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0162- "Psychological Torture" [3/29/07]
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robtomorrow
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogo wrote:
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As far as this video goes, I really wasn't bothered by the "voice from beyond." I was honestly interested in the video, and I found our trio's acting engaging. I guess I do feel like the stakes are higher now, however, and the next videos will have to be intense and continue this abduction storyline clearly to its end and deliver some answers to viewers concerns.


In other words the heat is on! (poor guys)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stella73 wrote:
Just a thought, if the abductor is in the room with B D & J why would he/she need to disguise their voice. I think the answer maybe rather simple it's a character we know that they do not want to reveal. Perhaps Bree's mother since she's supposedly high up in the order. It also wouldn't make sense to distort the voice since it's classified as a private transmission, why would they need to do that, wouldn't the order know already who abducted them?


True True. Even if it was Bree's mom, we don't know what her voice sounds like so all we would hear was a women's voice. There was really no point that I could tell.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Stephen Hawking works for the Order? It would have been much creepier with gogo's voice, though.

I liked this one. It's jarring and weirdly paced, and all around unsettling. Beats the hell out of more driving around aimlessly.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stella73 wrote:
Just a thought, if the abductor is in the room with B D & J why would he/she need to disguise their voice. I think the answer maybe rather simple it's a character we know that they do not want to reveal. Perhaps Bree's mother since she's supposedly high up in the order. It also wouldn't make sense to distort the voice since it's classified as a private transmission, why would they need to do that, wouldn't the order know already who abducted them?


Maybe it's just distorted for us but not them. ? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EEVEE wrote:
stella73 wrote:
Just a thought, if the abductor is in the room with B D & J why would he/she need to disguise their voice. I think the answer maybe rather simple it's a character we know that they do not want to reveal. Perhaps Bree's mother since she's supposedly high up in the order. It also wouldn't make sense to distort the voice since it's classified as a private transmission, why would they need to do that, wouldn't the order know already who abducted them?


Maybe it's just distorted for us but not them. ? Confused


Or maybe the voice is coming out of a little box on a table, while some black-clad Orderbot is holding the camera and standing there silent. That would be a little off-putting.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The voice ruins it for me. Rolling Eyes

It seems that they're being hypnotized or worn down slowly by drugs and/or a lack of sleep. I'm praying that Tachyon saves the day. Or better yet... Cassie. A -real- Cassie. Or her Dad. We never actually SAW him die, did we?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravensnow27 wrote:
So, When jonas was asked how his parents died I'm pretty sure he said he didn't want to say...then ltr he was told you wouldn't want something like that to happen to your friend bree......but it was never actually said what happened to his parents? But aren't his parents still alive? so what happened to them, were they brainwashed? Is that what they threatened to do to Bree? WTF!!! Argh....what are they doing to Jonas and what did they tell him between shots.


I'm pretty sure he said he didn't want to play
Hence later the voice said "This is not a game"
*WHICH was definitely a pun.. TiNaG anyone? haha i miss the ARG*

But anyway.. I got the feeling they showed him or told him something about his parents between shots too. I guess they don't need to waste film on taht because the Order already knows. Just to show how things are coming along with the torture.
It's strange that they called it torture... Not many evil people are like "Yeah look I'm torturing people ahhhahaha"
I guess they're all a bunch of sociopaths..sweet. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Creators wrote:
Unfortunately, the audio exported incorrectly. There's clicking and the voice is messed up. Yup, still having editing problems. Sad We will attempt to fix the problem, re-export the video, and upload a new version... but it's going to take all night. So, in the meantime we hope that you understand. As always we are doing this thing on the partial thread of a shoestring. Thanks.

The Creators

While I do acknowledge and appreciate the fact that you admit the problem and promise to fix it (especially since it proves I wasn't just artificially bitching, but actually right Mr. Green ), I still don't quite understand how it even passed quality control?

I mean, don't you watch the video at least one last time before uploading it?


(btw, sorry if I was a little harsh with the firing suggestion and everything...I know from my own, very recent, experience how quickly such noise builds up - maybe I was a little oversensitive to it because of that. It just sounds very, very unprofessional for a production that got world-wide media attention, and I just don'T understand why you didn't notice it before uploading...?)

@gogo: So basically, we're both nice and mean no harm
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It definitely couldn't be bree's parents... or she would have recognized them. As would daniel. Right?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renegade wrote:

While I do acknowledge and appreciate the fact that you admit the problem and promise to fix it (especially since it proves I wasn't just artificially bitching, but actually right Mr. Green ), I still don't quite understand how it even passed quality control?

I mean, don't you watch the video at least one last time before uploading it?


(btw, sorry if I was a little harsh with the firing suggestion and everything...I know from my own, very recent, experience how quickly such noise builds up - maybe I was a little oversensitive to it because of that. It just sounds very, very unprofessional for a production that got world-wide media attention, and I just don'T understand why you didn't notice it before uploading...?)

@gogo: So basically, we're both nice and mean no harm


Since quite a few people were getting rather impatient while waiting for a new video, maybe the creators decided it would be better to upload the video anyway, despite the (what I personally think are minor) faults in sound?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luzdzus wrote:
I liked this one. It's jarring and weirdly paced, and all around unsettling. Beats the hell out of more driving around aimlessly.


I agree. So please, let's not complain. I'd rather watch this than what we had before. Maybe some answers are on the way.

I actually thought of the idea of a voice disguiser thing. And that maybe it was a female: oppy or Bree's mom. Who knows.

A question I'm wondering about is this:
The way the kids are talking to the camera, it seems like they are looking at a person. Also, the camera moved a little, so someone must have been holding it. I'm wondering if they saw the person's face, or if they were being creepy and wearing a mask or a cloak or something. If they could see the face, they must not have known the person. They wouldn't have asked who are you if it was someone they knew. I am also curious as to whether they heard a true voice or if they heard the same altered voice we heard.

I actually just thought of an idea. What if Alex or Bree's mom or someone random decided to kidnap them for the Order and question them? And they are sending this video to the Order? But maybe they altered their voice because they don't want the Order to know it was them? nvm that's stupid. lol.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE MORE.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so my 2 cents, for what they are worth.

The basic premise of this video is simply to show what they have been going through since they were abducted. They have been dealing with days of this, so its only natural that eventually they would get worn down. I'm sure the video is only a sampling of what "actually" happened, to show the higher ups in the Order that the desired result has been achieved.

I feel as though the boys will return to their respective homes, none the wiser for all that has gone on. Tachyon will return, all sorts of pissed off and jar their memories and they will attempt to rescue Bree.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ViolinAddict wrote:
It definitely couldn't be bree's parents... or she would have recognized them. As would daniel. Right?

well we don't know for sure that the torturer was in the room , it could be a camera on them and some sort of speaker

or they could be robed and hooded

also I am happy the creators posted this even with the bad audio
quality be damned, people were anxiously waiting (well I was Rolling Eyes )

also when I listen with the headphones I hear Jonas say
" I don't wanna play anymore"

Jonas may have turned against the order once he got close to Bree , and no longer wants to "play" along.
This would explain the difference in his treatment.


edited to say forgive me if I am repeating what someone's already said , or for not acknowledging those making the same points , this board is reallly really slow!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2 cents...

Not creepy... like it should have been.

Why is the bathroom door open? That seems dumb.

The interrogator said they're running out of time (to perform the ceremony). That makes sense of the sudden kidnapping of BD&J.

I think they're keeping Jonas because they'd like to indoctrinate him into the Order.

I don't see the return of Tachyon happening this time. I think Bree will have to step up and fight... when the time comes. Which means I think we'll see them attempt the real ceremony.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hrm. something weird is going on. there are spelling and grammar mistakes in the description for this video and the last video. they're not huge or anything, but the person who's sending the transmissions seems to be a forum member Razz

for subjects apprehended:
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The grammar in the description is incorrect. The correct grammar would be "subjects' location confirmed." The apostrophe after "subjects" was omitted.


and for psychological torture:
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The Order misspelled "succesful" in their description. The correct spelling is "successful".


those are from the LGpedia!

p.s. i know my spelling and grammar are bad too! Razz
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