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acidfingers Lonely Fan
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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There's a difference between taking off and maintaining flight.
My two cents:
It would eventually get to a speed where the forward thrust from the engines would exceed the friction from the wheels and air and it would begin to take flight. The problem would arise at that moment, wherein it would have lost the forces of friction from the wheels and subsequently crash back to the ground.
It all boils down to forces acting on the plane, which the picture that I posted explains _________________ [13:09:39] <marlasinger> acid's like a pussy sore, if you keep playing with it it just gets worse. |
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LesterG The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ziola wrote: | Poor Acid...we've destroyed yet another thread.
And Les, if we fill it with fireworks, won't that make it very difficult for us to toast marshmallows for the s'mores? |
ummmm..... *stumped* no fireworks then  _________________ Seraph Haku
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wintermute The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Forward thrust will overcome friction. But there are four forces acting upon the plane. The picture only explains two.
And Lester, I think "The problem would arise at that moment" means fireworks
'mute
edit: missed your picture. Original picture only explains two. Doh!
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Mirage Hymn of One

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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wintermute wrote: | Forward thrust will overcome friction. |
Hee!
Quote: | "The problem would arise at that moment"
'mute |
Double hee! |
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Jamidru The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Mirage Hymn of One

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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*blush*
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AutoPilate The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Oh snap, Mirage pulled a Sheikh! [/impressed] _________________ Why was there BACON IN THE SOAP?! |
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Mirage Hymn of One

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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AutoPilate wrote: | Oh snap, Mirage pulled a Sheikh! [/impressed] |
And he enjoyed it too. |
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Eric Lonely Fan
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 183 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Doh! I want to change my answer! I was assuming that the treadmill was running backwards to push the plane forwards. If it's running in the correct direction to keep the plane in the same spot relative to the unmoving ground then no, it won't take off. An airfoil needs air moving across it to generate lift. This air movement is generated by the engine thrust moving the plane (well the wing part of it anyway) through the air mass. If the airplane is standing still relative to the surrounding air mass then it will stay firmly planted on the belt no matter how much thrust it generates ... assuming the belt is capable of moving fast enough to match the forward thrust generated by the engines ... and assuming that there's not a hurricane in the area ... or a really, really big fan at the front of the treadmill. |
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AutoPilate The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I've been saying this all along. _________________ Why was there BACON IN THE SOAP?! |
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Ziola The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Jamidru The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yum.
uh Z could I uh? have some? |
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Ziola The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Of course  |
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wintermute The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Eric wrote: | Doh! I want to change my answer! I was assuming that the treadmill was running backwards to push the plane forwards. |
You know what they say about assumptions
Now, if the treadmill were to come to a sudden dead-stop, even if the thrust stopped too...
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Killthesmiley The Order of Denderah

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: |
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well now i just want to see this done! _________________ kelly
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