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== more voices needed ==
This is a major redesign for Lgpedia and so far there have been only a few voices heard. Zoey how about moving this to main peage/redesign -[[User:Misty|misty]] 18:51, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

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I disagree with renagades ordering, the first thing should be welcome. I also don't see why we need to have all those verbose paragraphs if we trimmed the text we could have the welcome message and spoiler art in the space the spoiler alert is taking now also the portal intros are too wordy too. -misty 12:37, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

  1. The primary purpose of the page is to be a portal to the other ones. (Not our idea, complain to Miles.)
  2. The spoiler warning should warn of spoilers before they might occur.
  3. The welcome message is not that important.
The point is, how often are you going to read the welcome message?
Once you've read it, all you want in the future is to quickly proceed to your series of choice, nothing more. The way the page is designed currently, the portal-part is right in plain sight and can be used without further scrolling.
With your ordering, you're forcing the user to scroll past a giant box he's ignoring, just to click on a link to leave the page he's not interested in anyway.
Look at it this way: There are two parts of the page now - the portal part, and the main page part. The portal part is at the top and links to the other portals, while the bottom part is a main page for the 'pedia as a whole.
Your re-ordering mashed up these two parts. Right now, it's Meta-Warning - Portals - LGPedia; you had LGPedia - Portals - Meta-Warning - LGPedia. And that just doesn't make much sense from a design point of view.
In addition to all that, as much as I like to stay diplomatic, the giant message box at the top just looked like crap.
As for the spoiler-warning, the portal-links lead to series news and episode guides. So with your ordering, somebody could scroll past the welcome box that's blocking his way, click on Lonelygirl15, and be instantly spoiled, before ever even seeing the warning.
There is no use having a spoiler-warning after you linked to the majority of spoiling content.
And finally, a fixed width of 800px makes no sense whatsoever. Not only is fixed width unnecessary, 800px also instantly makes the main page unusable for anyone with 800x600 or lower.
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 12:59, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
the whole reason behind your argument is that there is way too much text, so that it make it have to scroll. I created an example of what it would look like with less text. the long message fromthe administrators, i moved to the welcxome page where it is much more appropriate. --misty 16:55, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
No, that's not "the whole reason" behind my argument. The welcome box a) looks totally out of place up there, and is b) simply wrong there, from a page breakdown point of view.
Why the hell are you so desperate to have that box up there?
Also note that Zoey and I are live working on that page, it's really disturbing progress when you just revert half a dozen changes.
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 17:01, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
Just like you think it looks looks totally out of place at the top , I thinkit looks out of place in the middle of the page. it's like having a book with the table of contents before the title page. How is it wrong from the breakdown point of view? I disagree with the whole catagorization listed above and i don't see it any more inline with what miles said than what did. The way you have it, it's Intro - Portals - Intro, LGPedia; I now have Intro - Portals - LGPedia. And that makes much more sense from a design point of view. -misty 17:22, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
The warning is not an intro. The warning is a warning. A notice. A friendly reminder. Nothing more. It is not part of the page content as such.
The Welcome-box initiates LGPedia's content. LGPedia's content begins below the portals. Therefore, it simply makes no sense to initiate LGPedia's content, then show the more or less unrelated portal-links, and then to continue LGPedia's content.
The markup alone should make clear that the portals are different from the rest of the content. They're quick gateways. Not valuable content. The pimped version of "Click here for Lonelygirl15 news". What you have is not "Intro - Portals - LGPedia"; what you have is "LGPedia 1 - Portals - LGPedia 2", whereas I have "Notice - Portals - LGPedia". And that makes a lot more sense.
Look at it this way: If you took out the portals, the page would be exactly as you think it should be. Welcome, then content. It's just that, above that normal main page stuff, there are the portals now.
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 17:41, 14 July 2007 (CDT)


Should we stretch out the portal section to match the width of the rest of the page, or leave it alone? For some reason, it's bothering me, but it's not that big of a deal. Love, -R- 17:04, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

O.K., I played with it, and if we change the size to 97.7%, it will match up with the rest of the sections (just for reference) Love, -R- 17:16, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
(P.S., just checked and 97.7% is off by one pixel in IE.) Love, -R- 17:20, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
I think there is a probalen withscretching the portals, especially on monitors with a resolution 1920x1280 (or even 1680x1050) -misty 17:22, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
Oh, duh. I totally forgot about resolution. I am on a 1024x768 monitor from 1997 xP Love, -R- 17:27, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
Not only is the difference in width not an accident but a design element, but making that part wider will also lead to a large amount of blank colored space, which'll look stupid.
You can check that out by setting width to 100% and previewing - just don't save, please.
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 17:24, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, I've been messing around in the previews, and for some reason, when I put it on 100%, it stretches WAYYY too far. But like I said, its no big deal. Love, -R- 17:27, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
mumblemumblequiteditingwhileiammumble [Editing Conflict resolved]
The correct size you're looking for is 100% with 10px margins.
aaaaargh and then fucking correcting yourself [Second Editing Conflict resolved]
resolved even more conflicts down here :rolleyes:

more voices needed

This is a major redesign for Lgpedia and so far there have been only a few voices heard. Zoey how about moving this to main peage/redesign -misty 18:51, 14 July 2007 (CDT)