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		| trainer101 Moderator Manager
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I guess we should have titled this thread "Who Was Isaac Gilman". Isaac is DEAD. Killed in a car crash on December 31, 2006 - the same day Bree's dad was shot. Seems he was working with Bree's dad to make Bree trait negative. _________________
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		| jdolorous Casual Observer
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| What about his son Spencer? Someone seems to have found his myspace. _________________
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		| MrLonelyGirl15 Casual Observer
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| it is very interesting they were killed on the same day. _________________
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		| Rekidk Casual Observer
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | MrLonelyGirl15 wrote: |  	  | it is very interesting they were killed on the same day. | 
 
 Well, it definitely makes the Order's intentions (to keep Bree trait positive) very clear.
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| My first impression was that Isaac and Bree's dad were the same guy. Because the 'mistress' was talking about how Issac had another home and a marriage that wasn't about love. And I'm sure the Order would tell the guy's friends and family that the way he died was in some accident instead of being shot. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I'm pretty sure the phone call was between Bree's dad and Isaac. That would mean they can't be the same person. 	  | frankenstein girl wrote: |  	  | My first impression was that Isaac and Bree's dad were the same guy. Because the 'mistress' was talking about how Issac had another home and a marriage that wasn't about love. And I'm sure the Order would tell the guy's friends and family that the way he died was in some accident instead of being shot. | 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Ohhhh ok. |  | 
	
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		| garnet Lonely Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Rekidk wrote: |  	  | 
 Well, it definitely makes the Order's intentions (to keep Bree trait positive) very clear.
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 It also supports the idea that the order is working on a formula to prolong life.  That would be one of the few ways to rationalize killing someone -- if keeping Bree trait positive would actually save lives.
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		| JustAnotherLonelyGirl. P. Monkey's Agent
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| save THEIR lives. not Bree's. _________________
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		| ChelseaF Casual Observer
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I posted this in the vids forum, but I thought you'd all like to see it as well, seeing as it fits better here. 
 I was rewatching vids today to catch my boyfriend up and came across something interesting.  In the "My Hand Hurts" video, where Jonas breaks into Alex's office, he lists a bunch of occupations of missing and dead people that Alex compiled.  One of them was a regenerative medical specialist.  Jonas even emphasizes it by stopping to say, "Sounds important."  Think this could be Isaac?
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		| JustAnotherLonelyGirl. P. Monkey's Agent
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yes I remember that clearly now that you mention it. At the time, I think a lot of us speculated that it was significant since he emphasized it, and that possibly it was a co-worker of Bree's dad. 
 It would be pretty cool if we were right.
 I think you definitely found something there.
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