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0087 "Jonas?" [11/30/06]
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Languorous Lass
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

silvermoon wrote:
I hate to say it, but she probably trusts him because she thinks he's hot.


Hee! Great minds, and all that . . .

CreativeBarbie wrote:
Its ok your totaly alowed to disagree :


Thanks! I was afraid of getting flamed. Embarassed Now I know I can trust you. (Yes, some of us have Trust Issues in RL . . .)

BrokenKid wrote:
they're instrumental to the storyline. If nothing else, they show a side of Bree and help relay what Bree's thinking or feeling. And they're cute!


I was about to say "Vomit." Then I realized that yesterday I drove by a Target and was seriously thinking about going in and looking for a P. Monkey. Oh, the shame . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DANIEL. Dump her! Leave! Go back to L.A. and make college party videos. But get the hell of of here. She's delusional. DUMP HER!


"that little rat is attached to her. It's like a cancer." Best line ever! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, it wouldn't be forcing her to grow up. Bree has always come across to me as very submissive. Yeah, she snuck out of the house, and yeah she said no to the ceremony- but I think only because she felt pressured to.

Some submissive people NEED someone dominate to take control.

She is regressing further and further backwards in her behaviors. I still think this may have something to do with the injections, either the injections were making her more confident, or this recent behavior is the result of not having them for awhile. Withdrawal maybe?

Also, I still keep going back to when Lucy told Bree it was ok to talk to her stuffed animals. There has to be something there. Whether it is a bug, a tracking device or something else. There is a reason a grown woman told a then 16 year old girl that it was perfectly fine to carry on conversations with hand puppets.
Now thats something interesting. The shots. That topic has been rather quiet in the vidoes as of late...We never did find out what they were. If they were some kind of drug, this could be withdrawal, or something of that nature. Or maybe they are just taking effect now. Aleister Crowley was heavy into drug experimentation as a way to have a religious experience. Although we did not see a tangiable effect at the time...it could be doing something now.
And as for him telling her to grow up and take control...I agree. Bree is a very vulnerable person, especially now. Perhaps the reason Jonas is so appealing is that he is offering a solution. If Daniel were to talk some sense into her, she would probably be just as responsive.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Languorous Lass wrote:


CreativeBarbie wrote:
Its ok your totaly alowed to disagree :


Thanks! I was afraid of getting flamed. Embarassed Now I know I can trust you. (Yes, some of us have Trust Issues in RL . . .)


I know i do. but i'm totaly ok with people not agreeing with what i say... seeing other views on things alow me to have a broader view of whats happening.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are also forgetting that Bree is deliberatly witholding information. She knows so much more about her religion than she is willing to discuss. There are reasons she doesn't want to go home, go to the authorities, etc.

It is time that Bree came clean. I personally think she is being very selfish by not telling at least Daniel the whole truth.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

omegawoman wrote:
We are also forgetting that Bree is deliberatly witholding information. She knows so much more about her religion than she is willing to discuss. There are reasons she doesn't want to go home, go to the authorities, etc.

It is time that Bree came clean. I personally think she is being very selfish by not telling at least Daniel the whole truth.


True. Its not fair when he has done so much for her.
I wonder what other things there are to know.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its hard to solve a puzzle when you dont have all the pieces, and thats what Daniel has been trying to do..I agree. Its time for him to get her to come clean...or atleast get her to say enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have stopped caring about what's the smart thing for Bree to do and just want her to go with Jonas because it's SOMEthing to happen. I enjoy LG15 (obviously, since I'm sticking around and care enough to post), but I think the main problem is that they progress too slowly. They introduce one possible twist (Jonas, for example), and people figure out that Bree is going to have a chance to go stay with him, and then by the time we've beaten that idea to death, it finally gets presented to Bree, and then we have to spend more time beating it to death, waiting for her to go through with it. And, I think, she must, for the sake of the story: why bother to set it up and then not follow through?

There is a lot repetition in this story, with all the fighting nad making up between Bree and Daniel. She sounds like a broken record lately, with the "I don't know who to trust" stuff. Regardless of whether it's a realistic reaction, it's boring in a story.

so, let's go!! I love Daniel, but if he and Bree split up for now, at least it's movement forward in the plot. They keep figuring out their next steps and making their decisions in slow motion, compared to how fast the audience figures out the next steps. Let's step on the gas and have some NEW conflict!!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

man, there'a a lot of controversy and back and forth for this video! I think that it makes sense for Daniel to be sick and tired of it all. I'm very happy that I'm not seeing a huge movement of people angry at him for considering it.
We got some good info on Daniel. This makes me think that this is what the big misunderstanding was with the "is Yousef being fired" deal, since maybe he won't be in vids for a little while, but will come back.
I don't think that Bree is having a psychotic break, she's just engaging in some psychological escape behaviors that are a little annoying for most of us to see. Reverting back to childhood is, well, not really normal, but one of the more common ways that people deal with extreme stress like this. Think of the last time you were on crutches. Most likely at least once you asked for something in a little kid voice "Will you get me a glass of water, pwease?" It's part of how we react that usually makes others want to protect and help us when we're feeling unable to help ourselves. I think hers is just an extreme form. But who knows, I could always be wrong. I didn't get out my DSM to doublt check the symptoms, but I'm fairly sure she isn't there, although who knows what "psychotic break" means in the creators mind.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG He woke up!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Daniel is leaving bree but will stay in the series. I think at this point they have to have them split up and bree go to jonas' place. If not then why did they waiste our time with his videos and the chat room?
I know everyone is sayingnooo don't leave her. but the story needs to go in a new direction and a jonas /bree story with a jelious daniel is kind of intriguing, espically if jonas turns out to be evil and Dan has tom come to the rescue
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

creativebarbie wrote:
omegawoman wrote:
We are also forgetting that Bree is deliberatly witholding information. She knows so much more about her religion than she is willing to discuss. There are reasons she doesn't want to go home, go to the authorities, etc.

It is time that Bree came clean. I personally think she is being very selfish by not telling at least Daniel the whole truth.


True. Its not fair when he has done so much for her.
I wonder what other things there are to know.


Bree really needs to let Daniel in on what she knows. Even if they don't disclose all the secrets to us.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rachelalexis wrote:
Think of the last time you were on crutches. Most likely at least once you asked for something in a little kid voice "Will you get me a glass of water, pwease?" It's part of how we react that usually makes others want to protect and help us when we're feeling unable to help ourselves. .

Talking/acting like a child sometimes helps me feel safer.. if i do think about it.
Because people want to care for you... but daniel has cared for her for a long time... and she isn't treating him fairly... Its time to let her grow up ..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rachelalexis wrote:
man, there'a a lot of controversy and back and forth for this video! I think that it makes sense for Daniel to be sick and tired of it all. I'm very happy that I'm not seeing a huge movement of people angry at him for considering it.
We got some good info on Daniel. This makes me think that this is what the big misunderstanding was with the "is Yousef being fired" deal, since maybe he won't be in vids for a little while, but will come back.
I don't think that Bree is having a psychotic break, she's just engaging in some psychological escape behaviors that are a little annoying for most of us to see. Reverting back to childhood is, well, not really normal, but one of the more common ways that people deal with extreme stress like this. Think of the last time you were on crutches. Most likely at least once you asked for something in a little kid voice "Will you get me a glass of water, pwease?" It's part of how we react that usually makes others want to protect and help us when we're feeling unable to help ourselves. I think hers is just an extreme form. But who knows, I could always be wrong. I didn't get out my DSM to doublt check the symptoms, but I'm fairly sure she isn't there, although who knows what "psychotic break" means in the creators mind.
good point
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

creativebarbie wrote:
rachelalexis wrote:
Think of the last time you were on crutches. Most likely at least once you asked for something in a little kid voice "Will you get me a glass of water, pwease?" It's part of how we react that usually makes others want to protect and help us when we're feeling unable to help ourselves. .

Talking/acting like a child sometimes helps me feel safer.. if i do think about it.
Because people want to care for you... but daniel has cared for her for a long time... and she isn't treating him fairly... Its time to let her grow up ..


This whole time they have been running...Bree has been on "crutches" and Daniel has been babying her. Bree needs to put down the stuffed animals----unless the shots she was taking before were for skitzophrenia---and she needs to talk with Daniel. The whole truth and nothing but the truth...take him out of the dark before he ditches her.
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