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What is the CEREMONY?!
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sack36 wrote:
Wouldn't it just be twisted enough for the Order to have used this logic when dealing with the HoO?


So how do you see that logic playing out?

(Oh, and slightly OT: sack, your huge animated smileys really give me a headache. They're out of proportion to everything else in the forum.)
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lehcarice9 wrote:
now i'll get back to studying so i dont re-ask questions again.


Welcome lehcarice9! I liked your questions, particularly the way you set out and thought about it from each angle. Though they have been discussed before, we do need to keep raising the unknowns and getting fresh perspectives. Very Happy

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I realize it's still just doing more speculation, but that reference by bree just rocked me. What if the ceremony involves the tracing of the meridian lines on the chosen to flay off the living flesh to eat to make a covenant?

To quote Bree again, "eww!" and how creepy do you have to be to think that up?

Boogieman Sack


Though your name contracts to the unfortunately initials BS ( Razz ), that theory is not. That's the most coherant theory I've heard so far. In fact, I think I'm backing it, it's got a real chance! Though where you have 'covenant' I would be equating more to a ritual to invoke the 'eternal life' aspect of blood and the consuming of flesh, which is a common symbolism for it.

Hmm, exciting thoughts *wanders off to ponder*
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: What is the CEREMONY?! Reply with quote

sack36 wrote:
The scar on her back is in the shape of HoO icon


Can you point out where this is explicitly stated from a canon source? I've heard of her having some sort of birth mark but never seen an original source stating it was in the shape of an HoO symbol, though I have heard it rumored.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: What is the CEREMONY?! Reply with quote

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sack36 wrote:
The scar on her back is in the shape of HoO icon


Can you point out where this is explicitly stated from a canon source? I've heard of her having some sort of birth mark but never seen an original source stating it was in the shape of an HoO symbol, though I have heard it rumored.

~tb


While it's not been stated flat out like that, it does look just like the Watcher symbol, and the Creators have admitted they told Jessica to get a bathing suit that would allow the symbol to be visible that low on her back:

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: What is the CEREMONY?! Reply with quote

Lurker wrote:
TheeBerean wrote:
sack36 wrote:
The scar on her back is in the shape of HoO icon


Can you point out where this is explicitly stated from a canon source? I've heard of her having some sort of birth mark but never seen an original source stating it was in the shape of an HoO symbol, though I have heard it rumored.

~tb


While it's not been stated flat out like that, it does look just like the Watcher symbol, and the Creators have admitted they told Jessica to get a bathing suit that would allow the symbol to be visible that low on her back:





I always thought it was a lens flair or a reflection from the sun and water. I passed it off as fan-fic and some photoshop. I missed that the creators asked her to specifically show this. When was that? Let me know if you remember specifically.

Well. Here's what I was thinking while doing the dishes.

Maybe The Order wants to preserve Bree's body?
Like freeze her or something? I don't know. It just popped in my mind and gave me the heebie geebies.

And I bet that's no birthmark at all. I'll bet they branded her.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: What is the CEREMONY?! Reply with quote

voyboy wrote:

Maybe The Order wants to preserve Bree's body?


Who wouldn't? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: What is the CEREMONY?! Reply with quote

impulse wrote:
voyboy wrote:

Maybe The Order wants to preserve Bree's body?


Who wouldn't? Smile


bah dum bump!

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: What is the CEREMONY?! Reply with quote

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I always thought it was a lens flair or a reflection from the sun and water. I passed it off as fan-fic and some photoshop. I missed that the creators asked her to specifically show this. When was that? Let me know if you remember specifically.


It was in the third airing of Mixed Media, I believe. When they had Jess as the guest.

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And I bet that's no birthmark at all. I'll bet they branded her.


Same here.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh I thought they might have branded her too! Glad I'm nto the only one who thinks of these weird things when I'm washing up...!
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditto, god we all just have great minds think alikes here Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: What is the CEREMONY?! Reply with quote

voyboy wrote:
And I bet that's no birthmark at all. I'll bet they branded her.


Me too. Like ....cattle.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm off to wash up now, I wonder what crazy things I'lll think of!
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I like the theories that everyone is coming up with here. I think that I might have some more evidence to support the theory of the Ceremony involving someone eating Bree. According to the LGPedia, Thelema was created by Aleister Crowley as a religion with some Ancient Greek references. A great example is the name Thelema translates to 'will' in Ancient Greek.
You might be wondering how this relates to Cannibalism. Well, thanks to the wonderful invention called wikipedia, I looked up cannibalism to try to find something that references Thelema with cannibalism. Well, I did find this:
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A number of stories in Greek mythology involve cannibalism, in particular cannibalism of close family members, for example the stories of Thyestes, Tereus and especially Cronus, who was Saturn in the Roman pantheon. The story of Tantalus also parallels this. These mythologies inspired Shakespeare's cannibalism scene in Titus Andronicus.

So, if certain Greek myths referenced Cannibalism and Thelema is Greek for 'Will', then maybe there can be more Ancient Greek influences in the religion. This might be the reason why eating Bree might sound like a great idea for the Order.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice research!
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowherepixie wrote:
Nice research!

Thanks Very Happy
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