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Demand the creators keep Yousef? (IF they seriously considered dumping him)
Yes, it just wouldn't be the same.
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No, it'd be a bigger waste of time.
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lesbrent
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Languorous Lass wrote:
lesbrent wrote:

I disagree and think they only said that the fans changed the storyline to say they are using fan input. The secret society cult thing has been the secondary storyline - Bree and Daniel's relationship was the primary.


Do you have any facts to back up your suspicion?


The videos themselves. Do you have any facts to back up that the Creators have been 100% honest? What other fan involvement have you seen? Do you know any fans who have gotten paid for their work?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lesbrent wrote:
Languorous Lass wrote:
lesbrent wrote:

I disagree and think they only said that the fans changed the storyline to say they are using fan input. The secret society cult thing has been the secondary storyline - Bree and Daniel's relationship was the primary.


Do you have any facts to back up your suspicion?


The videos themselves. Do you have any facts to back up that the Creators have been 100% honest? What other fan involvement have you seen? Do you know any fans who have gotten paid for their work?


How does that prove anything, though? For all we know, Yousef may have done something that he deserved to get fired for...but if the creatatrons say that you won't believe them because of how this series started? Come on, now...



*edit* actually, disregard...as all I ever want to do is argue...that's all I've ever done on these forums, you know. I'm just a negative nelly, arguing and over reacting all over these fora.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in all fairness, and I am fair, no way will I believe the creators over Yousef! Yousef is an awesome person.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lesbrent wrote:
in all fairness, and I am fair, no way will I believe the creators over Yousef! Yousef is an awesome person.


That's biased and not very fair. You make assumptions without all the facts, even from Yousef. You don't know him personally, so it's a bit of a stretch to go through these lengths from a snippet of a blog. But, that's my opinion, definitely not an argument.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kasdeja wrote:
lesbrent wrote:
in all fairness, and I am fair, no way will I believe the creators over Yousef! Yousef is an awesome person.


That's biased and not very fair. You make assumptions without all the facts, even from Yousef. You don't know him personally, so it's a bit of a stretch to go through these lengths from a snippet of a blog. But, that's my opinion, definitely not an argument.


Dude, whatever. How do you know if I know him or not?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. Dude. Whatever.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kasdeja wrote:
lesbrent wrote:
in all fairness, and I am fair, no way will I believe the creators over Yousef! Yousef is an awesome person.


That's biased and not very fair. You make assumptions without all the facts, even from Yousef. You don't know him personally, so it's a bit of a stretch to go through these lengths from a snippet of a blog. But, that's my opinion, definitely not an argument.


You don't have to have met someone to know them well, I have many online friends who I have met on forums and spoken to online through msn and I would say that I know them very well.

This could be the case if lesbrent has been emailing or messaging yousef
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that was the case...lesbrent would know more than we do, right? Either way, this has all just turned way too silly.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've messaged on myspace and he joined another fan site with my request and answered a bunch of stuff there. I don't *know* him but what I do *know* of him and about him, I can access that he is a very nice person. And yes, I'd believe him over a creator anyday.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kasdeja wrote:
lesbrent wrote:
in all fairness, and I am fair, no way will I believe the creators over Yousef! Yousef is an awesome person.


That's biased and not very fair. You make assumptions without all the facts, even from Yousef. You don't know him personally, so it's a bit of a stretch to go through these lengths from a snippet of a blog. But, that's my opinion, definitely not an argument.



I have spoken to Yousef.
I have never spoken to the Creators.
Yousef is very honest and very open.

I believe Yousef.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never spoken to either, but Yousef didn't post enough for me to start bashing people on the forum. He didn't post a reason. It's not enough. It's one little blog. If you people know him, ask him and post his response.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: My thoughts Reply with quote

I think it call comes down to what really happened. If this is part of the story all along that Dan would get killed then while surprising and kind of a downer, I’d be willing to see where this goes. I always thought that the story needed a body count and that was part of the problem of only having the two main characters.

If this is seriously about Yousef’s acting, I can’t even imagine what they are thinking. If they had a problem with him, that’s something that should have been addressed in the beginning. You need to either suck it up and deal with his acting or work with him more to get the performance you want. But replacing him at this stage of the game is ridiculous. I would be willing to start using the term “hacks” if they did something that amateurish.

If this turns out to be a problem with the actor Yousef…well depending on the situation they are in a rough spot. Do you put up with a problem for the greater good or do you cut the cancer off at the root. Again I’m not saying this is the case I’m just speculating on the only reasons I can think of. This certainly would not be the first example of a high profile actor getting booted off their own show because they were an ass.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go Les,I just got a message from him and so did Hyemew,

So Yes I believe him way over the creators anyday
At least he is honest to the core (for anyone that has never read hisMysp Blog you will not understand)
He is a genuinely nice and clever guy
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: My thoughts Reply with quote

thejyav wrote:
I think it call comes down to what really happened. If this is part of the story all along that Dan would get killed then while surprising and kind of a downer, I’d be willing to see where this goes. I always thought that the story needed a body count and that was part of the problem of only having the two main characters.


If this was the plan all along the surely Yousef would have been told this nearer the begining rather than now?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone had mentioned something about the actors on the show not getting their scripts until last minute or something
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