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===Life's Not Fair===
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=The posts=
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This article includes images of The Deacons' posts when possible.  Since they have been prolific in their commentary, sometimes there are too many posts after a certain video, or they may be too long for complete inclusion.  Links to the entire post are provided when available.  Not all posts by users claiming to be "The Deacons" are discussed.  Before the member directory, anybody who wished to post as "The Deacons" were able to, so judgment calls will be made as to what does and does not constitute a legitimate "The Deacons" fanfic comment.
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==Life's Not Fair==
 
After the video [[Life's Not Fair]] a [[Lonelygirl15 (production)|Lonelygirl15]] user named "The Deacons" posted a comment. The content of the  post contained the arabic for [[Urim and Thummim]].  It should be noted that at the time anyone could post under any name on a main video thread.
 
After the video [[Life's Not Fair]] a [[Lonelygirl15 (production)|Lonelygirl15]] user named "The Deacons" posted a comment. The content of the  post contained the arabic for [[Urim and Thummim]].  It should be noted that at the time anyone could post under any name on a main video thread.
  
===Learning Egyptian===
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==Learning Egyptian==
 
Following the [[Learning Egyptian]] video, [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=100&play=1#comment-13635 the deacons commmented]: [[Image: The_deacons_nov10.jpg]]
 
Following the [[Learning Egyptian]] video, [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=100&play=1#comment-13635 the deacons commmented]: [[Image: The_deacons_nov10.jpg]]
  
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This suggests that "the Deacons" plan on using  [[Bree]]  as a "medium" to communicate with "other life forces" during [[Bree's ritual]].  [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=100&play=1#comment-13690 In response to this a user comments]: "In a video where Bree is discussing what Lucy said about her having imaginary friends, could she be preparing her for something where Bree needs to ‘communicate’ with something that is not there? Surely if she was used to imagining conversations with her stuffed toys, it would be easier to manipulate her mind for their own uses?"
 
This suggests that "the Deacons" plan on using  [[Bree]]  as a "medium" to communicate with "other life forces" during [[Bree's ritual]].  [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=100&play=1#comment-13690 In response to this a user comments]: "In a video where Bree is discussing what Lucy said about her having imaginary friends, could she be preparing her for something where Bree needs to ‘communicate’ with something that is not there? Surely if she was used to imagining conversations with her stuffed toys, it would be easier to manipulate her mind for their own uses?"
  
===Motel Pool===
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==Motel Pool==
 
After the [[Motel Pool]] video [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=103&play=1#comment-13824 The Deacons commented]:
 
After the [[Motel Pool]] video [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=103&play=1#comment-13824 The Deacons commented]:
 
[[Image: The_deacons_motel.jpg]]
 
[[Image: The_deacons_motel.jpg]]
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We are glad that you stopped to rest. We will be there soon."
 
We are glad that you stopped to rest. We will be there soon."
  
===Exploring The Motel===
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==Exploring The Motel==
 
Following the [[Exploring The Motel]] [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=106&play=1#comment-14846 another message was received from The Deacons]:
 
Following the [[Exploring The Motel]] [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=106&play=1#comment-14846 another message was received from The Deacons]:
 
[[Image: The_deacons_exp.jpg]]
 
[[Image: The_deacons_exp.jpg]]
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===Someone's Following You===
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==Someone's Following You==
 
On the video thread of [[Someone's Following You]], this message was left by "The Deacons": "[[Gemma]], αυτό δεν είναι αποδεκτό. Πρέπει να απασχολήσετε τα affiars σας. Διαβάστε την ιστορία σας και μην μιλήστε επιλεγμένη πάλι. Η διαταγή δεν είναι ευτυχής με τη συμπεριφορά σας, και οι γονείς σας δεν είναι παρακαλώ ούτε." The Greek translates to roughly, "[[Gemma]], this is unacceptable. Mind your own affiars. Read your history, and do not speak of this again. [[The Order]] is not pleased with your behavior, and neither are your parents". They also posted: "[[Bree|BREE]] Perussi vestri crustulum quod propinquus vestri visum. Nos erant usquequaque vigilo. Nos es undique quod narro totus lingua. Nos es in interventus quod habenae. Illic est haud subterlabor. Trado pro populus adepto vulnero. Vos ero ruina of totus. Is est tardus , denique admonitio. Temerarius nostrum consultum. Trado iam. Nos have seen , nos mos adveho , quod nos mos victum." This post is written in Latin.
 
On the video thread of [[Someone's Following You]], this message was left by "The Deacons": "[[Gemma]], αυτό δεν είναι αποδεκτό. Πρέπει να απασχολήσετε τα affiars σας. Διαβάστε την ιστορία σας και μην μιλήστε επιλεγμένη πάλι. Η διαταγή δεν είναι ευτυχής με τη συμπεριφορά σας, και οι γονείς σας δεν είναι παρακαλώ ούτε." The Greek translates to roughly, "[[Gemma]], this is unacceptable. Mind your own affiars. Read your history, and do not speak of this again. [[The Order]] is not pleased with your behavior, and neither are your parents". They also posted: "[[Bree|BREE]] Perussi vestri crustulum quod propinquus vestri visum. Nos erant usquequaque vigilo. Nos es undique quod narro totus lingua. Nos es in interventus quod habenae. Illic est haud subterlabor. Trado pro populus adepto vulnero. Vos ero ruina of totus. Is est tardus , denique admonitio. Temerarius nostrum consultum. Trado iam. Nos have seen , nos mos adveho , quod nos mos victum." This post is written in Latin.
  
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===Man In The Suit===
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==Man In The Suit==
 
In the [[Man In The Suit]] [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=108&play=1#comment-15719 The Deacons comment]:
 
In the [[Man In The Suit]] [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=108&play=1#comment-15719 The Deacons comment]:
 
[[Image: Mits_deacons.jpg]]
 
[[Image: Mits_deacons.jpg]]
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===Fleeing The Watcher===
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==Fleeing The Watcher==
 
Following [[Fleeing The Watcher]], [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=111&play=1#comment-16513 The Deacons posted another message]:
 
Following [[Fleeing The Watcher]], [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=111&play=1#comment-16513 The Deacons posted another message]:
 
[[Image:Ftw deacons.jpg]]
 
[[Image:Ftw deacons.jpg]]
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*[http://www.adze.com/Celebrities/BarryBonds.htm 33n57, 117w24] -  Riverside, California
 
*[http://www.adze.com/Celebrities/BarryBonds.htm 33n57, 117w24] -  Riverside, California
  
===Jonas?===
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==Jonas?==
  
 
Following Daniel's [[Jonas?]] videos The Deacons appear to have returned [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=123&play=1#comment-20506 now posting] under the member name [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?page_id=113&member=198 Deacons] (using the new [[Member Directory]].  Some will argue that since they registered as #198 they cannot possible be [[Canon]], however it is quite possible and even probably that [[the Creators]] would try to camouflage their authenticity.  However some users noted that spelling errors are harder to explain from people one would expect to be highly educated.
 
Following Daniel's [[Jonas?]] videos The Deacons appear to have returned [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=123&play=1#comment-20506 now posting] under the member name [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?page_id=113&member=198 Deacons] (using the new [[Member Directory]].  Some will argue that since they registered as #198 they cannot possible be [[Canon]], however it is quite possible and even probably that [[the Creators]] would try to camouflage their authenticity.  However some users noted that spelling errors are harder to explain from people one would expect to be highly educated.
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===Homeless===
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==Homeless==
 
After [[Homeless]] the [[http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=125&play=1#comment-20952 Deacons posted]]:
 
After [[Homeless]] the [[http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=125&play=1#comment-20952 Deacons posted]]:
  

Revision as of 08:43, 18 January 2007

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This page describes the fanfiction comments board user that posts under the name "The Deacons" and more recently, "Deacons". For information on The Deacons of the Order as portrayed in the series, see The Deacons. For the deacon character that was clearly seen in one video, see Deacon (individual).


Introduction

"The Deacons" began posting in the comments board on the Lonelygirl15 website after the video Life's Not Fair. Their messages mainly warn Bree of the consequences of her running away, and beseech her to return to them. They've replied to Daniel and Gemma videos as well. At times their posts have been on the mark, leading some users to believe that they might be canon. However, their often contradictory posts, as well as their unfulfilled offer of a video from her parents, have shown them to be fanfiction. Also notable is that when "The Deacons" began posting, usernames were not fixed, which led to several unrelated people posting under the same name. When the member directory was created, "The Deacons" began posting as "Deacons", even though the usernames "The Deacons" and "TheDeacons" were listed. This ocurrence also pointed to fanfiction, as the Creators would surely have taken steps to protect "The Deacons" username if they indeed were using it.


The posts

This article includes images of The Deacons' posts when possible. Since they have been prolific in their commentary, sometimes there are too many posts after a certain video, or they may be too long for complete inclusion. Links to the entire post are provided when available. Not all posts by users claiming to be "The Deacons" are discussed. Before the member directory, anybody who wished to post as "The Deacons" were able to, so judgment calls will be made as to what does and does not constitute a legitimate "The Deacons" fanfic comment.

Life's Not Fair

After the video Life's Not Fair a Lonelygirl15 user named "The Deacons" posted a comment. The content of the post contained the arabic for Urim and Thummim. It should be noted that at the time anyone could post under any name on a main video thread.

Learning Egyptian

Following the Learning Egyptian video, the deacons commmented: The deacons nov10.jpg

According to Wikipedia: "Nehemiah was a person in the Bible, believed to be the primary author of the Book of Nehemiah. He was the son of Hachaliah (Neh. 1:1), and probably of the Tribe of Judah. His family must have lived in Jerusalem (Neh. 2:3)." It is intereseting that they use the word Ascend since it has astrological significance.

Again, they used the term Urim and Thummim. File:Urim and Thummim2.jpg

This suggests that "the Deacons" plan on using Bree as a "medium" to communicate with "other life forces" during Bree's ritual. In response to this a user comments: "In a video where Bree is discussing what Lucy said about her having imaginary friends, could she be preparing her for something where Bree needs to ‘communicate’ with something that is not there? Surely if she was used to imagining conversations with her stuffed toys, it would be easier to manipulate her mind for their own uses?"

Motel Pool

After the Motel Pool video The Deacons commented: File:The deacons motel.jpg


They also commented her a few comments later saying, "Bree We are glad that you stopped to rest. We will be there soon."

Exploring The Motel

Following the Exploring The Motel another message was received from The Deacons: The deacons exp.jpg While it cannot be verified that The Deacons who made the comment are related to the deacons at Bree's ritual it message does contain a number of interesting references which will require further research:


Someone's Following You

On the video thread of Someone's Following You, this message was left by "The Deacons": "Gemma, αυτό δεν είναι αποδεκτό. Πρέπει να απασχολήσετε τα affiars σας. Διαβάστε την ιστορία σας και μην μιλήστε επιλεγμένη πάλι. Η διαταγή δεν είναι ευτυχής με τη συμπεριφορά σας, και οι γονείς σας δεν είναι παρακαλώ ούτε." The Greek translates to roughly, "Gemma, this is unacceptable. Mind your own affiars. Read your history, and do not speak of this again. The Order is not pleased with your behavior, and neither are your parents". They also posted: "BREE Perussi vestri crustulum quod propinquus vestri visum. Nos erant usquequaque vigilo. Nos es undique quod narro totus lingua. Nos es in interventus quod habenae. Illic est haud subterlabor. Trado pro populus adepto vulnero. Vos ero ruina of totus. Is est tardus , denique admonitio. Temerarius nostrum consultum. Trado iam. Nos have seen , nos mos adveho , quod nos mos victum." This post is written in Latin.

The odd language choice (we have no reason to think that Bree's religion borrows from Greek or Latin scriptures) and the poor quality of the composition is what has led many to acertain that these posts are merely another form of the fanfic that is a part of the lonelygirl15 tradition. The Greek language posting is particularly revealing because it contains the misspelled English word "affiars" (instead of "affairs") in the midst of the Greek writing. This has been taken as evidence that the poster was using a translator that skipped over "affiars" because it had no translation for it.

In essence The Deacons accused Daniel of being analogous to Sariel in that he lusts after Bree. Sariel is actually believed to have lusted over Raguel's daughter who was named Sarah. Sariel appear in the Book of Enoch and we know this is all Enochian.


Man In The Suit

In the Man In The Suit The Deacons comment: Mits deacons.jpg

Location: San Diego CA 32N43 117W09



Fleeing The Watcher

Following Fleeing The Watcher, The Deacons posted another message: Ftw deacons.jpg

  • Urim and Thummim - a divination medium or process used by ancient Hebrews (usually Israelites) in revealing the will of God on a contested point of view or other problem.
  • Grigori - Watcher - a group of fallen angels told of in Biblical apocrypha who mated with mortal women

According to Wikipedia, Grigori "are a group of fallen angels told of in Biblical apocrypha who mated with mortal women, giving rise to a race of giants known as the Nephilim. Also known as "Watchers" (from Greek egrḗgoroi), the Grigori appear in the booksEnoch and Jubilees". Book of Enoch is an Angelic teaching which also equals the storyline.

The Deacons (commenter) have now made several references to Grigori. This seem to tied in with what Gemma described as a Watcher.


  • Samyaza - שמיחזה - fallen angel of Christian tradition

According to Wikipedia, "Samyaza (Aramaic: שמיחזה, Greek: Σεμιαζά) also Shemyazaz, Sêmîazâz, Semjâzâ, Shemyaza, Samyaza, Shemhazai, and Amezarak (Ethiopic corruption)) is a fallen angel of Christian tradition that ranked in the heavenly hierarchy as one of the Grigori (meaning "Watchers" in Greek"). The term was used by The Deacons (commenter) after Fleeing The Watcher.

  • Paimon - one of the Kings of Hell
  • Asmodai - is a semi-Biblical demon mostly known thanks to the deuterocanonical Book of Tobit
  • Amon-Ra - the name of a deity, in Egyptian mythology
  • 33n57, 117w24 - Riverside, California

Jonas?

Following Daniel's Jonas? videos The Deacons appear to have returned now posting under the member name Deacons (using the new Member Directory. Some will argue that since they registered as #198 they cannot possible be Canon, however it is quite possible and even probably that the Creators would try to camouflage their authenticity. However some users noted that spelling errors are harder to explain from people one would expect to be highly educated. File:Deacons new.jpg

The only link we have to prove at least some of what the Deacons have posted that have come to fruition would be the famous Grigori references as everyone knows by now the Grigori are know as the Watchers and that was incorporated after the reference by Gemma. Still know one knows is this someone with an imagination or someone with a creator background.


Homeless

After Homeless the [Deacons posted]:

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Topics for research:

  • اوريم وتميم - Urim and Thummim
  • Pinpoint micro asset tracker [1]
  • location 34° 1′3.35″N 118°28′34.68″W -The coordinates are for Woodlawn Memorial Cemetery in Santa Monica. Address: 1847 14th Street, Santa Monica, CA.

It’s a old fashioned cemetery which is out of the ordinary for that area. It says that it has a lot of “lawn parks.” And it’s right next to the Santa Monica freeway.

File:Woodlawn cemetery.jpg

The Deacons' mention of Jonas as Samyaza created some confusion because previously they said the Watcher's name was Samyaza (see the [Fleeing The Watcher section] of this article. "We know that the watcher's name is שמיחזה."

A user then commented:

"The deacons comment had both arabic and hebrew. The first language is holy in islam (and possibly others) and the second is holy in Judaism.