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		ShardinsKitten Devoted Fan
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Facility J [Drop Contents] - "Dei Sub Numine Viget" | 
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				Drop Contents:
 
 
1 white envelope
 
1 plastic bag
 
8 stones (looks like graphite/granite pebbles)
 
2 viles (J-5 and J-6)
 
1 library card catalog 
 
 
- On the outside of the envelop it says "From Debrowski" ( I hope I spelled that right)
 
- Inside the plastic bag was the library card catalog 
 
-The front of the library card catalog said "International Conference of Chemical Education The 8th edition, 1985 in Tokyo"
 
- On the back it says (all hand written): "You should know what to do. I suppose it is time to tell you that what you have been destroying is"
 
-followed by these letters underneath: IKYOIYK
 
-then under neath the letters are these numbers: 1(+ 8 )  3(- 8 )  5(+ 16)  3(- 16)  6(+ 16)  2(- 16)  7(+ 24 )
 
 
Ok going to try to make this as clear as possible lol:
 
 
- The front (where the book listing is) of the card in the top left corner is{typed) :
 
(SQ)
 
QD40
 
.I536
 
1985
 
-Main contents of the front(typed):
 
International Conference on Chemical
 
  Education (8th : 1985 : Tokyo,
 
  Japan) Widening the scope of
 
  Chemistry... 1987.
 
 
Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry in
 
conjunction with the Chemical Society
 
of Japan"--P. [ii].
 
  Includes bibliographies.
 
ISBN 0-632-01537-3
 
 
  1. Chemistry--Study and teaching --
 
Congress. I. Takeuchi, Yoshito.
 
1934- II. International Union of
 
Pure and applied Chemistry. III.
 
Nihon Kagakkai, IV. Title.
 
 
870623           870622 NjP
 
ZG /ZG           A*     87-B28379
 
                 86-26421
 
 
- The front on the bottom left corner is (typed):
 
SQm
 
E000271
 
 
 
 
 
I will have pictures, hopefully later tonight, and at worst tomorrow morning. Sorry guys.
 
 
 
ETA: Pictures! This is the best his camera would pick it all up sorry...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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		Luminous Thor's Hammer
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Dei Sub Numine Viget- Drop Contents | 
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				 	  | ShardinsKitten wrote: | 	 		  Drop Contents:
 
 
1 white envelope
 
1 plastic bag
 
8 stones (looks like graphite/granite pebbles)
 
2 viles (J-5 and J-6)
 
1 library card catalog 
 
 
- On the outside of the envelop it says "From Debrowski" ( I hope I spelled that right)
 
- Inside the plastic bag was the library card catalog 
 
-The front of the library card catalog said "International Conference of Chemical Education The 8th edition, 1985 in Tokyo"
 
- On the back it says: "You should know what to do. I suppose it is time to tell you that what you have been destroying is"
 
-followed by these letters underneath: IKYOIYK
 
-then under neath the letters are these numbers: 1(+8 ) 3(-8 ) 5(+16) 3(-16) 6(+16) 2(-16) 7(+28 )
 
 
 
I will have pictures, hopefully later tonight, and at worst tomorrow morning. Sorry guys. | 	  
 
 
No apologies necessary! You and FiremanDan are awesome   You did a great job!
 
 
Thanks for posting. _________________ You made a wise choice, Bree.
 
There's no place like home.
 
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		TOSG Devoted Fan
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Nice work!  Looks like we might need to send someone up to look at that library book. | 
			 
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		trainer101 Moderator Manager
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				1985	
 
5489	
 
8TH INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON CHEMICAL EDUCATION WIDENING THE SCOPE OF CHEMISTRY :PLENARY AND INVITED LECTURES AND SELECTED CONTRIBUTIONS	
 
IUPAC AND THE CHEMICAL SOCIETY OF JAPAN	
 
BLACKWELL SCIENTIFIC	
 
0-632-01537-3	
 
HELD IN TOKYO JAPAN, 23-28 AUGUST 1985
 
 
From http://www.chemistry.or.jp/library/kokusaikaigi2004.html
 
 
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		janesalteredstates Devoted Fan
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I'm just collecting information that may or may not be of use.
 
 
IKYOIYK 
 
Atomic numbers of
 
Iodine (I)
 
Potassium (K)
 
Oxygen (O)
 
Yttrium (Y)
 
I = 53 K = 19 O = 8 Y = 39 
 
 
53 19 39 8 53 39 19?
 
 
Info on Yttrium Oxide 
 
Formula Y2O3 (sorry no subscript in BBCode)	
 
 
    * name: yttrium (III) oxide
 
    * formula weight: 225.81
 
    * formal oxidation number of Y: 3 _________________ “It takes a thousand voices to tell a single story. ”
 
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		Loki Lonely Fan
 
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Interesting theory... but there's only one problem (and possibly more).
 
 
First: 3-8 = -5, not +5
 
 
Second: how did you apply the sequence? _________________ A trickster god with a modern twist.
 
 
Everything is not as it first appears.
 
 
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		janesalteredstates Devoted Fan
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Loki wrote: | 	 		  Interesting theory... but there's only one problem (and possibly more).
 
 
First: 3-8 = -5, not +5
 
 
Second: how did you apply the sequence? | 	  
 
 
Oh darn it  
 
 
I just used the number and counted forward if the number was positive, from the back if negative.
 
 
that would make it: itnocid 
 
 
Sorry, I'm just bored.   _________________ “It takes a thousand voices to tell a single story. ”
 
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		Ziola The Order of Denderah
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				From earlier threads, I believe that the numbers indicate a cipher, in which the letter needs to be moved forward or backwards according to the number in parenthesis.  
 
 
EEK!!  So, that sort of doesn't make sense.  Let me try again...each letter has a number assigned to it (a=1, b=2, ect.).  The numbers in parenthesis indicate how many letters you should move so, going along with my original number sequence 1(+  would mean that a actually becomes i (I think that's how it works    ) | 
			 
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		janesalteredstates Devoted Fan
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Thanks Ziola. I am dumb.
 
 
So how do you know what letters to use? 
 
How was this used last time?
 
 
There is more info coming, however, if a certain firefighter stops goofing off    _________________ “It takes a thousand voices to tell a single story. ”
 
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		Ziola The Order of Denderah
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Janes, 
 
That I don't know.  I know that it all relates to DNA somehow usually, but other then that I haven't got a clue...as usual    | 
			 
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		deagol Thor's Hammer
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The numbers tell you which letter to choose from a list of protein names. e.g from the last puzzle:
 
 
The DNA translated into this protein chain: H S L H E
 
7(-11) 3(+1) 4 2 6(-9)
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  Histidine_Serine_Leucine_Histidine_Glutamate
 
      ^     ^       ^     ^             ^   
 
      7     3       4     2             6
 
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Which results in IRCIM, and the shifts (-11 1 0 0 -9) then gave XSCID | 
			 
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		janesalteredstates Devoted Fan
  
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				edit: I'm sorry. I just realized you were using the last puzzle as an example. I am not smart.
 
 
However, I do understand what the numbers do now. Thank you. _________________ “It takes a thousand voices to tell a single story. ”
 
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Hmm I thought I would try a bit of decoding myself, but I'm not sure I'm going about this right. 
 
 
I took the letters IKYOIYK and applied the numbers to them to get:
 
 
I +8= Q
 
Y- 8 = Q
 
I + 16= Y
 
Y - 16= I
 
Y + 16= U
 
K + 28= M
 
 
So the final answer is QQYIOUM (unless I really suck at counting)
 
 
But from here I'm not sure what to do.  I thought I would throw it into a tinyurl to see what happens but got nothing.  So that isn't it.  It isn't a part of a protein sequence either.  So I have no idea.
 
 
Please tell me if I did it correct.     I haven't played much ARGs but this one has a lot of biology in it so I'm really interested now!  I have to go and read all the old threads so I can figure out how these puzzles work... | 
			 
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		Ziola The Order of Denderah
  
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				 Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				*is waiting for someone who has a clue how to do this to show up*
 
 
 
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