Template talk:Locations

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If you're intending to always have the same image and caption, it seems like it shouldn't be part of the template in that way. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but it seems you should replace

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Where the loction was used:|

Is this what you're trying to do?--Brucker 13:54, 21 November 2006 (CST)

You are totally correct. This is my first try with templates and I am just glad that I got something thats functional......but its clumsy. I just did the best I could do and figured that it works for now and i can fix it up a little once its implemented. But first I wanted to make sure that I got a positive reaction to adding it to the pages. The index part could also use some improvement because I dont want to update every page when a new location is added........so that would be my number one area for improvement. The reason its the way it is at the moment is because i reverse engineered it from the videos template but now I am getting a better idea of how they work.--modelmotion 14:04, 21 November 2006 (CST)
Well, that's the thing with a these wikis, the site as a whole is a work in progress, isn't it. I like what you're doing here. --Brucker 14:46, 21 November 2006 (CST)
Okay, I've got the template smaller and more standardized. From now on, when a new location is added to the list, instead of adding it to every location page, just add it to the template. This will also cut down on issues with errors. PLease do make sure you're careful with your spelling on page titles, at the very least. --Brucker 13:50, 27 November 2006 (CST)
I think you're missing what I'm saying; you don't have to add the locations to every location page anymore, just to the template, and it cascades down to all the location pages. All you have to do is edit in all the appearances of the location. (In fact, I think it's possible to not need to put in the "name" parameter if you have the right code for taking the page title, but I don't know what it is.--Brucker 14:38, 27 November 2006 (CST)


I'm trying to overhaul this template, but I've hit a couple of roadblocks...

  1. I can't seem to shrink the bar on top
  2. Some of these locations defy categorization
  3. There's just a lot of them at this point. There not all included because we don't have articles on the parking garage where Bree's dad got shot, the cafe where he met Bree, etc.
  4. Anyone out there with template or table skills, it'd be great if you pitched in.

Is it just me... or would we be better of nixing this in favor of just having a Category:Locations?

    Location: {{{name}}}


Location Index

Homes | Bree's bedroom | Daniel's bedroom | Gemma's flat | Jonas's house

Outdoors | The swimming hole | The park | The Ceremony | Thanksgiving hike

Motels | The first motel | The second motel | The third motel

Other locations | Lucy's apartment | The office park | The chain-link fence | The road trip | The movie theater | The warehouse

I'm going to completely agree with this. We really need to revamp the location pages, and while attempting to do so, the template just plain gets in the way.--Killthesmiley 12:30, 3 February 2007 (CST)

For the Bree's Religion template, Brucker had suggested "orphaning it" (that is, not including it in any page) until we were done revamping the religion pages and the template itself. That would be a good idea here too. However, if we do that, we should make sure all the pages are categorized so we don't lose them... they have really awkward names so it's hard to search for them. OwenIsCool 13:30, 3 February 2007 (CST)
I shrunk the bar, the problem was the <br> tags. They were making it so the bar was three lines. But yeah, location pages, i dunno. It makes sense to me to have pages on important locations like Daniel's house, Bree's house, etc... but "The Third Motel"? or "The Thanksgiving Hike"?. I don't see the point in having a page for every single place they ever go to. Maybe we should have some criteria of when a place gets a location page?--JayHenry 14:29, 3 February 2007 (CST)
I love that Locations box. Much better than the current one. --SilverBULLETx3 11:46, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

Some thoughts on locations

Okay, if we're going to do locations, they need to be consistent. We either need a page for all locations, or need a specifically defined criteria of what gets a location page. Here are all the locations thus far in the series. In roughly chronological order.

Location lists
All locations Condensed
  1. Bree's house
  2. Daniel's house
  3. First hike
  4. Swimming hole
  5. Daniel's car - or, on-the-way to the swimming hole?
  6. The "In The Park" Park
  7. The "Learning To Drive" loading dock, fence row and streets
  8. The streets stalking Lucy, the hill where they do exercises, the medical complex.
  9. Topanga State Park
  10. Lucy's apartment
  11. Gemma's flat
  12. The chain-link fence/Daniel's friend's house
  13. On The Run locations
  14. First motel
  15. The grocery store from Breakfast In Bed
  16. Jonas's house
  17. Second motel
  18. Movie theater
  19. Thanksgiving hike
  20. The place where Gemma was on the run herself in Scared To Go Home
  21. The park in Jonas?
  22. Side of the highway in Homeless
  23. The park in Homeless -- possibly the same park?
  24. The abandoned building
  25. The streets in Warwalking
  26. The parking garage/alley from Your Decision
  27. The "Undisclosed Location"
  28. The EPOGEN warehouse
  29. Jonas's SUV/roadtrip locations
  30. The cafe/parking garage where Bree's dad got shot
  31. The beach
  32. Pins & Pints
  33. Into the mountains after the Cowboy
  34. Third motel
  35. Cowboy's ranch
  36. Random rest area where Jonas explores the van
  37. The airport where Tachyon arrives
  38. The Order's HQ
  39. The snowy mountains on the way to the cabin
  40. Jonas's cabin/surrounding area
  1. Bree's house
  2. Daniel's house
  3. Hiking sites
  4. Swimming hole
  5. Daniel's car
  6. General LA area
  7. Parks
  8. Random sites in LA
  9. Topanga State Park
  10. Lucy's apartment
  11. Gemma's flat
  12. Daniel's friend's house
  13. Motels
  14. Jonas's house
  15. Movie theater
  16. The "Undisclosed Location"
  17. The EPOGEN warehouse
  18. Jonas's SUV
  19. Bree's dad's murder scene
  20. The beaches
  21. Pins & Pints
  22. Cowboy's ranch
  23. The Order's HQ
  24. Jonas's cabin
  25. Alex's house

A lot of those are pretty trivial locations. We could condense by using Daniel's Car and Jonas's SUV as a catch-all for a lot of those on-the-road type locations, Random Parks could be a catch-all. I dunno, what do people think? How do we manage this sprawling category? --JayHenry 13:15, 1 March 2007 (CST)

Let's see, did you miss a few? There are bunch that people seem to forget... Ooh, you missed a big one, actually. There's also the issue of what qualifies as a location. In various road trip videos, they show several locations; even in Learning To Drive, there are essentially three sub-locations in the video. Also, do we count locations that only show up in OpAphid/Tachyon videos or not? What about unseen but important locations, like Bree's summer camp? Anyway, I'm glad I could help clarify all of this. ; ) -BRUCKER EyeBlueSmall.jpg (Home/Talk/Contribs) 13:43, 1 March 2007 (CST)
"The airport where Tachyon arrives" is the big one i missed? I would argue that this is the most trivial of all the locations so far, as not so much as a line of dialogue is spoken at the airport. But anyways, you see our problem. --JayHenry 14:48, 1 March 2007 (CST)
No, you missed Topange State Park. While it only appears in a single video, the location is a very important one. Which highlights an important issue about how "vital" a location is. One might think that a measure of importance is how many times a location shows up in the videos, but TSP and Lucy's apartment show up each in only one video, and I would consider both of them more important than Daniel's friend's house, which shows up in two or three (could be the "undisclosed location, of course). -BRUCKER EyeBlueSmall.jpg (Home/Talk/Contribs) 14:58, 1 March 2007 (CST)
Oh yeah, you're right that's a big one. I tried condensing the list using "Daniel's car" and "Jonas's SUV" as locations, as well as "Streets of LA," "random sites in LA," "motels," "parks," and "hiking sites." It's more manageable. --JayHenry 15:13, 1 March 2007 (CST)

I like the shorter list. In the longer list a lot of those places are almost impossible to name. You should probably consider a standardized place on video pages for listing all the locations. Possibly in the video template, possibly as a note, or possibly some new cool thing that nobody's even thought of yet.

Phunck! 23:52, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Wow, we really do have a LOT of locations, don't we? A few points/concerns/suggestions/questions about the two lists:
  1. How is Hiking Sites different from Topanga State park? I thought both "hiking" and "swimming" videos were in TSP. Does Hiking sites here mean the Thanksgiving hike? I don't see that site mentioned in the condensed list.
  2. Merge "Daniel's car", "Streets of LA" and "Random sites in LA" to something like "General Los Angeles Area" or something like that. It seems they ditched the car while still being in LA though.
  3. I'd separate the "In The Park" park from the other parks and put those in General LA Area or something. I just think this park is the most important by far, and clearly stands out from the others.
  4. I'd leave out the Undisclosed Location... I mean we really have very little to say about it. I'm tempted to leave out the movie theater too, or include it in General LA Area. It doesn't seem like anything interesting came out of the movie theater, despite all the speculation.
  5. As of Beach Bum we have two beaches. Unless it's the same beach. So, change to "beaches"?
  6. We shouldn't feel obligated to find someplace to include every single location. I never thought these pages were very useful, except for the places that are of real interest (eg, Bree's room, Daniel's room, the park, TSP) because of the behind the scences info available, or the fanfic crossover or what have you. It might be best to go ultra-simple and dedicate our efforts to our top 10 locations or something along those lines.
OwenIsCool 19:43, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Location Color vs Blog color

JayHenry changed the color of the template from Steelblue to Light SteelBlue, marking his edit as a "fix". Apparently, he thought that I meant to make it the same as the blog template. However, When I remade the template, I intentionally make it steelblue to make it similar but different, so that that they will have a unique look and identity. Anyone disagree? -misty 00:51, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

I marked it "fix" because there were a number of formatting errors in the template and that was the main thing I changed. Any color is fine with me. --JayHenry 00:54, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

Merge with KateModern Locations Template

Per the discussion on the KateModern Locations template page, I merged the two templates together. Everything will work the same, but there's a new optional field KM that, if set to "yes", will change the color scheme and categorization to the standard KateModern one. - Shiori 10:43, 31 December 2007 (CST)