LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/Fanfic revamp

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As per suggestion from the administration, Phase 1 of the LGPedia UGC/Fanfic Revamp has been started. Please do not initiate any further discussion - any late concerns with the current Tier listing can be addressed in later requests for re-evaluation. Click here for further information on the process.

Note: Several resolved and abandoned discussions have been archived in order to keep the page tidy.

Glossary

Tier 1 Tier 1 Fanfic is not notable enough to get listed on LGPedia. All vlogs not belonging to a series fall under this category. (Singular notable vlogs may be listed on a single listing page in the future.)
Tier 2 Tier 2 Fanfic gets a single page with a few basic facts like creators, general plot/topic outline and maybe a list of characters.
Tier 3 Tier 3 Fanfic gets a comprehensive single page, including a more detailed plot outline, episode lists, and similar additional information.
Tier 4 Tier 4 Fanfic is fanfic that, under all objective considerations, should belong to Tier 3, but for some subjective or organizational reason are allowed to branch out and create more than one page. (An example would be that a series is rather small in notability, but has a high number of episodes, so that a separate list of videos makes more sense.)
Tier 5 Tier 5 Fanfic are all "big" series, like OpAphid, Maddison Atkins or Redearth88. They get the same array of pages as canon series, including templates, character/actor pages and categories.

Criteria

The important and sole decisive criterion is notability. Is a series notable enough to be listed at all, and, if yes, how notable is it?

Unfortunately, notability is very subjective. As such, we have to fall back on objective data to decide whether a series is notable. Such objective data can be:

  • Did the series become canon at one point in its life? (Example: OpAphid)
  • Did the series get a shoutout or referred to in a canon episode? (Example: Paulmark18)
  • How many people in the community have seen the series? (Example: Maddison Atkins)
  • How many people in the community have heard of the series? (Example: Immant, Cassieiswatching)
  • How many views do the videos of the series have on average?
  • How many episodes does the series have?
  • How many main characters are there? (Just one vlogger, or an entire cast?)
  • How big/complex is the production? (Just one vlogger with a webcam, or an entire crew with multiple sets and scripted episodes?)
  • And, especially for Tier 4 series, is there anything special or exceptional that needs to be considered? (Example: Lonelygirl362436 - technically a rather small series, but highly notable because it was produced by the Creators, had Daniel in it and a well-known hollywood actress as its lead.)
  • [Please expand this list]

List of fan series currently archived on the pedia

Suggested Tiers

Please see LGPedia:UGC Tier List. Do not edit that page, though.

Mission

We need your comments. Look at the series we already have, look at the series that exist that we don't have yet, and rate them using the criteria above. Try to determine whether a series is notable enough to be listed, and, if yes, which tier it belongs to. Remember to post your reasoning ;)

~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 21:58, 20 January 2008 (CST)

Schedule

Almost exactly three months after this project has come to life, there now seems to be a large consent on the initial Tier listing; while there are still minor details to wait for until we can finalize the Tier 3/4 listing, Tiers 1 and 2 are finalized, and, as such, the Phases only related to these Tiers can begin.

As of Monday, March 24th, 2008, 06:09:05 GMT, Phase 1 of the LGPedia UGC/Fanfic Revamp is running. See below for details.

  • The Revamp will proceed as follows
    • Phase 1: Make a link-list of all Tier 1 fanfic, something along the lines of "List of additional user-generated content"; tag all Tier 1 and related pages for deletion.
    • Phase 2: Find and tag Tier 2-related pages such as lists of videos, categories, templates video pages and so on. Write up basic pages for each series.
    • Phase 3: Find and tag Tier 3-related pages such as lists of videos, categories, templates video pages and so on. Collapse information into the series pages where possible, write up extended pages for each series.
    • Phase 4: Identify the current set of pages Tier 4 pages have, and check with the page-list which ones are needed, and which aren't. Tag/expand as necessary.
    • Phase 5: Identify the current set of pages Tier 5 pages have, and check with the page-list which ones are needed. Expand as necessary.
    • Phase 6: Find and correct references to UGC content.
    • Phase 7: Declare Revamp over.
    • Phase 8: Monitor UGC/fanfic expansion, re-evaluate tier status where necessary, assess new UGC/fanfic, keep fanfic-list up to date, control Flock Regulations.

Page-list

  • Central portal
  • List of videos
  • Templates:
    • Bottom index
    • Customized sidebar template (For less than ten episodes, use Template:FakeBlog directly. Otherwise, create a pass-through template for FakeBlog. No non-canon series gets its own, independent sidebar.)
  • Character pages
  • Actor pages
  • Categories to group it all together

Flock Regulations

The basic point of these regulations is, independent from any criterion spelled out in writing below, that The Flock's pages must look neither dead, unmaintained nor messy. The reason The Flock was granted Tier 4 status was because Immo vouched to make sure his pages would be maintained either by himself or his fans. Should it, at any point, be apparent that this is not the case, Tier 4 status will be revoked, and The Flock will be collapsed into a Tier 3 page.
Reasons for revocation can be:

  • Episode pages are not added within three days after an episode's release, or are still "barebones", lacking parts of sidebar information.
  • Transcripts have not been added within one week of the episode's release.
  • The portal's list of videos has not been updated within two days after an episode's release.
  • New main characters are not added to the portal within three days.
  • New main characters do not have a character page within four days.
  • The "Plot background" or similar sections on character pages stay outdated for more than two weeks.
  • The "Last Appearance" link has not been updated within two days after an episode's release.
  • The portal is kept "untidy", having dead links, superfluous content (like the current character placeholders), or generally lacking organization.
  • Clean-up tags are not resolved within five days.

NOTE: An extension will be granted for characters who have suddenly become canon. Obviously updating under these circumstances will take longer than normal.

Reasons can and will be collapsed - if it takes four days to get a character page up, you do not have an additional two days to update "Last Appearance". These two days ended two days after the video was released. Likewise, while the regulations allow for a dead character link from day three to day four, keep in mind dead links on the portal count towards the untidyness-factor. Continuously having dead links for several days on the portal, even if they are resolved within four days, will be seen as a sign you or your fans are incapable of handling the workload of maintaining the portal, and thus the section as a whole.

See also

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