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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Name meanings |   |  
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				| I'm a newbie so I apologize if this has already been discussed, but here it is anyway. I looked up the name meanings of all the key characters in the story. Bree: Broth (Umm..I really don't think there is any significance here) but also, strong, spirited. An ancient Celtic goddess
 Daniel: God is my judge
 Gemma: Jewel or gem, precious stone
 Lucy: Light
 And this is the most interesting one, I think you would agree (if not the only interesting one)
 
 Jonas: A dove; he that oppresses, destroyer. Variant: Jonah. The name Jonah is used to symbolize someone who brings bad luck.
 
 I've never thought that Jonas couldn't be trusted, and I don't know if I do now,  but I thought that was worth mentioning.
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		| avian_firefly Casual Observer
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Although from the point of view of The Order, Jonas being a destroyer could be a good thing for Bree. Especially if Lucy=light and Gemma=precious stone. They are badnews for Bree and Daniel. |  | 
	
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		| 7Harry7Potter7 P. Monkey's Agent
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | avian_firefly wrote: |  	  | Although from the point of view of The Order, Jonas being a destroyer could be a good thing for Bree. Especially if Lucy=light and Gemma=precious stone. They are badnews for Bree and Daniel. | 
 
 Oh wow. I didn't even think of that! I bet you're right. Just flip it around!
 Now, what does the whole "broth" thing mean? lmao
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		| sororyzbl Enthusiastic Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Maybe you're thinking Brigid, the celtic goddess?  goddess of flames, one of the tua de danaan? 
 What's bree short for anyway?  Sabrina?  Brianna?  I've seen both.
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | sororyzbl wrote: |  	  | Maybe you're thinking Brigid, the celtic goddess?  goddess of flames, one of the tua de danaan? 
 What's bree short for anyway?  Sabrina?  Brianna?  I've seen both.
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 It doesn't necessarily have to be short for anything. "Bree" might be her full first name.
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		| sororyzbl Enthusiastic Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Lurker wrote: |  	  |  	  | sororyzbl wrote: |  	  | Maybe you're thinking Brigid, the celtic goddess?  goddess of flames, one of the tua de danaan? 
 What's bree short for anyway?  Sabrina?  Brianna?  I've seen both.
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 It doesn't necessarily have to be short for anything. "Bree" might be her full first name.
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 maybe maybe, but If you're analyzing names, I'd suggest looking for the most general, then the specific.  generally, people who go by "bree" are not given that name.  How many people do you know who have the name "Tony" on their birth certificate?
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Interesting. How can Jonas mean both a dove (symbol of peace) and a destroyer? 
 As for broth, I'm at loss, maybe we should all run and check out soup labels.
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Do we ever know these characters last names? Does it matter?
 
 Sometimes a name chosen is just chosen because it sounds good/appealing to the one choosing it.  It could be that "Bree" is the name of one of the creators children. Who knows?
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:20 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | girlAnachronism wrote: |  	  | Interesting. How can Jonas mean both a dove (symbol of peace) and a destroyer? 
 As for broth, I'm at loss, maybe we should all run and check out soup labels.
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 She is broth because Jonas wants to cook her and eat her for dinner.
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		| livelongandprosper77 Devoted Fan
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote: |  	  |  	  | girlAnachronism wrote: |  	  | Interesting. How can Jonas mean both a dove (symbol of peace) and a destroyer? 
 As for broth, I'm at loss, maybe we should all run and check out soup labels.
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 She is broth because Jonas wants to cook her and eat her for dinner.
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 lol Bree chowder, Bree noodle soup, Bree alarm chili....
  hmm anyway i like this analysis of names yo very enlightning thank you and i am sure the creators chose these names with some knowledge of their meanings.  That and they do have a nice overall ring to them.  Bree Daniel Daniel Gemma Gemma Bree.. ahha roll off the tongue.  Oh yes last names that is something to think about what would be last names for Bree, Daniel, and others? Any ideas? _________________
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | sororyzbl wrote: |  	  | Maybe you're thinking Brigid, the celtic goddess?  goddess of flames, one of the tua de danaan? 
 What's bree short for anyway?  Sabrina?  Brianna?  I've seen both.
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 I went to severel websites that gave name meanings, and they all brought up the names Brigid, Sabrina, Brianna. I know that Brianna means strong. All the variations of Brianna mean strong. I think that the website that mentioned a celtic goddess was referring to Brigid. I don't know anything about celtic god/goddesses, but I do remember that Brigid and Bree are very closely related.
 I dunno if Bree is short for anything. Bree can be someone's full name, but I think in most cases it isn't.
 
 girlAnachronism: I thought the exact same thing! A symbol of peace that destroys things...hmm...lol. I visited several sites and most of them said "Dove" but a couple did say "Destroyer" or "bringer of bad luck"
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I looked up Bree on behindthename.com and this is what I got: 
 BREE    Irish
 Anglicized form of BRÍGH
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 BRÍGH
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 Usage: Irish
 
 Pronounced: BREE   [key]
 
 Derived from Irish brígh meaning "power, high".
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | I went to severel websites that gave name meanings, and they all brought up the names Brigid, Sabrina, Brianna. I know that Brianna means strong. All the variations of Brianna mean strong. I think that the website that mentioned a celtic goddess was referring to Brigid. I don't know anything about celtic god/goddesses, but I do remember that Brigid and Bree are very closely related. I dunno if Bree is short for anything. Bree can be someone's full name, but I think in most cases it isn't.
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 Or she's just a cheese head....
 
 http://www.cheese.com/Description.asp?Name=Brie
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | sororyzbl wrote: |  	  |  	  | Lurker wrote: |  	  |  	  | sororyzbl wrote: |  	  | Maybe you're thinking Brigid, the celtic goddess?  goddess of flames, one of the tua de danaan? 
 What's bree short for anyway?  Sabrina?  Brianna?  I've seen both.
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 It doesn't necessarily have to be short for anything. "Bree" might be her full first name.
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 maybe maybe, but If you're analyzing names, I'd suggest looking for the most general, then the specific.  generally, people who go by "bree" are not given that name.  How many people do you know who have the name "Tony" on their birth certificate?
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 I know a pretty good amount of people who actually named their kids what they intended to call them. Thus, I know a few legal "Chris," "Tim," and "Allie"'s. "Tony" and coincidentally "Bree" is also very common.
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Don't forget:  Baked Bree   
 Jonas could be an oppressor because he's got her locked up ready to grind her bones to make his bread.
 
 Either that or he's just lonely.
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