Lonelygirl15

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"There does exist . . . "
•The Guardians of the Seed of Creation (DNA - Knowledge Encoded within the Seed)
•The Teachers and Healers
•The Protectors of the Bloodline
•The Record Keepers
•The Watchers
•The Conspirators
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When I first began reading and then posting on the LG forums, there wasn’t too much interest in Illuminati theories – at the time, Thelema was the prevailing school of thought regarding Bree’s “religion”.

Recently, however, there seems to be an increased interest in Illuminati related questions, answers, and theories. Many more forum members are participating in the discussion and doing some excellent research. I hope we can use this thread to foster discussion of the Illuminati and related “Secret Societies” and to see it we can come up with a comprehensive theory regarding their role (if any) in the LG storyline. SarawithouttheH, iqfrenzy, JustAnotherLonelyGirl, Languorous Lass, Luv2Skydive, imogene2004 and anyone else interested - Come on in, the waters fine! It would be great to move your research here for consolidation.

I’d also like to encourage the forum members following the OpAphid/Tachyon storyline to share your thoughts, and theories also as I am of the belief that these parallel storylines will intersect sometime in the future (but then, I have been accused of having a thing for conspiracy theories )
NOTE: It has now been confirmed that OpAphid is a related storyline. (Maybe I haven't lost my mind after all.)

**Thanks to Ravensgrace for coming up with the idea for this thread – I look forward to a fun, interesting and entertaining discussion with you and others**
**Also, thanks to Nikki Bower for not thinking that I'm TOTALLY crazy (maybe just a little )

PS - to the mods: I posted this in plot discussion to see if we can eventually tie some pieces and storylines together
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To lay a foundation for discussion...

**WARNING** This is a lengthy dissertation and may not be all that much fun or interesting for anyone except real diehards - feel free to skip it (it you really, REALLY want to ). Or, if you have absolutely no patience, you can read the short version on Wikipedia - but it may leave you feeling decidedly un-illuminated.

Illuminati – The Beginning

The Illuminati is the name of many groups, modern and historical, real and fictitious, verified and alleged. Most commonly The Illuminati refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment secret society. However, it often refers to an alleged shadowy conspiratorial organization that controls world affairs behind the scenes, usually a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati. Illuminati is sometimes used synonymously with New World Order.

Origins
Since 'Illuminati' translates to 'enlightened ones' in Latin, it is natural that several unrelated historical groups have identified themselves as Illuminati. Often, this was due to claims of possessing gnostic texts or other arcane information not generally available.

The designation illuminati was in use from the 14th century by the Brethren of the Free Spirit. In the 15th century the name was adopted by other enthusiasts who claimed that the illuminating light came, not by communication from an authoritative or secret source, but from within, as the result of exalted consciousness, or "enlightenment".
Alumbrados of Spain

To the gnostic class belong the alumbrados of Spain. The historian Marcelino Menendez y Pelayo found the name as early as 1492 (in the form aluminados, 1498), and traced the group to a Gnostic origin. He thought their views were promoted in Spain through influences from Italy. One of their earliest leaders, born in Salamanca, was a labourer's daughter known as La Beata de Piedrahita. She came to the notice of the Inquisition in 1511, by claiming to hold colloquies with Jesus and the Virgin Mary; some high patronage saved her from a rigorous denunciation. (Menendez Pelayo, Los Heterodoxos Espanoles, 1881, vol. V.). Ignatius of Loyola, while studying at Salamanca in 1527, was brought before an ecclesiastical commission on a charge of sympathy with the alumbrados, but escaped with an admonition.

Others were not so fortunate. In 1529 a congregation of naive adherents at Toledo was subjected to whippings and imprisonment. Greater rigors followed, and for about a century alleged connection with the alumbrados sent many to the Inquisition, especially at Cordoba.

Illuminés of France
The movement (under the name of Illuminés) seems to have reached France from Seville in 1623, and attained some following in Picardy when joined (1634) by Pierce Guerin, curé of Saint-Georges de Roye, whose followers, known as Gurinets, were suppressed in 1635.

A century later, another, more obscure body of Illuminés came to light in the south of France in 1722, and appears to have lingered till 1794, having affinities with those known contemporaneously in the United Kingdom as 'French Prophets', an offshoot of the Camisards.

Rosicrucians
Different from the Illuminés were the Rosicrucians, who claimed to have originated in 1407, but rose to notice in 1614 when their main text Fama Fraternitatis appeared. As a secret society, they claimed to combine the possession of esoteric principles of religion with the mysteries of alchemy. Their positions are described in three anonymous treatises from 1614 (mentioned in Richard and Giraud, Dictionnaire universel des sciences ecclésiastiques, Paris 1825), as well as in the Confessio Fraternitatis of 1615. Rosicrucians also claimed heritage from the Knights Templar.

Martinists
Later, the title Illuminati was applied to the French Martinists, which had been founded in 1754 by Martinez Pasqualis, and to their imitators the Russian Martinists, headed about 1790 by Professor Schwartz of Moscow; both were occultist cabalists and allegorists, absorbing eclectic ideas from Jakob Boehme and Emanuel Swedenborg.


The Bavarian Illuminati

History
A movement of freethinkers that were the most radical offshoot of The Enlightenment — whose adherents were given the name Illuminati (but who called themselves "Perfectibilists") — was founded on May 1, 1776 by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830), who was the first lay professor of canon law. The group has also been called the Illuminati Order, the Order of the Illuminati, and the Bavarian Illuminati. In 1777, Karl Theodor, Elector of Palatinate, succeeded as ruler of Bavaria. He was a proponent of Enlightened Despotism and in 1784, his government banned all secret societies, including the Illuminati and the Freemasons.

The structure of the Illuminati soon collapsed, but while it was in existence many influential intellectuals and progressive politicians counted themselves as members. Its members were supposedly drawn primarily from Masons and former Masons, and although some Masons were known to be members there is no evidence that it was supported by Freemasons. Indeed, membership in the Illuminati, unlike that in Freemasonry, did not require belief in a Supreme Being. As a result, atheists and agnostics, having only the former organization open to them, congregated disproportionately in it; this over-representation, taken along with the Illuminati's largely humanist and anti-clerical bent, likely accounts for many of the charges of atheism leveled at the alleged world conspiracy of which the Illuminati supposedly remain a part.

The Illuminati's members pledged obedience to their superiors, and were divided into three main classes: the first, known as the Nursery, encompassed the ascending degrees or offices of Preparation, Novice, Minerval and Illuminatus Minor; the second, known as the Masonry, consisting of the ascending degrees of Illuminatus Major and Illuminatus dirigens, the latter also sometimes called Scotch Knight; the third, designated the Mysteries, was subdivided into the degrees of the Lesser Mysteries (Presbyter and Regent) and those of the Greater Mysteries (Magus and Rex). Relations with Masonic lodges were established at Munich and Freising in 1780.

The order had its branches in most countries of the European continent; its members were reportedly around 2,000 members in the span of 10 years. The scheme had its attraction for literary men, such as Goethe and Herder, and even for the reigning dukes of Gotha and Weimar. Internal rupture preceded its downfall, which was effected by an edict of the Bavarian government in 1785.

Cultural Effect
The Bavarian Illuminati have cast a long shadow in popular history thanks to the writings of their opponents; the lurid allegations of conspiracy that have colored the image of the Freemasons have practically opaqued that of the Illuminati. In 1797, Abbe Augustin Barruél published Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism outlining a vivid conspiracy theory involving the Knights Templar, the Rosicrucians, the Jacobins and the Illuminati. A Scottish Mason and professor of natural history named John Robison started to publish Proofs of a Conspiracy Against all the Religions and Governments of Europe in 1798. Robison claimed to present evidence of an Illuminati conspiracy striving to replace all world religions with humanism and all nations with a single world government.

More recently, Antony C. Sutton suggested that the secret society Skull and Bones was founded as the American branch of the Illuminati; others think Scroll and Key had Illuminati origins, as well. Writer Robert Gillette claimed that these Illuminati ultimately intend to establish a world government through assassination, bribery, blackmail, the control of banks and other financial powers, the infiltration of governments, mind control, and by causing wars and revolution to move their own people into higher positions in the political hierarchy.

Thomas Jefferson, on the other hand, claimed they intended to spread information and the principles of true morality. He attributed the secrecy of the Illuminati to what he called "the tyranny of a despot and priests".

Both sides seem to agree that the enemies of the Illuminati were the monarchs of Europe and the Church; Barruél claimed that the French revolution (1789) was engineered and controlled by the Illuminati through the Jacobins, and later theorists even claimed their responsibility for the Russian Revolution (1917), although the order was officially shut down before 1789. Few historians give credence to these views; they regard such claims as the products of over-fertile imaginations.

Conspiracy theorists highlight the link between the Illuminati and Freemasonry. It is also suggested that the United States' founding fathers — some being Freemasons — were rife with corruption from the Illuminati. Often the symbol of the all-seeing pyramid in the Great Seal of the United States is cited as an example of the Illuminati's ever-present watchful eye over Americans.

While Weishaupt's group did not survive into the 19th century, several groups have since used the name Illuminati to found their own rites, claiming to be the Illuminati. Groups describing themselves as Illuminati say they have members and chapters (lodges) throughout the world.

About the time that the Illuminati were outlawed in Bavaria, the Roman Catholic Church prohibited its members from joining Masonic lodges, on pain of excommunication. This was done as a general edict, since the Church believed many lodges to have been infiltrated and subverted by the Illuminati, but was not able to accurately ascertain which ones. Cardinal Ratzinger (later to become Pope Benedict XVI) stated, in a document by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on November 26, 1983, that the "Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and, therefore, membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful, who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion."

According to Principia Discordia and several other Discordian works, the Bavarian Illuminati was revived or rediscovered in the 20th Century under the leadership of Mordecai Malignatus (Robert Anton Wilson, who also wrote about the group under the pennames Mordecai the Fowl and Reverend Loveshade). In the original Steve Jackson Games card game Illuminati and in the trading card game Illuminati: New World Order that's based on it, the Bavarian Illuminati is an enemy organization of the Discordians.

Side note: Golden Dawn Society
At the end of the nineteenth and beginning of the twentieth century, a secret "initiatory" society of Rosicrucian inspiration formed and was called the Golden Dawn. Its members included some of the most brilliant minds in the country.
The Golden Dawn, founded in 1887, was an offshoot of the English Rosicrucian Society created twenty years earlier by Robert Wentworth Little, and consisted largely of leading Freemasons. The latter society had about 144 members, including Bulwer Lytton, author of The Last Days of Pompeii.
The Golden Dawn, with a smaller membership, was formed for the practice of ceremonial magic and the acquisition of initiatory knowledge and powers. Its leaders were Woodman, Mathers and Wynn Westcott (the "occultist" mentioned by Toulet in his letter of 1900).
It was in contact with similar German societies, some of whose members were later associated with Rudolf Steiner's famous anthroposophical movement and other influential sects during the pre-Nazi period. Later on it came under the leadership of Aleister Crowley, an altogether extraordinary man who was certainly one of the greatest exponents of the neo-paganism whose development in Germany we have noted.
S.L. Mathers, after the death of Woodman and the resignation of Westcott, was the Grand Master of the Golden Dawn, which he directed for some time from Paris, where he had just married Henri Bergson's daughter.

References
•1911 Encyclopædia Britannica: "Illuminati"
•America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones — Antony C. Sutton (Trine Day, LLC, 2003)
•Cooper, Milton William (1991). Behold a Pale Horse. Light Technology Publications. ISBN 0-929385-22-5.
•The Cosmic Conspiracy — Deyo, Stan (Adventures Unlimited Press, Illinois, 1994)
•The Illuminati 666 — Sutton, Josiah William (Teach Services, Inc, New York, 1983).
•Proof of a Conspiracy Against all the Religions and Governments of Europe — Robison, John A.M. (New York, 1798)
•Die Korrespondenz des Illuminatenordens. Bd. 1, 1776-81. Ed. by Reinhard Markner, Monika Neugebauer-Wölk and Hermann Schüttler. - Tübingen, Max Niemeyer, 2005. - ISBN 3-484-10881-9
•They Cast No Shadows: A Collection of essays on the Illuminati, revisionist history and suppressed technology — Desborough, Brian(Writers Club Press/ iUniverse.com, 2002) ISBN 0-595-21957-8
•Nyarlathotep, Frater & Jesse Lindsay: Ardeth - The Made Vampire. Lulu Press, 2006. ISBN 978-1-84728-516-4
•Barkun, Michael (2003). A Culture of Conspiracy: Apocalyptic Visions in Contemporary America. University of California Press, Berkeley. ISBN 0-520-23805-2.
•Freemasonry, EWTN Frequently asked questions
•Johnson, George (1983). Architects of Fear: Conspiracy Theories and Paranoia in American Politics. Los Angeles: Jeremy P. Tarcher, Inc.. ISBN 0-87477-275-3.
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Illuminati in Popular Culture

References to the Illuminati in popular culture include the satirical, humorous, and fictional:

Books and comics
Illuminatus! by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson is a three-book science fiction series published in the 1970s, which is regarded as a cult classic particularly in the hacker community. The occult group Illuminates of Thanateros can be safely assumed to have named itself inspired by this book and claims heritage to the Illuminati at least in spirit.

*Robert Anton Wilson also wrote The Historical Illuminati Chronicles in the early 1980s. While this too is a fictional account of a young Italian Freemason, the books are crammed with historical footnotes.

*Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum is a labyrinthine novel about all sorts of secret societies, including the Illuminati and the Rosicrucians.
Angels and Demons (German title: Illuminati, Dutch title: Het Bernini Mysterie), the precursor to The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown, is about an apparent Illuminati order plot to destroy its enemy the Catholic Church by using antimatter to blow up the Vatican while Papal elections are being held. In this novel the Illuminati movement was founded by Galileo Galilei, and others, as an enlightened reaction to persecution by the Catholic Church.

*The Principia Discordia, the infamous holy book of Discordianism, includes the Illuminati as one of the Greyface forces opposing Discordians.

*UK author Clive Barker, in his epic Imajica, imagines the Illuminati as a place where supernatural items are collected — and hidden/destroyed, so that the general public may never see them. Many of the items come from other dimensions, which the book expands on in great detail.

*In the DC Comics universe, there are at least two societies based on the Illuminati. The first was founded by Vandal Savage and Garn Danuuth in ancient Atlantis. The second was an organization known to its members as "Fiatlux" which was devoted to the release of a demon known as Hellrazer from the realm of Perdition.

*David Icke suggests that the Illuminati are a group of aliens that manipulate humanity and control world affairs.

*In David Craig Simpson's Ozy and Millie comic strip, much of the world is manipulated, though somewhat satirically, by a Dragon Illuminati, which works off the very chaos the world itself creates.

*In the Marvel Comics universe, the Illuminati was a secret clandestine group formed in the wake of the Kree-Skrull War, consisting of Iron Man, Professor X, Mister Fantastic, Doctor Strange, Namor, and Black Bolt. This group had its true purpose and history explained (at least partially) in the one-shot "New Avengers: Illuminati" which will lead into Marvel's big 2006 event, "Civil War". See Illuminati (Marvel Comics).

*In Michael Romkey's vampire novels, the Illuminati are an order of benevolent vampires, consisting of many famous figures throughout history (Beethoven, Mozart, etc.). The main character, David Parker, joins the order, but later leaves.

*In the Star Trek book The Eugenics Wars Vol. 2: The Rise And Fall Of Khan Noonian Singh, General Morrison believes that the Illuminati/New World Order is out to destroy his militia, and Roberta Lincoln reveals that she and Gary Seven have already destroyed the Illuminati
TV and movies

*In Simon West's movie Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) a group of high-society villains call themselves Illuminati, developing a plan to rule the world. They and Lara Croft's father claim that the Illuminati have existed for millennia for this purpose.

*The anime series Serial Experiments Lain contains some references to the Illuminati and the Majestic 12.

*In a recent episode of The Dead Zone it was hinted that the Illuminati will play a large role in the apocalypse that the show's protagonist John Smith is supposed to prevent.

*The German movie 23 has some references to Illuminati topics.

*In Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: The TV Show, an episode revolved around Illuminati members who were revealed to be aliens

*In several episodes of the Walt Disney animated series Gargoyles, one of the major antagonists of the series, David Xanatos, was revealed to be a member of the Illuminati. In one episode he travels back in time 1,000 years, flashes his Illuminati pin and it is acknowledged. The Gargoyles Illuminati was founded in 948 AD, eight centuries before the origins of the historical Bavarian Illuminati. The series ended before much was revealed about the order. It is rumored that if it had continued, it would eventually been revealed that the Illuminati had been founded by the immortal Sir Percival of the Round Table.

*In the original 1960 version of the film Ocean's Eleven at the church where the member of the who died is being cremated, at the front of the church on the wall the Illuminati symbol is clearley visible and the camera even, at one point looks directly at it.

*In 24, the last half of Season 5 gave birth to a character known as Graham with a loyal cabal around him. His secrecy and manipulation of the leaders of the US government has made viewers believe that he controls a secret society, one much like the Illuminati.

*In one episode in Justice League Unlimited, The Question was being tortured. During his torture, he said various things concerning conspiracies he investigated, one of which happened to be "The bullet was a weapon forged by Illuminati mystics to prevent us from knowing the truth". Also, The Question in the TV series was obsessed with discovering a secret organization he assumed was behind the conspiracy, heavily hinted to be the Illuminati.

Games
*Two games from Steve Jackson Games are based on the mythos: Illuminati and its trading card game reincarnation Illuminati: New World Order. "Secret conspiracies are everywhere, and where can you find the only truth? Certainly not in the game of Illuminati" states the advertising.

*The video game Deus Ex is about Majestic 12, a splinter group of the Illuminati, which attempts to control the world by manufacturing a virus and it's cure. After the player defeats Majestic 12 at the end of the game, the Illuminati once again returns to power and plays a larger role in the games sequel, Deus Ex: Invisible War, where it attempts to control the world by dividing the population into allegiance with either The Order or the WTO, but secretly controlling them both.

*The videogame Resident Evil 4 features its main plot as that of preventing a religious cult known as Los Illuminados, from ultimately ruling the world: using parasites — Las Plagas — to control and cleanse heathens.

*The video game Area 51 contains multiple references to the Illuminati.

*The story line of Street Fighter III revolves around an organization calling itself the Illuminati seeking to create a new utopia.

*In early editions of the Warhammer 40,000 table top miniatures game, these were humans who were possessed by daemons of Chaos, but were able to escape their grasp.

Music and audio
*The song "No Purpose No Design" by Meat Beat Manifesto has some references to Bavarian Illuminati.

*Fat Boy Slim has a song called "Illuminati"

*The Jurassic 5 song Concrete Schoolyard contains a passing illuminati reference.

*In September 2001 Gamma Ray released the album No World Order. It has several references to the Illuminati including the songs "Induction" and "New World Order" (both lyrics and music by Kai Hansen), and the booklet design (by Henjo Richter).

* The rap group Mobb Deep make many references to the Illuminati in their songs. 'The Illuminati wants my mind soul and my body, a secret society tryin' to keep their eye on me.'

*The punk group Rancid makes references to both secret societies and the Illuminati in the song "Life Won't Wait." They make such references as "the eye atop the pyramid is open and awake" and "division is the new world order." The song featured Buju Banton and Vic Ruggario as guests.

* The rapper Immortal Technique mentions the illuminati in some of his songs e.g. the cause of death "You think illuminati's just a fuckin conspiracy theory?"

*The Japanese rockband Malice Mizer has a song titled Illuminati, which combines the theme of sex with Biblical allusions and likens the experience to a religious ritual.

*Myron Fagan released a 3 disc lp in the late 1960s which explained a lot of the history of the Illuminati. He died a few years later from natural causes. Note: Myron Fagan also wrote the play "White Rose" - see the "Breakfast in Bed" video. Through his writings Fagan is tied to:
“White Roses”, Cats (Daniels avoidance of water), the Moon, Crowley, “The Great Power” and, of course, The Illuminati. Might be a good place for additional research.


*Myron Fagan's recording has also been sampled on several records by rap artist, Cage Kennylz, who has referred to the Illuminati in lyrics an uncountable amount of times. "Mason's keep calling me about my application, cause I dropped it off and thought knock it off, you can start your own club to plot and stuff" and "Oops, I spilled beer on the board, come find me later, while I conspire this Illuminati paper" (from "Perfect World").

*In 2003 US speed metal band Agent Steel released the album Order of the Illuminati. The band is well known for basing its lyrical concepts on conspiracy theories.

*The underground punk band Killer Squirrel recorded a song called "The Cowboy Illuminati Get Their Revenge" in 2005. The song also mentions the group called Skull and Bones based at Yale University. In 2004, Killer Squirrel released an album featuring an eye at the top of a pyramid on the cover.
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Bloodlines/DNA

Just tying some of the various ideas together.

Spaciegirl wrote:
So many theories....so little time. A lot of this stuff just enters my brain and quickly exits. The illuminati thing may be correct. Of course, with whatever whacked out "religion" this is suppsed to be...a blood/DNA theory could tie into "religion" as well. I don't kow why, but lately it's just become blatantly obvious to me that it has to be something like that. I don't see another option. I can't keep up with everything on the forum so maybe I'm late in realizing this...but I havent noticed anyone explicitly talking about it.

Thinkitthrough wrote:
The ceromony could be what ties in the importance of a blood line. A blood line that must not end becuase of a prophecy that was made long ago... or something to that nature. any thoughts on this? how does her religion work into it? Or is it purely a scientific study that is being done?

Minsky wrote:
My thoughts are it is a cult in the guise of a religion doing scientific experiments in genetics.

As some have suggested in the past I think the Bloodline and ceremony tie in somehow to some sort of genetic programming to produce children of certian bloodline/genetic makeup.

Madeliza wrote:
...the secret society could be something like the nights templar or a high-iq club or something. a group who posses, or believe they posess, special knowledge or insight or something. i'm feeling very da-vinci code over here... like that is why they want bree cos she has that special DNA...

khjq wrote:
hmm...I am begining to think that the "deacons" don't want Bree to do the "ceremony" for any religious purpose, but instead has something to do with her having the right DNA. See I think the "deacons" are really scientists and the "ceremony" is really an experiment, and the scientists have just been using this whole religion thing as a front.

spaciegirl wrote:
That's a possibility....I'm sayin, it's something about her blood. It's got to be. The only other thing I can think of is that maybe it has something to do with specific dates that are unique to her...like her birth date maybe.

This is a work in progress - feel free to add whatever I miss.
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"I spy with my little eye"

EDIT: Now that OpAphid has been confirmed, check out the videos for repeated use of "eye" symbolism.

Languorous Lass wrote:
"I spy with my little eye." Bree mentions this game several times. Maybe a clue? I know the Eye of Horus was mentioned a few times in the writings about Egyptian mythology that I've read.

Languorous Lass wrote:
So since Bree emphasized that game in the "On the Run" video, I took a look at the Wikipedia description of the Eye of Horus. (Why? Because in ancient Egypt, Horus was associated with Hathor and Nut, and in some mythologies he was thought to be the son of Nut.)

Anyway, the description says this about the Eye: "The ancients believed this symbol of indestructibility would assist in rebirth." Which goes right along with my theory that the ceremony involves a man (either Daniel or Bree's father) being sacrificed and immediately reborn.

At first when Gemma's most recent vid was posted, I figured my theory was toast. Then I took a look back at the sources of my information. The play that involves a sacrifice and rebirth was posted on the website of the O.T.O. -- or, as they call themselves, "the Ordo Templi Orientis, the Order of Oriental Templars, or Order of the Temple of the East."

The Order itself says that its structure is "like that of Freemasonry and the ancient mystery schools." It's not a religion per se, but "an Outer Thelemic Order which is dedicated to the high purpose of securing the Liberty of the Individual and his or her advancement in Light, Wisdom, Understanding, Knowledge, and Power through Beauty, Courage, and Wit, on the Foundation of Universal Brotherhood." So it's related to Thelema, but is not Thelema itself.

So my theory is entirely consistent with Gemma's "Learning Egyptian" vid and the clues in "On the Run."

trainer101 wrote:
"I Spy With My Little Eye"
by Barry R. Smith
First Published: 1999

http://www.barrysmith.org.nz/book/contispy.phtml

Contents
Preface: The Rat in the Cupboard
Foreword: Danger, Danger
Chapter 1: Witchcraft in Cairo
Chapter 2: The Significance of the Great Pyramid at Giza
Chapter 3: Time Gentlemen Please
Chapter 4: Precis Recap and Facts
Chapter 5: The Phoenix is Flying Again
Chapter 6: A Recap on the Plan
Chapter 7: The Lunatics Take Over
Chapter 8: Wake Up Please - You've Just Been Conned!
Chapter 9: Let's Identify Them
Chapter 10: New Zealand Innocently Borrowed Some Money
Chapter 11: Proof of a Conspiracy
Chapter 12: Think Tanks Named
Chapter 13: Challenge to the Sceptics
Chapter 14: New Zealand
Chapter 15: Other Countries Affected
Chapter 16: Further Indignities Heaped on New Zealand
Chapter 17: To Whet the Appetite
Chapter 18: The Illuminati
Chapter 19: America's Role in the New World Order
Chapter 20: The Illuminati and America the Horrible
Chapter 21: The Illuminati Chooses U.S. Presidents
Chapter 22: Let's Be Fair
Chapter 23: They've Sold the Gold
Chapter 24: The Y2K Bug
Chapter 25: Twin Problems Looming
Chapter 26: What on Earth is Going On?
Chapter 27: Come Back Henry Kissinger
Chapter 28: Bringing Down the Old Order
Chapter 29: Prophetically Speaking - Where Are We?
Chapter 30: The Answer
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[Morgan]

I must tell you of how I grew to really believe your case...


I had watched a LOT of lonelygirl15 and was a frequent lurker in the forums for a good while. I had my theories and guesses all about the plot and the "fan videos" that included Cassie and OpAphid.

Then I took a break from lonelygirl15 and started to watch some David Icke videos...

To tell you the truth, I believed all of his conclusions and started to become a little scared, especially at all the references to Illuminati in LG15. It really freaked me out.

But in summary, I wanted to say that I really think the two things fit together somehow. Keep posting, it's great reading.
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[islandlove]

this must have taken you forever.!

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[Ziola]

This is fantastic. I need to take a bit to really wrap my brain around it (sorry...slow retention speed ).

Thank you so much for all the info. It has really made it much easier for me to see why Illuminati really could be involved.

[watchingall]

Hi Trainer, and all!

Ive been following your theory Trainer but this is my first post. Excuse me if this has been pointed out somewhere else but I didnt see it.

In Survival Skills, she holds up 3 fingers together. Does this not look like the symbol you posted http://www.illuminati-news.com/graphics/illuminati(2).gif (sorry dunno how to attach img!)? It rather does to me. *shrug* Food for thought? I also noticed she replied to you under the your posts about it.

Again, sorry if this is pointed out already. Dont hurt a noob![/img]

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