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Nieriel.Manwathiel
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| GDR425 wrote: | | all im saying is, what was stopping that guy from just snatching bree and taking her to do the ceremony? |
"free will" seems to be ESSENTIAL to the ceremony, whatever it is. Bree chooses not to do the ceremony and all this stuff happens around her but not TO her. She offers a trade (presumably letting herself be a part of the ceremony) and the Order is more than happy to comply. whether or not it's coerced, it seems CRUCIAL that Bree "chooses" to do the ceremony.
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Christie91
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote: | | GDR425 wrote: | | all im saying is, what was stopping that guy from just snatching bree and taking her to do the ceremony? |
"free will" seems to be ESSENTIAL to the ceremony, whatever it is. Bree chooses not to do the ceremony and all this stuff happens around her but not TO her. She offers a trade (presumably letting herself be a part of the ceremony) and the Order is more than happy to comply. whether or not it's coerced, it seems CRUCIAL that Bree "chooses" to do the ceremony. |
Ye I see some truth in this. |
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PinkoLady
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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If they're supposed to be protecting her, they're doing a pretty weak job of it. 
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Christie91
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I still think that guy looked way too creepy to be a goodie |
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chevyfudd
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I also think they are good. They make themselves visible. Just sounds like a good theroy to me.
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PinkoLady
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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But they also watch. Sounds voyeuristic to me. 
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imogene2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| chevyfudd wrote: | | I also think they are good. They make themselves visible. Just sounds like a good theroy to me. |
They make themselves visible, yeah, but that doesn't mean they're good. They are like stalkers and they obviously know that Bree is afraid and/or annoyed with them, but they make no attempt to tell her what their intentions are.
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Christie91
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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Wouldn't Tachy tell her that the watchers where good though? So that Bree could concentrate more on avoiding oppy instead of just the watchers.
And if their intentions where to help then I haven't seen them helping yet? |
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longlostposter
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Imogene, the signature is just too funny, and the avatar is cool.
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Killthesmiley
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| Christie91 wrote: | Wouldn't Tachy tell her that the watchers where good though? So that Bree could concentrate more on avoiding oppy instead of just the watchers.
And if their intentions where to help then I haven't seen them helping yet? |
If Tachyon is sitting there saying they're bad ... they are.
Plus why would we say a group of people who dare shot a dad infront of his child is good? That to me screams criminals.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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You trust Tachyon?
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Ziola
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| Basing your opinion of the Watchers on Tachyon's opinion isn't really a good way to go about it. She has her own agenda regarding the Order and all thats associated with it and her view is slightly skewed. |
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Killthesmiley
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: |
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did you not read the second part of my statement??
that was pure evil and bad what they did to bree and her family...
also the fact the take girls from their families literally just for a "ceremony"
what part of that does not ring bad?
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Kasdeja
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: |
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As we can see sides have been chosen.
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Ziola
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Who says they "take" girls from their families? We have no proof of that. For all we know, it is a great honor for families in their religion and when approached, they willingly give their child up.
Tachyon herself is no saint if you'll recall. There is the little matter of dead Gemma as well as her "babysitter". |
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