Talk:Dreams from the Breeniverse

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I'll be working on this over the weekend. I'll try to have it completed by Monday. - Luminous

    • looks at the page**
    • nods to herself**

Okay, what the crap???--Nieriel.Manwathiel

Need Help

Psichopate, thanks so much for your help :)I'm still plugging away, trying to figure out how to get Wiki to do what I want it to. I would like to change the color of the white font underneath the pictures to #000048, to match the dark blue title bar, but have not been able to figure out how to do that. I would appreciate help from you, or anyone else who knows how to do that.

Is there any way to center the yellow table over the dark blue one?

On the Dream pages: They should each be named by the full title of the dream, and the simple title, Dream 1, Dream 2, Dream 3 etc. should point to that page as well, so if people search for either the simple title or the complete title, they will be directed to the same page.

Now that I have the bare bones of the site built, VoyBoy will be providing me with text to build it out and make it more complete.

Thanks for all your help -Luminous

I changed color of white font. I'll try to center that yellow table later. (in fact, it looked white for me, before you said it's yellow. :) maybe a little too light? (or maybe it's just my monitor)) psichopate 07:39, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
Thanks so much! The page looks 100% better :) -Luminous

Order of videos

Is the order of the videos Dream 1, Dream 2, Dream 3, etc. or something else? I noticed that the "Previous" and "Next" links on the video pages don't follow that order.--Jonpro 21:45, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

Update Videos

Shouldn't we update this page??? I mean, SEVEN videos (of which 5 certainly belong here in the Dreams section) have been uploaded by VoyBoy, containing "Dreams" of Taylor, Carl, lonelyjewfifteen, Emma and Lucy! Just a thought...

Moved from Revamp Page

Whether it is labeled 'tier 2' or 'tier 3' the page for this particular series should include a concise list of links to the videos, possibly with a short description and thumbnail for each. The videos are fairly independent creations usually focusing on one character each, not so much a single narrative, so a lumped summary will not really cover them very well. Also, linking just to the account the videos are provided on (jerrypwjr on YouTube) does not really work because they are mixed in with other videos by the same creator on that account. Note: there is a playlist available on that account for the Dreams series which could be linked to, but a listing on the page would make it easier to find an individual video. The lgpedia page should be as useful as possible. ~ QtheC 13:08, 10 May 2008 (CDT)

Playlist, sure. (This can, and most likely will, be put under the External Links section.) Listing, maybe (I'm generally against any straight-out listing of videos, though.) As for pictures...Why? The dreams are chaotic, and it's not like one picture is going to give you an idea of what a particular video was about. Descriptions I'm against solely because the idea here is to cut down on content. Couldn't you give descriptions of the videos without just flat-out giving things the format of Here's What Happens in Video 1:, etc. etc.?
BTW, Q, no one's checking this page anymore. The revamp is already in progress, and as you can see, the Dreams page needs work. It would be better to just go to it rather than saying what other people should do, you know? Thanks, though! - Shiori 23:54, 11 May 2008 (CDT)
"It would be better to just go to it rather than saying what other people should do, you know?" ... Really? This whole revamp discourages contribution to the LGPedia by a larger group. You wiped out the attractive custom page Luminous had in place for the series, and now I should go add something new, only to have it deleted or piecemeal edited by your arbitrary standards?
"The idea here is to cut down on content." If anything, the idea should be to organize content and make it more accessible or possibly easier to maintain. But I personally think it is misguided to aim to "cut down on content" or to standardize everything. Actually, it's boring.
The way this revamp is organized is misguided in my view. A much simpler solution would have been to list all the series, and then add a single summary page (akin to the video pages on the LGPedia) for every series, no matter how big or how small, with a single master "UGC Index" listing page that points to these individual summary pages.
An indication of associated series (i.e. theCoalition) could be given in the "UGC Index." Then, for a given series, a list of links could be provided from the single summary page to all related pages, with little or no tight control over what those might be - let them be unique and a little chaotic and fun and as informative as possible. Add some organizing pages, and then let people work on revamping/improving the content pages on a series by series basis, that's sensible, but quit trying to control every little thing. It's ruining the spirit of the LGPedia and discourages community involvement. Fight the Order. ~ QtheC 13:30, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
"Descriptions I'm against solely because the idea here is to cut down on content." ~ I think that statement requires an explanation. Exactly why is "content" the enemy? Has anyone actually defined the parameters needed to allow the LGPedia admins the ability to better manage the community videos area? Surely content is not the enemy here. I think individuality is important to any series so the goal should be to balance creative needs against administrative needs.--modelmotion 17:23, 13 May 2008 (CDT)
Guys, guys. Seriously, don't get so defensive. Note that this is just my opinion, and if you want it different, you can go take care of it yourselves. Personally, I just don't like the idea of video descriptions because I think a combined description of ALL the videos would probably be better (especially considering how disjointed they are). My point is I think several paragraphs of text generally looks better than:
  • Video 1 - ....
  • Video 2 - ....
As for that design that was in place, Q, YES IT WAS DESTROYED. GET OVER IT. The whole point of the revamp was to cut down on unnecessary pages and make the information easier to access. The whole page was just serving as pictorial links to the videos, which we HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE were going to be taken down. I'm sorry if that irritates you, but I didn't feel like leaving the pictures up without the links would convey much meaning other than "hey, if you want to know about the series, well... you'll have to go watch it because we don't care to give you an adequate description. Feel free to look at these pretty pictures while you're at it, though!" Are you really so upset by this PREMEDITATED action that you refuse to edit on the Pedia anymore? o.O
And, P.S., this is neither the time nor the place to argue about the entire revamp. This discussion has been going on since JANUARY. Get over it, please. - Shiori 17:39, 13 May 2008 (CDT)