Template talk:The Order

General organization

I moved several items to a Fictional section to help clarify some issues.--modelmotion 14:11, 1 December 2006 (CST)

I like what you're doing here to organize the topic, but frankly, your method of organization is more than a bit opaque to me. I can't figure out why things are organized the way they are on the template, nor do I understand why some things are even on the template. In particular, while I do understand your reason for having a page for the Knights of the Round Table, I think it is such a minor point that the page has no place in defining Bree's religion, and really only serves to inform the meaning of the name and possible associations rather than having relevance in itself. Perhaps I'll revidit this topic later once the subject of the related deletions settles down. I think the concept of this template could be refined a great deal. --Brucker 17:48, 1 December 2006 (CST)

I am always open to new ideas. I think what I created here is much better than nothing. However its only intended to be a starting point. I contribute a lot to this secion so i have a good feel what is on here and why its on here. The Knight issue is just to separate Knights Templar from Knight of the Round Table.....and of course there is likely to be other Knights added as the story develops. There are some issues surrounding the Holy Grail that might ties in the Knights of the Round table but I have enough to deal with at the moment. Yes we could just send people over to Wikipedia but I personally like keeping things in house (especially since it might generate some ad revenue in the future). I also think that Wikipedia can be a bit overwhelming for some users and so having a nice siimple page on LGpedia is useful. Besides, we may get some interesting additions to the page as time goes on.--modelmotion 17:55, 1 December 2006 (CST)

The fictional resources category was recently added to the bottom because of some concerns expressed regarding insults to Thelema. I hope that helps a bit but that why its there.--modelmotion 18:02, 1 December 2006 (CST)

I was considering--along the lines of what I discussed on Tannhaus's talk page--a division of the information into factual, Breeniverse-related, and speculational, but then, a lot of the topics need such breakdowns within the topics themselves, I think. --Brucker 19:37, 1 December 2006 (CST)

I am constantly looking for the best way to arrange this stuff, in part because I need to access these pages frequently and I also have a pretty logical mind. I am still finding pages that I have not yet catalogued so once thats complete we can take a look at all we have and decide if they can be better arranged. There are however always wild cards such as the Deacons (commenters). It looked like they might have gone away with the member directoory but they are back and full of very provocative terminology that opens up a lot of cans of worms. LG is turning out to be more of a mystery than Lost. Some things like Gemma and Jonas are easy to figure out but other things are just unknown. My general approach is to keep an open mind until something is proven or disproven and even then i remain open to the possiblity that we do not know quite as much as we thought we did. Over time, I think thing may get even more complicated so whatever infrastrucure we choose needs to be flexible enough to roll with the punches.--modelmotion 02:44, 2 December 2006 (CST)

Template design

The template itslef is based on this index page which i created and a modificication of the location template that you helped me with. If the template is modified the index page should be modified to reflect the same change. What I want to accomplish was expose users who were searching for one topic to the many other topics that are now available. Any organization scheme that accomplishes that is fine by me. Also I have had a problem adding the template the crowley page and the Thelema page because they both have graphic that have to be dealth with. Perhaps you could help me out with that.--modelmotion 18:00, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Perhaps a change to the template to make it optionally display a picture might be in order, but I don't know. Certainly it would be nice to keep those pictures at the top. Maybe move this box to the bottom like some templates on Wikipedia? --Brucker 19:37, 1 December 2006 (CST)

The list of pages without the template has expanded to include: Aliester Crowley, Thelema, Urim and Thummim and Deacon (individual). I have played around a little with designs but I agree the pictures should stay in place and the template should go below the pictures. Now I just need to figure out how to do that, but lets just say i have been a little distracted by other pressing matters:)--modelmotion 02:44, 2 December 2006 (CST)

Check out this design: Thelema template from Wikipedia Something a bit more like that would be nice, don't you think? --Brucker 14:39, 4 December 2006 (CST)

The case for deletion

This article is simply not a useful navigational tool for the information surrounding Bree's religion. It's not clear to me why a template for this topic is even needed in the first place. Further, the organization of the topics on this template makes no sense to me. If somebody has ideas of how to transform this into something useful, please share. I see little hope.--JayHenry 17:22, 29 January 2007 (CST)

I completely agree. It's not a bad idea to have a template in principle, but this is just not a good application. OwenIsCool 17:31, 29 January 2007 (CST)

Do not want. Delete plz. ~ Jbshryne 00:27, 1 February 2007 (CST)

I got a better idea. rather than outright deleting it, let's remove it from all the pages it's currently shown on and then leave open the possibility that someone can go back some day and make it "spiffier". --Brucker 12:53, 1 February 2007 (CST)