring to their attention an important slice of a storyline that they *want* to follow, while cleverly keeping it IN CHARACTOR and IN UNIVERSE?? |
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EliCash Lonely Fan
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Why is it a bad thing to make them aware of a video that is posted by a non-Bree character that they may not have been aware of having an account on YouTube?
Why is it a bad thing to bring to their attention an important slice of a storyline that they *want* to follow, while cleverly keeping it IN CHARACTOR and IN UNIVERSE?? |
Are you in the right thread? Nobody ever said either of these two things are bad. And when did anybody ever argue against Daniel posting to Bree's account?
And there was nothing "clever" about it. It's the same annoying trick that's being done far too often on YouTube. |
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wintermute The Order of Denderah
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 4430 Location: Stalking Rae and gamejacking CiW
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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EliCash wrote: | Are you in the right thread? Nobody ever said either of these two things are bad. And when did anybody ever argue against Daniel posting to Bree's account?
And there was nothing "clever" about it. It's the same annoying trick that's being done far too often on YouTube. |
I think some only read the first couple of posts in the thread before jumping to (the wrong) conclusions That's an inherent problem with forums such as this. An argument erupts, gets resolved, and then someone doesn't read the entire thread and the whole thing starts again
'mute _________________ Proud member of LG15 Defense Force.
Proud member of "The Five" (who have been "Tagged" by Hymn of One).
'vote 'mute in '16! |
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Broken Kid Site Admin
Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 5276
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: |
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I think this has been thoroughly discussed. Now the danger is, as 'mute said, someone reading the first few pages and posting and causing things to flame up again. I'm going to lock this now, and Eli, if you want to still discuss it, let me know. Perhaps we can figure out a better way.
There was another thread started about it in the Plot Discussion forum as well. _________________ President of the Owen Fan Club |
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Broken Kid Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:55 am Post subject: |
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I unlocked this again, now that things have died down a bit, because people said they'd like to continue the discussion (hopefully in a non-heated way). However, I did change the title to make it more specific and less accusatory. I left the original title in the poster's message, though, to avoid stepping on toes. _________________ President of the Owen Fan Club |
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milowent Devoted Fan
Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 883
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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thanks, bk!
does anyone know who the first person at youtube was to successfully exploit the middle-frame-as-screencap issue at youtube? i first learned about it when renetto did it in one of his early videos:
I cracked the YouTube Code! (Aug 2, 2006)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVQuY2AkbNg _________________ “Can't repeat the past? Why of course you can!” |
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livelongandprosper77 Devoted Fan
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 546 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Cool deal BK! I do not know who was the first to do it but could someone explain again why a particular thumnail image can not be chosen as the video creator wishes on YouTube? I thought i heard it said on Revver this is not an issue. You would think that YouTube would fix this problem if it was getting so annoying to people. Just curious. _________________ LLP is in the house fo rizzle.
Lonelygirl15: "Time for another episode of p-r-o-v-i-n-g s-c-i-e-n-c-e wronngggg!"
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Taig Enthusiastic Fan
Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 373
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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unbeleivable |
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spaciegirlreturn The Order of Denderah
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2767 Location: Jupiter
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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edited for being in the wrong thread...idiot _________________ Me and my key...same as it ever was. |
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