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0092 Bad Decisions(12/6/06)
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papertiger05
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canadas_baby wrote:
I dunno, it's just really suspicious in my mind. She's just as insistent that Bree and Daniel go home as Jonas is that they go stay with him. They're both very "I can't believe you didn't listen to me and ended up on the streets."


I agree, it is suspicious.

But in all fairness, if I had a friend who was ending up living on the street because she refused to take my advice, I'd be pretty darn insistent too!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Gemma better already, simply because she distrusts Jonas Razz

Her comment: "That note they gave you, maybe there's some more information there..."

Perhaps it's just me, but it sounded almost as if she knew what was in the letter, and was prodding Bree to read it more closely for a message she missed but Gemma knew was there. Then again, it could just be my imagination.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What struck me about the advise to re-read the letter was when Gemma followed it up by urging Bree to tell her if she found anything in it...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I desperately need a video of Bree and Daniel doing something productive.

If I see Gemma or Jonas one more time, my head might implode.

I don't care if they go home, I don't care if they go to Jonas'. I just want them to go somewhere. To do something.

This plot needs to get moving, folks.

And, ftr, I HATE that I seem to have turned into one of those whiney complain all the time type fans. But, really. Something NEEDS to happen.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe Gemma just wants Jonas for herself.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful Nightmare wrote:

And, ftr, I HATE that I seem to have turned into one of those whiney complain all the time type fans. But, really. Something NEEDS to happen.


Yes I hate to complain like some fans always do, but its time to move on.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Fatal Attraction!

"I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!" *breaks stem of rose pretending it's Bree's neck*

Bree and Daniel will go home and find a rabbit boiling in a pot!

And if I have to hear Gemma say the word "home" one more time I will go insane.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inigo wrote:
Beautiful Nightmare wrote:

And, ftr, I HATE that I seem to have turned into one of those whiney complain all the time type fans. But, really. Something NEEDS to happen.


Yes I hate to complain like some fans always do, but its time to move on.


I agree.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok this video was annoying. I used to like Gemma and now she just frustrates me. At first she gave some info regarding the order so it was good to have her around, but now she just gives Bree really bad advice. Its obvious that she's on the wrong side. Of course Bree has no clue that her house is bugged so she doesn't know that Gemma can't be trusted.

I feel the same way as a few of you do. I don't care anymore whether Bree goes home or goes to Jonas. I just want to see SOMETHING happen. What's surprising to me is that B&D haven't been mugged yet since they are walking around with a video camera and a laptop. They seem like prime targets.

oooh maybe they WILL get mugged! Maybe someone will take EVERYTHING they have INCLUDING those damn stuffed beasts of Bree's. Then Jonas will be like "hrmm haven't heard from you in a while so I'm going to drive around and see if I can find you guys"... then they'll show him driving around aimlessly and will recognize some buildings from B&D's last video and be able to find them.

Pls, Creators, move the story along. we're desperate over here.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Symbolism info:

The rose often appears on gravestones and obituary notices, where it is shown with a broken stem as a symbol of a broken life. A wilted rose represents a wilted body.

A rose held downward or by a broken stem indicates a life cut short, as does the presence of morning glories--flowers that bloom, wilt, and drop from the vine in less than a day. A boat on calm water symbolizes an easy death, on stormy water a difficult one

This was creepy:

"Today we often miss some of the symbolism of the early grave markers. ... while a rosebud with a broken stem was used to remember an infant. ..."

"The broken stem of the rose usually indicates that a young & innocent life was cut short"
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luv2Skydive wrote:
The rose often appears on gravestones and obituary notices, where it is shown with a broken stem as a symbol of a broken life. A wilted rose represents a wilted body.


That seems awfully heavy-handed as far as filmic references go. From everything I've read/seen about the Creators, they seem too intelligent to fall into those sorts of easy symbolic allusions.

I hope that it's not as simple as broken rose = death, because that's just so cliche.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And that flower...what is up with that wilted rose???? SOmething seems really off about it.


Sorry if someone said this but was it just me or did the rose wilt more as her vlog went on?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

papertiger05 wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:
The rose often appears on gravestones and obituary notices, where it is shown with a broken stem as a symbol of a broken life. A wilted rose represents a wilted body.


That seems awfully heavy-handed as far as filmic references go. From everything I've read/seen about the Creators, they seem too intelligent to fall into those sorts of easy symbolic allusions.

I hope that it's not as simple as broken rose = death, because that's just so cliche.


Maybe it's meant to show Gemma's temper. She was on a 3rd date with the guy so the rose could have been from an earlier date and she broke it upon arriving home from the date where the girl kissed him and he said he can do whatever he wants.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kinj wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:


And that flower...what is up with that wilted rose???? SOmething seems really off about it.


Sorry if someone said this but was it just me or did the rose wilt more as her vlog went on?


I didn't notice the rose until this video.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kinj wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:


And that flower...what is up with that wilted rose???? SOmething seems really off about it.


Sorry if someone said this but was it just me or did the rose wilt more as her vlog went on?


It don't think it wilted more but it did move when her hair touched it.
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