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		Sad Panda Devoted Fan
  
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: [PUZZLE][SOLVED] RAR Password | 
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				UPDATE: THIS MORNING THE PASSWORD WAS FOUND BY OUR BRILLIANT TEAM MEMBERS:
 
AcidFingers and Diastres.
 
 
 
PASSWORD: WarPylol
 
 
Contents are a text file: 
 
 
I told you she looked familiar! 
 
(even though I can't spell, you got my meaning) 
 
email me: language.lessons@gmail.com 
 
and have that decoder ring standing by!   
 
 
 
EXPLANATION BY DIA:
 
This is XX/Xy Version 2.0.  Acidfingers and I spent many hours in Tachyon - er - #tachyon, discussing this.  So much <3 to him.
 
 
We received thirteen dominoes and three stencils at the Petaluma: Revisited (Sixth) Drop.
 
 
The stencils were:
 
C, C, F
 
 
The dominoes were:
 
 
0/0, 0/1, 0/2, 0/5, 0/6, 1/4, 1/5, 1/6, 2/4, 2/5, 3/3, 3/4, 3/6
 
 
If we treated each number on the dominoes seperately, we'd get 26 values, plus the three letters, making 29.  This would not give us valid hex, as we'd need an even number of values to get all the pairs.
 
 
Instead, we have to add together the two sides of the dominoes to get new values:
 
 
0+0 = 0
 
0+1 = 1
 
0+2 = 2
 
0+5 = 5
 
0+6 = 6
 
1+4 = 5
 
1+5 = 6
 
1+6 = 7
 
2+4 = 6
 
2+5 = 7
 
3+3 = 6
 
3+4 = 7
 
3+6 = 9
 
 
This way, the dominoes give us thirteen values.  Add the three letters and we have sixteen.  This is an even number, so we could go ahead, knowing that the end result will have eight characters.  We know this because they pair off and 16/2=8.
 
 
Now, we'll take a look at my normal count.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
value | 0 1 2 5 6 7 9 C F
 
count | 1 1 1 2 4 3 1 2 1
 
 
** ** ** ** ** ** ** **
 
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The following values must be in the second half of a hex pair, because if they are first we do not receive an alpha-numeric character:
 
0 1 2 9 C C F
 
 
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*0 *1 *2 *9 *C *C *F **
 
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NOTE:  I do not remove them from the count until we figure out the pair they're in.  It just made more sense to me mentally to do it that way.
 
 
Let's take a look at the letters.  The only way they become alphanumeric characters is if they are fronted by a 4 or 6.  4 is unavailable to us, so that means we must have 6C 6C 6F.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
value | 0 1 2 5 6 7 9 C F
 
count | 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 0 0
 
 
*0 *1 *2 *9 6C 6C 6F **
 
            l  l  o
 
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So we have llo.  Or lol.  (I mentioned this to acidfingers right away... I wish we'd kept it in mind longer...)
 
 
Possible combinations to fit the rest:
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
*0: 50=P, 70=p
 
*1: 51=Q, 61=a, 71=q
 
*2: 52=R, 62=b, 72=r
 
*9: 59=Y, 69=i, 79=y
 
**: 55=U, 56=V, 57=W, 65=e, 67=g, 75=u, 76=v, 77=w
 
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We'd done a dictionary attack (both with a program and manually [go us!]) long before this so we knew it wasn't one word.  For that reason, several of us believed it was two, and would have two capital letters.  (We kept it only having one in mind, as well as it not being two, but... you know how things go...)  Later, it was confirmed by SparkleBot that there were two uppercase letters.  I'll apologize now for not posting it.  Once we got that hint, things started moving quickly for a while, and I don't think either of us were thinking about it.
 
 
The only possible uppercase letters are if 5 is the front of the hex pair.  That means we can remove 55=U, 65=e and 75=u.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
*0: 50=P, 70=p
 
*1: 51=Q, 61=a, 71=q
 
*2: 52=R, 62=b, 72=r
 
*9: 59=Y, 69=i, 79=y
 
**: 56=V, 57=W, 67=g, 76=v, 77=w
 
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Now, I looked to *1 immediately.  The option of a q without a u?  No way.  So I took that out, meaning *1 must be 61.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
value | 0 1 2 5 6 7 9 C F
 
count | 1 0 1 2 0 3 1 0 0
 
 
*0 61 *2 *9 6C 6C 6F **
 
   a        l  l  o
 
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The lack of sixes means that the second spot in ** must be a 7, as there aren't enough front spaces for all of the fives and sevens and the 5 takes priority, as it is required to make capitalized letters.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
value | 0 1 2 5 6 7 9 C F
 
count | 1 0 1 2 0 3 1 0 0
 
 
*0 61 *2 *9 6C 6C 6F *7
 
   a        l  l  o
 
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Let's look at the leftover possible combinations, knowing that we no longer have any 6's to use:
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
*0: 50=P, 70=p
 
*2: 52=R, 72=r
 
*9: 59=Y, 79=y
 
*7: 57=W, 77=w
 
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Well look at that.  We have all the letters, just not necessarily their placement.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
value | 0 1 2 5 6 7 9 C F
 
count | 1 0 1 2 0 3 1 0 0
 
 
*0 61 *2 *9 6C 6C 6F *7
 
   a        l  l  o
 
Pp    Rr Yy          Ww
 
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paryllow, huh?
 
 
Two will be capitalized and two will not, which means that no matter the combination, the count will drop to 0.
 
 
Tachyon updated her profile to include a character map, much like the one we got in the last XX/Xy problem:
 
 
XX XX XX XX XX Xy Xy Xy
 
 
Xs are numbers, ys are letters.  The last three must be the llo.  So what combinations are there?
 
 
llo
 
oll
 
lol
 
 
Then we have the rest:  paryw.  This can be anagrammed to warpy.
 
 
warpylol.
 
 
Acidfingers is actually the one who figured out what should be capitalized.
 
 
The password is WarPylol.
 
 
It makes the most sense to me, but I didn't know that it would be warpylol before he gave it.  War is a word in itself, not to mention it was a tag in one of OpAphid's latest vids (I can't say exactly which one, as I am not connected to the internet at the moment.)
 
 
warpylol is part of ipod opera and is OpAphid's only friend.  Refer to deagol's post for background information, as I really don't know anything about it myself.
 
 
If there are any further questions, please feel free to post and I will do my best to recall the answer.
 
 
Much <3 to acidfingers for staying up with me all night and figuring this out.  I probably wouldn't have gotten it without him for a lot longer.
 
 
I'm not sure how much longer until the plane lands, but it's 5pm in Arizona.  I'll post as soon as I get there.  Maybe I'll take another nap.  I've got 38% battery remaining, so I can't futz around on the computer.  Hopefully I'll find an outlet in Chicago.  FallingIntoSin tells me the airport I'm going to has free wifi.  Let's hope!
 
 
Hello from Chicago!  You guys are insane, I'm going to freeze.  New Hampshire looks bleaker by the moment.  I have commandeered an outlet (thank goodness).  I didn't sleep afterall, and it might show.  Did you know that David Hume says that you have no good reason to believe a cause you have witnessed many times with the same result will have the same result next time?
 
 
 
 
 
WHAT HAS BEEN TRIED:
 
A Dictionary Crack has been run -- it is NOT a word that can be found in the dictionary.
 
 
A 3 Letter Bruce Force has been run. The password is not three characters.
 
 
PASSWORDS TRIED:
 
 
 
044004783729 
 
097360573640 
 
097360573633 
 
097360573626 
 
027616125255 
 
027616584137 
 
126415112835137109114 
 
10033
 
Bree
 
C64FB2835D7A91E
 
Cx6t4vFoBw2u8w3p5mDr7nAy9q1sEl  
 
cfc
 
ccf
 
Daniel
 
Deja Vu
 
Dominos
 
domino's
 
Eskimo
 
Es-ki-mo 
 
fcc
 
Flatmate
 
Flatmates
 
Gemma
 
GoodGollyItsHolly 
 
GPS
 
Heathers 
 
hijkl 
 
IOOEE
 
Ishmael 
 
Jiffy Pop
 
Johnny Mnemonic (all variations)
 
Jonas
 
JonasTKO
 
Judas
 
matchmaker 
 
Moby Dick
 
LookFamilaar 
 
lookfamilaar 
 
LOOKFAMILAAR 
 
Look Familaar 
 
Look Familaar? 
 
LOOK FAMILAAR? 
 
lookfamilaar? 
 
LookFamilaar? 
 
Lordgreystoke422 (har har har)
 
Lucy
 
Tachyon
 
Thankyou
 
Thankyou.
 
Thank you.
 
Thank you
 
USATODAY 
 
USAToday 
 
usatoday 
 
xtvouzwpmrnyqsl 
 
Wanker
 
Yente 
 
 
 
 
PLEASE NOTE THAT AFTER YOU UPDATE THIS THREAD WITH THE FAILED PASSWORDS I MAY UPDATE MY POST AND DELETE YOURS TO KEEP THE THREAD EASIER TO READ FOR THOSE TRYING TO BREAK THE PASSWORD AND ARE LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS.  _________________ Got Drama?
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		islandlove Devoted Fan
  
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Could the pw possibly have anything to do with the movie The Matchmaker (1997)? _________________ "Not dumb just severly off topic"
 
 
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				I was looking at UPC codes for Matchmaker and found this #
 
025192265822.  ( Movie with Janeane Garafolo)  it is for the home video....no idea how it relates to the dominoes or to the movie codes though ( or is it supposed to?) _________________ Everything in the World Began with a YES! | 
			 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I am unable to try these at work:
 
 
Tag you're it
 
More to come
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Has anyone tried 
 
but wait and/or
 
there's more ? _________________ "Not dumb just severly off topic"
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Ok...the video also said something about starting from the beginning.  Are there any words or odd phrases that we have heard that haven't helped?
 
 
How about something with Baseball, World Series, etc? _________________ Fallacy does not cease to be fallacy because it becomes fashionable | 
			 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: File Passwords | 
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Yup, it must be registered for pws over 3 characters long. | 
			 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Okay, I don't have winrar and don't have time to get it, so if someone will try these passwords (in varying combinations of upper- and lowercase, of course):
 
 
silver swan
 
movie madness
 
domino theory
 
survival skills
 
home alone
 
palm tree
 
part one/part 1/part I
 
part two/part 2/part II
 
part three/part 3/part III
 
 
More edits...this might be a good time to go back to the "All the signs we might have missed" thread and see if the password is hidden there.  Could it be Calling Card? Division? Does he ever get the girl?  Could it be something from the List of Names?
 
 
Edit: These have all been tried, and have led nowhere. _________________ "A step in the right direction? It only turns out to be so if you're willing to step much further." 
 
    -Samuel R. Delany
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				No one tried fiddlerontheroof?
 
 
edit:
 
 
I ran a search for matchmaker on craigslist personals and got an unusual posting... http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/m4w/246110342.html
 
 
BTW, where is the link for the RAR file?  I can't find it. | 
			 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | wstabeo wrote: | 	 		  All of these are no...
 
 
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Thanx!
 
I'm already trying the ones posted avobe so I'll comment update on it later. _________________ 'There's a hole in my soul
 
you can see it in my face
 
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				The password is not any of the names from the List of Names we got from previous drops. _________________ "A step in the right direction? It only turns out to be so if you're willing to step much further." 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Thanks to a Tachyon YT update which read:
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  To my "Brother" :
 
 
I'm sure you've got your friends working on what was recovered. But it's one of those xx/xy things that some people are good at, and other people just can't wrap their head around it.
 
 
However, multitasking is necessary!
 
 
So with step 2 completed, set those results aside for the moment while we move on to Step 3: Don't worry, there are just a few tiny details below... | 	  
 
 
we started looking back at the XX/XY puzzle.  Ladron came up with the idea to match letters and numbers from the solution to the movie puzzle, a la XX/XY.  This led us to some interesting numbers (posted below), which turned out to be tinyurls of a radio show called Loveline.
 
 
Here are the solutions.  Just put www.tinyurl.com/ in front of each one:
 
 
1 : yybkxn
 
2 : y3xadt
 
3 : y68zov
 
4 : y6qxup
 
5 : y3xln8
 
6 : y5j4gb
 
7 : sdzm7
 
8 : y36g59
 
9 : y7jb2g
 
a : y2p7c9
 
b : y45ktt
 
c : uut4r
 
d : y42hlb
 
e : yysved
 
f : vomya
 
 
Or go here:
 
http://www.acidfingers.com/step3.html
 
Thanks acid! _________________ "A step in the right direction? It only turns out to be so if you're willing to step much further." 
 
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